Op I warned u abt d argument this topic will generate bc experts arnd here are seriously against this practice even wen they dnt understand dt running a car in Nigeria strictly on factory specs is sometimes practically impossible except u r ur own mechanic.

Jst hold on bc more r coming down on u I will b at ur side with a coolant n water incase ur body over heats or beta still I will arrange to remove ur body thermostat n steady ur body fan to overcome this

In d meantime jst wait for d main Gurus

ogawisdom:
Op I warned u abt d argument this topic will generate bc experts arnd here are seriously against this practice even wen they dnt understand dt running a car in Nigeria strictly on factory specs is sometimes practically impossible except u r ur own mechanic.

Jst hold on bc more r coming down on u I will b at ur side with a coolant n water incase ur body over heats or beta still I will arrange to remove ur body thermostat n steady ur body fan to overcome this

In d meantime jst wait for d main Gurus

Hmmmm. Na now I know say Nigerians intentionally 'kazeemize' their cars in collabo with kazeem and kasmus.

Tropicalization indeed.

lomomike:


Oya abeg explain the tropicalization the best way you can.

In a lay man terms I will make this easier for us

Tropicalization of cars

The climate conditions vary severely across the globe and car manufacturers previously made cars for specific countries based on their climate conditions without realizing that with globalization the cars do get exported out from the country where it was originally meant for sale in.

Cars made in Europe used to be designed for European climate which were cooler and dryer than sub tropical Asian countries where temperatures can exceed 40C and have humidity over 80%. The direct impact of exporting a car designed for the European climate to Asia meant that the cars were not able to function at its best. There were many examples of cases where the cars would over heat as the cooling system was not suitable for the sub tropical climate. The radiators were far too small and other components were not able to cope with the high humidity leading to premature failure. Some BMWs, Alfa Romeos and Audis that were imported to Asia from Germany or UK struggled to cope with the heat. Many of these cars could barely travel 100km across an Asian city without overheating.

Some interior components also started to fade and peel off as the coatings and linings were meant for dry climate conditions.
The car manufacturers only realized this in the late 1990s and started to do global scale testing during the development phase.

Things involved in tropicalizing a vehicle:
1. Paint - either repaint or try a good paint sealant.
2. Rubbers and Plastics (e.g. weather strips, dashboard, plastic bumpers, trimmings, etc.) - replace weather strips with tropicalized ones. Other plastic parts may require painting.
3. Cooling system/ Radiator Size/ Fan, etc. - Replace radiator as necessary or replace fan that has higher air flow.

Start with the paint. Its the most expensive part. Next is the cooling system. Then just observe first the other rubber and plastic parts and replace as necessary. Some might not need replacing immediately.

tonychristopher:



car manufacturers only realized this in the late 1990s and started to do global scale testing during the development phase.
.

with regards to this, it seems the case has been solved

I know, it is pointless arguing, it worked in my car and it doesnt consume fuel, my fan are direct to engine..considering the lagos traffic jam and hot enviroment...somebody said dubai..i lived in dubai..they do not have traffic jamz and their roads are free so they can afford thermostat because even if engine is hot the emggine will be air cooled as the car is on high speed cos they have the finest road like autobahn..now they can afford thermostat...now here in Nigeria we have moisture, heat and humidity together with dust and bad road


men yank off the thermo



It worked for me, and it depends on engine tyoe...you cant bring in any type of car in Nigeria and expect it to last..even human dont



I am ready for them


Help me with coolant, my fans are connected direct

lol

ogawisdom:
Op I warned u abt d argument this topic will generate bc experts arnd here are seriously against this practice even wen they dnt understand dt running a car in Nigeria strictly on factory specs is sometimes practically impossible except u r ur own mechanic.

Jst hold on bc more r coming down on u I will b at ur side with a coolant n water incase ur body over heats or beta still I will arrange to remove ur body thermostat n steady ur body fan to overcome this

In d meantime jst wait for d main Gurus

Now do you believe now that there is tropicalization and mind you not all car manufacturer comply with this


They dont put africa market in view..bear this in mind so they view other market and use their standards as global not africa



so adopt your cars to african roads and need


tropicalize and thank me later

Specialist900:
with regards to this, it seems the case has been solved

Mr tonychristopher, where did you get this info from?

ogawisdom:
Op I warned u abt d argument this topic will generate bc experts arnd here are seriously against this practice even wen they dnt understand dt running a car in Nigeria strictly on factory specs is sometimes practically impossible except u r ur own mechanic.

Jst hold on bc more r coming down on u I will b at ur side with a coolant n water incase ur body over heats or beta still I will arrange to remove ur body thermostat n steady ur body fan to overcome this

In d meantime jst wait for d main Gurus

Lol, very funny. It might be difficult to run a car on factory specs in Nigeria, but in the case of thermostat removal, I don't really see what is difficult about that. Thermostat or fans running inteminently DO NOT CAUSE OVERHEATING. Jeez do u also remove the thermostat in ur pressing iron?

Bro I am not but is it wrong driving a car made in Nigeria for Nigerians and Nigerian climate and harsh driving style


Bro It is pointless going to Canada to buy one used car to bring it back and be suffering from over heating ...because you did not tropicalize


Tropicalize the car baby

DGD1:
op is just advertising innoson cars, but the way he is doing it is very wrong, all he said are baseless.... common, cars from early 90's upward could be used in any part of the world(though some vehicles have issues due to technical know how).
Better let us not start with innoson cars, I can start analysis of that product that are not performing to expectations.... this is not politics that you gain sympathy vote by propaganda, rather than coming so low, you guys should focus more on developing your products to compete globally.
take KIA and Hyundai for example I can remember how their early productions were, but now a kia/Hyundai product can be compared along with Toyota, Nissan and Honda.

tonychristopher:



In a lay man terms I will make this easier for us

Tropicalization of cars

The climate conditions vary severely across the globe and car manufacturers previously made cars for specific countries based on their climate conditions without realizing that with globalization the cars do get exported out from the country where it was originally meant for sale in.

Cars made in Europe used to be designed for European climate which were cooler and dryer than sub tropical Asian countries where temperatures can exceed 40C and have humidity over 80%. The direct impact of exporting a car designed for the European climate to Asia meant that the cars were not able to function at its best. There were many examples of cases where the cars would over heat as the cooling system was not suitable for the sub tropical climate. The radiators were far too small and other components were not able to cope with the high humidity leading to premature failure. Some BMWs, Alfa Romeos and Audis that were imported to Asia from Germany or UK struggled to cope with the heat. Many of these cars could barely travel 100km across an Asian city without overheating.

Some interior components also started to fade and peel off as the coatings and linings were meant for dry climate conditions.
The car manufacturers only realized this in the late 1990s and started to do global scale testing during the development phase.

Things involved in tropicalizing a vehicle:
1. Paint - either repaint or try a good paint sealant.
2. Rubbers and Plastics (e.g. weather strips, dashboard, plastic bumpers, trimmings, etc.) - replace weather strips with tropicalized ones. Other plastic parts may require painting.
3. Cooling system/ Radiator Size/ Fan, etc. - Replace radiator as necessary or replace fan that has higher air flow.

Start with the paint. Its the most expensive part. Next is the cooling system. Then just observe first the other rubber and plastic parts and replace as necessary. Some might not need replacing immediately.

How come u no longer include thermostat removal as u stated in ur original post?

lomomike:
Mr tonychristopher, where did you get this info from?

bros #
It is pointless knowing where the info is bros, it is viatl accepting the info than knowing the info

Thermostat removal is only needed when the car is constantly overheating (all thing been equal) like good radiator, good water pump, no host laekage, good oil ...but the car still over heats..then YANK OFF THE DAMN THERMOSTAT and connect your fan directly


It is a gradual process...it worked for , it will work for you

abatically:


How come u no longer include thermostat removal as u stated in ur original post?

tonychristopher:
Thermostat removal is only needed when the car is constantly overheating (all thing been equal) like good radiator, good water pump, no host laekage, good oil ...but the car still over heats..then YANK OFF THE DAMN THERMOSTAT and connect your fan directly


It is a gradual process...it worked for , it will work for you

Na, I don't need to. Factory specs works just perfect for me.

tonychristopher:
somebody said dubai..i lived in dubai..they do not have traffic jamz and their roads are free so they can afford thermostat because even if engine is hot the emggine will be air cooled as the car is on high speed cos they have the finest road like autobahn..now they can afford thermostat...now here in Nigeria we have moisture, heat and humidity together with dust and bad road

This guy u sabi dribble pass messi I swear. First u claimed Dubai is not tropical region, or that it is not as hot as Nigeria. U knew u blabbed and now u switched reason to the fact that Dubai doesn't have traffic jam or they have good roads. Lol

Dubai alone does not make up UAE. There are deserts and remote areas with lots of dust that triple what we have here in Nigeria. Yet they have thermostats in their cars. I have a friend who is a Toyota dealership, all the Toyota cars in his shop are UAE imports, from the smallest yaris to landruiser. Guess what, all of them have thermostat.

tonychristopher:
Now do you believe now that there is tropicalization and mind you not all car manufacturer comply with this


They dont put africa market in view..bear this in mind so they view other market and use their standards as global not africa



so adopt your cars to african roads and need


tropicalize and thank me later

thanks but I'll pass. I prefer to trace a problem to its root than suppress it.

I've been running my 05 corolla using manufacturer's advise for over a year and I've not encountered overheat. Infact the tyres that came with the car from America when I imported it in November of 2013 is still intact. I've not changed it yet

DUBAI AINT TROPICS, ITS DESERT REGION

abatically:


Na, I don't need to. Factory specs works just perfect for me.


This guy u sabi dribble pass messi I swear. First u claimed Dubai is not tropical region, or that it is not as hot as Nigeria. U knew u blabbed and now u switched reason to the fact that Dubai doesn't have traffic jam or they have good roads. Lol

Dubai alone does not make up UAE. There are deserts and remote areas with lots of dust that triple what we have here in Nigeria. Yet they have thermostats in their cars. I have a friend who is a Toyota dealership, all the Toyota cars in his shop are UAE imports, from the smallest yaris to landruiser. Guess what, all of them have thermostat.

abatically:


Lol, very funny. It might be difficult to run a car on factory specs in Nigeria, but in the case of thermostat removal, I don't really see what is difficult about that. Thermostat or fans running inteminently DO NOT CAUSE OVERHEATING. Jeez do u also remove the thermostat in ur pressing iron?

nice point on the pressing iron

pressing iron is not a mechanical equipment and doesnt have fan or radiator


oh why the comparison...oh you should have used voxwagen bettle instead....

Specialist900:
nice point on the pressing iron

tonychristopher:
pressing iron is not a mechanical equipment and doesnt have fan or radiator


oh why the comparison...oh you should have used voxwagen bettle instead....

the point made with the pressing iron is the regulation of the heat by the thermostat. ie helping to maintain a designed temperature

I give up on this thread, its hopeless.

tonychristopher:
pressing iron is not a mechanical equipment and doesnt have fan or radiator


oh why the comparison...oh you should have used voxwagen bettle instead....

the thermostat has mechanical component. You're a Kazeem, a heavy one at that I am unfollowing this thread.

lomomike:
the thermostat has mechanical component. You re a Kazeem, a heavy one at that I am in following this thread.

bro to be honest, i dont know kazeem and i am not him.....

Iron is not a mechanical intrstrument but electrical


bro use VOXWAGEN as an example

Do that car even have thermostat and does it overheat

tonychristopher:
DUBAI AINT TROPICS, ITS DESERT REGION

Keep contradicting urself. Dubai is in between tropic and desert. Come to think of it, between desert and tropic which is hotter? If cars made for Dubai market (with some areas having desert climate) can be fitted with thermostat, then why would someone think it is necessary to yank thermostat in Nigeria which has a cooler climate.

tonychristopher:


I raised many points so which one do u have a problem with

My problem is that you are misleading people. I bought a 2003 Honda Accord V6 EX from Canada and the air-conditioner was the coldest I have ever experienced. It came with a single cell radiator, thermostat and the fans run intermittently. I used it for one year and sold it and the buyer is still using it.

Coming here to speak about tropicalizing a car sounds like all these full options things you hear from dealers.

tonychristopher:


bro to be honest, i dont know kazeem and i am not him.....

Iron is not a mechanical intrstrument but electrical


bro use VOXWAGEN as an example

Do that car even have thermostat and does it overheat

Oga, why bring a 1970 car into this? The millennium vw bug has thermostat. Every modern engine should have a thermostat. Or do u compare the efficiency of a vw beetle to a modern engine?

abatically:


Oga, why bring a 1970 car into this? The millennium vw bug has thermostat. Every modern engine should have a thermostat. Or do u compare the efficiency of a vw beetle to a modern engine?

Don't mind the guy. I suspect he is preparing us for something he is waiting to unleash. I foresee a situation he would start marketing tropicalizing services to unsuspecting people on this forum.

tonychristopher:


bro to be honest, i dont know kazeem and i am not him.....

Iron is not a mechanical intrstrument but electrical


bro use VOXWAGEN as an example

Do that car even have thermostat and does it overheat

bros na, the old bug and modern cars use different cooling systems as was obtainable at the time. New bugs use thermostat

bros dores it mean people dont tropicalise engines...dude it is done, ur lucky or were lucky.....my car doesnt have a thermo and it runs okay just a bit fuel consumption



but that is okay


it is an individual thing, if you want to leave thermostat fine, if your car is overheating and if u can leave thermostat ..fine, if you can yank it off..also fine


i am not deceiving people, all drivers aint no kids, so they can decide

Marpol:


My problem is that you are misleading people. I bought a 2003 Honda Accord V6 EX from Canada and the air-conditioner was the coldest I have ever experienced. It came with a single cell radiator, thermostat and the fans run intermittently. I used it for one year and sold it and the buyer is still using it.

Coming here to speak about tropicalizing a car sounds like all these full options things you hear from dealers.

tonychristopher:
Bro I am not but is it wrong driving a car made in Nigeria for Nigerians and Nigerian climate and harsh driving style


Bro It is pointless going to Canada to buy one used car to bring it back and be suffering from over heating ...because you did not tropicalize


Tropicalize the car baby

go and get your facts right mr man, and stop spitting poo here, tropicalize ko saharaize ni.... mtcheeew.

want to make yourself known and congrats we have seen you, have your seat ask questions so we lecture you instead of you embarrassing yourself.

Very interesting thread! Well, I used to live in the USA..in the Northern State of Montana, where we routinely experienced sub zero weather. We moved down to Ghana a while ago and brought along a '97ish subaru outback and a '99 Chevy Suburban. I knew NOTHING of tropicalization but my cars thrived in the blistering heat and standstill traffic that plagued Accra in the early 2000s.

About 2-3 years ago I bought a Ghana used '03 Ford Focus Se wagon after selling off my other beloved rides. This car was cool and all-but not as reliable. I had to immediately replace the battery....which the owner swore was less than a year old..and from how things look; another battery replacement is imminent!! It took FOREVER to heat up and loved overheating for some reason and it made a piffling 18mpg-something my 5.7v8 Suburban could exceed!!!

I took it for diagnosis and behold......that's where i learnt of tropicalization. Ive since done the best i can to reverse things: though it's now left with my direct fans, which is waay to complex for me to reverse- my mech claims this setup is the cause of my terrible battery life. Anyways, car now reaches optimal temp in 3mins and makes like 20-21mpg; not perfect but better than 18mpg!!!

Apart from the suspension that is going bad ...i cant help but link every single problem i've ever got on my Focus to this 'tropicalization' you speak of, op.

tonychristopher:


bro to be honest, i dont know kazeem and i am not him.....

Iron is not a mechanical intrstrument but electrical


bro use VOXWAGEN as an example

Do that car even have thermostat and does it overheat

Tonychristopher, why don't you just want to learn? The thermostat is an electromechanical device. You are not paying me but I will teach you the physics behind it. Two metal strips with different rates of expansion are joined together to create a thermostat. When exposed to heat, the strip deflects or bends because the two metals are expanding at different rates. The thermostat in your car is purely mechanical because the heat source is from the water in the engine unlike the thermostat in an iron where the energy source is electrical. The principles of operation are the same though. The two dissimilar metals I talked about are in that spring you see on a thermostat. That is what opens and closes the thermostat. When functioning correctly, it does not impede the flow of water around your engine and radiator. It only causes overheat when it fails in the closed position.
Cars made since after the 90s have been tropicalised. It didn't cost car manufacturers an arm and a leg to do it.
Dubai is hotter than Nigeria. Some states in the USA are way hotter than Nigeria. Yet they all drive with their thermostats.
My fan spins once every three to five minutes or so in heavy traffic. My radiator is single cell and yet is efficient enough (engineers will appreciate this) to cool my coolant temperature from 96 degrees to 93 degree with just a fifteen second blast. (yes I have made a note of it). This is on a factory spec cooling system. So what do you need a double cell and a nonstop fan for? And I drive this car in ph so it is constantly in traffic. My car has never overheated. It has stood at a spot at ore for two hours with my engine running and ac chilling and the temp gauge didn't move an inch. Tropicalisation is an 80s topic. We are in 2015. Unless of course someone on this thread is driving a car made in the 70s, then they might just find this your stuff useful. I even doubt that.

TEACHER TEACH YOURSELF, EXPERIENCE IS THE BEST TEACHER....LOL

DGD1:


go and get your facts right mr man, and stop spitting poo here, tropicalize ko saharaize ni.... mtcheeew.

want to make yourself known and congrats we have seen you, have your seat ask questions so we lecture you instead of you embarrassing yourself.