proxillin:
[size=16pt]I had this problem. It happened in one crazy traffic, my radiator just busted open and the water escaped.

My mechanic sealed my radiator. Reset the engine, and my car started again.

1 week later, the heat meter started reading to red (meaning its over heating)

I called another mechanic who recommended I should buy a double cell radiator.

he removed the thermostat.

My car is working fine now.

However, he said I should not use AC for now, that I should change my radiator fan. he claimed the radiator fan is not strong enough.

How true is this?

And also, I noticed that my engine is now high. Why is this? Is any harm in this?

I love this thread. Its about my car.[/size]

lomomike:
Mr tonychristopher, where did you get this info from?

proxillin:
[size=16pt]I had this problem. It happened in one crazy traffic, my radiator just busted open and the water escaped.

My mechanic sealed my radiator. Reset the engine, and my car started again.

1 week later, the heat meter started reading to red (meaning its over heating)

I called another mechanic who recommended I should buy a double cell radiator.

he removed the thermostat.

My car is working fine now.

However, he said I should not use AC for now, that I should change my radiator fan. he claimed the radiator fan is not strong enough.

How true is this?

And also, I noticed that my engine is now high. Why is this? Is any harm in this?

I love this thread. Its about my car.[/size]

Specialist900:
nice point on the pressing iron

ElFenomeno1:

Dumb!

ZIMDRILL:


when your radaitor burst, you meant to do a pressure test after mending it then also bleed the system to take of air bubbles aslong there is air bubbles in the cooling system the car overheats your did either the mending was not done properly or the system was never bleed

since the thermo was removed your car is running cold

Run your ac as normal dont change the fan

as for engine being HIGH i dont know what you mean

tonychristopher:


bro to be honest, i dont know kazeem and i am not him.....

Iron is not a mechanical intrstrument but electrical


bro use VOXWAGEN as an example

Do that car even have thermostat and does it overheat

tonychristopher:



In a lay man terms I will make this easier for us

Tropicalization of cars

The climate conditions vary severely across the globe and car manufacturers previously made cars for specific countries based on their climate conditions without realizing that with globalization the cars do get exported out from the country where it was originally meant for sale in.

Cars made in Europe used to be designed for European climate which were cooler and dryer than sub tropical Asian countries where temperatures can exceed 40C and have humidity over 80%. The direct impact of exporting a car designed for the European climate to Asia meant that the cars were not able to function at its best. There were many examples of cases where the cars would over heat as the cooling system was not suitable for the sub tropical climate. The radiators were far too small and other components were not able to cope with the high humidity leading to premature failure. Some BMWs, Alfa Romeos and Audis that were imported to Asia from Germany or UK struggled to cope with the heat. Many of these cars could barely travel 100km across an Asian city without overheating.

Some interior components also started to fade and peel off as the coatings and linings were meant for dry climate conditions.
The car manufacturers only realized this in the late 1990s and started to do global scale testing during the development phase.

Things involved in tropicalizing a vehicle:
1. Paint - either repaint or try a good paint sealant.
2. Rubbers and Plastics (e.g. weather strips, dashboard, plastic bumpers, trimmings, etc.) - replace weather strips with tropicalized ones. Other plastic parts may require painting.
3. Cooling system/ Radiator Size/ Fan, etc. - Replace radiator as necessary or replace fan that has higher air flow.

Start with the paint. Its the most expensive part. Next is the cooling system. Then just observe first the other rubber and plastic parts and replace as necessary. Some might not need replacing immediately.

johnny1980:
and your room temperature in Nigeria is different from what obtains in the US ? I guess you use your iron in the open hot SUN?

proxillin:


Thanks chief.

My car engine sound is now high. Its working as if its loaded. Like when you add load on generator. That sound.

My engine was always cool. You dont here any sound from it. Now i can hear sound.

DGD1:
op is just advertising innoson cars, but the way he is doing it is very wrong, all he said are baseless.... common, cars from early 90's upward could be used in any part of the world(though some vehicles have issues due to technical know how).
Better let us not start with innoson cars, I can start analysis of that product that are not performing to expectations.... this is not politics that you gain sympathy vote by propaganda, rather than coming so low, you guys should focus more on developing your products to compete globally.
take KIA and Hyundai for example I can remember how their early productions were, but now a kia/Hyundai product can be compared along with Toyota, Nissan and Honda.

abatically:


My car came from Canada, single cell radiator, thermostat intact and fans don't spin unless when required. I can guarantee u that this car will not overheat even if u take it to the Sahara. And I am almost sure that ur car will overheat before mine does.

The reason cars overheat in this country is due to laziness and negligence. Just last week my mechanic went to tow a 2004 Honda accord with a blown head gasket. The owner drove the car until the temperature got to the red zone and he didn't even notice. He drove the car until the car stopped on its own when it could no longer handle the temperature. If u ask me anyone that drives a car until it overheats and stops working is not worthy to own a car. People drive without paying attention to the temperature gauge, they put only water in their radiator because they are lazy . so they choose the easy route which is bypassing the fan, removing thermostat and installing double cell radiator. That way they will never have to keep an eye on the temperature gauge because it will barely rise.

johnny1980:
Would you guys just Fucking explain where you have a divergent view as regards the topic instead of behaving as if you know all. Give differing views and move on. Nigerians and show off. It's not like you have any superior ideas or anything except the deluded notion that your idea is higher. Mstwhew

lomomike:


You must be a very silly person for quoting me and commenting in a rather rude manner. If you're blind and can't see all my comments in this thread, the picture I uploaded from toyota and lexus owners manuals, and previous cartalk thread where even people who have worked in automobile manufacturing companies, mechanical engrs and scientists have written against thermostat removal and altering cooling systems in cars then you are of all men most miserable.

femi4:
A thermometer or temperature sensor picks temperature values depending on the state of the engine. The regional/enviroment temperature is inclusive.

For example, i noticed that the thermostat activate the fan quicker in the hot sun compared to early morning cold start.
The thermostat understand its work perfectly, at heavy traffic, the fan picks up immediately as if it was directly connected

johnny1980:
and you must be deluded to think i would go over your silly profile to ake out whatever ramblings you have typed in the last century. If you can't post relevant links and stuff to correct the point or post it here instead of questioning the guy as if you are in an interview mode or behave as if you are a god or whatever around here.

adanny01:


The thermostat does not control the operation of the fan but the coolant temperature sensor and ECU (brain box). The thermostat only stops water flow at cold start so the temperature can climb up quickly. After that, its work is done unless the temperature drops less that the specified on the thermostat usually between 70-90 degrees Celsius.

tonychristopher:



In a lay man terms I will make this easier for us

Tropicalization of cars

The climate conditions vary severely across the globe and car manufacturers previously made cars for specific countries based on their climate conditions without realizing that with globalization the cars do get exported out from the country where it was originally meant for sale in.

Cars made in Europe used to be designed for European climate which were cooler and dryer than sub tropical Asian countries where temperatures can exceed 40C and have humidity over 80%. The direct impact of exporting a car designed for the European climate to Asia meant that the cars were not able to function at its best. There were many examples of cases where the cars would over heat as the cooling system was not suitable for the sub tropical climate. The radiators were far too small and other components were not able to cope with the high humidity leading to premature failure. Some BMWs, Alfa Romeos and Audis that were imported to Asia from Germany or UK struggled to cope with the heat. Many of these cars could barely travel 100km across an Asian city without overheating.

Some interior components also started to fade and peel off as the coatings and linings were meant for dry climate conditions.
The car manufacturers only realized this in the late 1990s and started to do global scale testing during the development phase.

Things involved in tropicalizing a vehicle:
1. Paint - either repaint or try a good paint sealant.
2. Rubbers and Plastics (e.g. weather strips, dashboard, plastic bumpers, trimmings, etc.) - replace weather strips with tropicalized ones. Other plastic parts may require painting.
3. Cooling system/ Radiator Size/ Fan, etc. - Replace radiator as necessary or replace fan that has higher air flow.

Start with the paint. Its the most expensive part. Next is the cooling system. Then just observe first the other rubber and plastic parts and replace as necessary. Some might not need replacing immediately.

lomomike:


Sir, must you yabb me like that?
I have not been reading.
Simple explanation you would have explained you didn't instead you wasted that space for nothing.

Well, I wanna know in simple english what you mean by tropicalizing a car.

No grammar na.

johnny1980:
and your room temperature in Nigeria is different from what obtains in the US ? I guess you use your iron in the open hot SUN?

johnny1980:
and you must be deluded to think i would go over your silly profile to ake out whatever ramblings you have typed in the last century. If you can't post relevant links and stuff to correct the point or post it here instead of questioning the guy as if you are in an interview mode or behave as if you are a god or whatever around here.

johnny1980:
Would you guys just Fucking explain where you have a divergent view as regards the topic instead of behaving as if you know all. Give differing views and move on. Nigerians and show off. It's not like you have any superior ideas or anything except the deluded notion that your idea is higher. Mstwhew

femi4:
Elementary physics: What is a thermostat?

tonychristopher:


Bros i have stayed in Dubai ..burjuman to be prescise

Dubai isn't a tropical weather go and ask sir

I said tropicalization of cars

femi4:
Elementary physics: What is a thermostat?

Automotive
Main article: Wax thermostatic element

Car engine thermostat
Perhaps the most common example of purely mechanical thermostat technology in use today is the internal combustion engine cooling system thermostat, used to maintain the engine near its optimum operating temperature by regulating the flow of coolant to an air-cooled radiator. This type of thermostat operates using a sealed chamber containing a wax pellet that melts and expands at a set temperature. The expansion of the chamber operates a rod which opens a valve when the operating temperature is exceeded. The operating temperature is determined by the composition of the wax. Once the operating temperature is reached, the thermostat progressively increases or decreases its opening in response to temperature changes, dynamically balancing the coolant recirculation flow and coolant flow to the radiator to maintain the engine temperature in the optimum range. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermostat

lomomike:
More reasons... From experts

eaglechild:

Thank you so much.

This is what probably killed my Nissan.

Before I could cough the mechanic had yanked off the thermostat.

I was so upset.

Mechanics can do and undo.

It burnt my infiniti's engine too (exactly, "Before I could cough the mechanic had yanked off the thermostat. ". And he was damn so convinced.

I was so livid, 'cause the SUV was gulf specs! If the thermostat wasn't yanked off in Dubai, I wondered why he will have to go do something that st00.pid

The engine 'fried' while a dumb friend of mine was taking it to Sagamu.

I had to replace the engine entirely, after first being wrongly advised it could be repaired (wasted 70k on that). Then had to go buy a replacement at Ladipo.

Learnt the hard way . . . 10 years on, it still hurts.