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Re: Proper Analysis Of Design And Cost Of A Foundation Design For Bungalows by semitunde: 10:49pm On May 23, 2015
MrLittleFinger1:


Nice job. But your interpretation of the mix ratios seems confusing, or at best, incorrect. Please, revisit. shocked

Which part is confusing? Maybe it's because of the spacing of the sentences there. Its correct bro.

Though for more realistic site material schedule, one or two indices there might be tweaked a bit, depending on the experience of the person doing the calculation.

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Re: Proper Analysis Of Design And Cost Of A Foundation Design For Bungalows by semitunde: 10:50pm On May 23, 2015
abeffiom:
Firstly speaking as a qualified QUANTITY SURVEYOR dpc is very different from overs site concrete. Pls let that be noted first. DPC means damp proof course which is asingle shit of water proof running alone the wall. We also have Dpm. Which is damp proof membrain which is put in b/w the floor and held by the wire mesh. Pls dpc ain't oversite concrete. Pls.



Correct.
Re: Proper Analysis Of Design And Cost Of A Foundation Design For Bungalows by abdulwastecx(m): 10:53pm On May 23, 2015
abeffiom:
Firstly speaking as a qualified QUANTITY SURVEYOR dpc is very different from overs site concrete. Pls let that be noted first. DPC means damp proof course which is asingle shit of water proof running alone the wall. We also have Dpm. Which is damp proof membrain which is put in b/w the floor and held by the wire mesh. Pls dpc ain't oversite concrete. Pls.

it is just a popular among building construction expert to interchanged those two. to me DPC ( damp proof course ) is a combination of a membrane use after filling (with leterite, hard core and sharp sand) and the concrete placed on top of that membrane basically to prevent moisture from rising through the foundation. basically it serve other structural purpose like allowing a uniform building level to be achieved after foundation, it also serve as tie to join the foundation wall together.
the BRC ( British reinforced mesh ) is introduced at the middle to prevent sinking under its own weight and cracking due to internal tension which may developed in the concrete.

summary. DPC = DPM + oversite concrete

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Re: Proper Analysis Of Design And Cost Of A Foundation Design For Bungalows by opalu: 10:55pm On May 23, 2015
I just did this today.
An event centre only on ground floor.
We fixed columns with pads and also ran reinforcement on the wide strip foundation
Re: Proper Analysis Of Design And Cost Of A Foundation Design For Bungalows by chimchim1(m): 10:57pm On May 23, 2015
Pls, how do i get ur contact. I am in ph too. Or how do i meet u? 08059306124. U can send sms or flash.
Re: Proper Analysis Of Design And Cost Of A Foundation Design For Bungalows by abdulwastecx(m): 11:03pm On May 23, 2015
chimchim1:
Pls, how do i get ur contact. I am in ph too. Or how do i meet u? 08059306124. U can send sms or flash.

ok sir... i will add you up on bbm or whatsapp
Re: Proper Analysis Of Design And Cost Of A Foundation Design For Bungalows by Dieumerci(m): 11:10pm On May 23, 2015
abdulwastecx:
i am open to any question
Good to see this thread on front page.

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Re: Proper Analysis Of Design And Cost Of A Foundation Design For Bungalows by hurricaneChris: 11:11pm On May 23, 2015
Wish I could have this time to write something like this.

Currently, am handling a project in Imo state (2 bedrooms on d ground flr and a pent flr of 2bedrooms also).

The client initially, based on "his engineer's" advise, payed me off after design. I backed off under agreement.

Now his engineer can't handle the project to my details. He started building based on his assumptions. Where I had cantilever by window side for AC on the pent flr, he thought it was a terrace and added door instead of just window. The building on site is far far different from my drawings. And the client has observed it.

He's been begging me to come and complete the job. I told him that for every week I visit owerri because of that project, he must pay me 65k.

If he agrees, we have a deal.

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Re: Proper Analysis Of Design And Cost Of A Foundation Design For Bungalows by COOLDK(m): 11:13pm On May 23, 2015
abdulwastecx:
mix ratio for foundation footing for bungalow should either be 1:3:6 or 1:2:4 for normal soil.
i prefer 1:2:4 ( 1 bag of cement : 4 head pan of sand or 1 wheel barrow of sand : 8 head pan of gravel or 2 wheel barrow of gravel). reason been that the foundation of bungalow is very important because it help to distributes the wall load to foundation adequately.
A typical foundations supporting a three bedroom flat or its equivalent should have the following features

1. minimum thickness of 100mm ( 4'') and should not more than 225mm (9'') thick on a strong soil for economy reason.
2. the sharp sand should not be too smooth and free from clay and other dirt which may reduce the strength of concrete
3. the gravel should be preferably 3/4 ( 20mm) thick and must be free from dust.
4. the water for mixing should be drinkable and free from salt and other chemical contamination
5. the water-cement ratio must not be greater than 0.6.


mode of calculating the volume of concrete for foundation footings ( strip foundation).
1. get the sum of the total gird of the substructure, let say 'P' = 50 ( example)
2. get the width of the foundation, say 450mm (18'') for 150mm ( 6"wink wall and 675mm ( 27" ) for 225mm (9"wink wall
3. Assume a thickness of say 150mm for 6" wall and or 225mm for 9" wall.
4. convert all your dimension to 'm'
5. hence volume, v =50x 0.45 x 0.15 = 3.375m3
6. increase the volume by 25% to cater for shrinkage and wastage. =1.25 x 3.375= 4.05m3

using mix ratio 1:2:4
part of cement = 1/7 x4.05 =0.58m3
since the density of ordinary Portland cement s 1506kg/m3
and i bag = 50kg
hence, no of bags = 0.58 x 1506/50 =17.4bags ( 18 bags aprox.)

part of sand = 2/7 x 4.05 =1.16m3
since the density of sharp sand is 1600kg/m3 and a tonne of sharp sand is 1000kg
hence, 1.16 x 1600/1000 = 1.856tonnes ( 2 tonnes aprox.)

part of gravel = 2 x 1.16 = 2.32m3
since the density of gravel is 2400kg/m3 and a tonne of gravel weight 1000kg
hence, 2.32 x 2.4 =5.57tonnes ( 6 tonnes )

part of water using water cement ratio of 0.6
weight of water = 0.6 weight of cement = 0.6 x 18 x 50 =540kg
volume of water required, from density = mass/volume
making volume subject, volume = mass/density
where density of water = 1000kg/m3
hence, volume of water required = 540/1000= 0.54m3
since,1m3 = 1000liters
volume of water required = 540 liters



Job well done bro.
But in your analysis of cement, is cement density 1560kg/m3 or 1440kg/m3? Cos a Lotta estimates go with the later.

Thanks
Re: Proper Analysis Of Design And Cost Of A Foundation Design For Bungalows by Akan(m): 11:13pm On May 23, 2015
Op, can you do work in Uyo if contracted
Re: Proper Analysis Of Design And Cost Of A Foundation Design For Bungalows by hurricaneChris: 11:14pm On May 23, 2015
Op good work u have done here. Please don't forget to let us know the challenges u faced while on this project.

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Re: Proper Analysis Of Design And Cost Of A Foundation Design For Bungalows by abdulwastecx(m): 11:14pm On May 23, 2015
COOLDK:



Job well done bro.
But in your analysis of cement, is cement density 1560kg or 1440kg? Cos a Lotta estimates go with the later.

Thanks

density of ordinary portland cement is about 1506kg/m3
Re: Proper Analysis Of Design And Cost Of A Foundation Design For Bungalows by abdulwastecx(m): 11:16pm On May 23, 2015
Akan:
Op, can you do work in Uyo if contracted

yes sir...
Re: Proper Analysis Of Design And Cost Of A Foundation Design For Bungalows by sheddo619(m): 11:36pm On May 23, 2015
abdulwastecx:


it is just a popular among building construction expert to interchanged those two. to me DPC ( damp proof course ) is a combination of a membrane use after filling (with leterite, hard core and sharp sand) and the concrete placed on top of that membrane basically to prevent moisture from rising through the foundation. basically it serve other structural purpose like allowing a uniform building level to be achieved after foundation, it also serve as tie to join the foundation wall together.
the BRC ( British reinforced mesh ) is sometime introduced at the middle t prevent sinking under its own weight an cracking due to internal tension which may developed in the concrete.

summary. DPC = DPM + oversite concrete
really dunno if this would help, kindly study d pic below,u would clearly c dat d dpc(at the left) is clearly place at the perimeter of the building while the DPM(at the right) is place within d floor area, not withstanding most contractors usually use a polythene Sheet to cover both d floor area and d perimeter of the building

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Re: Proper Analysis Of Design And Cost Of A Foundation Design For Bungalows by Nobody: 11:47pm On May 23, 2015
abdulwastecx:
Item 2: Land survey; Land survey is important because it allows the builder/engineer understand the following information;
1. Understand the relative height of the site with respect to an ordinance benched mark already in existence
2. It enable the building line of the building to be known
3. It will also help to control the drainage of the building and the site in future.

Most building owners don't do this item 2 because fear of cost or ignorant but it reality, it is relatively cheap to do.
For a small building project, it cost about N10,000 to rent a theodolite or N20,000 to rent a Total stations for one day and the operator/surveyor/engineer is paid around N10,000 making a sum of N30,000 ( maximum).
Is that cost for an ordinary site plan or a registered survey plan or levelling?
R u a surveyor? If ur answer is no, please don't mislead ppl with dis. Correct it
Re: Proper Analysis Of Design And Cost Of A Foundation Design For Bungalows by Gadgetmobil(m): 12:14am On May 24, 2015
Ok
Re: Proper Analysis Of Design And Cost Of A Foundation Design For Bungalows by abdulwastecx(m): 12:15am On May 24, 2015
pinkbee:

Is that cost for an ordinary site plan or a registered survey plan or levelling?
R u a surveyor? If ur answer is no, please don't mislead ppl with dis. Correct it

Madam... this is relative topic of discussion. I am not a surveyor but building leveling can also be done by a civil engineer ( see engineering surveying), All these quotes here are for relatively small building work of say two bedroom to three bedroom flats.
Re: Proper Analysis Of Design And Cost Of A Foundation Design For Bungalows by 2poundz(m): 12:24am On May 24, 2015
abdulwastecx:



IT DEPEND ON THE NATURE OF THE SOIL.
FOR 9" BLOCK ON A NORMAL SOIL ( Qu between >|100kN/m2) = 225mm ( 9"wink
FOR 6" BLOCK ON A NORMAL SOIL = 150mm

I wish i can come over for tutelage.. From ur post, u sound very knowledgeable about this.

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Re: Proper Analysis Of Design And Cost Of A Foundation Design For Bungalows by Castos(m): 1:05am On May 24, 2015
abdulwastecx:
mix ratio for foundation footing for bungalow should either be 1:3:6 or 1:2:4 for normal soil.
i prefer 1:2:4 ( 1 bag of cement : 4 head pan of sand or 1 wheel barrow of sand : 8 head pan of gravel or 2 wheel barrow of gravel). reason been that the foundation of bungalow is very important because it help to distributes the wall load to foundation adequately.
A typical foundations supporting a three bedroom flat or its equivalent should have the following features

1. minimum thickness of 100mm ( 4'') and should not more than 225mm (9'') thick on a strong soil for economy reason.
2. the sharp sand should not be too smooth and free from clay and other dirt which may reduce the strength of concrete
3. the gravel should be preferably 3/4 ( 20mm) thick and must be free from dust.
4. the water for mixing should be drinkable and free from salt and other chemical contamination
5. the water-cement ratio must not be greater than 0.6.


mode of calculating the volume of concrete for foundation footings ( strip foundation).
1. get the sum of the total gird of the substructure, let say 'P' = 50 ( example)
2. get the width of the foundation, say 450mm (18'') for 150mm ( 6"wink wall and 675mm ( 27" ) for 225mm (9"wink wall
3. Assume a thickness of say 150mm for 6" wall and or 225mm for 9" wall.
4. convert all your dimension to 'm'
5. hence volume, v =50x 0.45 x 0.15 = 3.375m3
6. increase the volume by 25% to cater for shrinkage and wastage. =1.25 x 3.375= 4.05m3

using mix ratio 1:2:4
part of cement = 1/7 x4.05 =0.58m3
since the density of ordinary Portland cement s 1506kg/m3
and i bag = 50kg
hence, no of bags = 0.58 x 1506/50 =17.4bags ( 18 bags aprox.)

part of sand = 2/7 x 4.05 =1.16m3
since the density of sharp sand is 1600kg/m3 and a tonne of sharp sand is 1000kg
hence, 1.16 x 1600/1000 = 1.856tonnes ( 2 tonnes aprox.)

part of gravel = 2 x 1.16 = 2.32m3
since the density of gravel is 2400kg/m3 and a tonne of gravel weight 1000kg
hence, 2.32 x 2.4 =5.57tonnes ( 6 tonnes )

part of water using water cement ratio of 0.6
weight of water = 0.6 weight of cement = 0.6 x 18 x 50 =540kg
volume of water required, from density = mass/volume
making volume subject, volume = mass/density
where density of water = 1000kg/m3
hence, volume of water required = 540/1000= 0.54m3
since,1m3 = 1000liters
volume of water required = 540 liters

Oga, I greet your office sir. That 'P' represents what sir, thank you.
Re: Proper Analysis Of Design And Cost Of A Foundation Design For Bungalows by Castos(m): 1:19am On May 24, 2015
abdulwastecx:


it is just a popular among building construction expert to interchanged those two. to me DPC ( damp proof course ) is a combination of a membrane use after filling (with leterite, hard core and sharp sand) and the concrete placed on top of that membrane basically to prevent moisture from rising through the foundation. basically it serve other structural purpose like allowing a uniform building level to be achieved after foundation, it also serve as tie to join the foundation wall together.
the BRC ( British reinforced mesh ) is introduced at the middle to prevent sinking under its own weight and cracking due to internal tension which may developed in the concrete.

summary. DPC = DPM + oversite concrete
Oga, when shall one apply that DPM (that nylon stuff), is it between hardcore and oversite concrete or before hardcore?
Re: Proper Analysis Of Design And Cost Of A Foundation Design For Bungalows by abdulwastecx(m): 1:35am On May 24, 2015
Castos:
Oga, I greet your office sir. That 'P' represents what sir, thank you.
perimeter
Re: Proper Analysis Of Design And Cost Of A Foundation Design For Bungalows by abdulwastecx(m): 1:36am On May 24, 2015
Castos:
Oga, when shall one apply that DPM (that nylon stuff), is it between hardcore and oversite concrete or before hardcore?

between hardcore and oversite concrete
Re: Proper Analysis Of Design And Cost Of A Foundation Design For Bungalows by Castos(m): 2:05am On May 24, 2015
abdulwastecx:


between hardcore and oversite concrete
Thank you sir, please after Will the hardcore cover even the foundation wall? And what is the ratio of mix for the hardcore (please state for bungalow and duplex)
Re: Proper Analysis Of Design And Cost Of A Foundation Design For Bungalows by mystical10: 2:13am On May 24, 2015
Castos:
Thank you sir, please after Will the hardcore cover even the foundation wall? And what is the ratio of mix for the hardcore (please state for bungalow and duplex)
pls can you tell the (estimate) cost of building 3 self content bedroom with sitting room, dinning and kitchen in owerri
Re: Proper Analysis Of Design And Cost Of A Foundation Design For Bungalows by Castos(m): 2:20am On May 24, 2015
mystical10:
pls can you tell the (estimate) cost of building 3 self content bedroom with sitting room, dinning and kitchen in owerri
I don't about Owerri, in Anambra 6-7m call build a decent bungalow of 3bedroom.
Re: Proper Analysis Of Design And Cost Of A Foundation Design For Bungalows by mystical10: 2:56am On May 24, 2015
Castos:
I don't about Owerri, in Anambra 6-7m call build a decent bungalow of 3bedroom.
ok.
Re: Proper Analysis Of Design And Cost Of A Foundation Design For Bungalows by temmy6996(m): 5:21am On May 24, 2015
abdulwastecx:
mix ratio for foundation footing for bungalow should either be 1:3:6 or 1:2:4 for normal soil.
i prefer 1:2:4 ( 1 bag of cement : 4 head pan of sand or 1 wheel barrow of sand : 8 head pan of gravel or 2 wheel barrow of gravel). reason been that the foundation of bungalow is very important because it help to distributes the wall load to foundation adequately.
A typical foundations supporting a three bedroom flat or its equivalent should have the following features

1. minimum thickness of 100mm ( 4'') and should not more than 225mm (9'') thick on a strong soil for economy reason.
2. the sharp sand should not be too smooth and free from clay and other dirt which may reduce the strength of concrete
3. the gravel should be preferably 3/4 ( 20mm) thick and must be free from dust.
4. the water for mixing should be drinkable and free from salt and other chemical contamination
5. the water-cement ratio must not be greater than 0.6.


mode of calculating the volume of concrete for foundation footings ( strip foundation).
1. get the sum of the total gird of the substructure, let say 'P' = 50 ( example)
2. get the width of the foundation, say 450mm (18'') for 150mm ( 6"wink wall and 675mm ( 27" ) for 225mm (9"wink wall
3. Assume a thickness of say 150mm for 6" wall and or 225mm for 9" wall.
4. convert all your dimension to 'm'
5. hence volume, v =50x 0.45 x 0.15 = 3.375m3
6. increase the volume by 25% to cater for shrinkage and wastage. =1.25 x 3.375= 4.05m3

using mix ratio 1:2:4
part of cement = 1/7 x4.05 =0.58m3
since the density of ordinary Portland cement s 1506kg/m3
and i bag = 50kg
hence, no of bags = 0.58 x 1506/50 =17.4bags ( 18 bags aprox.)

part of sand = 2/7 x 4.05 =1.16m3
since the density of sharp sand is 1600kg/m3 and a tonne of sharp sand is 1000kg
hence, 1.16 x 1600/1000 = 1.856tonnes ( 2 tonnes aprox.)

part of gravel = 2 x 1.16 = 2.32m3
since the density of gravel is 2400kg/m3 and a tonne of gravel weight 1000kg
hence, 2.32 x 2.4 =5.57tonnes ( 6 tonnes )

part of water using water cement ratio of 0.6
weight of water = 0.6 weight of cement = 0.6 x 18 x 50 =540kg
volume of water required, from density = mass/volume
making volume subject, volume = mass/density
where density of water = 1000kg/m3
hence, volume of water required = 540/1000= 0.54m3
since,1m3 = 1000liters
volume of water required = 540 liters

I disagree with the mix ratio u explained here. The 1:3:6 is used for mass concrete n the 1:2:4 is for reinforced concrete. Pls try n verify n apply corrections too.

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Re: Proper Analysis Of Design And Cost Of A Foundation Design For Bungalows by abdulwastecx(m): 5:31am On May 24, 2015
temmy6996:
I disagree with the mix ratio u explained here. The 1:3:6 is used for mass concrete n the 1:2:4 is for reinforced concrete. Pls try n verify n apply corrections too.

1: 3: 6 is weaker than 1: 2: 4 or 1: 2: 4 is stronger than 1: 3: 6, The difference between the two is just the cement content and the ratio of aggregates.

we are talking about a bungalow where the load on the structure are not that critical, hence a well placed concrete of 1: 3: 6 will do the work sufficiently.

The problem now is we don't even follow these ratios because of inadequate concrete production mechanism like batching plant.
Re: Proper Analysis Of Design And Cost Of A Foundation Design For Bungalows by babareketaiwo(f): 5:36am On May 24, 2015
Pls send this breakdown analysis to my email taiwo@doctor.com
Re: Proper Analysis Of Design And Cost Of A Foundation Design For Bungalows by abdulwastecx(m): 5:47am On May 24, 2015
Castos:
Thank you sir, please after Will the hardcore cover even the foundation wall? And what is the ratio of mix for the hardcore (please state for bungalow and duplex)

hardcore is not a concrete but is the material put under floor . It is used as a sub base after building the foundation wall to make up levels before casting the ground floor oversite concrete of DPC.
The recommended type of material for hardcore
is hard stone ballast or quarry waste that is retained on a 150mm BS sieve .
Care should be taken
to ensure that the hardcore is free of weeds, roots, vegetable soil,
clay, black cotton soil or other unsuitable materials. Broken stones
or brick and waste concrete from a demolished structure can also be used as hardcore

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Re: Proper Analysis Of Design And Cost Of A Foundation Design For Bungalows by abdulwastecx(m): 5:47am On May 24, 2015
Castos:
Thank you sir, please after Will the hardcore cover even the foundation wall? And what is the ratio of mix for the hardcore (please state for bungalow and duplex)

hardcore is not a concrete but is the material put under floor . It is used as a sub base after building the foundation wall to make up levels before casting the ground floor oversite concrete or DPC.
The recommended type of material for hardcore
is hard stone ballast or quarry waste that is retained on a 150mm BS sieve .
Care should be taken
to ensure that the hardcore is free of weeds, roots, vegetable soil,
clay, black cotton soil or other unsuitable materials. Broken stones
or brick and waste concrete from a demolished structure can also be used as hardcore
Re: Proper Analysis Of Design And Cost Of A Foundation Design For Bungalows by abdulwastecx(m): 5:49am On May 24, 2015
mystical10:
pls can you tell the (estimate) cost of building 3 self content bedroom with sitting room, dinning and kitchen in owerri

send the drawing to my mail so i can help with the estimates

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