Henry120:


But your Block 2 Plane is only 10% better than a JF-17 block 1. Is this enough to cost $43 million more.

Nope actually is much much better.

Henry120:


Where is your evidence?

It's called commonsense.

Henry120:


Why can't you just prove you have above 9 qualified Gripen pilots?

Take your mental health issues elsewhere. I told you before, dont bother wasting YOUR own time replying to me. Plenty other people willing to entertain you. You shift goal posts once questions start getting answered.
Does the SAAF have 6 or 9 qualified pilots? You yourself keep changing that number when it suites you. Waste your own time.

ssaengine:
I find it amazing that it took Nairaland (not other experienced military institutions such as Janes) just 2 days to expose to the WORLD that Gripen CANNOT do basic combat maneuvers. It cannot do what it was designed to do. By detailed analysis of videos and crashes, members of this forum have exposed the lies of SAAB. I am truelly, honestly impressed.

It was exposed in 1989 crash and confirmed again in 2008 crash......and I have been shouting screaming about it on Nairaland since two years ago ! I always said repeatedly that Gripen maneuverability is same as F-7 jet.

Countries buy Gripen are paying $68 million for political, commercial, or criminal reasons.....

1. Sweden bought 75% of all Gripens because they manufacture it. Political.

2. South Africa bought highest number of Gripen exports yet, because manufacturer bribed them. Criminal.

3. Brazil is buying Gripen jet in exchange for Sweden buying about 100 Brazilian made Super Tucanos. Commercial.

4. Czech bought Gripen on lease agreement. Commercial

5. Hungary bought Gripen on lease agreement. Commercial

The nations refusing to buy Gripen have seen things, India, Denmark, Norway....long list of those who evaluated Gripen and ran away.

Why pay $68 million for a jet that has same maneuverability with F-7 jet ? Who want's to be a fool ?
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AugustineAgain:


It was exposed in 1989 crash and confirmed again in 2008 crash......and I have been shouting screaming about it on Nairaland since two years ago ! I always said repeatedly that Gripen maneuverability is same as F-7 jet.

Countries buy Gripen are paying $68 million for political, commercial, or criminal reasons.....

1. Sweden bought 75% of all Gripens because the built it. Political.

2. South Africa bought highest number of Gripen exports because manufacturer bribed them. Criminal.

3. Brazil is buying Gripen jet in exchange for Sweden buying about 100 Brazilian made Super Tucanos. Commercial.

4. Czech bought Gripen on lease agreement. Commercial

5. Hungary bought Gripen on lease agreement. Commercial

The nations refusing to buy Gripen have seen things, India, Denmark, Norway....long list of those who evaluated Gripen and ran away.

Why pay $68 million for a jet that has same maneuverability with F-7 jet ? Who want's to be a fool ?
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He was being sarcastic re,tard.

jln115:

He was being sarcastic re,tard.

He was being Butt Hurt by our complete demolition of the Gripen....retaard.

AugustineAgain:


He was being Butt Hurt by our complete demolition of the Gripen....retaard.

The only one suffering from butt hurt here is you mate! The Fact that we have one of thee best fighters in the world makes you extremely depressed.

The fact is if Nigeria bought Gripens you would literally sh1t your pants due to emense joy!

Henry120:


Who is ordering the Half-French, this was the question?

Who is ordering the Igiri apc, and all the other bullsh@iit proforce and its amateurs are building.

What military hardware has nigeria ever exported to any western or african country.

I will await an honest answer from you.

agaugust:


Show me where DENEL tested A-Darter missile against a fellow missile

A-Darter was tested against a slow speed subsonic target drone 4 times slower than even NAF PL-9C

Defenceweb and DENEL say A-Darter range is max 19 km, I posted sources many times here.

SAAF missile range gets shorter by the day, from 25 km IRIS-T down to a 19 km overpriced missile
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A-Darter range: 20km.

IRIS-T: 25km.

5th Generation missiles can intercept air to air and surface to air missiles.

agaugust:


Yes :

1. A whole squadron of SAAF Gripens in cold stotage

2. A missile each per jet in SAAF

3. A team of 9 unqualified pilots for 26 jets in 15 years of SAAF training

Yes, there will be South African standard repeated ad infinitum
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After typing this you realise if this was the case SAAF would still be better than NAF.

litesea:

You just have to wait for the block 3 with dual seat,ws19 engine,western radars and avionics plus additional hard points its going to have a really big bite force

India will be taking delivery of the Rafale!

litesea:

Is it really worth the price tag i dont think so

That's why India will keep giving you guys a hiding cause you keep buying trash can worthy systems!

India is getting the Rafale!

You're planning on getting the Junk fighter!

AugustineAgain:


I always said NO SINGLE SAAF Gripen pilot is combat qualified, they do NOT have the standard flying hours for combat skills.

SAAF is disqualified from participating in currently ongoing June 2015 Exercise Lion Effort organized by SAAB manufacturers
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Did Thailand take part in the exercise?

mzilakazi:



Bwahaha… Mr Botha's apartheid regime did not give everyone electricity only 20% of black middle class received power. ANC gives power to all and that's why there's a load shedding because demand noe overshadows the supply.

20% of black middle class? Zulus are 15% in the middle class in 2015. In Botha's regime the middle class of Zulus were butlers, garners and pig rearers.
Anyways there's still load shedding today with massive public and government infrastructural decay. Say thanks to Zulu.

Henry120:


Why can't you just prove you have above 9 qualified Gripen pilots?

Why can't you prove you have pilots at all?

lezz:
20% of black middle class? Zulus are 15% in the middle class in 2015. In Botha's regime the middle class of Zulus were butlers, garners and pig rearers.
Anyways there's still load shedding today with massive public and government infrastructural decay. Say thanks to Zulu.

@lezz whats up,, u have been invincible on NL .... did anyone ban u..
just give me d moniker I definitely know how 2 do justice 2 dem.....

Wow so dis thread z still on ... Na Wa ooo

MikeCZAR:
Did Thailand take part in the exercise?

Yes.

ddami:
@lezz whats up,, u have been invincible on NL .... did anyone ban u..
just give me d moniker I definitely know how 2 do justice 2 dem.....

Wow so dis thread z still on ... Na Wa ooo

lolz, just got out of the bars. Them MODs swam at me. Not one but three of them , and all males after I disarmed the female MODs they got initially. Each ban is a medal to me.

Everyone's a troll, I'm just the only guy who enjoys being one. Even the Zulus miss me when I was gone

But I'm back. Let me start scheming for my next ban.

lezz:
lolz, just got out of the bars. Them MODs swam at me. Not one but three of them , and all males after I disarmed the female MODs they got initially. Each ban is a medal to me.

Everyone's troll, I'm just the only guy who enjoys being one. Even the Zulus miss me when I was gone

But I'm back. Let me start scheming for my next ban.

ahaha serious war with u and d mods am sure its d work of one dis people around here.... well me am watching closely incase one of ur FOREIGN FANS....
MISQUOTE,
MISTYPE,
MISTHINK here...
about Nigeria
I need 2 unleash some insults especially @jnl115 or what's DAT his name again.....
u can continue lecturing,, me i'aint gat patience 4 dat , I don't even know anything about military but I love dem....

lezz:
20% of black middle class? Zulus are 15% in the middle class in 2015. In Botha's regime the middle class of Zulus were butlers, garners and pig rearers.
Anyways there's still load shedding today with massive public and government infrastructural decay. Say thanks to Zulu.

The monkey escaped!!! Again??

Currently on his way to makoko restaurant for national Igbo delicacy roasted toenails, while weeping because of SA visa denial.

jln115:

No.. You mean an economy which even though is temporarily struggling, still has a much better credit rating than the Nigerian economy!

And also an economy which has a higher GDP per capita, higher foreign reserves, and bigger treasury.

is it just me or are you a little bitter? Your credit ratings and per capital is all hug wash. You are number 2 on the continent and won't even be staying there long. Ethiopia and others will soon be breathing down your primitive necks at the current rate they are growing.

Your economy is at a stagnation at its zenith. South Africa has nothing new to unleash anymore. The magical Anglo-dutch who did the magic by making sure Zulus are kept a level one step higher than domestic animals are gone.

All we see now are strikes, labour unrest, corruption, crime and economic stagnation. Zulu didn't finish learning before being thrusted with the burden of modern rulership. that's why the ISS reports says S.A ain't flying anywhere .

Nigeria bleeped you economically without even scratching the surface of its economic and manpower potential. In the next 10years Nigeria would have rendered you completely redundant in African affairs. Every Zulu should be worried, but of course stupidity saves a man from anxiety and Zulus have got an abundance of the stupidity gene.

Now say welcome to me from my long ban.

DictatorZAR:


The monkey escaped!!! Again??

Currently on his way to makoko restaurant for national Igbo delicacy roasted toenails, while weeping because of SA visa denial.

DictatorZAR the worthless Zulu who has as much value as a thoroughly sucked out orange .

Talking about Makoko, there is the makoko of Nigeria and the makoko of Africa which is Khayelitsha of South Africa where humans and giant rats merge in the most primitive cohabitation known to modern humans.

Instead of trying to regain your lost self value on NL you should invest that time to volunteer as a spear wielding Zulu in guarding the children of khayelitsha and Soweto from those big rats

Now off you go.

MikeCZAR:
Why can't you prove you have pilots at all?

We don't have a Pilot shortage, on the other hand SAAF pilot shortage is well documented.

AugustineAgain:

[s]
Yes you quoted me right, I said this :

"South Africa has 14 in service but NEVER do combat maneuver, pilots NOT combat qualified, only take off and land for Mandela's funeral"

I said pilots NOT combat qualified.....that wrecks the entire SAAF....you should be ashamed

The 14 Gripens crawl on the ground or fly at funerals NO combat maneuver !

Lion Effort 2015 is on-going now, NO SINGLE SAAF pilots allowed to participate.....NONE qualified to do combat !

That's why SAAF is missing at 2015 current Lion Effort exercise o[/s] !
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You said South Africa has 14 operational Gripen - who operates 14 Gripen if we only have 9 pilots?

AugustineAgain:
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Another Gripen Junk Aircraft Crash due to combat maneuver !

This time it's like fly-by wire failure due to junk parts.

Secret of SAAB exposed : Gripen jets CANNOT do combat maneuvers...Fake 8.5 g load claims !

Another $68 million loss....and still counting !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkgShfxTzmo

Ah ! $25 million Pakistani JF-17 will use superior dogfight maneuver to kill the Gripen in war o !
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A low airpseed Gripen crash proves what?

AugustineAgain:


[s] One $15 million JF-17 crash only

Seven $68 million Gripen junk aircraft crashes inclusing two in the last 21 days, even disgraced at on-going Exercise Lion Effort 2015

7 x $68 million = approx half a billion dollars Gripen loss.

Gripen junk was built, specified, claimed, priced, and sold at $68 million to last 50 years in service, now the jets crumbling in 5 years o !

Please call AIICO Insurance company before Gripen junk bankrupts the world o !

PHOTO : THE GRIPEN BELOW CRASHED INSIDE A RESIDENTIAL AREA ON OPEN FIELD NEAR PEOPLE'S HOUSES.

$68 MILLION DOLLAR FAILURES ALL OVER THE PLACE NOW ![/s]
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3% Crash rate over 20 years

ssaengine:


Take your mental health issues elsewhere. I told you before, dont bother wasting YOUR own time replying to me. Plenty other people willing to entertain you. You shift goal posts once questions start getting answered.
Does the SAAF have 6 or 9 qualified pilots? You yourself keep changing that number when it suites you. Waste your own time.

Always running emotions all over the place, sometimes, I just can't help but think you are a girl.

6 qualified Pilots comment was made by you M.P, David Maynier of the D.A.

According to Defenceweb the SAAF only has a Gripen Air crew of 18 (Pilots and Navigtors) for 26 planes.

Instead of providing evidence that you have more than 9 qualified pilots, you instead run around this thread b1tching.

Posting photos does not prove that,

A, the Guys in the photos are all pilots

B, they are winged Pilots

C, they are trainee pilots

D, Still flying in active service

E, All Navigators

F, a mix of Pilots and Navigators.

G, are qualified pilots/navigators

H, are only qualified pilots

I, are only qualified Navigators.


I'm your photos do not prove jack sh1t!! Yet, you want us to believe they are all Gripen qualified pilots. Are you retarrded, how is that?

Stop beating about the bush, and provide evidence that SAAF has above 9 qualified Gripen pilots, as SAAF Gripen pilot shortages are well documented!

Henry120:


Every proper Army knows that an Air arm is a critical component of it's battle strategy. The Soweto Army isn't modern enough to understand this.


I initially was in favour of moving the Hinds to the Army Air Corps to complement the Army's Gazelle Helicopters. Gazelle for SOF role, while the Hinds would provide full assault.

The CH-3As should remain with the Airforce, same as T-129s when eventually ordered.

hahahahaha

This is what Nigerians actually believe

FYI: Poor Command and Control has lead to this

Henry120:


Buhahahahaha........ you desperado!!!

You only have 9 Gripen Pilots in SAAF service.

Not according to fellow nigerians

AugustineAgain:


[s]American F-16 jet pilots die in their crashes.

We are comparing aircraft not pilots....did the jets die....yes the junk Gripens crashed, died and will NEVER fly again

Gripen pilots are always ready to push the emergency eject button since they learnt their lesson in 1989 crash.

Every Gripen pilot flies with his finger very near to the eject button.....because they know crash is always very likely [/s]
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No argument from augubug = childish insults

This is what the "military researcher" has been forced to resort to

jln115:

It's called commonsense.

You have 26 planes, what amount of pilots should you ordinarily have?