patches689:


how does SAAF keep 14 Gripen in the air with 9 pilots?

SAAF actually keeps it's Gripens on ground, except there is a funeral ceremony airshow like that of Mandela , just flying to event venue and back to base.....ZERO combat maneuvers. Simple.
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patches689:


and this well chronicled shortage says we have 9 pilots?

Yes, SAAF has ONLY 9 Gripen pilots and NONE qualified for combat. That's why they were disqualified from joining current 2015 Lion Effort exercise, they don't want your mörön Southie pilots crashing into innocent people !
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jln115:

Because paying $43 million more for a fighter which is 100x better than the JF -17 is a bargain if you ask me.

If you are going to spend 68Million you might as well just buy the j10

AugustineAgain:


Unnamed Asian customer has purchased 24 JF-17 Thunder this month at Paris air show. The new vertical take off capability was irresistible.

Buyers are taking their time, nobody is bribing them to rush like SAAF/ANC was bribed to rush into Gripen purchase.

The richest countries in the world have lined up to buy JF-17 Thunder, nations richer than those who bought Gripen
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Unnamed costumer is Myanmaar and they are buying the fc1 version(no western components inferior version)

MikeCZAR:
That's why India will keep giving you guys a hiding cause you keep buying trash can worthy systems!

India is getting the Rafale!

You're planning on getting the Junk fighter!

JF17 is there to replace f7 while to counter rafale Pakistan is buying the fc31

lezz:
DictatorZAR the worthless Zulu who has as much value as a thoroughly sucked out orange .

Talking about Makoko, there is the makoko of Nigeria and the makoko of Africa which is Khayelitsha of South Africa where humans and giant rats merge in the most primitive cohabitation known to modern humans.

Instead of trying to regain your lost self value on NL you should invest that time to volunteer as a spear wielding Zulu in guarding the children of khayelitsha and Soweto from those big rats

Now off you go.

I'm not on your level little boy go ask @morpheus how he got destroyed trying the same amateur stunt.

http://www.angelfalese.com/2012/09/nigerians-caught-selling-rat-meat-in.html?m=1

Now read how rats are eating babies in your country.
http://www.newyorkdailysun.com/cornering-the-nigerian-rat/

DictatorZAR:


I'm not on your level little boy go ask @morpheus how he got destroyed trying the same amateur stunt.

http://www.angelfalese.com/2012/09/nigerians-caught-selling-rat-meat-in.html?m=1

Now read how rats are eating babies in your country.
http://www.newyorkdailysun.com/cornering-the-nigerian-rat/

Is this what you've got? Lesser fever rats? you are so dumb. Zulus have never fought and won any battle and you're keeping with that tradition, you swamp lemming. All your weak link gave was the speculation ofone indindividual who wasn't even a victim when we talk about South African rats we're talking about 3 foot long rat who consume babies whole in Soweto and khayelitsha for lunch.

Let me give you real situation picture right from the scene ....

Henry120:


You have 26 planes, what amount of pilots should you ordinarily have?

You have 11 F-7s what amount of pilots should you ordinarily have?

lezz:
is it just me or are you a little bitter? Your credit ratings and per capital is all hug wash. You are number 2 on the continent and won't even be staying there long. Ethiopia and others will soon be breathing down your primitive necks at the current rate they are growing.

Your economy is at a stagnation at its zenith. South Africa has nothing new to unleash anymore. The magical Anglo-dutch who did the magic by making sure Zulus are kept a level one step higher than domestic animals are gone.

All we see now are strikes, labour unrest, corruption, crime and economic stagnation. Zulu didn't finish learning before being thrusted with the burden of modern rulership. that's why the ISS reports says S.A ain't flying anywhere .

Nigeria bleeped you economically without even scratching the surface of its economic and manpower potential. In the next 10years Nigeria would have rendered you completely redundant in African affairs. Every Zulu should be worried, but of course stupidity saves a man from anxiety and Zulus have got an abundance of the stupidity gene.

Now say welcome to me from my long ban.

Firstly its called per capita! Not per capital and just because one dum Nigerian says its hogwash doesn't change the fact that we are better than you.

Secondly dude! What don't you understand about the most diverse and sophisticated economy in Africa?

What it means is, unlike Nigeria, when the economy is struggling there are structures in place to lower the negative impact a struggling economy might have, our growth rate is also expected to reach 5% again in 2018.

The only person who should be worries is you, your country is bankrupt at the moment and if the oil prices don't raise ALOT you guys are fvcked! This is what happens to economies which rely on a limited number of income streams.

litesea:

If you are going to spend 68Million you might as well just buy the j10

Uhm? Why would we buy a Chinese copy of the euro fighter, If the Gripen is just as good/ even better in some aspects than the original?

lezz:
Truth hurts and makes you bitter.

The TRUTH IS THE TRUTH whether nobody believes it, same way a LIE IS A LIE even if EVERYONE believes it.

Resolved: Gripen can be out maneuvered by its rivals

Umh the TRUTH is they can't!

lezz:
The SANDF is the highest sexual offenders in Africa:http://m.news24.com/news24/SouthAfrica/News/SA-troops-amongst-worst-sexual-offenders-UN-report-20150624

Over 2000 soldiers and over period of 6 years and only 9 incidents, Nigeria was 3rd on the list with 7 incidents over the same period, and you have less soldiers on peace keeping duty than us, thus precentige wise Nigerian soldiers are worse than SANDF ones.

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jln115:


Hahahaah dude! What don't you understand about the most diverse and sophisticated economy?

What it means is, unlike Nigeria, when the economy is struggling there are structures in place to lower the negative impact a struggling economy might have, our growth rate is expected to reach 5% again in 2018.

The only person who should be worries is you, your country is bankrupt at the moment and if the oil prices don't raise ALOT you guys are fvcked! This is what happens to economies which rely on a limited number of income steems.

You claim to be an accountant in the making, and to you an entity with $7 billion debt and $30 billion cash reserves is bankrupt

You will end your career life as a salon barber
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AugustineAgain:


You claim to be an accountant in the making, and to you an entity with $7 billion debt and $30 billion cash reserves is bankrupt

You will end your career life as a salon barber
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What about all your other expenses retardo?what about the fact that Nigeria has been making a Net Loss the past months thanks to the low oil prices, what about the fact that your own president says your bankrupt?

jln115:

Uhm? Why would we buy a Chinese copy of the euro fighter, If the Gripen is just as good/ even better in some aspects than the original?

Its comparable to F16 c/d and has a significant Israeli input don't underestimate the power of Chinese aircraft

litesea:

Unnamed costumer is Myanmaar and they are buying the fc1 version(no western components inferior version)

They are getting domestic production license, technology transfer makes it worth it.

The countries that are laughing at JF-17 Thunder have NEVER manufactured one 4th generation air superiority jet fighter in their history, now Myanmar is ahead of them while they laugh
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litesea:

Its comparable to F16 c/d and has a significant Israeli input don't underestimate the power of Chinese aircraft

I'm not under estimating it, but it is what it is, and what it is not, is as good as the Gripen.

AugustineAgain:


They are getting domestic production license, technology transfer makes it worth it.

The countries that are laughing at JF-17 Thunder have NEVER manufactured one 4th generation air superiority jet fighter in their history, now Myanmar is ahead of them while they laugh
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The jf17 will replace mig 21/j7 for the entire world

jln115:

I'm not under estimating it, but it is what it is, and what it is not, is as good as the Gripen.

You are downright delusional!

jln115:

I'm not under estimating it, but it is what it is, and what it is not, is as good as the Gripen.

Trust me a j10 can run over gripen any time of the week and after the number of crashes i think jf17 is a better option plus EU can sanction Nigeria and transfer of technology will definitely not be offered in case of gripen

Henry120:


A 10% difference. Shame!

Plus 48million additional dollars

jln115:

What about all your other expenses retardo?what about the fact that Nigeria has been making a Net Loss the past months thanks to the low oil prices, what about the fact that your own president says your bankrupt?

The expenses are recurrent expenditure, a few months salary arrears of less than $ 100 million outstanding, so how does that make a man with $30 billion bankrupt?

Foolish barber, Fake accountant, you cannot even do elementary book keeping for a tiny spaza retail shop
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Henry120:


You are downright delusional!

By delusional you mean 100% factual, then yes I'm delusional.

jln115:

What about all your other expenses retardo?what about the fact that Nigeria has been making a Net Loss the past months thanks to the low oil prices, what about the fact that your own president says your bankrupt?

Post the accounts , the P & L a/c of Nigeria showing net loss.

Oil production costs about $30 per barrel, currently sells for $60 per barrel.....that is a loss ?

Fake accountant !

litesea:

JF17 is there to replace f7 while to counter rafale Pakistan is buying the fc31

Nigeria is listed as potential buyer of this stealth jet too.

I guess if NAF drops the Su-30 Flanker off the list of potentials, they might just go fully the PAF way.

JF-17 as 4th gen + J-20 stealth as 5th gen

24 units of the JF-17 and 6 units of the J-20 will give Nigeria the status of best air force in Africa
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litesea:

Trust me a j10 can run over gripen any time of the week and after the number of crashes i think jf17 is a better option plus EU can sanction Nigeria and transfer of technology will definitely not be offered in case of gripen

Oh? I should just trust you?

But the facts are:
The Gripen has a better HMI
Better HMD
better range
Lower stall speed
Lower wing loading, thus better manoeuvrability.
Better radar
Lower maintenance costs.
Shorter take off and landing distances
Better AoA.
Ect
Ect

AugustineAgain:


Nigeria is listed as potential buyer of this stealth jet too.

I guess if NAF drops the Su-30 Flanker off the list of potentials, they might just go fully the PAF way.

JF-17 as 4th gen + J-20 stealth as 5th gen

24 units of the JF-17 and 6 units of the J-20 will give Nigeria the status of best air force in Africa
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Thats the fc 31 not j20 china offered the j20 only to Pakistan and the fc31 isnt going to be ready before 2020 and china will first export them to Pakistan so Nigeria will have to wait for atleast 2013-24 for this

AugustineAgain:


The expenses are recurrent expenditure, a few months salary arrears of less than $ 100 million outstanding, so how does that make a man with $30 billion bankrupt?

Foolish barber, Fake accountant, you cannot even do elementary book keeping for a tiny spaza retail shop
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Dude Nigeria is making a loss every month, I posted multiple sources that showed this.

litesea:

Trust me a j10 can run over gripen any time of the week and after the number of crashes i think jf17 is a better option plus EU can sanction Nigeria and transfer of technology will definitely not be offered in case of gripen

Gripen buyers got ZERO technology transfer for a $68 million jet.

JF-17 buyers are offered technology transfer for a $25 million jet.

The Gripen exposes buyers to sanctions, like NATO did to South African Mirage jets during war with Cuba, leading to defeat of SAAF in the air
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AugustineAgain:


Post the accounts , the P & L a/c of Nigeria showing net loss.

Oil production costs about $30 per barrel, currently sells for $60 per barrel.....that is a loss ?

Fake accountant !

I have posted multiple sources, go look it up.

jln115:

Oh? I should just trust you?

But the facts are:
The Gripen has a better HMI
Better HMD
better range
Lower stall speed
Lower wing loading, thus better manoeuvrability.
Better radar
Lower maintenance costs.
Shorter take off and landing distances
Better AoA.
Ect
Ect

J10 can detect and destroy the jas before it even detects it
http://www.saairforce.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1940