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Re: My Ikorodu Mansion; The DIY Report. by Nobody: 1:13pm On Jul 31, 2015
Congrat OP, it's not too easy but ones focus and determination will always yield a good result , been following..Perfect Touch Aluminium gives you quality and great service with affordable quote, we balance our proffesional experience to deliver modern and attractive works that beautifies the building and give it a perfect look, call us today @ Perfect Touch Aluminium Tel:08153665659,08067079715,.
Re: My Ikorodu Mansion; The DIY Report. by Qc1(m): 1:46pm On Jul 31, 2015
adeekiti:
Congrat OP, it's not too easy but ones focus and determination will always yield a good result , been following..Perfect Touch Aluminium gives you quality and great service with affordable quote, we balance our proffesional experience to deliver modern and attractive works that beautifies the building and give it a perfect look, call us today @ Perfect Touch Aluminium Tel:08153665659,08067079715,.


Thank you sir.

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Re: My Ikorodu Mansion; The DIY Report. by kopell: 1:48pm On Jul 31, 2015
@Qc1 congratulation, exprence is the best teacher
I hope you stop banging the neighborhood girls. Lol, you're doing very good stay bless.
Re: My Ikorodu Mansion; The DIY Report. by mufutau55(m): 1:57pm On Jul 31, 2015
kopell:
@Qc1 congratulation, exprence is the best teacher
I hope you stop banging the neighborhood girls. Lol, you're doing very good stay bless.

@Kopell... you still remember that? Na wah o!

Hajji M.
Re: My Ikorodu Mansion; The DIY Report. by semitunde: 5:43pm On Jul 31, 2015
kopell:
@Qc1 congratulation, exprence is the best teacher
I hope you stop banging the neighborhood girls. Lol, you're doing very good stay bless.


Lol. Now I remember his thread!

Op well done bro. Win some, lose some is part of life. The fact that you still came out of this smilling is a testament to your character.
Re: My Ikorodu Mansion; The DIY Report. by Qc1(m): 6:49pm On Jul 31, 2015
kopell:
@Qc1 congratulation, exprence is the best teacher
I hope you stop banging the neighborhood girls. Lol, you're doing very good stay bless.

Ha! I beg my wife is reading this thread oooo.... I think you've mistaken me for another person! wink wink wink

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Re: My Ikorodu Mansion; The DIY Report. by mufutau55(m): 6:51pm On Jul 31, 2015
Qc1:

Ha! I beg my wife is reading this tread oooo.... I think you've mistaken me for another person! wink wink wink

NO. It wasn't you o. smiley Mistaken identity ni o.

Hajji M.

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Re: My Ikorodu Mansion; The DIY Report. by Qc1(m): 8:01pm On Jul 31, 2015
semitunde:



Lol. Now I remember his thread!

Op well done bro. Win some, lose some is part of life. The fact that you still came out of this smilling is a testament to your character.


Thank you my boss, God bless you.

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Re: My Ikorodu Mansion; The DIY Report. by suave558(m): 2:10am On Aug 01, 2015
It's not easy I must say buh as long as you've started, you're definitely gonna finish it. . . congrats sir

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Re: My Ikorodu Mansion; The DIY Report. by Qc1(m): 6:34am On Aug 01, 2015
suave558:
It's not easy I must say buh as long as you've started, you're definitely gonna finish it. . . congrats sir



Thank you sir.
Re: My Ikorodu Mansion; The DIY Report. by Qc1(m): 7:16am On Aug 01, 2015
I know there are a lot of professionals in regard to building and property here in this forum. I have some questions for you guys...

(1) This wasn't a good land to start with, it's a swampy and sloppy down the hill, maybe 20 feet to the main road. But the slop is gradually and steady. Within a month the house sank about 3 feet. I'm thinking this was because I rushed to roofing level in less than 7 weeks. I waited for about 10 months to proceed to next level because I was scared speed the building sank into land. Although the house sank another half a feet or so again but since then it has stopped. Thank God I had 14 coaches of blocks above the raft(which has since completely disappeared) on the main floor. There was a time the DPC was below the outside perimeters and I had to re-floor it again to be at the same level with the land.

Knowing this fact, do I go ahead and install marbles and tiles to cover the floors? If yes, how much area should I cover and how light do I need the tiles to be, so that it won't post any danger to the building and start sinking again?

(2) What is the best way to secure the fence from thieves and monkeys coming from the bush next from my house? My site is currently the last house on that street and the bush is next to it. My wife is scare of rats talk less of monkeys. My wife and I can't conclude if to go with electric fence or barbed wired fence. During the blocks work on the main floor, there was an incident where some 4 "thug"monkeys slapped a 9 years old girl who was sent on an errand to buy a loaf of bread, the monkeys just overpowered her and stole the bread from her.


Thank you all, I'm desperately in need of advises and ideas.
Re: My Ikorodu Mansion; The DIY Report. by Qc1(m): 12:27pm On Aug 01, 2015
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Re: My Ikorodu Mansion; The DIY Report. by kopell: 3:06pm On Aug 01, 2015
This is really scary if monkey can attack doing day. Bros for you coming from west you may need automatic short gun, to take care of those monkeys and other like them. In my opinion electric fance with visible sign will help too.
Re: My Ikorodu Mansion; The DIY Report. by FastShipping: 3:41pm On Aug 01, 2015
Qc1:
I know there are a lot of professionals in regard to building and property here in this forum. I have some questions for you guys...

(1) This wasn't a good land to start with, it's a swampy and sloppy down the hill, maybe 20 feet to the main road. But the slop is gradually and steady. Within a month the house sank about 3 feet. I'm thinking this was because I rushed to roofing level in less than 7 weeks. I waited for about 10 months to proceed to next level because I was scared speed the building sank into land. Although the house sank another half a feet or so again but since then it has stopped. Thank God I had 14 coaches of blocks above the raft(which has since completely disappeared) on the main floor. There was a time the DPC was below the outside perimeters and I had to re-floor it again to be at the same level with the land.



Knowing this fact, do I go ahead and install marbles and tiles to cover the floors? If yes, how much area should I cover and how light do I need the tiles to be, so that it won't post any danger to the building and start sinking again?

(2) What is the best way to secure the fence from thieves and monkeys coming from the bush next from my house? My site is currently the last house on that street and the bush is next to it. My wife is scare of rats talk less of monkeys. My wife and I can't conclude if to go with electric fence or barbed wired fence. During the blocks work on the main floor, there was an incident where some 4 "thug"monkeys slapped a 9 years old girl who was sent on an errand to buy a loaf of bread, the monkeys just overpowered her and stole the bread from her.


Thank you all, I'm desperately in need of advises and ideas.

From what I know, there is urgent need you find a way to keep your entire land dry at all time. You must find way that whenever it rains, water must no find way to stay in your compound. You must come up with urgent plan to have a drainage system to get water out of your compound as quickly as possible after heavy rainfall.

I know a woman who had to abandon her house at Lekki. He problem was similar to what you described. This lady had a house in Abuja that she sold for 25 million naira in 2006. She proceeded to Lekki and bought a 6 million naira land. The concrete foundation was done 5ft high. By the time the building got to roofing level, 4ft of the foundation disappeared. The house was completed within 6 months and she and her family moved in. Whenever it rained, there is always rain water in the compound and that kept the house sinking more and more whenever it rained. It got to a point that the foundation level disappeared. They always have water in their house for days whenever it rains. They won't even attempt to pump the water out as long as the rain is still falling. When expert came to see the problem, she was told her problem was not having adequate drainage system and inability to keep her land dry caused the house to sink. The more water gets under the foundation, the more the house sank. The house sank really fast.

At the end, she was advised to breakdown the house and cut her loss. She couldn't attempt to destroy the house she spent over 12 million naira to build. She had no choice but to abandon the house.

So you must find way to keep water out of your compound at all cost.
Re: My Ikorodu Mansion; The DIY Report. by Nobody: 4:33pm On Aug 01, 2015
FastShipping:


From what I know, there is urgent need you find a way to keep your entire land dry at all time. You must find way that whenever it rains, water must no find way to stay in your compound. You must come up with urgent plan to have a drainage system to get water out of your compound as quickly as possible after heavy rainfall.

I know a woman who had to abandon her house at Lekki. He problem was similar to what you described. This lady had a house in Abuja that she sold for 25 million naira in 2006. She proceeded to Lekki and bought a 6 million naira land. The concrete foundation was done 5ft high. By the time the building got to roofing level, 4ft of the foundation disappeared. The house was completed within 6 months and she and her family moved in. Whenever it rained, there is always rain water in the compound and that kept the house sinking more and more whenever it rained. It got to a point that the foundation level disappeared. They always have water in their house for days whenever it rains. They won't even attempt to pump the water out as long as the rain is still falling. When expert came to see the problem, she was told her problem was not having adequate drainage system and inability to keep her land dry caused the house to sink. The more water gets under the foundation, the more the house sank. The house sank really fast.

At the end, she was advised to breakdown the house and cut her loss. She couldn't attempt to destroy the house she spent over 12 million naira to build. She had no choice but to abandon the house.

So you must find way to keep water out of your compound at all cost.

A sad read.

Was there anything that she could have done to prevent this from happening?

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Re: My Ikorodu Mansion; The DIY Report. by FastShipping: 4:37pm On Aug 01, 2015
EgunMogaji:


A sad read.

Was there anything that she could have done to prevent this from happening?


Yes. She should have done a good drainage system and find way to get water out of her property at all time. She should have had the house built during dry season and did everything right. She shouldn't have rushed the project.

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Re: My Ikorodu Mansion; The DIY Report. by brabus(m): 4:54pm On Aug 01, 2015
Qc1:
I know there are a lot of professionals in regard to building and property here in this forum. I have some questions for you guys...

(1) This wasn't a good land to start with, it's a swampy and sloppy down the hill, maybe 20 feet to the main road. But the slop is gradually and steady. Within a month the house sank about 3 feet. I'm thinking this was because I rushed to roofing level in less than 7 weeks. I waited for about 10 months to proceed to next level because I was scared speed the building sank into land. Although the house sank another half a feet or so again but since then it has stopped. Thank God I had 14 coaches of blocks above the raft(which has since completely disappeared) on the main floor. There was a time the DPC was below the outside perimeters and I had to re-floor it again to be at the same level with the land.

Knowing this fact, do I go ahead and install marbles and tiles to cover the floors? If yes, how much area should I cover and how light do I need the tiles to be, so that it won't post any danger to the building and start sinking again?

Thank you all, I'm desperately in need of advises and ideas.

Based on my physical assessment of your site. I knew the challenges you're up against includes slope inclination/length, weak soil and ground water condition. I'll suggest you do the following:

1. Plant moisture-absorbing vegetation in the compound.
2. Outlet your rain gutters and divert surface runoff away from the bad soil. (The portion close to the ditch)
3. Reduce runoff rate toward the house by having a v-ditch or French drain towards your neighbours fence to collect water from the slope further down into govts storm water drainage.
4. Minimize paved areas in the house
5. Do soil stabilization by excavating the weak topsoil and filling with load bearing soils. Laterite is not a good sand to sandfill in such terrain.

The bottomline is to keep water off your property.

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Re: My Ikorodu Mansion; The DIY Report. by FastShipping: 4:58pm On Aug 01, 2015
brabus:


Based on my physical assessment of your site. I knew the challenges you're up against includes slope inclination/length, weak soil and ground water condition. I'll suggest you do the following:

1. Plant moisture-absorbing vegetation in the compound.
2. Outlet your rain gutters and divert surface runoff away from the bad soil. (The portion close to the ditch)
3. Reduce runoff rate toward the house by having a v-ditch or French drain towards your neighbours fence to collect water from the slope further down into govts storm water drainage.
4. Minimize paved areas in the house
5. Do soil stabilization by excavating the weak topsoil and filling with load bearing soils. Laterite is not a good sand to sandfill in such terrain.

The bottomline is to keep water off your property.

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Re: My Ikorodu Mansion; The DIY Report. by segcymoor(m): 5:29pm On Aug 01, 2015
FastShipping:

From what I know, there is urgent need you find a way to keep your entire land dry at all time. You must find way that whenever it rains, water must no find way to stay in your compound. You must come up with urgent plan to have a drainage system to get water out of your compound as quickly as possible after heavy rainfall.
I know a woman who had to abandon her house at Lekki. He problem was similar to what you described. This lady had a house in Abuja that she sold for 25 million naira in 2006. She proceeded to Lekki and bought a 6 million naira land. The concrete foundation was done 5ft high. By the time the building got to roofing level, 4ft of the foundation disappeared. The house was completed within 6 months and she and her family moved in. Whenever it rained, there is always rain water in the compound and that kept the house sinking more and more whenever it rained. It got to a point that the foundation level disappeared. They always have water in their house for days whenever it rains. They won't even attempt to pump the water out as long as the rain is still falling. When expert came to see the problem, she was told her problem was not having adequate drainage system and inability to keep her land dry caused the house to sink. The more water gets under the foundation, the more the house sank. The house sank really fast.
At the end, she was advised to breakdown the house and cut her loss. She couldn't attempt to destroy the house she spent over 12 million naira to build. She had no choice but to abandon the house.
So you must find way to keep water out of your compound at all cost.

.. As a matter of fact, many house in lekki/ajah axis is in the process of similar experience .....sooner or later.
You see .it amazed me the way some foundation is being approach especially in this environment. Due to the nature of the terrain the so called engr will just sand fill and started building. .With disregard to what is underneath (because they can't no because of water) even if filled with load bearing soil like sharp sand. ....the fact still remains underneath may not safe!

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Re: My Ikorodu Mansion; The DIY Report. by mufutau55(m): 5:36pm On Aug 01, 2015
@Brabus
You built this house and its foundation.
If you knew all you wrote above, what steps did you take to introduce a different kind of foundation?

Hajji M.

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Re: My Ikorodu Mansion; The DIY Report. by brabus(m): 5:48pm On Aug 01, 2015
mufutau55:
@Brabus
You built this house and its foundation.
If you knew all you wrote above, what steps did yiu take to introduce a different kind of foundation?

Hajji M.

You can go through the construction thread to check proposed solutions. It's one thing to propose solutions, it's another thing to implement those solutions.

I'm sure this is not the first time I'm writing about this. I can remember when the neighbours waste water was causing issues, when the fence fell and now.

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Re: My Ikorodu Mansion; The DIY Report. by brabus(m): 5:53pm On Aug 01, 2015

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Re: My Ikorodu Mansion; The DIY Report. by Qc1(m): 6:59pm On Aug 01, 2015
mufutau55:
@Brabus
You built this house and its foundation.
If you knew all you wrote above, what steps did yiu take to introduce a different kind of foundation?

Hajji M.

Had brabus added just two coaches of blocks on the raft before DPC, I will never have no problem. I'm not an engineer so I trusted him to do his job which he failed. If I was him, I would have constructed set of concrete piles before the raft. He observed the neighborhood and the houses there before the construction, yet failed to come up with better ideas. Clients worked very hard for their money. It's not just fair when builders makes this kind of silly mistakes.

I'm just trying to find a solution at this point because finger pointing won't solved nothing.

The house have stop sinking but I'm still afraid. This is not lekki and the houses in front of me was built maybe 10 years ago and it has no problem except for the fence the owner had to do 3 times. The bungalow next to me is pretty bad though. The owner just don't care much about it.

I will continue to seek a better way to get the water out. What so funny was that it stays only on the left side of the fence only. And I've spent a lot to do my best which seems not just enough for now.
I'm waiting for the dry season to do a massive drainage which me luck!

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Re: My Ikorodu Mansion; The DIY Report. by Royal30: 7:01pm On Aug 01, 2015
brabus:


You can go through the construction thread to check proposed solutions. It's one thing to propose solutions, it's another thing to implement those solutions.

I'm sure this is not the first time I'm writing about this. I can remember when the neighbours waste water was causing issues, when the fence fell and now.
Then why didn't you implement those solutions when you knew about it earlier after your physical assessment

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Re: My Ikorodu Mansion; The DIY Report. by mufutau55(m): 7:12pm On Aug 01, 2015
Qc1:

Had brabus added just two coaches of blocks on the raft before DPC, I will never have no problem. I'm not an engineer so I trusted him to do his job which he failed. If I was him, I would have constructed set of concrete piles before the raft. He observed the neighborhood and the houses there before the construction, yet failed to come up with better ideas. Clients worked very hard for their money. It's not just fair when builders makes this kind of silly mistakes.

I'm just trying to find a solution at this point because finger pointing won't solved nothing.

Sinking house is a mind-boggling situation... I don't have money, I am not rich, but I have never taken joy in seeing anyone losing their money.
I am not trying to point any finger for you, but since the Builder was here and never introduced himself as the Builder of this house, I decided to ask him some simple questions and identified him... which I think is normal.
Did I like his response, NO. Because the solution was never implemented when introduced, knowing your reputation is on the line.

Hajji M.

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Re: My Ikorodu Mansion; The DIY Report. by FastShipping: 7:12pm On Aug 01, 2015
Qc1:


Had brabus added just two coaches of blocks on the raft before DPC, I will never have no problem. I'm not an engineer so I trusted him to do his job which he failed. If I was him, I would have constructed set of concrete piles before the raft. He observed the neighborhood and the houses there before the construction, yet failed to come up with better ideas. Clients worked very hard for their money. It's not just fair when builders makes this kind of silly mistakes.

I'm just trying to find a solution at this point because finger pointing won't solved nothing.


Solution is still 100% possible. Get ready for some cash because it won't be cheap. You are going to need to get this particular laterite that comes with a lot sand and rocks. Don't get the clay type laterite. You are going to need a lot of concrete and iron. Get a competent engineer. Let an engineer come up with a very good drainage system. Have your drainage system plan in 3D and execute the plan. Try to get this done as soon as dry season starts in Nigeria later this year.

Do everything necessary to avoid water getting close to your foundation. Your property must be kept dry for life to avoid continuous sinking of your foundation.

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Re: My Ikorodu Mansion; The DIY Report. by Qc1(m): 7:15pm On Aug 01, 2015
FastShipping:



Solution is still 100% possible. Get ready for some cash because it won't be cheap. You are going to need to get this particular laterite that comes with a lot sand and rocks. Don't get the clay type laterite. You are going to need a lot of concrete and iron. Get a competent engineer. Let an engineer come up with a very good drainage system. Have your drainage system plan in 3D and execute the plan. Try to get this done as soon as dry season starts in Nigeria later this year.

Do everything necessary to avoid water getting close to your foundation. Your property must be kept dry for life to avoid continuous sinking of your foundation.

Thank you brother, God blessed.
Re: My Ikorodu Mansion; The DIY Report. by Qc1(m): 7:18pm On Aug 01, 2015
mufutau55:


Sinking house is a mind-boggling situation... I don't have money, I am not rich, but I have never taken joy in seeing anyone losing their money.
I am not trying to point any finger for you, but since the Builder was here and never introduced himself as the Builder of this house, I decided to asking him some simple questions and identified him... which I think is normal.
Did I like his response, NO. Because the solution was never introduced knowing your reputation is on the line.

Hajji M.

Hajj, you said it all. Thank you.
Re: My Ikorodu Mansion; The DIY Report. by Qc1(m): 7:53pm On Aug 01, 2015
brabus:
You don't have to do a long search. Here is the link https://www.nairaland.com/1338637/chateau-ile-oluji-construction-journal/48#25106996


Sure! Medicine after death!
Re: My Ikorodu Mansion; The DIY Report. by brabus(m): 7:59pm On Aug 01, 2015
@Hajji, I wish I have the power to do just about anything I like in a project. Take unilateral decisions when resolving problems. But here I am, I saw the problem, I found the source of the problem, I researched and proposed a fix but it was never implemented even after pointing out the dangers of not doing so.
I knew the neighbour is not financially buoyant to do anything about the problem or maybe unconcerned. So what am I supposed to do in this case? Was any of the proposed implemented? Why?

This is not the time to point accusing fingers. This is time to fix the problem and stop the blame game.

I'm sure the OP will remember what I told him when I left the project because of low budget for the perimeter fence and the drainage before it became DIY and eventually fell down.

DIY in this type of terrain is a form of self-medication. It kills faster than the actual ailment.

We all need to listen to professional advices when we have opportunity to get one. Even get 100th opinion when in least doubt. And stop rushing projects especially in difficult terrains.

Even after doing the underpinning in January 2015, I still suggest the sandfilling of the compound before the rainy season. Has it been done? I'm not sure.

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Re: My Ikorodu Mansion; The DIY Report. by Qc1(m): 8:24pm On Aug 01, 2015
brabus:
@Hajji, I wish I have the power to do just about anything I like in a project. Take unilateral decisions when resolving problems. But here I am, I saw the problem, I found the source of the problem, I researched and proposed a fix but it was never implemented even after pointing out the dangers of not doing so.
I knew the neighbour is not financially buoyant to do anything about the problem or maybe unconcerned. So what am I supposed to do in this case? Was any of the proposed implemented? Why?

This is not the time to point accusing fingers. This is time to fix the problem and stop the blame game.

I'm sure the OP will remember what I told him when I left the project because of low budget for the perimeter fence and the drainage before it became DIY and eventually fell down.



We all need to listen to professional advices when we have opportunity to get one. Even get 100th opinion when in least doubt. And stop rushing projects especially in difficult terrains.

Even after doing the underpinning in January 2015, I still suggest the sandfilling of the compound before the rainy season. Has it been done? I'm not sure.

How dare you come out here with this lies? Don't you have a shame at all? I'm so ashamed of you that I can't even mention your name!

When and where did you ever proposed a solution to me? You called what you posted on nairaland a solution? Did I paid you through nairaland? Did I complained to you through nairaland? Was the land physically on nairaland? Did you examined the land through nairaland? Do you even know how much your negligence have cost?

Do not mistaken a kindness for stupidity. I shared the blame because I was warned my others here yet I trusted you. I've not called you out because I don't want to embarrass you. How dare you posted this nonsense about telling me any suggestions? Even if I said nothing can't you hide your shame?

May the Lord be my withness if you ever face to face tell me about this.

This fact you display this here just display your characters.

Wow!

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Re: My Ikorodu Mansion; The DIY Report. by enrilove12: 8:27pm On Aug 01, 2015
Qc1:
I know there are a lot of professionals in regard to building and property here in this forum. I have some questions for you guys...

(1) This wasn't a good land to start with, it's a swampy and sloppy down the hill, maybe 20 feet to the main road. But the slop is gradually and steady. Within a month the house sank about 3 feet. I'm thinking this was because I rushed to roofing level in less than 7 weeks. I waited for about 10 months to proceed to next level because I was scared speed the building sank into land. Although the house sank another half a feet or so again but since then it has stopped. Thank God I had 14 coaches of blocks above the raft(which has since completely disappeared) on the main floor. There was a time the DPC was below the outside perimeters and I had to re-floor it again to be at the same level with the land.

Knowing this fact, do I go ahead and install marbles and tiles to cover the floors? If yes, how much area should I cover and how light do I need the tiles to be, so that it won't post any danger to the building and start sinking again?

(2) What is the best way to secure the fence from thieves and monkeys coming from the bush next from my house? My site is currently the last house on that street and the bush is next to it. My wife is scare of rats talk less of monkeys. My wife and I can't conclude if to go with electric fence or barbed wired fence. During the blocks work on the main floor, there was an incident where some 4 "thug"monkeys slapped a 9 years old girl who was sent on an errand to buy a loaf of bread, the monkeys just overpowered her and stole the bread from her.


Thank you all, I'm desperately in need of advises and ideas.

There is one good structural Engr living close to your site at Ikorodu there...he is handlling my project as well in a worst terrain than yours. When it rains heavily., My compound never had any water on it even while its raining till date for abt 3years now...its flows out ..will give you his details on request but be ready to do as he tells you because he doesn't compromise on quality..

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