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Re: Why Are Christians Not United? by Fabrepass(m): 10:02am On Aug 23, 2015
Christianity is a scam. it will soon crumble.
Re: Why Are Christians Not United? by bashsani(m): 10:03am On Aug 23, 2015
bushdoc9919:


No offense to my Muslim fellow citizens...but Islam does have its sects...the two main ones being Shia and Sunni....and a minor sect...the Sufis. There are also a host of other minor sects....and some heretical sects that are not Islam...but based on Islam. And yes...there are differences (Sunnis and Shias pray slightly differently for example).
it's true there exist difference but the main pillars among the muslims is all the same e.g all muslims blv in a single God and a single prophet in five daily prayers,same numbers of prayers same time, same direction,blv in zakka(compulsory charity carried out yearly which is 1/40 of accrued wealth)to the poor,blv in pilgrimage,same time, SAME.HOUSEof God,blv in predestination. No matter the differences. These are core values of islam and u will neva find diversities there. So matter how united, thr must b differences but not in the core doctrine. We still pray in the mosque

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Re: Why Are Christians Not United? by Nobody: 10:04am On Aug 23, 2015
java4849:
This is because bible it self have different versions. So what do you expect from the follower? grin cheesy wink wink

The reason for the versions is the pesky fact that the English language(and indeed other languages) is not a static language.

For example...John 3 vs 16 from a 14th century bible....

For God louede so the world that he ȝaf his oon bigetun sone, that ech man that beliueth in him perische not, but haue euerlastynge lijf.

Can you read that?
Re: Why Are Christians Not United? by muhamadnur: 10:04am On Aug 23, 2015
Thats why we muslims say, the bible of now adays is not the one that was given to isa jesus [peace be upon him] it was change by people that came later, bcoz if the bible is just as it is as god gave isa jesus [pbuh] there will be nothing christianity we will all be muslims. Just look at the Quran the misinterprated book ever. My advice is go and do research.

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Re: Why Are Christians Not United? by Nobody: 10:04am On Aug 23, 2015
bashsani:
it's true there exist difference but the main pillars among the muslims is all the same e.g all muslims blv in a single God and a single prophet in five daily prayers,same numbers of prayers same time, same direction,blv in zakka(compulsory charity carried out yearly which is 1/40 of accrued wealth)to the poor,blv in pilgrimage,same time, SAME.HOUSEof God,blv in predestination. No matter the differences. These are core values of islam and u will neva find diversities there. So matter how united, thr must b differences but not in the core doctrine. We still pray in the mosque

True...and thanks.

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Re: Why Are Christians Not United? by successinlife: 10:05am On Aug 23, 2015
java4849:
This is because bible it self have different versions. So what do you expect from the follower? grin cheesy wink wink

What version? quote it.What people like you termed version is when you hear old and new testaments,which is very simple to understand,old testament explains life and how people worship God before Jesus was born,New testament give account of Jesus life on earth and people after him.Now if you want more explanation,you may hear King James version or Revised standard version,these speaks of the language it is written with,old english translation and modern english translation with absolute same meaning.So where do you see different version.Don't write just b
because you want to write,do enough research because half knowledge is more dangerous than having no knowledge. Salam.
Re: Why Are Christians Not United? by experimentist: 10:05am On Aug 23, 2015
EgusiSoup:
Happy Sunday to y'all!

This question has always been popping in my mind for long. Whenever I visit churches around Nigeria I'm forced to wonder if this was what our Lord Jesus Christ had commanded us to go into the world to do.

Cover your hair, some say do not cover your hair! Women should wear trousers to church, some say come as you are. Some bow down to images and pray in ways different from others. The list goes on and on.

Our GOD is not a God of confusion!

Whats your take?

#EgusiSoup

because Christianity is not the way forward.. simple

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Re: Why Are Christians Not United? by bilal4riid(m): 10:05am On Aug 23, 2015
Reyginus:
Learn about Islam and you'd know it's the same. Learn. That's Religion for you.
Muslims don't have religious division cos Qur'an is One(the concept of God is same etc), Bt there may be social difference
Re: Why Are Christians Not United? by menesheh(m): 10:06am On Aug 23, 2015
jony247:

Where is your brain?


Why the question?
Re: Why Are Christians Not United? by freecocoa(f): 10:07am On Aug 23, 2015
Omotayor123:

You are so on point!
The question is why
Because the religion is man made, and you know how humans are.

How do you expect a bunch of old men on drugs to all agree on the same thing?cheesy

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Re: Why Are Christians Not United? by puzzler: 10:08am On Aug 23, 2015
@ OP, dis ur moniker "EGUISI SOUP" is making me hungry now.. and dis woman no con dey house sef and mama amaka no dey open shop on sundays..

missKiffy:
I agree with you op, another one is look at muslims for instance, they can enter any mosque at anywhere to pray, but we Christians even if we move out of town we would still be looking for our very own "brand" of church to worship, per adventure they don't find their church in the new town, some will decide to stay at home, rather than go to another church, one christian would say I can never attend that church, another would say I would rather sit at home than attend that church and we all call ourselves Christians. Theres obviously division among us

Na only ORIGINAL dey get PHOTOCOPY na, hence, d reason for d plenty plenty denominations.
Re: Why Are Christians Not United? by Nobody: 10:09am On Aug 23, 2015
Because christians are HYPOCRITES
Re: Why Are Christians Not United? by adenine02: 10:09am On Aug 23, 2015
Reyginus:
I hope this helps you. If it is argument we can go further to understand.

Sunni
Shia
Wahhabism
Alawites
Sufi
Kharijites
Zikris
Alhamaddia
Bahai
Izala in Naija

Yeah u r rite muslims av sect

Buh

Every muslim call God Allah

Every muslim read arabic quran

Evey muslim face mecca wen dy want to pray

Every muslim follow Muhammad

Every muslim pray 5 times same time every day ( the partern is never diffrt)

Every muslim fast 9 month of d islamic calender i.e Ramadan

Every muslim dat can afford it visit mecca

Ever muslim pay zakkat i.e compulsory charity

Dis r d basis of islam

So does d sect count?

Or is it like dis in christianity
Re: Why Are Christians Not United? by Nobody: 10:09am On Aug 23, 2015
grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
bushdoc9919:


Too much Mourinhioquine.
Re: Why Are Christians Not United? by EbuGeneral(m): 10:10am On Aug 23, 2015
The church is not united because some of our brothers from the Southwest and south east part of the zoo saw church as business. christianity is scam. quote me and die now.
Re: Why Are Christians Not United? by successinlife: 10:10am On Aug 23, 2015
muhamadnur:
Thats why we muslims say, the bible of now adays is not the one that was given to isa jesus [peace be upon him] it was change by people that came later, bcoz if the bible is just as it is as god gave isa jesus [pbuh] there will be nothing christianity we will all be muslims. Just look at the Quran the misinterprated book ever. My advice is go and do research.

Oga you shooting yourself in the foot.So Bible was given to Isa,haba, so what happened to the prophets before ISA? why are you people saying what you don't know?If you have no good explanation don't type and confuse people the more.You are biased with your assumptions.
Re: Why Are Christians Not United? by fejikudz(m): 10:11am On Aug 23, 2015
EgusiSoup:
Happy Sunday to y'all!

This question has always been popping in my mind for long. Whenever I visit churches around Nigeria I'm forced to wonder if this was what our Lord Jesus Christ had commanded us to go into the world to do.

Cover your hair, some say do not cover your hair! Women should wear trousers to church, some say come as you are. Some bow down to images and pray in ways different from others. The list goes on and on.

Our GOD is not a God of confusion!

Whats your take?

#EgusiSoup

Because some Christians are only interested in converting a christian from church A to church B.
Re: Why Are Christians Not United? by ZUBY77(m): 10:11am On Aug 23, 2015
menesheh:
That's what happens when a cook-up story is not from one source, merging ancient Jewish culture and ancient Roman one. The bible is a collections of books containing myths of different cultures and backgrounds which was written and rewritten by anonymous authors with no original. How do you expect people relying on such book to not get confused and disunited.

Clever response.
Blacks hardly know the origin of their problems..
And the moment you don't know where the rain started beating you, you won't know where it stopped..

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Re: Why Are Christians Not United? by ChynoBEATS: 10:13am On Aug 23, 2015
Viktor1983:
Who I go ask?
Anyone notice the Catholic hierarchy's stance towards the oritsejafor led CAN?

Let's laugh in 3D!!


CAN should be held responsible

Oritsejafor should resign , its better we have the likes of pastor adeboye or pastor kumuyi as CAN president

CAN dint provide a Christian Constitution unlike the MusliMs who have sharia in the Country's constitution


CAN has failed US ,oristejafor has Failed us

We will never be united until CAN starts its Own Parliament where they decide the In's and out's of the CHURCH of NIGERIA ,the christian politicians are supposed to be an emissary of the Church instead they're an Emissary of the thier GOD fathers who disguise themselves as GOD fearing christians ...

The CHURCH of Nigeria Doesnt have an HEAD
WE need CHANGE in the System

WE need to adopt a Constitution for the CHURCH
Christ will never be proud of the CHURCH neglecting the fact that the RELEGION is A CONTRY in the SIGHT of GOD
Re: Why Are Christians Not United? by successinlife: 10:13am On Aug 23, 2015
adenine02:


Yeah u r rite muslims av sect

Buh

Every muslim call God Allah

Every muslim read arabic quran

Evey muslim face mecca wen dy want to pray

Every muslim follow Muhammad

Every muslim pray 5 times same time every day ( the partern is never diffrt)

Every muslim fast 9 month of d islamic calender i.e Ramadan

Every muslim dat can afford it visit mecca

Ever muslim pay zakkat i.e compulsory charity

Dis r d basis of islam

So does d sect count?

Or is it like dis in christianity

Why did you remove every muslim is a terrorist? go and get a life,being a muslim doesn't guarantee holiness,obedient to almighty God is holiness.
Re: Why Are Christians Not United? by Nobody: 10:15am On Aug 23, 2015
adenine02:


Yeah u r rite muslims av sect

Buh

Every muslim call God Allah

Every muslim read arabic quran

Evey muslim face mecca wen dy want to pray

Every muslim follow Muhammad

Every muslim pray 5 times same time every day ( the partern is never diffrt)

Every muslim fast 9 month of d islamic calender i.e Ramadan

Every muslim dat can afford it visit mecca

Ever muslim pay zakkat i.e compulsory charity

Dis r d basis of islam

So does d sect count?

Or is it like dis in christianity
I don't think you are getting the point.

The sects follow the Quran. Or claim to. The Christian s sects follow the Bible. Or claim to. And both have wrongdoers who do not follow the holy book.
Re: Why Are Christians Not United? by olalat(m): 10:15am On Aug 23, 2015
Stop confusg urself. Seek knowledge. The pillars of islam is universal, irrespective of d sects. They all worship d same way. What u are pointg to are sects who worship d same way. There is doctorine unity in islam. Stop misleadg people.
bushdoc9919:


No offense to my Muslim fellow citizens...but Islam does have its sects...the two main ones being Shia and Sunni....and a minor sect...the Sufis. There are also a host of other minor sects....and some heretical sects that are not Islam...but based on Islam. And yes...there are differences (Sunnis and Shias pray slightly differently for example).
Re: Why Are Christians Not United? by Nobody: 10:17am On Aug 23, 2015
EVILFOREST:
Because modern day CHURCHES are now PETROL STATIONS.

IF U can't meet up, you Break up and start yours

MOST are looking for CUSTOMERS and not SOULS.

MOST have DILUTED the word of GOD serially to the extent that pastors now mention PHUCK and SEXX in churches.

Because CHRISTAINITY now has so much FREEDOM as compared to before.

Because the THING dividing CHRISTAINS are much.

Because we have allowed LADIES partake greatly in church activities, such that there is so much LAXITY.
Just visit a nearby church and observe dress code.

Remember that when they took the 1ST LEAD in the bible to chop the FRUIT, the 1ST MAJOR SIN was estabilished.

Because PEOPLE now wait for god of men( not MEN of GOD) to study the BIBLE for them and deliver to them DILUTED CHRISTAINITY.

We no longer study, the BIBLE.

MOST CHURCHES who HIT the nail one the HEAD are mostly AVOIDED out rightly, because the TRUTH IS BITTER.

Above all, Just know that you can be better than your pastors, Because this JESUS that came is for EVERYONE

You are absolutely correct.
Re: Why Are Christians Not United? by Nobody: 10:17am On Aug 23, 2015
bilal4riid:

Muslims don't have religious division cos Qur'an is One(the concept of God is same etc), Bt there may be social difference
Maybe you will have to ask a Muslim.

What do you call suicide bombers who believe they are working for Allah? The same concept of God?
Re: Why Are Christians Not United? by bashsani(m): 10:19am On Aug 23, 2015
successinlife:


Oga you shooting yourself in the foot.So Bible was given to Isa,haba, so what happened to the prophets before ISA? why are you people saying what you don't know?If you have no good explanation don't type and confuse people the more.You are biased with your assumptions.
by isa he means Jesus that the Arabic name
Re: Why Are Christians Not United? by fr3do(m): 10:19am On Aug 23, 2015
nedu213:
Dats y abokis re ruling us. They have one voice.

attaching religion to politics is very unwise.
Re: Why Are Christians Not United? by SamConquer(m): 10:20am On Aug 23, 2015
EVILFOREST:
Because modern day CHURCHES are now PETROL STATIONS.

IF U can't meet up, you Break up and start yours

MOST are looking for CUSTOMERS and not SOULS.

MOST have DILUTED the word of GOD serially to the extent that pastors now mention PHUCK and SEXX in churches.

Because CHRISTAINITY now has so much FREEDOM as compared to before.

Because the THING dividing CHRISTAINS are much.

Because we have allowed LADIES partake greatly in church activities, such that there is so much LAXITY.
Just visit a nearby church and observe dress code.

Remember that when they took the 1ST LEAD in the bible to chop the FRUIT, the 1ST MAJOR SIN was estabilished.

Because PEOPLE now wait for god of men( not MEN of GOD) to study the BIBLE for them and deliver to them DILUTED CHRISTAINITY.

We no longer study, the BIBLE.

MOST CHURCHES who HIT the nail one the HEAD are mostly AVOIDED out rightly, because the TRUTH IS BITTER.

Above all, Just know that you can be better than your pastors, Because this JESUS that came is for EVERYONE
#Standing Ovation for this Dude
Re: Why Are Christians Not United? by Armaggedon: 10:22am On Aug 23, 2015
bushdoc9919:


No offense to my Muslim fellow citizens...but Islam does have its sects...the two main ones being Shia and Sunni....and a minor sect...the Sufis. There are also a host of other minor sects....and some heretical sects that are not Islam...but based on Islam. And yes...there are differences (Sunnis and Shias pray slightly differently for example).
one sect celebrate prophet muhammed's birthday while the other doesn't.
Re: Why Are Christians Not United? by Asuokaa: 10:22am On Aug 23, 2015
Reyginus:
The Sunday Religion Front page topics are usually different from the Fridays. I don't really know why. Seun surely know.

Topics creating unhealthy relationships. The why can never correct if it is not accompanied by the 'how' to correct. And what we have here in large numbers is usually focusing on the problem and not the solutions.

Why not promote a topic like: How can Christian unity be established among churches? Not necessarily verbatim but in the message they convey. Or can we promote the Religion by focusing on the problem?



That's because Seun is an atheist... If u discover on NL most post that make frontpage r Christian news(so as to rubbish Christ, I pity him for this one) Tribalism, infact the Mr seun hates Nigeria as a whole, can u imagine promoting things that would bring the country down we r having tribal tensions bcause Of Nairaland
Re: Why Are Christians Not United? by Fabrepass(m): 10:22am On Aug 23, 2015
successinlife:


Let me answer this question with simplicity and total understanding.Your caption is wrong to start with. ''Why are xtians not united'' ,what you you intend to say?Unity and doctrine are not the same,if you are talking of unity then you have to bring out strife and infighting and to greater extend the ideology to be better than the other. Upon all you observed none has or is fighting the other or claiming superior.Now in a layman's explanation.Send two people to go and cover a wedding ceremony or major event,no mater how close their thinking faculty is,both will not come out with similar news of how the event unfolded except one copied the other verbatim.It is not possible for two groups of a place of worship follow same principle or doctrine,what i think is important is the morality and faithfulness in real worshiping what they believed the right way.No religion is in unisome in terms of way of worship,the basics is what all try to uphole.For the bible,i think the ten commandment sums up the basics to follow,why for islam it is the 5 pillars.Inconclusion,i see no disunity as you try to point out. Shalom

guy your comment is bereft of truth or substance. Christians are not united. They claim to worship only one God but the religion is riddled with thousands of contradictory and conflicting denominations and doctrines. Remember that all the denomination claim to receive their messages from Jesus and his sky father.
Jehovah's witnesses teach that there is no place called hell fire and that only 144000 people will go to heaven which contradicts the teaching of other sects.

Even the date of birth of Jesus is still a very big conflict.

Some christian sects do not allow people to marry outside their church.

it is either the christians are confused or they are worshiping a god of conflict and confusion.

Jesus said in luke 12 : 51-53 that he did not come to bring peace but discord and division among people. He even expected people to break off natural family bonds for the sake of blind faith. How can christians be united when they subscribe to a bastard prince of division like Jesus??
Re: Why Are Christians Not United? by olalat(m): 10:23am On Aug 23, 2015
There were many prophets but only 4 among them were given books. David, moses, jesus nd muhammed(peace be upon them).
successinlife:


Oga you shooting yourself in the foot.So Bible was given to Isa,haba, so what happened to the prophets before ISA? why are you people saying what you don't know?If you have no good explanation don't type and confuse people the more.You are biased with your assumptions.
Re: Why Are Christians Not United? by successinlife: 10:23am On Aug 23, 2015
bashsani:
by isa he means Jesus that the Arabic name

Jesus is not the person that brought bible sir,this is what i am telling you.Learn and don't write blindly.

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