edwife:


I really don't see what seems to be your problem? Who is talking about family section?Is NL comprised only of family section females?

When you talk about chauvinists who are you addressing?Do you call names?

I have stated my opinion and you should state yours and not bother about what i am writing here because i don't bother about what other posters write.I came back here to answer my friend.

Timbuktou:


Your idiocy is incurable. What was the thrust of my argument? Did the article cover it or not? Whether a man needs a woman more or not isn't my argument now, is it? No wonder you're enthralled by a lab janitor. You have no critical thinking ability

Timbuktou:
I don't mind the epistle. Not that I read it all, anyway; but I get the gist. And my response is, were all men to disappear from the earth leaving you women behind, that would signal the end of the human species. You would die off slowly because you women could not cope with the demands of sustaining the species that nature has assigned to men; adventure, invention, innovation, etc. You would eat yourselves up in no time

The only other way to correct for the absence of men would be to evolve another sex that would be high in testoterone and have the general male mannerisms and nature.

Of course, I'm assuming all male foetuses will be done away with!!!

Timbuktou:
Stillfire, I don't mind the epistle. Not that ai read it all, anyway; but I get the gist. And my response is, were all men to disappear from the earth leaving you women behind, that would signal the end of the human species. You would die off slowly because you women could not cope with the demands of sustaining the species that nature has assigned to men; adventure, invention, innovation, etc. You would eat yourselves up in no time

The only other way to correct for the absence of men would be to evolve another sex that would be high in testoterone and have the general male mannerisms and nature.

innervoice:

Children develop better when they have a mother AND a father.

crackhaus:

No shiit, they do?

innervoice:
Stillfire,

children develop better when they have a mother AND a father.

innervoice:


Not if the father is useless.

MarvellousGod:
Mizmycoli , you have said it all!!

Stillfire:


Of course I agree, innervoice. My first comment on the thread recognized the importance of marriage and how kids are better off in the institution.
But on the grand scheme of things, it is very questionable who needs who more between a man and a woman.

If you look at the way society is going and how easily you can get rid of fathers from the equation, I do not think as a man I would be worried about if a woman marries or not, but rather how to prevent my gender from extinction.

crackhaus:

1.) Who is a useless father, and what does that say about the woman who married and got pregnant for him?

2.) What happens when the mother is useless?

MarvellousGod:
Yeah, marriage is very vital but imposing it on people would be detrimental. . Naturally, everyone should desire marriage but for some reason esp not finding the right one, many people remain single for life...
I know many women who didn't get married, would you now force a man down their throat?
Can you force someone to settle down if he/she doesn't find the right one?

I never said marriage isn't a priority, I said it's part of life and not life itself because I know having a happy family has always been one of my priorities. There are also other things to life, career et al.

For me, I actually think women need men as much as men need women. . A high percentage(if not all) of people who say they don't need the opposite sex is as a result of bad experience(s) they witnessed/had in the past with the opposite sex or maybe they haven't met the right person just yet...
Everyone needs care, needs that one person that listens and attends to your needs, that one person that strives to make you happy always. ...

Women are always quick to defend on how they don't need a man because of the way men esp in Africa make it seem like marriage is some sort of favour for the women. Also, the master-slave marriages we have in Africa. ..
Not like the women don't desire marriage/raising a family, some factors discourage them..

I also hate the way people ridicule single ladies. .I really do hate it.. is it her fault she hasn't found a worthy person yet? Then, Without marriage someone is worthless? ?

innervoice:


Only those with a fvcked up self-esteem are concerned with such questions. The rest know their worth and do not need neediness to feel better.

But if you were insecure and needy, you would. Misery seeks company.

And if I were not married, I would tame the tigress in you.
Men like Timbumumu need the intimidated ones. Intimidation is his mission on NL.

All of my bachelor's life I have been bored with needy, boring, weak females who were no challenge at all and whose life revolved around getting married. Where have you been?

innervoice:


You spend most of your free time on NL claiming how women need and desire marriage more than men. Even here on this thread you have been making fun of the original post and women who agreed with the OP, shouting how the woman is deceiving herself. And now you provide an article that states howMEN ARE USELESS WITHOUT WOMEN?

You are a joke!

And you want to teach me about critical thinking? You who accepts a highly questionable article because it suits your delusions?

innervoice:

Only those with a fvcked up self-esteem are concerned with such questions. The rest know their worth and do not need neediness to feel better.

crackhaus:

Baba, you don disappoint me... I was expecting a serious rebuttal to that infantile psycho-babble she put up there.
Or maybe you didn't read it all..

Let me break it down for you bro, this is the summary of that junk:
1.) Women don't need men for reproduction because if a woman wants a baby, all she needs is some frozen sperm.
Question:
Where does this frozen sperm come from? Whales?

Answer:
Yes, self-impregnating women only need frozen sperm that come from whales to conceive, ergo, men are really not needed at all in the process of reproduction.

2.) Men only contribute some very odd tiny cells during reproduction, these cells did not merge with the egg or add any cell membranes or nutrients — just an infinitesimally small packet of DNA, less than one millionth of the entire mass.
Question:
But Basic biology taught in junior school all the way up to research carried out by biological scientists and anatomists of global repute have discovered that in human reproduction, each human cell contains 46 chromosomes, 23 pairs, except gamete cells, which only contain 23 chromosomes.
A child will have 23 chromosomes which carry DNA sequences from each parent which are genetically recombined into 23 pairs.
Are they wrong?

Answer:
Yes, they are all totally wrong...they don't know what they are saying, only I do.
Sperm cells only contribute an infinitesimally small packet of DNA, every other thing needed for fertilization and ultimately reproduction comes from the egg.

innervoice:


I don't think I need to tell you who a useless father is. It say a lot about such a woman, for example, that she was so intimidated that she decided that it was better to marry a useless man instead of not marrying at all BECAUSE she has been taught that her value and the survival of the species depend on her marriage.


If a mother is useless, the kids will most likely end up being miserable and a menace to society.

innervoice:

[s]I don't think I need to tell you who a useless father is. It say a lot about such a woman, for example, that she was so intimidated that she decided that it was better to marry a useless man instead of not marrying at all BECAUSE she has been taught that her value and the survival of the species depend on her marriage.





If a mother is useless, the kids will most likely end up being miserable and a menace to society.[/s]

Timbuktou:


I answered that way to bring the argument from fantasy back to living reality. As you can see, I refused to shift ground and have saved myself from going all unnecessarily scientific. I didn't even read it all. It's all within the sphere of fantasy that these women want us to live by.

So, my answer is: women without men, are useless. Full stop. Anybody that needs formal science to understand this is tobe pitied. .

Hope you get my drift now?

Timbuktou:


I answered that way to bring the argument from fantasy back to living reality. As you can see, I refused to shift ground and have saved myself from going all unnecessarily scientific. I didn't even read it all. It's all within the sphere of fantasy that these women want us to live by.

So, my answer is: women without men, are useless. Full stop. Anybody that needs formal science to understand this is tobe pitied. .

Hope you get my drift now?

Stillfire:


The sustenance of the human race existed long before the advent of skyscrapers, and continue it shall even by the extinction of men. Humans have the natural ability to adapt to changing environment. As default women are humans too. So we wont miss ya! Besides without men, there would be/have been no restrictions to the female existence and females would not have to suppress their intelligence so as to kiss male egos.

Stillfire:


Lmao, na true...

crackhaus:

Ahaa finally, someone else who doesn't have a stick up his/her azz is getting it.

My issue with women who type long articles trying too hard to prove how happy they are and can be without men, is that they are actually fighting themselves and disguising it.
Who cares if you don't need a man, or which gender needs the other more?

Have you not noticed that it's almost always women writing long articles and academic projects about how they don't need men and marriage to be happy, but NEVER men?

A man will never try to justify his single status by writing articles in the name of self-love and trying to come off as not needing a woman in his life - in fact, most will brag about how they want two or even more women in their life at the same time minus the baggage...I know I do

That my friend, is the hypocrisy of it all...

Timbuktou:


You are an intellectual midget who goes about arguing with himself raising up strawmen like viagra. Here on this thread, I have made fun of people who say marriage isn't all that but have married before age 22, and also those who say they don't need men but have got pregnant outside wedlock in their 30s in a bid to trap the men they love and claimed they didn't need. Innervoice, you are an unfortunate fellow and I cannot help you if you don't want to be helped. Take your imbecility and go play with people on your level

Whether I think women need men more or not is not the purpose of this thread. If you want to argue with me on my ideas and ideals find a more opportune moment or open a thread. Don't go about being a nuisance and contributing nothing to the issues on ground.

A highly questionable article you say? You are a fool. How about you actually research my claims and prove them false. Are you now to be regarded as an authority on marriage trends, gay? Google is your friend, you miserable dint. Come at me with real research findings not your cuckolded opinion, you unfortunate lab rat.

innervoice:


Says the man mumu who spends all of his free time on NL fighting women.

Timbuktou:


the so-called science you're recoursing to will suggest otherwise . I know you don't like masculine men, it's ok, but it's not based in reality.

Men have always led the way in the pre-skyscraper days and will continue to do so till our species goes extinct. In those days of forceful dominance by men, what stopped women from killing off all the men in their sleep and taking over the world. Or if they needed some form of maleness, why not enslave them and have them out only as needed? Were those women too timid to envision a world without men, or were they too stewpid to control the male population? Afterall, the midwives must have been exclusively women, they could have killed every 9 of 10 male children and presented fake data on natural infant mortality.

The truth is women are useless without men in the world. Look at finland and their neighbours that boast more equal gender statistics than the rest of the world. Their women are content with being hairdressers and salon owners and there is no gender there o. Nature has a way of evening bvllshit out in the long run. The men in Finland are still the ones doing the dirty, tedious work. Finnish men are slaves.

crackhaus:

Ahaa finally, someone else who doesn't have a stick up his/her azz seems to be getting it.

My issue with women who type long articles trying too hard to prove how happy they are and can be without men, is that they are actually fighting themselves and disguising it.
Who cares if you don't need a man, or which gender needs the other more?

Have you not noticed that it's almost always women writing long articles and academic projects about how they don't need men and marriage to be happy, but NEVER men?

A man will never try to justify his single status by writing articles in the name of self-love trying hard to come off and convince people how he doesn't need a woman in his life to be happy - in fact, most will brag about how they want two or even more women in their life at the same time (minus the baggage) ...I know I do

That my friend, is the hypocrisy of it all...

Timbuktou:


I'd rather be fighting men? Isn't that a bit sexist, you brain-dead chimp?

crackhaus:

Summarrily, a child needs both mother and father for proper development...
A useless father is detrimental to his/her upbringing, a useless mother is also detrimental to his/her upbringing.

Thank you for your time.

Stillfire:


Apparently women are doing all these now without resorting to violence or even going to war.
Men are currently being enslaved as ordinary spe.rm donors who still have to pay for child support.
There is now a support group for these slaves called 'MGTOW' - men going their own way...Many of you would eventually join it after intelligent women like myself who have studied this inequality unravels this age long misnomer in society.
If we were stu.pid before, we are no more stu.pid. That is why Feminism is here to stay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Finnish men have created a better society than your great grandfathers can ever dream of.
What is to show for African men's 'un-emasculatedness'? One would expect that since African men are not a slaves, pose to be the man of the house, olowo ori of all the women in Africa, your society would be better, meanwhile Africa is the laughing stock of the world! I do not get it?

Timbuktou:


Of course, you're at liberty to believe what you want, but it did achieve that effect didn't it?

However, you're free to take up Crackhaus's counter-argument to yours if you find it misrepresentative of your point of view. He seems more inclined