hahn:


How did the worship of johnydon22 even come into the discussion? At that point, they have made it obvious that they don't really understand our POV and are content with being simpletons.

KingEbukasBlog:


Yeah ... And he hasn't replied you at least mine replies me much faster than the speed of light

Plus mine has no limitations and yours has - your god is indeed a small one

menesheh:


We are just having fun man.

Is just jokes.

Anybody that takes it personal gat himself to blame.


Johnydon22 may or may not be a god until proven that he is.

hahn:


I am not very fond of their kind of arguments which always seems to be laden with insults. They are always on the defensive and their contributions are mainly to win what they perceive as an argument instead of subjecting their beliefs to scrutiny. And I am beginning to feel more and more ridiculous arguing over something that doesn't exist, over the internet.

How did the worship of johnydon22 even come into the discussion? At that point, they have made it obvious that they don't really understand our POV and are content with being simpletons.

KingEbukasBlog:


You dont get the point of this whole thing , better still you are ignorant of it . The complexity of the human brain which gives it the ability to be "irreversibly indoctrinated " is a certain but overlooked evidence of a designer

Dumb and dumber to - cool movie though

Fabrepass:
the christian god is a mere tribal deity who was often jealous. he never created anything. everything about christianity sound so silly.

frank317:


Thank you.

The most difficult person to argue with is a deluded person who knows he is deluded and tells you he will continue to be deluded no matter what.

I easily get frustrated when someone purposely fails to think. How does calling Johnny a god make anything meaningful? How does it drive a point.

Shouldn't reasonable adults know that the fact that you have to defend a supposedly existent being day and night signifies his non existent? How long shall we continue like this. And when you try to make him see reason he brings in absurdities and starts asking abstract questions and making unreasonable statements.

They say a supposedly intelligent and powerful G‭‬od created the multi universe and its vastness and every amazing thing. Yet they redicle this special being by likening him to human. He acts like a child when it comes to human issues. I mean, ain't humans just like an invisible dust among his numerous wonderful creations? But with humans he act like a child, getting angry at our desire to play football, have sex or draw a tatoo. He makes silly mistakes and weeps at how the devil (another insignificant creation) is messing up his dearly loved ones.

He needs loves and worship like a needy human king and allow humans wonder if he is real.

Its tiring when people refuse to think. I really don't know if there is a creator... But please my small brain does not need any magic or some crazy spirit to know that a certain Jewish imaginery deity is not this creator.
Its not even possible.

If there is really a love desirous creator like Yahweh, shouldnt all his creations know? Why then the argument?

menesheh:



Show me where he replied you.


The only reply you presumably feel you get is only inside your brain

KingEbukasBlog:



The complexity of the human brain which gives it the ability to be "irreversibly indoctrinated " is a certain but overlooked evidence of a designer

KingEbukasBlog:


A brain that arose from nowhere without any purpose from the onset . You guys are killing it with utter foolishness

KingEbukasBlog:


@ bold - Isn't it plain stu.pid that we say [b]the immense complexity of the universe is one of the numerous evidences of the existence of an almighty creator [/b]and that's exactly one of your claims that God is too small .

Yabaleft is certainly calling .

KingEbukasBlog:


@ bold - Isn't it plain stu.pid that we say the immense complexity of the universe is one of the numerous evidences of the existence of an almighty creator and that's exactly one of your claims that God is too small .

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Oh this childish argument again? i thought i have taught you how this argument doesn't in any way work for you..

The universe is Complex therefore according to you requires a creator, this creator must be super-complex in order to create something as complex as the universe.

Now you think the super-complex creator just existed on its own but the universe that is less complex must require a creator..?

If complexity connotes design then the complexity of the creator means it must have been designed and created by another super-complex creator that must also have been created by another.

This argument based on your assumptive constructs can never go well for you...

Hahahahahaha wonder when you will learn how flimsy your argument always are...

johnydon22:
Oh this childish argument again? i thought i have taught you how this argument doesn't in any way work for you..

The universe is Complex therefore according to you requires a creator, this creator must be super-complex in order to create something as complex as the universe.

Now you think the super-complex creator just existed on its own but the universe that is less complex must require a creator..?

If complexity connotes design then the complexity of the creator means it must have been designed and created by another super-complex creator that must also have been created by another.

This argument based on your assumptive constructs can never go well for you...

Hahahahahaha wonder when you will learn how flimsy your argument always are...

menesheh:



"God doesn't need a creator because he is eternal"

Where'd you hear that?

"The Bible!"

You mean that book with the talking animals in it?


Michael S.

johnydon22:

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But they are banking on what illitrate ancient men who never knew we had other planers wrote... Can you imagine such blatant show of abject idiocy...

johnydon22:

That's why sometimes i don't engage kids...

frank317:


Thank you.

The most difficult person to argue with is a deluded person who knows he is deluded and tells you he will continue to be deluded no matter what.

I easily get frustrated when someone purposely fails to think. How does calling Johnny a god make anything meaningful? How does it drive a point.

Shouldn't reasonable adults know that the fact that you have to defend a supposedly existent being day and night signifies his non existent? How long shall we continue like this. And when you try to make him see reason he brings in absurdities and starts asking abstract questions and making unreasonable statements.

They say a supposedly intelligent and powerful G‭‬od created the multi universe and its vastness and every amazing thing. Yet they redicle this special being by likening him to human. He acts like a child when it comes to human issues. I mean, ain't humans just like an invisible dust among his numerous wonderful creations? But with humans he act like a child, getting angry at our desire to play football, have sex or draw a tatoo. He makes silly mistakes and weeps at how the devil (another insignificant creation) is messing up his dearly loved ones.

He needs loves and worship like a needy human king and allow humans wonder if he is real.

Its tiring when people refuse to think. I really don't know if there is a creator... But please my small brain does not need any magic or some crazy spirit to know that a certain Jewish imaginery deity is not this creator.
Its not even possible.

If there is really a love desirous creator like Yahweh, shouldnt all his creations know? Why then the argument?

johnydon22:
You can imagine. . .Something that supposedly is super-complex doesn't need a creator.

But the universe is complex, ooh must need a creator. . .the funny part of this is this guys cannot even identify how the universe works neither do they know the physics and mathematics in the quantum field
.
But they are banking on what illitrate ancient men who never knew we had other planers wrote... Can you imagine such blatant show of abject idiocy...

That's why sometimes i don't engage kids...

frank317:


Its tiring and worrisome. I really don't understand what's going on. How can someone argue strongly for ideas that obviously stem from assumptions?

The world is complex therefore it must have a creator. And this assumption suddenly becomes their reality to the extent they see anyone who does not agree with this assumption turned reality as unwise.

This assumption becomes so real that they starts percieving this being, they start talking to him and believing they are in a relationship. And they tell that to feel him, u must also assume he exist.

Yet we are taking about a supposedly intelligent and powerful being. How is it possible? How can this being beg to be believed. How can an intelligent being exist just in the brain if the believer? And wouldn't exist in the brain of an unbeliever he also created. How can his existence be all about assumptions?

What does this intelligent powerful being gain if I believe he exists. How does my believe in his existence change anything. Why is it important to someone who created this vast unimaginable universe that I believe in him?

frank317:


Thank you.

The most difficult person to argue with is a deluded person who knows he is deluded and tells you he will continue to be deluded no matter what.

I easily get frustrated when someone purposely fails to think. How does calling Johnny a god make anything meaningful? How does it drive a point.

Shouldn't reasonable adults know that the fact that you have to defend a supposedly existent being day and night signifies his non existent? How long shall we continue like this. And when you try to make him see reason he brings in absurdities and starts asking abstract questions and making unreasonable statements.

They say a supposedly intelligent and powerful G‭‬od created the multi universe and its vastness and every amazing thing. Yet they redicle this special being by likening him to human. He acts like a child when it comes to human issues. I mean, ain't humans just like an invisible dust among his numerous wonderful creations? But with humans he act like a child, getting angry at our desire to play football, have sex or draw a tatoo. He makes silly mistakes and weeps at how the devil (another insignificant creation) is messing up his dearly loved ones.

He needs loves and worship like a needy human king and allow humans wonder if he is real.

Its tiring when people refuse to think. I really don't know if there is a creator... But please my small brain does not need any magic or some crazy spirit to know that a certain Jewish imaginery deity is not this creator.Its not even possible.

If there is really a love desirous creator like Yahweh, shouldnt all his creations know? Why then the argument?

The most difficult person to argue with is a deluded person who knows he is deluded and tells you he will continue to be deluded no matter what.

dalaman:
I have been following the arguments of the theist on this thread and it just boils down to " Our ignorance is God". What they don't know or do not understand they say it's God.

KingEbukasBlog:


This is not just pointless but senseless . Atheists :

God does not exist because we cant see him or hear from Him. The people who have seen Him and heard from Him are hallucinating or are mentally unstable .

LMAO ... sounds like an intelligent thing to say though

KingEbukasBlog:


Some people use the word "deluded" without even knowing it means :

We say God exists and 6.5 billion people out of a possible 7.2 billion know he exists because of the numerous physical/natural and supernatural evidences - supernatural encounters , miracles , NDEs , healings . The miserly <500 million who fail to acknowledge this hold a false belief and still remain obdurate about it without seeing the need why these myriad of people hold unto their belief - that's delusion or being deluded



It was a joke get over it . Sulking over a joke shows your level of maturity



Defending ? We have been giving a mandate and people like you who fail to see the reason why you should know the consequence of their actions . So there wouldn't be excuses when they face the punishments . Letting them know that they'll account for their actions here on earth and these punishments are deterrents for them to live a good life



This Supreme being - God - plays different roles all out once - Father , Judge , Creator , Miracle Worker , Guardian etc

A father wouldn't be mindful of his son's behavior ? As far as you are under the care of your dad , you play by his rules . Sulking or being rebellious over what daddy does not want you to do shows you are the one who is the child and not your dad . Your little fish brain does not see how powerful he is that he is so concerned about the way you live your life . Your little cockroach brain sees it as being childish . Again your little brain will see a rich dad who refuses to buy a toy for his kid at the mall as wicked or foolish . You fail to see his own reason for his action .

Better still you are so angry with Him for trying to restrain you from living the life you want to live . You ignorantly resent Him . But off course you can if you are willing to face the consequences of your actions - its that simple .

A Judge decides cases in a court . He issues whatever punishments to the offender supposedly according to his actions . If He sees you are evidently guilty he punishes you and if you are not he lets you go . At the end of your lifetime , this Being will be the Judge - to judge you according to your works .

Stop sulking and being rebellious and live a good godly life - its that simple .

PS : The Almighty owes you no explanation

Statement 1 :


@ bold Wow ! At least you admitted you had a small brain which presumably limits your ability to reason and draw logical conclusions
Statement 2 :


Looking at statement 1 and 2 , Frank317 possesses a troubled debased confused depraved mind . After typing this "well-thought-out " post , he failed utterly in drawing a logical conclusion - which proves he holds a false belief of the non-existence of a creator . At least I can draw the best inference with his first sentence on this post



Indeed you are deluded

dalaman:


Does the christian religion look like a religion whose God entity exist outside the imaginations of the believers? Look at the countless different sects in the religion with their different conflicting messages, and all of the claim that this same God that is sending different conflicting and contradictory messages to them speaks to them. Is it the same God that speaks to Pastor Kumuyi of deeper life the same God that speaks to Pastor Oyakilome of Christ embassy or Reverend T.D Jakes? Why do they all claim to be speaking to the same God yet their messages are all very different and contradictory?

Are you trolling?

johnydon22:
You can imagine. . .Something that supposedly is super-complex doesn't need a creator.

But the universe is complex, ooh must need a creator. . .the funny part of this is this guys cannot even identify how the universe works neither do they know the physics and mathematics in the quantum field
.
But they are banking on what illitrate ancient men who never knew we had other planers wrote... Can you imagine such blatant show of abject idiocy...

That's why sometimes i don't engage kids...

dalaman:


Does the christian religion look like a religion whose God entity exist outside the imaginations of the believers? Look at the countless different sects in the religion with their different conflicting messages, and all of the claim that this same God that is sending different conflicting and contradictory messages to them speaks to them. Is it the same God that speaks to Pastor Kumuyi of deeper life the same God that speaks to Pastor Oyakilome of Christ embassy or Reverend T.D Jakes? Why do they all claim to be speaking to the same God yet their messages are all very different and contradictory?

Are you trolling?

KingEbukasBlog:


Some people use the word "deluded" without even knowing it means :

We say God exists and 6.5 billion people out of a possible 7.2 billion know he exists because of the numerous physical/natural and supernatural evidences - supernatural encounters , miracles , NDEs , healings . The miserly <500 million who fail to acknowledge this hold a false belief and still remain obdurate about it without seeing the need why these myriad of people hold unto their belief - that's delusion or being deluded

KingEbukasBlog:


What about others who have the same message ? The same God warns of false prophets . A christian should know the true message because Christ is in Him

respect80:

Yes it is only the Bible messages that contradicts but scientific theories do not because saying that humans are expected to give birth to humans and saying man evolved from a smaller cell means the same.