abouzaid:
is this supposed to be a block of flats or what exactly? do you realise that the only way you can access the staircase is from the lobby in the middle of the house? i also don't like the sacrificing of cross ventilation for an outside visitors toilet

I purposely didn't upload the complete pictures because I won't finish the building at once, please note it is not a block of flats...each floor will comprise of a masters bedroom, two bedroom,kitchen,etc except for the ground floor...two bedroom flat for each floor if u want to call it that.....thanks to you all for this great thread...

domcarez:

I purposely didn't upload the complete pictures because I won't finish the building at once, please note it is not a block of flats...each floor will comprise of a masters bedroom, two bedroom,kitchen,etc except for the ground floor...two bedroom flat for each floor if u want to call it that.....thanks to you all for this great thread...

it's your money, your house and your call but if I'm a building inspector, i won't approve that plan because it's just a badly designed block of flats that would be a problem to evacuate in an emergency, has privacy issues and can be better cross ventilated. a block of flats would be in your best interest. you can also build it gradually if that's what you're afraid of.

abdulwastecx:


your drawings are incomplete.

the architectural designs, structural, electrical and plumbing designs and no professional will do it for free..... lol

Do u also do str. elect. & plumb design?

Porthos:

Do u also do str. elect. & plumb design?

yes...we do

babaeko1:
Guys

Quick questions

Anyone know good reputable somebody to supply wood for roofing, akun or itara is preferred ?

Anyone can recommend good pipes for plumbing project for 7 flats. I cannot afford imported but I have heard of the Tiger brand and was wondering if that was the best local brand.

For 7 flats, 6 flats and a pent. How many tanks would be ideal to have for the building on a tank tower. 2,3 or 4.

For a rental building, is it better to have burglary built into window casement or separate that you can see. One has to consider the nija factor and also the fact that it's a 2 bed flat and most likely young people who like to see fancy things.

Lastly. Can one use construction reinforcement bars to do burglary. I may have some left overs.

We can supply you Roofing wood from Ibadan at a lower cost

Current price

2 x 2 @ N300 per rate

2 x 3 @ N400 per rate

2 x 4 @ N500 per rate

2 x 6 @ N800 per rate

3 x 4 @ N800 per rate

1 x 12 @ N1700 per rate

wood type: Akun, Eku, Koko Ogbo, Manania, Ogons, Obus, Ayinre, Black Afara, Abora, Iroko, Itara, Ayin, Okilolo hardwood for sale 2x2, 2x3, 2x4, 2x6, 3x4, 1x12)

for more info email: lifelightproperties@gmail.com,

Call: 08182481552, 08088574969,

Whatsapp: 08182481552, B
BM PIN: 532C8DE8
visit www.lifelightproperties.com .

what. . I like d way dis thread is coming forth.. mr hslbroker nice job with d price. mr kola can u also give babaeko ur quote publicly. this will also help others in decision making

seunpinky:
what. . I like d way dis thread is coming forth.. mr hslbroker nice job with d price. mr kola can u also give babaeko ur quote publicly. this will also help others in decision making

u are welcome mr seun, pls note that we solo size wood and full size wood, the price I gave above is for full size.

Regards

can anyone give a rough estimate to build a a portable 2 bedroom flat upstairs both down and up in a dry land?pls kinly make it stage by stage because thats how i gono build it gradually. just an idea beforehand thanks u all

KolaShangOne:


We can supply you Roofing wood from Ibadan at a lower cost

@KolaShangOne , what are the cost of your wood and are they treated ones? which one in particular can you supply?

@HsLBroker,

Is this the cost to buy + deliver?

what is the difference between solo size wood and full size wood?

Do you mean all these wood (itara, akun, etc..) cost the same?

HsLBroker:
Current price

2 x 2 @ N300 per rate

2 x 3 @ N400 per rate

2 x 4 @ N500 per rate

2 x 6 @ N800 per rate

3 x 4 @ N800 per rate

1 x 12 @ N1700 per rate

wood type: Akun, Eku, Koko Ogbo, Manania, Ogons, Obus, Ayinre, Black Afara, Abora, Iroko, Itara, Ayin, Okilolo hardwood for sale 2x2, 2x3, 2x4, 2x6, 3x4, 1x12)

for more info email: lifelightproperties@gmail.com,

Call: 08182481552, 08088574969,

Whatsapp: 08182481552, B
BM PIN: 532C8DE8
visit www.lifelightproperties.com .

brag3:


@KolaShangOne , what are the cost of your wood and are they treated ones? which one in particular can you supply?

2 x 2 x 12 - #270 (Itara or Melina)

2 x 3 x 12 - #350 (Itara)

2 x 4 x 12 - #450 (Itara)

2 x 6 x 12- #650 (Itara)

3 x 4 x 12- #700 (Ayin)

1 x 12 x12 - #1500 (Melina or Iroko)

All woods are full lengths. Not Solo.
These hardwoods do not require treatment but can be treated at an extra cost of 15,000 - 20,000.

This is the best price for Itara.
And it doesn't include transportation cost.

Call us. Let's talk.

Phone - 08142364445
WhatsApp - 07038935532

seunpinky:
what. . I like d way dis thread is coming forth.. mr hslbroker nice job with d price. mr kola can u also give babaeko ur quote publicly. this will also help others in decision making

I have. Thank you. But I think this is more appropriate in the "current prices of building materials thread"

KolaShangOne:


I have. Thank you. But I think this is more appropriate in the "current prices of building materials thread"

you are welcome mr kola, but looking carefully at the thread topic you will discover is (Off-topic Thread - To Discuss Anything And Everything (Building Constructions)) and this woods prices are just nothing but very essential part of construction, infact after you are done with your dpc, block setting before anything can come up in that project it must be roofing, then other thing can follow. and you will notice that people are beginning to ask serious question that matter alot and that must be address, infact i was preparing the reply to this below before you quote me.

brag3:
@HsLBroker,
Is this the cost to buy + deliver?
what is the difference between solo size wood and full size wood?
Do you mean all these wood (itara, akun, etc..) cost the same?

,

HsLBroker:
you are welcome mr kola, but looking carefully at the thread topic you will discover is (Off-topic Thread - To Discuss Anything And Everything (Building Constructions)) and this woods prices are just nothing but very essential part of construction, infact after you are done with your dpc, block setting before anything can come up in that project it must be roofing, then other thing can follow. and you will notice that people are beginning to ask serious question that matter alot and that must be address, infact i was preparing the reply to this below before you quote me.

,

My Oga, I understand you.
I just feel that others may want to turn the thread to an "advertisement" thread which Hajj Mufutau doesn't want..

Happy Holidays and plenty jobs and businesses to follow for all of us on Nairaland.

Amen..

brag3:
@HsLBroker,
Is this the cost to buy + deliver?
what is the difference between solo size wood and full size wood?
Do you mean all these wood (itara, akun, etc..) cost the same?

No sir, the wood prices are excluded from the cost of transporting it but there maybe subsidy depend on the supplier.

The difference between solo size woods and full size woods are listed below.

One solo sizes wood are woods that not up to the address standard measurement of woods used in roofing.

for instant solo sizes 2 inches by 2 inches by 12 feet which is summarized as 2x2x12 are not going to be fully measured 2 inches by 2 inches 12 feet instead it will be 1.5 inches by 1.5 inches by 12 feet or 11 feet and at the end all those half and inches combine together by the seller or suppliers may end up shorten you close to about 50 pcs of 2 x 2 x 12, and it will be again for the seller, because on the 2 x 12 x 12 woods they are suppose to saw out 6 pcs of 2 x 2 x 12 but eventually they will sawing out 7 or 8 and that will result in you buying more woodsou and the supplier gaining woods from you, because if they are suppose to saw 50pcs 2 x 12 x 12 to give them 300 pcs of 2 x 2 x 12 they saw 38pcs of 2 x 12 x 12 and it will still give them 300 pcs but it will be lighter and it will be up to full measurement standard woods, and now some of them are going to become a rough woods that carpenter will reject in using to roof the building, because the woods will not be useful for roofing reinforcement and carpenters will not be able to stand on it, in case you are using stone coated roofing sheets for your purlins and pop designers too will reject it because the pop board strength will be too much for the light woods to hang, electricians too that will work inside the the roof for electrification will complain about there safety.

Secondly, some suppliers are so greed to the point of sawing out 3 woods from 2 x 6 x 12 from 2 x 12 x 12 instead of just dividing it into 2 equal size that will measure full accurate 2 inches by 6 inches by 12 feet woods.

But the full measurement woods are standard roofing woods, 2 x 2 x 12 will measure accurately on tape 2 inches by 2 inches by 12 feet same for 2 x 3 x 12 incase you are using aluminum roofing sheets, same for 2 x 4 x 12 for your rafters and tie beam and in some case we use it for king post if the height is not about 10 feet, and same for 3 x 4 x 12 they are suppose to be full measurement 3 inches by 4 inches by 12 ft same for 2 x 6 x 12 and 1 x 10 x 12 woods that will use for facing board.


I hope i answered your questions @brag3

If not i will stress more when the time permit

KolaShangOne:


My Oga, I understand you.
I just feel that others may want to turn the thread to an "advertisement" thread which Hajj Mufutau doesn't want..

Happy Holidays and plenty jobs and businesses to follow for all of us on Nairaland.

Amen..

Amen, i understand but this is not really a direct advert or spamming is actually an indirect advert because every questions raised must be answered adequately for the benefit of all properties section lovers and nairalanders in generally

.

HsLBroker:
you are welcome mr kola, but looking carefully at the thread topic you will discover is (Off-topic Thread - To Discuss Anything And Everything (Building Constructions)) and this woods prices are just nothing but very essential part of construction, infact after you are done with your dpc, block setting before anything can come up in that project it must be roofing, then other thing can follow. and you will notice that people are beginning to ask serious question that matter alot and that must be address, infact i was preparing the reply to this below before you quote me.

Yes. You can discuss anything (including pricing discussions) related to building constructions; no special topic.
BUT advertisements of commodities or services are NOT allowed in any form. Thank you.

Hajji M.

KolaShangOne:


My Oga, I understand you.
I just feel that others may want to turn the thread to an "advertisement" thread which Hajj Mufutau doesn't want..

Happy Holidays and plenty jobs and businesses to follow for all of us on Nairaland.

Amen..

Amen oooo.

@HsLBroker.

Thanks for the detailed explanation. It really helps alot when we get such detailed info.

So from what you are saying. The difference in sizes is due to the greedy nature of the suppliers trying to sell less for more?

So how can one combat this? how can we avoid this issue?

HsLBroker:



No sir, the wood prices are excluded from the cost of transporting it but there maybe subsidy depend on the supplier.

The difference between solo size woods and full size woods are listed below.

One solo sizes wood are woods that not up to the address standard measurement of woods used in roofing.

for instant solo sizes 2 inches by 2 inches by 12 feet which is summarized as 2x2x12 are not going to be fully measured 2 inches by 2 inches 12 feet instead it will be 1.5 inches by 1.5 inches by 12 feet or 11 feet and at the end all those half and inches combine together by the seller or suppliers may end up shorten you close to about 50 pcs of 2 x 2 x 12, and it will be again for the seller, because on the 2 x 12 x 12 woods they are suppose to saw out 6 pcs of 2 x 2 x 12 but eventually they will sawing out 7 or 8 and that will result in you buying more woodsou and the supplier gaining woods from you, because if they are suppose to saw 50pcs 2 x 12 x 12 to give them 300 pcs of 2 x 2 x 12 they saw 38pcs of 2 x 12 x 12 and it will still give them 300 pcs but it will be lighter and it will be up to full measurement standard woods, and now some of them are going to become a rough woods that carpenter will reject in using to roof the building, because the woods will not be useful for roofing reinforcement and carpenters will not be able to stand on it, in case you are using stone coated roofing sheets for your purlins and pop designers too will reject it because the pop board strength will be too much for the light woods to hang, electricians too that will work inside the the roof for electrification will complain about there safety.

Secondly, some suppliers are so greed to the point of sawing out 3 woods from 2 x 6 x 12 from 2 x 12 x 12 instead of just dividing it into 2 equal size that will measure full accurate 2 inches by 6 inches by 12 feet woods.

But the full measurement woods are standard roofing woods, 2 x 2 x 12 will measure accurately on tape 2 inches by 2 inches by 12 feet same for 2 x 3 x 12 incase you are using aluminum roofing sheets, same for 2 x 4 x 12 for your rafters and tie beam and in some case we use it for king post if the height is not about 10 feet, and same for 3 x 4 x 12 they are suppose to be full measurement 3 inches by 4 inches by 12 ft same for 2 x 6 x 12 and 1 x 10 x 12 woods that will use for facing board.


I hope i answered your questions @brag3

If not i will stress more when the time permit

brag3:
@HsLBroker.

Thanks for the detailed explanation. It really helps alot when we get such detailed info.

So from what you are saying. The difference in sizes is due to the greedy nature of the suppliers trying to sell less for more?

So how can one combat this? how can we avoid this issue?

This issue is not easy to avoid because some of the suppliers knows their way, once they get to site they liaise with site supervisor or site manager and to give stipend so at the end he or she wont say anything because that is exactly what they are been expecting, even if you bring in a good woods and you don't settle them they can still say is bad wood so some of them don't really care about the materials coming in what they are majorly concern about is that all suppliers bringing any materials to site must settle,

If you settle for a very lesser price of materials you can as well fall into the victims because majority of suppliers don't want to loose their customers so they will know how to play their game to the site.

Also know your supplier well to be a trusted person.

Thanks

abdulwastecx:


about 10 - 13k for a mesh of 1.8m x 25m

what's your take on using 6" hollow blocks for foundation? what's your take on using 6"by 6" pillars for a bungalow?what's your take on foundation depth especially for Abuja and neighbouring states given the high clay content in their soils? I'll explain later. thanks in advance.

abouzaid:
what's your take on using 6" hollow blocks for foundation? what's your take on using 6"by 6" pillars for a bungalow?what's your take on foundation depth especially for Abuja and neighbouring states given the high clay content in their soils? I'll explain later. thanks in advance.

This ought to be good.

EgunMogaji:

This ought to be good.

you're part of the reason i asked this question.

abouzaid:
you're part of the reason i asked this question.

Oh dear God

A question for the seasoned builders.

Can one build pillars all the way from blinding to final height (ring beam) at once on a bungalow?

Thanks.

EgunMogaji:
A question for the seasoned builders.

Can one build pillars all the way from blinding to final height (ring beam) at once on a bungalow?

Thanks.

i haven't seen it done before, i believe it can be done but i won't advice it because i don't see anything to be gained from it.

abouzaid:
what's your take on using 6" hollow blocks for foundation? what's your take on using 6"by 6" pillars for a bungalow?what's your take on foundation depth especially for Abuja and neighbouring states given the high clay content in their soils? I'll explain later. thanks in advance.

professor spyder880, segcymoor,brabus,ytechonst and other seasoned buiders in the house, please let's delibrate on this.

EgunMogaji:


Oh dear God

i have very nice projects in anambra and the Abuja area that i want to showcase here but you have driven the fear of God into me with the way you taunted a certain builder over this issues so lets throw it open and decide on it for once, i have scanned textbook pages and online resources to straighten out issues.

abouzaid:
i haven't seen it done before, i believe it can be done but i won't advice it because i don't see anything to be gained from it.

Financially there's some money to be saved.

For one you're not pissing about cutting rebar when it might not be necessary.

And if all done at once you can tell the iron bender to piss off until ring beam stage

abouzaid:
i have very nice projects in anambra and the Abuja area that i want to showcase here but you have driven the fear of God into me with the way you taunted a certain builder over this issues so lets throw it open and decide on it for once, i have scanned textbook pages and online resources to straighten out issues.

Dis one wey you wan pessin dash me 2X4 for head

It was a general consensus on that build by the builders contemporaries that it was a bad idea. But strictly for that build.

The truth of the matter is that you can have a strong 6 incher produced and a weak 9 incher.

So if you're going to pluck foundation blocks off of the shelf in Nigeria then imho you should go with 9 inchers.

I'm yet to see Spyder880, Aventures, Skimanski, KolaShangOne, etc use anything less than 9 inchers for foundation.

One of the profound should haves on my project was not using 9 inchers for my fence. IMHO Nigerian 6 inched are best reserved for partitions of upper walls. This is just my opinion and nothing scientific or building experience based.