Mindfulness:


So what about the comments of women who feel treated in an unfair way? They are not there?
You focus on what you want to focus.

Mindfulness:

[s]
Mike Buchanan is British. Like I said, I am aware that Britain is a different story altogether. Crazy things happen there because of feminism. BUT BRITAIN IS NOT THE WEST. It is one part of it. In other parts, feminism has done many good things for women and the society as a whole and stopped where it needed to stop.



Ok, would you say that women in Nigeria are treated in a fair way? Would you say they get the respect EVERY HUMAN deserves?



Please, do consider that THE WEST is not a single country.[/s]

Hannysmilez:
Honestly,dnt knw wats wrong wit so called "FEMINISTS". People sayin 'women are assigned to the kitchen' as if its a bad tin.
Why do we think bcoz a woman z in d office she z beta dan her counterparts in the kitchen? For me,a woman z a woman,weda as president or a housewife.
Ellen Sirleaf being a President dosnt make her any more a woman than a groundnut seller. She may be more popular and more influential and maybe more beautiful bt she is not more woman than others.
We all cant be presidents and managers,pls I see no reason why people feel dt derz smtin degradin bout bein in d kitchen. People hav got 2eat!

tartarus:

In order to be considered a feminist, you only need to be on board with one idea: All humans, male and female, should have equal political, economic and social rights.

crackhaus:

This is called Egalitarianism, not Feminism.

Take correction.

tartarus:


Heck no! Let me ask you these:
-Do parents tell their male kids, " the kitchen is where u belong, u have to feed ur husband so he doesn't throw u out"?? Why then is this statement made to female kids?

- Everyday of a females life she's groomed on how to sit, dress, talk and act like a lady to get a man by society whereas her male counterparts are taught nothing! Why is that?

- Why is it that in many Nigerian homes only the females are taught to cook? The males are never disturbed or insulted to come to the kitchen to learn how to cook.

You are being biased

Feminists are not angry lesbians who hate men. Feminists do not believe women are better than men, or that women deserve special privileges. They do not believe women are victims.
In order to be considered a feminist, you only need to be on board with one idea: All humans, male and female, should have equal political, economic and social rights.

Feminism is here to stay because feminism is needed. Being a woman in Africa, middle-east, Asia is quite difficult.

Most people here don't even understand the meaning of feminism.

The bible, the quran, culture... All of these belittle women. Feminism is good.

I used our Nigerian society as reference.

tartarus:


That's feminism. Like I said, most people don't even know what is feminism. [size=18pt]Most[/size] men always feel feminists want to start a sex war and imprison them.

What's ur definition of feminism if I may ask? Male Hating?

5minsmadness:

And why do they feel that way?

tartarus:


I don't know. Depends on the individual. Some are scared, some are just living up to culture and religion, some are mis-informed.

ApexTitan:
At this point should we offer cash rewards to any pro feminism poster to counter the video that is the subject of this thread

5minsmadness:

Am up for it. N1000 in the kitty.

5minsmadness:

Is it possible the feminist movement, by some of thier recent actions, made men to think they were on a war path?

Timbuktou:


This is the third and last time I'm going to say this. While men in the west are relatively satisfied with their lives, they are very unsatisfied with the nuisance that feminism has become to them.

Whether or not they remain better in fifty years will be plain in fifty years, won't it?

ApexTitan:


Feminism is no longer discussed in many Western countries? Men and women there have reached a level of equality they are satisfied with? Wow. This is news to me. I wonder why protests like slut walks are organised yearly in several cities of many of these western countries. I wonder why they still bother with Free The Nïpple parades. I also wonder why there is also a rise in the Men's Right Movements activities in the west. Those men in the manosphere nko, what are they talking about then?

Men are satisfied with their lives in the west yet the number of men who are willing to consider marriage - something which has been de-incentivised for men by feminism - is dropping annually.

Men are satisfied with their lives in the West even when they stand a higher chance of having the state take away their children and strip them (the men) of their wealth in the event that their marriages collapses?

It's funny that you presume to speak for the satisfaction of men in the West. It's also expected as has been asserted earlier that you would conflate the effects of feminism with the travails of a third world economy and fail to see that we are discussing about two completely different issues.

Try again.

Timbuktou:


1a. It is just the sort of madness that Buchanan advocates against that I do also. Are you suggesting I wait till it gets that bad before I raise alarm about it? I've heard about the benefits of stitching in time.

1b. Perhaps, the other countries in the west are waiting till the shiit gets to Britain levels before they react? I'd rather not be in that position if I can help it.

2. I don't understand the point and purpose of this question. Would you say Nigerian men get the respect every human deserves?

3. Oh, thanks for the geography lesson.

crackhaus:

[s]Dude/Dudette, please go watch the video on the first page and counter her points with yours... quit all this gobbledygook about how you have lived in the west and how it is miles better than Africa, this is not news to anyone.

Thank you.[/s]

Mindfulness:


And you say so because you have read, let's say, 1000 of comments? And they are representative of all men all over Europe? Right?

I have shown the comments people make here about Western men to my colleagues during the lunch break. Guess what. They were laughing.

Timbuktou:

You could call it a representative sample.


Would you say your merry colleagues represent all western men?

Mindfulness:


1. No, you wait till everyone is treated equally and then you can say stop.



2. Like I said, MOST countries do not have such issues and they don't see the need to invest their energy in something that MIGHT happen but deal with more urgent issues instead of being paranoid.



3. Just answer it.



4. You are welcome!

Mindfulness:


So because there are such movements ALL Western countries are still discussing feminism?
The topic is more important to Nigerians. Many people in many Western countries are not even familiar with these movements. I have come to learn about them on NL.

ApexTitan:


Have you watched the video yet? What are your thoughts on it?

Timbuktou:


1. What is this? Who's being treated unequally?

2. Perhaps, if the UK had applied common sense and nipped the madness in the bud there would be no Buchanan today. So, what you're advising is cure rather than prevention. Sorry, I'm not buying that. Pitch that to your less paranoid colleagues.

3. Meanwhile, you haven't answered Lauren Southern in the first post of this thread, instead you've been engaging in all sorts of olympic gold medal-worthy acrobatics and avoiding the real reason why we're here in the first place. Re-ask your question when you've answered Lauren.

ApexTitan:


You are cracking me up here.

You claim that feminism is not a big topic in the West yet the video which is the subject of this very thread was made by a Western woman which all suggests that feminism and gender issues are still active topics in public discourse over.

You are using your personal, anecdotal observation as a global gauge.

Have you watched the video yet? What are your thoughts on it?

Timbuktou:
Well, Mindfulness, since you use youtube, check this out :


www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTPTQNZQkhE


Enjoy

Mindfulness:



I am here to address your statements.




Men protecting women instead of fighting them like NL guys.

Mindfulness:


Stop twisting my words. The West is composed of many countries, it is not A COUNTRY. Learn that!

Mindfulness:


No need to. I have proven my point. Men do not suffer in the West "despite feminism" like you do in Nigeria WITHOUT feminism.