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Re: Is Kemi Really Ripe For Finance Minister? by maupe: 2:20pm On Nov 15, 2015
ekseel:


Did you deliberately omit the fact that she worked with PWC in the UK and rose to Senior Manager before coming to Nigeria or you are ignorant of that fact...
Also why not wait for her to fail before you call the appointment a big mistake, judging the book by the cover that led our economy to where it is now with your "influential" NOI.
Finally, you also portray your Nigerian mentality that "we need people who know people in high places"... WRONG.
We only need competent hands and a serious government with good vision and policies. When you are competent, you earn the respect of people and become influential.
Give the "YOUNG" "WOMAN" a chance before you people castigate her.
Doubting Thomas! lest I forget, don't famz her with your "Aunty Kemi" because am sure you don't know her.
On the contrary, I know her more than I am stating. Also, why didn't you list her entire CV. The fact is that though, she may have worked in some respective firms in the UK, she does not have the level of influence that goes with such a position as the minister of finance. That is a fact that has been pointed out by major players in the financial sector. Also, if you think that the only requirement for succeeding in the financial world is competence, then am afraid you know nothing about global and public finance. Six months down the line, you will see what I am trying to point out.
Re: Is Kemi Really Ripe For Finance Minister? by IbokUtoroh(m): 2:23pm On Nov 15, 2015
mekaboy:


You must be misinformed. From the first day she came into office she stressed the need to save for the rainy day. She stressed the need to cut cost of governance.

She insisted that leakages must be blocked hence the attempt to remove subsidy and biometric verification.

He relentless effort for diversification led to the reformation of the agric sector in partnership with the agric minister. The introduction of e-wallet , rice mills reducing the amount spent on importation of rice yearly by 40%.

Today bans have been lifted for rice importation by the buhari led administration,when Nigeria should be focused on export.

NOI i will say is the most hated finance minister Nigeria ever had. And we know that when Nigerian politicians hate you, it means you are doing something right.

Of all th3 accusations made against her, she defended herself and was not found guilty of mismanagement.

Even when oshiomole wanted to take loan to spoil his new found babe iyara, she refused. This has made her oshiomoles no 1 enemy.


If you are really looking for who to blame for Nigerias situation, blame the governors.


Your personal opinion about her is not the basis for all the offices she has held and is holding today. It is based on her performance.
god bless u with dis comment.
People are saying she raped and destroyed the economy and they cant pinpoint the actual ppolicy or thing she did that collapsed the economy.
The economy is built by states, ones states are viable, the nation becomes robust and sound. Once states are struggling, the centre will battle to contain it.
Okonjo did what she supposed to do, she has never awarded any contracts, she wasnt heading d power or works ministries. She was making policies that would encourage investors to come in and invest period.
Any one attacking her shud pls tell us the wrong moves and policies she made that collapsed the economy.
Re: Is Kemi Really Ripe For Finance Minister? by baby124: 2:24pm On Nov 15, 2015
Kemi will perform. Haters can take a running dive. She's young and smart, and has experience. That is what matters. We need young and fresh ideas which have not been tainted by over ambition on the world stage. We need someone in Nigeria, that has an understanding of the Nigerian realities of finance, and is well grounded in our working culture and environment. We don't need people with too much outside influence. Our best finance ministers were local people. And that is how it should be
Re: Is Kemi Really Ripe For Finance Minister? by IbokUtoroh(m): 2:26pm On Nov 15, 2015
Ballmer:
blaming everyone else but the guilty does make her a saint

Was it the governors that were praised for the excess crude saving during Obj era ? If they are not why should they now be blamed when the account got depleted under Okonjo ? Think before making an argument.
was it not d same govrs that went to court concerning savings?
Re: Is Kemi Really Ripe For Finance Minister? by yetunsbay(m): 2:26pm On Nov 15, 2015
Omotayor123:
I have my doubts... Keeping my fingers crossed *

Letz hope she will Deliver!
ok naw...d moment u also employ inexperienced accountant/financial manager in ur personal buz we can think of her nt performing. Can u employ a subordinate whom u're aware isn't qualified??
Re: Is Kemi Really Ripe For Finance Minister? by IbokUtoroh(m): 2:34pm On Nov 15, 2015
Ballmer:
Did the court ask the money to be shared or how am I to blame for the failures of a weakling and his minister ? How my governs dare such under OBJ and how many governors will dare that under Buhari and how many even dare that under Yar'dua ?
obj was practicing an authoritarian govt or simply put he was a democratic dictator. Yaradua was not much in d scene, he left before the thing hit him, gej practiced true democracy, govt of the people by the people for the people, govt where rule of law exist and people had a say in it just like u voted against him and it stood. Do u thing it could hv happened during obj era?
Re: Is Kemi Really Ripe For Finance Minister? by IbokUtoroh(m): 2:38pm On Nov 15, 2015
Ballmer:


You do not have to pray that you are wrong. You are totally wrong. Okonjo started from no where under Obj until she was able to assert herself. We are talking about a former commissioner of finance here. What investment did Okonjo bring into the country ? When the Europeans n Americans were afraid to invest in Nigeria and OBJ had to solicit investors from South Africa with the coming of Shoprite, MTN n co what investment did Okonjo bring from the world bank ?
shoprite na investment?
Bros stop masturbating over okonjo iweala, i dont see any nigerian alive for now who can fit her shoes. Hate her or love her, she is world class. She made her name long before obj went for her. She was d first black vp of world bank, so stop buildng castle on air.
Re: Is Kemi Really Ripe For Finance Minister? by PassingShot(m): 2:38pm On Nov 15, 2015
mekaboy:


Dont get me wrong this is not a tribal issue. Because money matters affect every Nigerian.

This is about experience. yes ogun is not the only state, but i expect that the person that will handle the finance of the nation will use his or her state resources as an example. Since she was opportuned to handle the state finances.

Okonjo warned governors of both pdp and apc of the importance of saving for the rainy day. They all said they wanted to share the excess crude funds. Iguess most of them used for campaigns.

Find out how much was saved from weeding out ghost workers using biometric verification.

Find out how much less we paid in subsidy. etc.

She adviced against subsidy and Nigerians wanted to kill her and Gej. Today sanusi is saying it should be removed.

That our economy is standing at all on one leg today is because of the policies she managed to implement, if not...

Investors are already deserting Nigeria and Kemis profile wont boost investors confidence.

Soon you will hear that her ministry is spending billions on consultancy without anything to show.
It's funny that NOI who advised and warned states to save for rainny days couldn't save for the FG to the extent that, under her watch, Nigeria had to borrow to pay salaries of federal workers in March and April.

She was in charge when all the influential businesses and individuals got import waivers for goods not qualified for same. It was under her watch that "about $10.8bn" (her words) was not accounted for by NNPC.

There are many other instances to prove that NOI is only a heavyweight on paper.

In three months, we will be able to judge if Kemi is competent or not. Keep the dagger for now.
Re: Is Kemi Really Ripe For Finance Minister? by ekseel(m): 2:41pm On Nov 15, 2015
maupe:

On the contrary, I know her more than I am stating. Also, why didn't you list her entire CV. The fact is that though, she may have worked in some respective firms in the UK, she does not have the level of influence that goes with such a position as the minister of finance. That is a fact that has been pointed out by major players in the financial sector. Also, if you think that the only requirement for succeeding in the financial world is competence, then am afraid you know nothing about global and public finance. Six months down the line, you will see what I am trying to point out.

Till then maupe, if all your noise about influence is wat it should be, then Nigeria should be another UK with all the influence NOI has...
Governance is a system with other subsystem, a serious and dedicated government with sound policy direction with other sub system working as it should be is wat will help any minister or even minister of Finance...
Bring harvard professor as minister of finance in Nigeria, he won't perform better than NOI because of the political and government we had.
The success of kemi is also hinged on the success of this administration with regard to discipline on corruption, commitment on the diversification of the economy, devotion to infrastructure development.
NOI failed because of the administration and so Kemi can only fail if the system remains the same (over dependence on crude oil and high level of corruption).
I believe in her and let her fail first, by the way she can't be worst than NOI
Re: Is Kemi Really Ripe For Finance Minister? by nigerianvenom(m): 2:42pm On Nov 15, 2015
ayindejimmy:
First, you can't take Utomi and take Kachikwu.
Secondly, what did Okonjo-Iweala' s do for us. PDP left the mess for APC to clean... And that got people blaming Buhari in just 5 months.

To answer the Ops. If we give her the leverages, she'll perform.
Ogun is not the only state that needs bail out.
What's Akwa Ibom business with bail out fund?

Has akwa ibom received any bailout funds or requested for any? Say what u know and not what ur lips itch for
Re: Is Kemi Really Ripe For Finance Minister? by Sweetguy25: 2:48pm On Nov 15, 2015
I already knew from her screening that this woman will be a disaster. She has no grounded knowledge or experience of public finance and economics to effectively handle Nigeria's finance ministry. She should have been made a minister of women affairs or some other ministry.
Buhari's cabinet as a whole is full of misfits, I'm not expecting anything positive from them.

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Re: Is Kemi Really Ripe For Finance Minister? by obailala(m): 2:51pm On Nov 15, 2015
mekaboy:


Dont get me wrong this is not a tribal issue. Because money matters affect every Nigerian.

This is about experience. yes ogun is not the only state, but i expect that the person that will handle the finance of the nation will use his or her state resources as an example. Since she was opportuned to handle the state finances.

Okonjo warned governors of both pdp and apc of the importance of saving for the rainy day. They all said they wanted to share the excess crude funds. Iguess most of them used for campaigns.

Find out how much was saved from weeding out ghost workers using biometric verification.

Find out how much less we paid in subsidy. etc.

She adviced against subsidy and Nigerians wanted to kill her and Gej. Today sanusi is saying it should be removed.

That our economy is standing at all on one leg today is because of the policies she managed to implement, if not...

Investors are already deserting Nigeria and Kemis profile wont boost investors confidence.

Soon you will hear that her ministry is spending billions on consultancy without anything to show.
NOI is an intelligent woman but she worked for unintelligent wasters, hence the problems we faced. As for Kemi, we can never judge her abilities until she is tested; NOI's capabilities were not really known until she was tested by OBJ.

By the way, on your bolded statement, Sanusi called for the total removal of subsidy payments even before NOI; Sanusi has always and is still against payment of fuel subsidies.
Re: Is Kemi Really Ripe For Finance Minister? by ekseel(m): 2:55pm On Nov 15, 2015
Sweetguy25:
I already knew from her screening that this woman will be a disaster. She has no grounded knowledge or experience of public finance and economics to effectively handle Nigeria's finance ministry. She should have been made a minister of women affairs or some other ministry.
Buhari's cabinet as a whole is full of misfits, I'm not expecting anything positive from them.

Are you not the guy that posted this?-
"The False Accusations Against Ngozi Okonjo Iweala"

Anyone that take you serious is wasting their time because you can't be objective about her anyway. Probably, you are still bitter about your "god" who was ousted from that position.
Deal with it, Kemi is the minister of Finance and she will succeed whether you like it or not
Re: Is Kemi Really Ripe For Finance Minister? by dotfam2104(m): 2:56pm On Nov 15, 2015
Adeosun deserves to be given a benefit of doubts. Pple been clamouring for new breed of ministers dah r young nd vibrant, we av one in her nd y'all r already predicting doom. Wat exactly do we want??
Re: Is Kemi Really Ripe For Finance Minister? by ayox2003: 2:59pm On Nov 15, 2015
maupe:
Despite the fact that Kemi is my big sister, I have to be truthful and honest. Aunty Kemi has only a first degree in economics from the University of East London, not even Oxford or Cambridge or even Kings college. She was initially an investment banker in Lagos before being made the commissioner for finance in Ogun state. She has no clout in the international business world and little or no contacts. To nominate her as a successor to NOI, is a big mistake, for those are shoes to big for her to wear. Also, these are perilous times for experimentation. In the wake of the JP Morgan delisting and the inevitable Barclays followup, what we need is someone who has friends in high places and can liase with these institutions for a common ground, Aunty Kemi does not have such influence. This was a mistake by the President. I won't be surprised if there is a cabinet reshuffle six months down the line.

Succinctly spoken.

The shoe is too big for Kemi. OBJ's recommendation gave her the post in Ogun State and now as a finance minister.

Honestly, I hope she would douse my doubts about her competence as a finance minister in turbulent times as this. We need highly competent ministers at this time.


Frawzey
Re: Is Kemi Really Ripe For Finance Minister? by ayindejimmy(m): 3:10pm On Nov 15, 2015
nigerianvenom:


Has akwa ibom received any bailout funds or requested for any? Say what u know and not what ur lips itch for

Lemme reply ur insult at me the best manner I can.


"At the moment, the monthly allocation for August has not been conducted and the funds have not been released. Othr states ended up on the list of “Beggar States” for reasons difficult to understand. Akwa Ibom is one example. It must be regarded as one of the ten wonders of the last eight years that a state which collected nearly N3 trillion, equal to the allocations for the six poorest states, could still end up with the “beggar’s bowl” in hand asking for bail-out. And, for the Federal Government to grant the request – no questions asked. “Saints” and “sinners” are given the same treatment. To say the least, this is setting a bad precedent."

www.vanguardngr.com/2015/09/mortgaging-the-states-to-fg-future-in-name-of-bail-out-2/
Re: Is Kemi Really Ripe For Finance Minister? by Kx: 3:16pm On Nov 15, 2015
Hypocrisy is when u question 40 something year old Kemi"s "ripeness" so to say for Finance Minister while u vehemently support 30something year old Canadian President.

They ask for youth placement in position of authority yet when they are given what they asked for, they wish it was an old over recycled politician.

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Re: Is Kemi Really Ripe For Finance Minister? by ekseel(m): 3:21pm On Nov 15, 2015
Kx:
Hypocrisy is when u question 40 something year old Kemi"s "ripeness" so to say for Finance Minister while u vehemently support 30something year old Canadian President.

They ask for youth placement in position of authority yet when they are given what they asked for, they wish it was an old over recycled politician.

#Gbam
Re: Is Kemi Really Ripe For Finance Minister? by ayindejimmy(m): 3:25pm On Nov 15, 2015
IbokUtoroh:

and who told u akwaibom needed bailout from the illiterate?
Ogun with muchmore industries than plenty states shud hv been bailing states like osun, oyo, plateau, ekiti, benue out but was on the forefront looking for bailout. Demons everywhr, illiterates everywhere, zombies everywhr.


Lemme reply ur insult at me the best manner I can.
"At the moment, the monthly allocation for August has not been conducted and the funds have not been released. Othr states ended up on the list of “Beggar States” for reasons difficult to understand. Akwa Ibom is one example. It must be regarded as one of the ten wonders of the last eight years that a state which collected nearly N3 trillion, equal to the allocations for the six poorest states, could still end up with the “beggar’s bowl” in hand asking for bail-out. And, for the Federal Government to grant the request – no questions asked. “Saints” and “sinners” are given the same treatment. To say the least, this is setting a bad precedent."
www.vanguardngr.com/2015/09/mortgaging-the-states-to-fg-future-in-name-of-bail-out-2/
Re: Is Kemi Really Ripe For Finance Minister? by maupe: 3:43pm On Nov 15, 2015
ayox2003:


Succinctly spoken.

The shoe is too big for Kemi. OBJ's recommendation gave her the post in Ogun State and now as a finance minister.

Honestly, I hope she would douse my doubts about her competence as a finance minister in turbulent times as this. We need highly competent ministers at this time.


Frawzey
Unfortunately for her, as you stated correctly, her appointment was at the behest of Obasanjo. Anyone who chooses to work on the orders and to the wishes of the one time president is doomed to fail. The problem with Obasanjo, is that he talks too much and does very little. He claims to know everybody that is everybody, in the international community, but actually is a naysayer to only a few global shakers. Another problem is his insatiable greed and irrational lust for control. Obasanjo will make Kemi do and sign unholy and ridiculous contracts which at the tail end of this administration, will reduce Aunty Kemi to a laughable commodity. Aunty Kemi, is very weak and docile, and unable to say it as it is. This was the primary reason for her failure as the commissioner for finance in Ogun state. She is not like NOI, who was bold enough to follow the books and thus, sanitised the Financial sector, without caring whose ox was gored. Unfortunately, there are those who will not listen to reason, but will rather wait till the end of four years before they see the undeniable truth. Hopefully, the President will realise his mistake, and will tell Obasanjo to let him be, and so will reshuffle his cabinet six months from now.

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Re: Is Kemi Really Ripe For Finance Minister? by ekseel(m): 4:05pm On Nov 15, 2015
maupe:

Unfortunately for her, as you stated correctly, her appointment was at the behest of Obasanjo. Anyone who chooses to work on the orders and to the wishes of the one time president is doomed to fail. The problem with Obasanjo, is that he talks too much and does very little. He claims to know everybody that is everybody, in the international community, but actually is a naysayer to only a few global shakers. Another problem is his insatiable greed and irrational lust for control. Obasanjo will make Kemi do and sign unholy and ridiculous contracts which at the tail end of this administration, will reduce Aunty Kemi to a laughable commodity. Aunty Kemi, is very weak and docile, and unable to say it as it is. This was the primary reason for her failure as the commissioner for finance in Ogun state. She is not like NOI, who was bold enough to follow the books and thus, sanitised the Financial sector, without caring whose ox was gored. Unfortunately, there are those who will not listen to reason, but will rather wait till the end of four years before they see the undeniable truth. Hopefully, the President will realise his mistake, and will tell Obasanjo to let him be, and so will reshuffle his cabinet six months from now.

I don't know you are a "TB joshua" that can see vision, leave her to work and wait till she fail.
Re: Is Kemi Really Ripe For Finance Minister? by Alphaoscar: 4:06pm On Nov 15, 2015
ayox2003:


Succinctly spoken.

The shoe is too big for Kemi. OBJ's recommendation gave her the post in Ogun State and now as a finance minister.

Honestly, I hope she would douse my doubts about her competence as a finance minister in turbulent times as this. We need highly competent ministers at this time.


Frawzey







Say what you know guy. she was never recommended by OBJ to be appointed as a commissioner in Ogun state but was rather recommended by the same man who was touted as Tinubu's preferred nominee ( Wale Edun) .





Kemi Adeosun is more of a Tinubu's person than Obj even though it is likely that OBJ helped her to this her current position.
Re: Is Kemi Really Ripe For Finance Minister? by Alphaoscar: 4:14pm On Nov 15, 2015
maupe:

Unfortunately for her, as you stated correctly, her appointment was at the behest of Obasanjo. Anyone who chooses to work on the orders and to the wishes of the one time president is doomed to fail. The problem with Obasanjo, is that he talks too much and does very little. He claims to know everybody that is everybody, in the international community, but actually is a naysayer to only a few global shakers. Another problem is his insatiable greed and irrational lust for control. Obasanjo will make Kemi do and sign unholy and ridiculous contracts which at the tail end of this administration, will reduce Aunty Kemi to a laughable commodity. Aunty Kemi, is very weak and docile, and unable to say it as it is. This was the primary reason for her failure as the commissioner for finance in Ogun state. She is not like NOI, who was bold enough to follow the books and thus, sanitised the Financial sector, without caring whose ox was gored. Unfortunately, there are those who will not listen to reason, but will rather wait till the end of four years before they see the undeniable truth. Hopefully, the President will realise his mistake, and will tell Obasanjo to let him be, and so will reshuffle his cabinet six months from now.







You are a ridiculous liar maupe. You mean she failed as a commissioner in Ogun state and she was promoted to become a minister?



FYI, Kemi was appointed as a commissioner in Ogun state at a time when the state was in crisis and grounded and she came in and tried her best.





And please cut her this Aunty hypocrisy because she was never and will be an Aunty to you.
Re: Is Kemi Really Ripe For Finance Minister? by Alphaoscar: 4:23pm On Nov 15, 2015
mekaboy:


Dont get me wrong this is not a tribal issue. Because money matters affect every Nigerian.

This is about experience. yes ogun is not the only state, but i expect that the person that will handle the finance of the nation will use his or her state resources as an example. Since she was opportuned to handle the state finances.

Okonjo warned governors of both pdp and apc of the importance of saving for the rainy day. They all said they wanted to share the excess crude funds. Iguess most of them used for campaigns.

Find out how much was saved from weeding out ghost workers using biometric verification.

Find out how much less we paid in subsidy. etc.

She adviced against subsidy and Nigerians wanted to kill her and Gej. Today sanusi is saying it should be removed.

That our economy is standing at all on one leg today is because of the policies she managed to implement, if not...

Investors are already deserting Nigeria and Kemis profile wont boost investors confidence.

Soon you will hear that her ministry is spending billions on consultancy without anything to show.






Accepted she warned them to save some money for the raining days but how much did she herself saved for the FG? let me remind you the basic reasons why the governors developed cold feet on the ECA, it was because the money was been tampered with and depleted by the FG under Okonjo Iweala's supervision .





Was it not under the same NOI that the FG got broke to the point of borrowing money to pay salary
Re: Is Kemi Really Ripe For Finance Minister? by maupe: 4:26pm On Nov 15, 2015
Alphaoscar:











FYI, Kemi was appointed as a commissioner in Ogun state at a time when the state was in crisis and grounded and she came in and tried her best
But NOI is to you a failure, because she became the minister of finance, at a time when we were in the G7 as the world's second largest economy and after 300 years of uninterrupted democracy.

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Re: Is Kemi Really Ripe For Finance Minister? by Alphaoscar: 4:30pm On Nov 15, 2015
maupe:

But NOI is to you a failure, because she became the minister of finance, at a time when we were in the G7 as the world's second largest economy and after 300 years of uninterrupted democracy.






say something reasonable and sensible or just swerve. I just burst your lies and you are diverting issues again.
Re: Is Kemi Really Ripe For Finance Minister? by maupe: 4:45pm On Nov 15, 2015
Alphaoscar:







say something reasonable and sensible or just swerve. I just burst your lies and you are diverting issues again.
If you don't understand this. then there is no point continuing this debate
Re: Is Kemi Really Ripe For Finance Minister? by ayox2003: 7:04pm On Nov 15, 2015
maupe:

If you don't understand this. then there is no point continuing this debate

Shade out the guy.

NL is besieged by the torment of impartial analysis. Rife are posts of verbal vendetta and vituperations amongst the murky swimmers of the political section. Thats why sentimental posts is the order of the day here.

There were mixed reactions in the market upon her anouncement. I really hope she performs.

Hope is a not a bad thing. smiley


Frawzey
Re: Is Kemi Really Ripe For Finance Minister? by chaseTE: 7:47pm On Nov 15, 2015
maupe:
Despite the fact that Kemi is my big sister, I have to be truthful and honest. Aunty Kemi has only a first degree in economics from the University of East London, not even Oxford or Cambridge or even Kings college. She was initially an investment banker in Lagos before being made the commissioner for finance in Ogun state. She has no clout in the international business world and little or no contacts. To nominate her as a successor to NOI, is a big mistake, for those are shoes to big for her to wear. Also, these are perilous times for experimentation. In the wake of the JP Morgan delisting and the inevitable Barclays followup, what we need is someone who has friends in high places and can liase with these institutions for a common ground, Aunty Kemi does not have such influence. This was a mistake by the President. I won't be surprised if there is a cabinet reshuffle six months down the line.
Is like you watched Prof Oyebode on Channels two days ago. Infact he called the appointment a "Rude Joke".
Re: Is Kemi Really Ripe For Finance Minister? by Nobody: 8:29pm On Nov 15, 2015
Time would tell...
Re: Is Kemi Really Ripe For Finance Minister? by MIM77(m): 9:29pm On Nov 15, 2015
Why Ngozi Okonjo Iweala, is she the only brainy person in Nigeria for that position? Afterall she lied countless times that our economy was bouyant when all physical indicators were showing the contrary. The effect of how she and the clueless one ran the economy is what the present govt is grappling with, but God will help us get it right dis time.
As for Kemi bn riped for Finance minister is immaterial, i pray God should help her get it right for us since the very riped ones we hv seen at the past did little or nothing.

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