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Re: How Did Genesis' Writer Gain Access To Such Accurate Scientific Information by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:21pm On Nov 20, 2015
Dekatron:


That wasn't what I asked, Mr Man




IS A RABBIT A RUMINANT ANIMAL? . . YES OR NO?
angry angry angry angry

But how does this stop God from existing ? cool

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Re: How Did Genesis' Writer Gain Access To Such Accurate Scientific Information by winner01(m): 11:22pm On Nov 20, 2015
Dekatron:


That wasn't what I asked, Mr Man




IS A RABBIT A RUMINANT ANIMAL? . . YES OR NO?
angry angry angry angry
Rabbit is not a ruminant animal, neither is it a non ruminant animal.

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Re: How Did Genesis' Writer Gain Access To Such Accurate Scientific Information by winner01(m): 11:27pm On Nov 20, 2015
Ranchhoddas:
kai...na wa o
Na wa for you too, Answer my question.

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Re: How Did Genesis' Writer Gain Access To Such Accurate Scientific Information by Dekatron(m): 11:28pm On Nov 20, 2015
winner01:
Rabbit is not a ruminant animal, neither is it a non ruminant animal.

A ruminant animal, from basic science class 4, is an animal that chews cud and HAVE FOUR STOMACHS


A non-ruminant is the opposite. How then, can it be neither??




If you cannot debate a simple science like this, we have no talk.



WHERE IS YOUR PROOF THAT ITS A RUMINANT ANIMAL AND ITS NOT A RUMINANT ANIMAL?

angry angry angry


@kingebukasblog, just chill. It proves god doesn't exist cos as OMNISCIENT as he is, he doesn't know if a rabbit is ruminant or not.
Re: How Did Genesis' Writer Gain Access To Such Accurate Scientific Information by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:31pm On Nov 20, 2015
Dekatron:

@kingebukasblog, just chill. It proves god doesn't exist cos as OMNISCIENT as he is, he doesn't know if a rabbit is ruminant or not.

Kindergarten reasoning smiley

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Re: How Did Genesis' Writer Gain Access To Such Accurate Scientific Information by winner01(m): 11:40pm On Nov 20, 2015
Dekatron:


A ruminant animal, from basic science class 4, is an animal that chews cud and HAVE FOUR STOMACHS


A non-ruminant is the opposite. How then, can it be neither??




If you cannot debate a simple science like this, we have no talk.



WHERE IS YOUR PROOF THAT ITS A RUMINANT ANIMAL AND ITS NOT A RUMINANT ANIMAL?

angry angry angry


@kingebukasblog, just chill. It proves god doesn't exist cos as OMNISCIENT as he is, he doesn't know if a rabbit is ruminant or not.
Not four stomachs, four-compartment stomach.

You need to get a biology text book to read on why rabbits are not ruminants or non ruminants. You have internet connection for christs sake.



In case you find it difficult to read, allow me to offer some assistance grin

"Also, some mammals are pseudoruminants, which have a three-compartment stomach instead of four like ruminants. The Hippopotamidae (comprising hippopotami) are well-known examples. Pseudoruminants, like traditional ruminants, are foregut fermentors and most ruminate or chew cud. However, their anatomy and method of digestion differs significantly from that of a four-chambered ruminant.

Monogastric herbivores, such as rhinoceroses, horses, and rabbits, are not ruminants, as they have a simple single-chambered stomach. These hindgut fermenters digest cellulose in an enlarged cecum through the reingestion of the cecotrope".
Read more here;
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruminant


Read that and then come back to beg for mercy grin, for you have been publicly ignorant with pride. grin
Re: How Did Genesis' Writer Gain Access To Such Accurate Scientific Information by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:50pm On Nov 20, 2015
winner01:
Not four stomachs, four-compartment stomach.

You need to get a biology text book to read on why rabbits are not ruminants or non ruminants. You have internet connection for christs sake.



In case you find it difficult to read, allow me to offer some assistance grin

"Also, some mammals are pseudoruminants, which have a three-compartment stomach instead of four like ruminants. The Hippopotamidae (comprising hippopotami) are well-known examples. Pseudoruminants, like traditional ruminants, are foregut fermentors and most ruminate or chew cud. However, their anatomy and method of digestion differs significantly from that of a four-chambered ruminant.

Monogastric herbivores, such as rhinoceroses, horses, and rabbits, are not ruminants, as they have a simple single-chambered stomach. These hindgut fermenters digest cellulose in an enlarged cecum through the reingestion of the cecotrope".
Read more here;
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruminant


Read that and then come back to beg for mercy grin, for you have been publicly ignorant with pride. grin

Ouch ! cheesy
Re: How Did Genesis' Writer Gain Access To Such Accurate Scientific Information by UyiIredia(m): 12:22am On Nov 21, 2015
winner01:
For the umpteenth time, Rabbits reingest partially digested food, ruminants also do but in a different way.

The definition of Cud 3500 years ago na hn dey cause problem for you.


Now you answer this question.


You even try. I for ask whether scientists done make dead body live ?
Re: How Did Genesis' Writer Gain Access To Such Accurate Scientific Information by Ranchhoddas: 6:54am On Nov 21, 2015
winner01:
Na wa for you too, Answer my question.
It's a hopeless case.
Re: How Did Genesis' Writer Gain Access To Such Accurate Scientific Information by Ranchhoddas: 6:59am On Nov 21, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


But how does this stop God from existing ? cool
Is this thread about the existence of God?
Re: How Did Genesis' Writer Gain Access To Such Accurate Scientific Information by Dekatron(m): 9:30am On Nov 21, 2015
winner01:
Not four stomachs, four-compartment stomach.

You need to get a biology text book to read on why rabbits are not ruminants or non ruminants. You have internet connection for christs sake.



In case you find it difficult to read, allow me to offer some assistance grin

[b]"Also, some mammals are pseudoruminants, which have a three-compartment stomach instead of four like ruminants.[/b]The Hippopotamidae (comprising hippopotami) are well-known examples. Pseudoruminants, like traditional ruminants, are foregut fermentors and most ruminate or chew cud. However, their anatomy and method of digestion differs significantly from that of a four-chambered ruminant.

Monogastric herbivores, such as rhinoceroses, horses, and rabbits, are not ruminants, as they have a simple single-chambered stomach. These hindgut fermenters digest cellulose in an enlarged cecum through the reingestion of the cecotrope".
Read more here;
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruminant


Read that and then come back to beg for mercy grin, for you have been publicly ignorant with pride. grin


If I started sharing links, you'd quickly jump to defensive mode. Saying ATHEIST COVER UP WITH SCIENCE.


Anyway, I gave u that. . . . So, @Bolded :- Now that you shot yourself in the arm, tell me WHERE THE BIBLE MADE MENTION OF THIS?



Following the analogy of what the bible said abt animals chewing cud, when did they made mention of PSEUDO-RUMINANT animals? After all, from what you said, they shoulda been smart enough to differentiate ruminant from pseudo since THEY KNEW WHAT MODERN DAY SCIENTISTS KNOW?



NB :- DO NOT, IN YOUR USUAL MANNER OF DODGING CONVERSATIONS, CLAIM YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND. YOU MADE POINTS SO FAR, I DIDN'T RUN AWAY. NOW, ANSWER ME
Re: How Did Genesis' Writer Gain Access To Such Accurate Scientific Information by Dekatron(m): 9:32am On Nov 21, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:

Kindergarten reasoning smiley
Its even more kindergarten to believe a talking snake. undecided undecided


Read very well and comment again

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Re: How Did Genesis' Writer Gain Access To Such Accurate Scientific Information by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:37am On Nov 21, 2015
Dekatron:


Its even more kindergarten to believe a talking snake. undecided undecided



Read very well and comment again

Only shallow minds dont care to know more . Its simple for me , since I know of God's existence then that event is explainable
Re: How Did Genesis' Writer Gain Access To Such Accurate Scientific Information by urahara(m): 10:18am On Nov 21, 2015
winner01:
Dung are waste products, caecotropes are partially digested food. So the Bible certainly knows exactly what it meant. wink

What exactly do you seek undecided



"There came a time in my life when I doubted the divinity of the Scriptures, and I resolved as a lawyer and a judge I would try the Book as I would try anything in the courtroom, taking evidence for and against. It was a long, serious and profound study and using the same principles of evidence in this religious matter as I always do in secular matters, I have come to the decision that the BIBLE is a supernatural Book, that it has come from GOD, and that the only safety for the human race is to follow its teachings"
- Salmon P. Chase
www.nairaland.com/2746916/how-did-genesis-writer-gain/2#40240726


www.nairaland.com/2746916/how-did-genesis-writer-gain/2#40240726


No matter how Christians try to play with the meanings of words to fit their scripture. There just is one chapter that do that for.
This chapter of the bible has been Said to be the most embarrassing verse in the bible.
Re: How Did Genesis' Writer Gain Access To Such Accurate Scientific Information by urahara(m): 10:25am On Nov 21, 2015
Ladies and gentlemen I give you Matthew chapter 24

 While He was seated on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately and said, Tell us, when will this take place, and what will be the sign of Your coming and of the end (the completion, the consummation) of the age?

4 Jesus answered them, Be careful that no one misleads you [deceiving you and leading you into error].

5 For many will come in (on the strength of) My name [appropriating the name which belongs to Me], saying, I am the Christ (the Messiah), and they will lead many astray.

6 And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars; see that you are not frightened or troubled, for this must take place, but the end is not yet.

7 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be famines and earthquakes in place after place;

8 All this is but the beginning [the early pains] of the birth pangs [of the intolerable anguish].

9 Then they will hand you over to suffer affliction and tribulation and put you to death, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake.

10 And then many will be offendedand repelled and will begin to distrust and desert [Him Whom they ought to trust and obey] andwill stumble and fall away and betray one another and pursue one another with hatred.

11 And many false prophets will rise up and deceive and lead many into error.

12 And the love of the great body of people will grow cold because of the multiplied lawlessness andiniquity,

13 But he who endures to the end will be saved.

14 And this good news of the kingdom (the Gospel) will be preached throughout the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then will come the end.

15 So when you see the appalling sacrilege [the abomination that astonishes and makes desolate], spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the Holy Place—let the reader take notice and ponderand consider and heed [this]—

16 Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains;

17 Let him who is on the housetop not come down and go into the house to take anything;

18 And let him who is in the field not turn back to get his overcoat.

19 And alas for the women who are pregnant and for those who have nursing babies in those days!

20 Pray that your flight may not be in winter or on a Sabbath.

21 For then there will be great tribulation (affliction, distress, and oppression) such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now—no, and never will be [again].

22 And if those days had not been shortened, no human being would endure and survive, but for the sake of the elect (God’s chosen ones) those days will be shortened.

23 If anyone says to you then, Behold, here is the Christ (the Messiah)! or, There He is!—do not believe it.

24 For false Christs and false prophets will arise, and they will show great signs and wonders so as to deceive and lead astray, if possible, even the elect (God’s chosen ones).

25 See, I have warned you beforehand.

26 So if they say to you, Behold, He is in the wilderness (desert)—do not go out there; if they tell you, Behold, He is in the secret places or inner rooms—do not believe it.

27 For just as the lightning flashes from the east and shines and is seen as far as the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be.

28 Wherever there is a fallen body (a corpse), there the vultures (or eagles) will flock together.

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not shed its light, and the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.

30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mournand beat their breasts and lament in anguish, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory [in brilliancy and splendor].

31 And He will send out His angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather His elect (His chosen ones) from the four winds, [even] from one end of the universe to the other.

32 From the fig tree learn this lesson: as soon as its young shoots become soft and tender and it puts out its leaves, you know of a surety that summer is near.

33 So also when you see these signs,all taken together, coming to pass, you may know of a surety that He is near, at the very doors.

34 Truly I tell you, this generation (the whole multitude of people living at the same time, in a definite, given period) will not pass away till all these thingstaken together take place.

35 Sky and earth will pass away, but My words will not pass away.

36 But of that [exact] day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.
Re: How Did Genesis' Writer Gain Access To Such Accurate Scientific Information by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:29am On Nov 21, 2015
urahara:
Ladies and gentlemen I give you Matthew chapter 24

 While He was seated on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately and said, Tell us, when will this take place, and what will be the sign of Your coming and of the end (the completion, the consummation) of the age?

4 Jesus answered them, Be careful that no one misleads you [deceiving you and leading you into error].

5 For many will come in (on the strength of) My name [appropriating the name which belongs to Me], saying, I am the Christ (the Messiah), and they will lead many astray.

6 And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars; see that you are not frightened or troubled, for this must take place, but the end is not yet.

7 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be famines and earthquakes in place after place;

8 All this is but the beginning [the early pains] of the birth pangs [of the intolerable anguish].

9 Then they will hand you over to suffer affliction and tribulation and put you to death, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake.

10 And then many will be offendedand repelled and will begin to distrust and desert [Him Whom they ought to trust and obey] andwill stumble and fall away and betray one another and pursue one another with hatred.

11 And many false prophets will rise up and deceive and lead many into error.

12 And the love of the great body of people will grow cold because of the multiplied lawlessness andiniquity,

13 But he who endures to the end will be saved.

14 And this good news of the kingdom (the Gospel) will be preached throughout the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then will come the end.

15 So when you see the appalling sacrilege [the abomination that astonishes and makes desolate], spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the Holy Place—let the reader take notice and ponderand consider and heed [this]—

16 Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains;

17 Let him who is on the housetop not come down and go into the house to take anything;

18 And let him who is in the field not turn back to get his overcoat.

19 And alas for the women who are pregnant and for those who have nursing babies in those days!

20 Pray that your flight may not be in winter or on a Sabbath.

21 For then there will be great tribulation (affliction, distress, and oppression) such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now—no, and never will be [again].

22 And if those days had not been shortened, no human being would endure and survive, but for the sake of the elect (God’s chosen ones) those days will be shortened.

23 If anyone says to you then, Behold, here is the Christ (the Messiah)! or, There He is!—do not believe it.

24 For false Christs and false prophets will arise, and they will show great signs and wonders so as to deceive and lead astray, if possible, even the elect (God’s chosen ones).

25 See, I have warned you beforehand.

26 So if they say to you, Behold, He is in the wilderness (desert)—do not go out there; if they tell you, Behold, He is in the secret places or inner rooms—do not believe it.

27 For just as the lightning flashes from the east and shines and is seen as far as the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be.

28 Wherever there is a fallen body (a corpse), there the vultures (or eagles) will flock together.

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not shed its light, and the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.

30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mournand beat their breasts and lament in anguish, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory [in brilliancy and splendor].

31 And He will send out His angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather His elect (His chosen ones) from the four winds, [even] from one end of the universe to the other.

32 From the fig tree learn this lesson: as soon as its young shoots become soft and tender and it puts out its leaves, you know of a surety that summer is near.

33 So also when you see these signs,all taken together, coming to pass, you may know of a surety that He is near, at the very doors.

34 Truly I tell you, this generation (the whole multitude of people living at the same time, in a definite, given period) will not pass away till all these thingstaken together take place.

35 Sky and earth will pass away, but My words will not pass away.

36 But of that [exact] day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.


pls what's the point of this ?
Re: How Did Genesis' Writer Gain Access To Such Accurate Scientific Information by urahara(m): 10:29am On Nov 21, 2015
This is one chapter no amount of word twisting can be done for
Re: How Did Genesis' Writer Gain Access To Such Accurate Scientific Information by urahara(m): 10:31am On Nov 21, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


pls what's the point of this ?

My point is that when we show you any error in your bible. You start twisting words and giving them meanings they never had. But for this chapter that can't be done for
Re: How Did Genesis' Writer Gain Access To Such Accurate Scientific Information by winner01(m): 10:39am On Nov 21, 2015
Dekatron:



If I started sharing links, you'd quickly jump to defensive mode. Saying ATHEIST COVER UP WITH SCIENCE.


Anyway, I gave u that. . . . So, @Bolded :- Now that you shot yourself in the arm, tell me WHERE THE BIBLE MADE MENTION OF THIS?



Following the analogy of what the bible said abt animals chewing cud, when did they made mention of PSEUDO-RUMINANT animals? After all, from what you said, they shoulda been smart enough to differentiate ruminant from pseudo since THEY KNEW WHAT MODERN DAY SCIENTISTS KNOW?



NB :- DO NOT, IN YOUR USUAL MANNER OF DODGING CONVERSATIONS, CLAIM YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND. YOU MADE POINTS SO FAR, I DIDN'T RUN AWAY. NOW, ANSWER ME

Dude, you've been busted. You dont have any point, ive answered your questions, stop trying to twist and turn.

The Bible never made mention of ruminants, pseudo ruminants or non ruminants because its not a biology textbook.

It made mention of chewing the cud, cud simply means partially digested food.
And Rabbits reingest partially digested food. Wikipedia, which urahara brought into the fray also agrees with this and None of you can fault this.
What other answer do you want apart from this grin.

The title of this thread itself is a question, why havent anybody been able to answer it undecided



“Jewish authors would never have invented either that style nor that morality; and the Gospel has marks of truth so great, so striking, so utterly inimitable, that the invention of it would be more astonishing than the hero.”
- Jean Jacques Rousseau, French skeptic
Re: How Did Genesis' Writer Gain Access To Such Accurate Scientific Information by winner01(m): 10:43am On Nov 21, 2015
urahara:


My point is that when we show you any error in your bible. You start twisting words and giving them meanings they never had. But for this chapter that can't be done for
Can you list out the errors in the chapter, cos e be lyk say na only your eyes get infrared error detector grin
Re: How Did Genesis' Writer Gain Access To Such Accurate Scientific Information by winner01(m): 10:46am On Nov 21, 2015
urahara:

www.nairaland.com/2746916/how-did-genesis-writer-gain/2#40240726


www.nairaland.com/2746916/how-did-genesis-writer-gain/2#40240726


No matter how Christians try to play with the meanings of words to fit their scripture. There just is one chapter that do that for.
This chapter of the bible has been Said to be the most embarrassing verse in the bible.
Now that you have nothing to say on the hare chewing partially digested food, you want to switch to another thing.
Oya naw, bring it on.


“I believe that the existence of the Bible is the greatest benefit to the human race. Any attempt to belittle it, I believe, is a crime against humanity.”
-Immanuel Kant, German idealist philosopher, 1724-1804
Re: How Did Genesis' Writer Gain Access To Such Accurate Scientific Information by winner01(m): 10:52am On Nov 21, 2015

“This book had to be written by one of three people: good men, bad men or God. It couldn’t have been written by good men because they said it was inspired by the revelation of God. Good men don’t lie and deceive. It couldn’t have been written by bad men because bad men would not write something that would condemn themselves. It leaves only one conclusion. It was given by divine inspiration of God.”
-John Wesley 1703-1791
Re: How Did Genesis' Writer Gain Access To Such Accurate Scientific Information by winner01(m): 10:55am On Nov 21, 2015
Dekatron:


Its even more kindergarten to believe a talking snake. undecided undecided



Read very well and comment again
Its most kindergarten to believe that existence just happened for no reason.



“Education is useless without the Bible.”
-Daniel Webster , American politician and noted orator, 1782-1852

Re: How Did Genesis' Writer Gain Access To Such Accurate Scientific Information by urahara(m): 10:58am On Nov 21, 2015
winner01:
Can you list out the errors in the chapter, cos e be lyk say na only your eyes get infrared error detector grin

Jesus made it clear that his coming was to be in the lifetime of his disciples. Now it's over 2000 years. The disciples are all dead.
HONEST CONCLUSION ; PROPHECY FAILED
Re: How Did Genesis' Writer Gain Access To Such Accurate Scientific Information by winner01(m): 10:58am On Nov 21, 2015
UyiIredia:


You even try. I for ask whether scientists done make dead body live ?
Lmao grin
Re: How Did Genesis' Writer Gain Access To Such Accurate Scientific Information by winner01(m): 10:59am On Nov 21, 2015
Ranchhoddas:
Is this thread about the existence of God?
Yes, in all its entirety, it is.
Re: How Did Genesis' Writer Gain Access To Such Accurate Scientific Information by urahara(m): 11:08am On Nov 21, 2015
Hebrew literal reading for Leviticus ; to maketh the cud ascend up. This doesn't even happen. The cud can only ascend up when regurgitated.
Re: How Did Genesis' Writer Gain Access To Such Accurate Scientific Information by winner01(m): 11:10am On Nov 21, 2015
urahara:


Jesus made it clear that his coming was to be in the lifetime of his disciples. Now it's over 2000 years. The disciples are all dead.
HONEST CONCLUSION ; PROPHECY FAILED

urahara:
Ladies and gentlemen I give you my mistake in Matthew chapter 24

While He was seated on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately and said, Tell us, when will this take place, and what will be the sign of Your coming and of the end (the completion, the consummation) of the age?

My atheist brothers, Ive failed you all.
Im sorry i thought Jesus would be with his disciples in physical form till the end of the age, though i will still keep looking for the exact verse where Jesus told his disciples the following; I will come back during your lifetime.
We will do all we can to bring down christianity, may nothing help us, Amen. Im deeply sorry.
grin

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Re: How Did Genesis' Writer Gain Access To Such Accurate Scientific Information by UyiIredia(m): 11:11am On Nov 21, 2015
winner01:
Lmao grin

Fabrice Muamba things. Dem press d guy like 1hr before im resurrect. Dem no press my Papa up to 5 mins before doctor give up and said 'He has passed on'. That event NO LONGER EXISTS. Some people deny jazz so tey if dem do jazz for their front dem go say say 'Magic IS real but I know not it EXISTS.' Dey like a normal reality: no Spirit, ghosts, demons etc.

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Re: How Did Genesis' Writer Gain Access To Such Accurate Scientific Information by UyiIredia(m): 11:14am On Nov 21, 2015
Mr dejatron, u Neva receive my mail. I want to invite you to my house.
Re: How Did Genesis' Writer Gain Access To Such Accurate Scientific Information by winner01(m): 11:16am On Nov 21, 2015
urahara:
Hebrew literal reading for Leviticus ; to maketh the cud ascend up. This doesn't even happen. The cud can only ascend up when regurgitated.
If you like, go find japanese literal reading.
Rabbits chew partially digested food tongue



"The BIBLE is one of the greatest blessings bestowed by GOD on the children of men -- It has GOD for its Author, Salvation for its end, and Truth without any mixture for its matter. -- It is all pure, all sincere; nothing too much; nothing wanting"
-John Locke
Re: How Did Genesis' Writer Gain Access To Such Accurate Scientific Information by urahara(m): 11:17am On Nov 21, 2015
34 Truly I tell you, this generation (the whole multitude of people living at the same time, in a
definite, given period) will not pass away till all these thingstaken together take place.

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