bosedekemi:


Only Igbanke in Edo is part of Bafra. Benin Kingdom is a very powerful ancient one that even conquered Yoruba.

You're very correct. But I think the exclusion of most part of Edo is not because "the Benin Kingdom is a very powerful ancient one...". The proponents of Biafra say that in Biafra there will be total abolition of Monarchy. And the Benin Kingdom is ancient as you said, and culturally deep rooted and therefore will be averse with the Biafran Principle of State Polity.

And Biafra will not want to interfere with peoples' cultures and roots.

But if put through a referendum and the people accept to jettison their monarchy and vote to join Biafra then they're accepted.

One thing must be said here: BIAFRA IS NOT, AND SHALL NOT BE A FORCED STATE. Even if the so called South south chooses through the referendum to remain in Nigeria like TonyeBarcanista insists they'll be completely allowed to remain (although the minuscle opinion of one man is too infinitesimal in issues like this). If they want separate break away State then they must be prepared to slug it out with Nigeria. Though I don't see this happening.

Finally, I think it's time for the proponents of Biafra to begin to unveil the political and economic blueprints for the proposed "Biafran" public to see, so that those "annexed" areas or regions will begin to weigh their options. I read, and saved, yesterday a document purported to be presented by Asari Dokubo titled Biafran Charter of Government (or something). I think it's time to begin to act in ways that shows the struggle is real and unstoppable.

God Bless Every People Around The World Who Seek Genuine Freedom.

TonyeBarcanista:
@OP you forget to add Zamfara, Sokoto and Kano.

The south south is NOT, has NOT and will never be part of Biaf®an project except you Want to deliberately pursue a failed project.


This is a FACT!

tonye I swear Igbos re very *******.. asin ******* to the extent that they can do anything to claim all oil producing communities even if that community have nothing in common with them.

They claim they have nothing in common with Yoruba and Edo so they can't stay in the same country with them, Now Wat connection do Igbo have with an Itsekiri man who speaks the ilaje/Yoruba language and share Edo Culture ?


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Goodboiyy:


tonye I swear Igbos re very greedy.. asin greedy to the extent that they can do anything to claim all oil producing communities even if that community have nothing in common with them.

They claim they have nothing in common with Yoruba and Edo so they can't stay in the same country with them, Now Wat connection do Igbo have with an Itsekiri man who speaks the ilaje/Yoruba language and share Edo Culture ?


Greed at its peak

Why are you having heart attack over Biafra matter. The igbos don''t want to remain in Nigeria, is it by Force!!!

1MCN:


You're very correct. But I think the exclusion of most part of Edo is not because "the Benin Kingdom is a very powerful ancient one...". The proponents of Biafra say that in Biafra there will be total abolition of Monarchy. And the Benin Kingdom is ancient as you said, and culturally deep rooted and therefore will be averse with the Biafran Principle of State Polity.

And Biafra will not want to interfere with peoples' cultures and roots.

But if put through a referendum and the people accept to jettison their monarchy and vote to join Biafra then they're accepted.

One thing must be said here: BIAFRA IS NOT, AND SHALL NOT BE A FORCED STATE. Even if the so called South south chooses through the referendum to remain in Nigeria like TonyeBarcanista insists they'll be completely allowed to remain (although the minuscle opinion of one man is too infinitesimal in issues like this). If they want separate break away State then they must be prepared to slug it out with Nigeria. Though I don't see this happening.

Finally, I think it's time for the proponents of Biafra to begin to unveil the political and economic blueprints for the proposed "Biafran" public to see, so that those "annexed" areas or regions will begin to weigh their options. I read, and saved, yesterday a document purported to be presented by Asari Dokubo titled Biafran Charter of Government (or something). I think it's time to begin to act in ways that shows the struggle is real and unstoppable.

God Bless Every People Around The World Who Seek Genuine Freedom.

You don't get it... We don't want your Biafra ... na force again ?

Lemme explain how we feel anytime u include Our land in ur struggle..

If for example Youruba wants and Odua nation and in there map they included Anioma/igbo communities in SS, and wen anioma people confront Yoruba, The Yoruba were nw saying You must do a referendum , .. How do you think they (Anioma ) will feel ? That how we feel anytime u include Itsekiri, Urhobo, Ijaw, Isoko , e.t.c land inside ur greedy/selfish map... We don't want... Asin The thing don they vex me.. Can you stay without Us ?.. wat do we even have in common ?.. is it food ?, Language?, Thinking? Names ? guy abeg we don't need referendum.


The same way u need Biafra that's the same way we want Resource Control.. Tonyebarcanista might be 1 man opinion to u Folks from SE .. but Don't Be surprise wat we will do to u if u dare drag us into any greedy country ..

divinehand2003:


Lol, I like your sense of reasoning. But are you sure these people would love to live together in the same nation?

They'd all be united in the person of the Bini emperor... It'd be a restoration of the Bini empire though on a much smaller scale

Allow those proponent of IPOB Biafra to dream.... The illusion will remain so.

Goodboiyy:


tonye I swear Igbos re very greedy.. asin greedy to the extent that they can do anything to claim all oil producing communities even if that community have nothing in common with them.

They claim they have nothing in common with Yoruba and Edo so they can't stay in the same country with them, Now Wat connection do Igbo have with an Itsekiri man who speaks the ilaje/Yoruba language and share Edo Culture ?


Greed at its peak

willow0802:


Why are you having heart attack over Biafra matter. The igbos don''t want to remain in Nigeria, is it by Force!!!

Wats my biz with u leaving Nigeria ?.. I benefit nothing from Igbo, Yoruba or Hausa, If u want to leave then go.. but don't drag others with u .. we dont share same Ideology.. u want Biafra we want Something else.. respect our decision and We will respect yours. No matter wat u say.. Biafra agitation all boils down to oil, Deal with the truth

Goodboiyy:



You don't get it... We don't want your Biafra ... na force again ?

Lemme explain how we feel anytime u include Our land in ur struggle..

If for example Youruba wants and Odua nation and in there map they included Anioma/igbo communities in SS, and wen anioma people confront Yoruba, The Yoruba were nw saying You must do a referendum , .. How do you think they (Anioma ) will feel ? That how we feel anytime u include Itsekiri, Urhobo, Ijaw, Isoko , e.t.c land inside ur greedy/selfish map... We don't want... Asin The thing don they vex me.. Can you stay without Us ?.. wat do we even have in common ?.. is it food ?, Language?, Thinking? Names ? guy abeg we don't need referendum.


The same way u need Biafra that's the same way we want Resource Control.. Tonyebarcanista might be 1 man opinion to u Folks from SE .. but Don't Be surprise wat we will do to u if u dare drag us into any greedy country ..

I don't think all these are necessary. It is a well established fact that Biafra is Igbo project and will remain so. Whoever think he can force the SS should try his luck...I wish them well...

ishiamu:


You no suppose talk with the rate you use ugly, if them dey censor beauty for NL your moniker will be deleted

Lol
My tummy ooo

TonyeBarcanista:

I don't think all these are necessary. It is a well established fact that Biafra is Igbo project and will remain so. Whoever think he can force the SS should try his luck...I wish them well...

Is not just an Igbo project or is it because they are championing it...?
Besides you should know Igbo's are not minority and they are successful that's why they are always heard across the globe.
Meanwhile like someone else have told you here why not go and rest since the issue can be resolved with a referendum.....
Why are you so scared....
If you envy Biafra so much why not open ijaw radio and champion yours.... What's eating you up so badly? Frustration or hatred or envy?
Anyone, I silly don't Care.

Goodboiyy:


Wats my biz with u leaving Nigeria ?.. I benefit nothing from Igbo, Yoruba or Hausa, If u want to leave then go.. but don't drag others with u .. we do share same Ideology.. u want Biafra we want Something else.. respect our decision and We will respect yours. No matter wat u say.. Biafra agitation all boils down to oil, Deal with the truth

wasted youth!

TonyeBarcanista:
Allow those proponent of IPOB Biafra to dream.... The illusion will remain so.

And You see some of there E-rat on NL shouting we don't need you SS minorities in our country, but so far I haven't seen any Biafra map without SS . all. the map they have been drawing since this year, my land is still there.. cant they draw there map without including others who re not interested ?...

NOBLEDANDY:


Is not just an Igbo project or is it because they are championing it...?
Besides you should know Igbo's are not minority and they are successful that's why they are always heard across the globe.
Meanwhile like someone else have told you here why not go and rest since the issue can be resolved with a referendum.....
Why are you so scared....
If you envy Biafra so much why not open ijaw radio and champion yours.... What's eating you up?

there u get it wrong... Did we tell u we want referendum ?.. Pls I need proof.. if no why re you then Forcing Your Referendum on us as if we asked for it .. Pls start your referendum in warri.. if u have 3% of our support then Biafra have it..

Goodboiyy:


And You see some of there E-rat on NL shouting we don't need you SS minorities in our country, but so far I haven't seen any Biafra map without SS . all. the map they have been drawing since this year, my land is still there.. cant they draw there map without including others who re not interested ?...

Biafra project is ALL ABOUT OIL AND SEA! I only laugh when I see proponents attempt to force people into their scheme but like 1967, it is COMPLETELY DEAD ON ARRIVAL!!!!! Its okay for them to wish though

divinehand2003:


Lol, I like your sense of reasoning. But are you sure these people would love to live together in the same nation?

they will infact the whole of Delta state will fall in sharply those folks do not trust the Ibos.

willow0802:


wasted youth!

yea because I don't fall for ur blackmail.. My position remains the same... We don't need Your B*****... Make una see ayo see wahala o shuo

TonyeBarcanista:

Biafra project is ALL ABOUT OIL AND SEA! I only laugh when I see proponents attempt to force people into their scheme but like 1967, it is COMPLETELY DEAD ON ARRIVAL!!!!! Its okay for them to wish though

Thank God we have Hausa and Fulani army who will balance the equation incase they want to use force on us..

Goodboiyy:



You don't get it... We don't want your Biafra ... na force again ?

Lemme explain how we feel anytime u include Our land in ur struggle..

If for example Youruba wants and Odua nation and in there map they included Anioma/igbo communities in SS, and wen anioma people confront Yoruba, The Yoruba were nw saying You must do a referendum , .. How do you think they (Anioma ) will feel ? That how we feel anytime u include Itsekiri, Urhobo, Ijaw, Isoko , e.t.c land inside ur greedy/selfish map... We don't want... Asin The thing don they vex me.. Can you stay without Us ?.. wat do we even have in common ?.. is it food ?, Language?, Thinking? Names ? guy abeg we don't need referendum.


The same way u need Biafra that's the same way we want Resource Control.. Tonyebarcanista might be 1 man opinion to u Folks from SE .. but Don't Be surprise wat we will do to u if u dare drag us into any greedy country ..

My brother, I think you're getting unnecessarily hysterical. Who're the "We" and who're the "You"? What makes you think I'm Southeast?

I will not say you're still a teen. But just so you know how the world works. When a people seek a separate State they must define their boundaries. Then a vote (referendum) is cast to ensure the voice of every adult within that proposed precinct is heard. During the period of the call for votes both the separatist state and the original state campaign to the people or peoples of the proposed separate state.

If at the end the votes fail (that is the people vote to remain in the union, as in Scotland recently), they remain and the agitation and the call for referendum ends sine dine until new reasons for separation (completely different from the previous) emerge and the people again seek self determination.

If however, a particular group within the proposed map reject secession they simply acced with the old union, or equally seek a separate state. Please refer to Yugoslovia on this point.

I give you an unbiased, and unpersonalised response on this issue. So don't insist I'm from the East or West Or North or South. For more than one year I've come to know Nairaland and its commonplace chauvinism, I have carefully kept my regional identity to myself.

Goodboiyy:


there u get it wrong... Did we tell u we want referendum ?.. Pls I need proof.. if no why re you then Forcing Your Referendum on us as if we asked for it .. Pls start your referendum in warri.. if u have 3% of our support then Biafra have it..

I don't like having conversation with stupid people....
But am forced to here because of the question I have for you.
1) please who are the we....kindly be specific and real...
2) why scared of a referendum when you know is the solution....?
3) in your acclaimed "we" are there not people in that entity as far as it is inside Biafra territory that wants to be recognised as biafrans...?
Or you wanna force them with you?
4) you said am forcing referendum on you why are you then advising me to have a refendum in warri to buy your support?
5) why being a hypocrite.?

Will reply you when you have the answers to my questions...
We will now judge who is getting it all wrong.

Goodboiyy:



You don't get it... We don't want your Biafra ... na force again ?

Lemme explain how we feel anytime u include Our land in ur struggle..

If for example Youruba wants and Odua nation and in there map they included Anioma/igbo communities in SS, and wen anioma people confront Yoruba, The Yoruba were nw saying You must do a referendum , .. How do you think they (Anioma ) will feel ? That how we feel anytime u include Itsekiri, Urhobo, Ijaw, Isoko , e.t.c land inside ur greedy/selfish map... We don't want... Asin The thing don they vex me.. Can you stay without Us ?.. wat do we even have in common ?.. is it food ?, Language?, Thinking? Names ? guy abeg we don't need referendum.


The same way u need Biafra that's the same way we want Resource Control.. Tonyebarcanista might be 1 man opinion to u Folks from SE .. but Don't Be surprise wat we will do to u if u dare drag us into any greedy country ..

At the bolded, of course.

No one is dragging anything with you Mr man. Why don't calm down and wait till whenever your opinion is truly needed, that is when you are to decide where you want to belong to? Because right now you are just constituting nuisance.

Just allow we igbos to continue deceiving ourselves, abi?!

Goodboiyy:


Thank God we have Hausa and Fulani army who will balance the equation incase they want to use force on us..

My brother, like I said, allow whoever wish to dream to dream. After all, Lagos was once declared a 'NO MAN's LAND'... It never changed its status!

ishiamu:


You no dey tire? How many times you go sing am? Still they keep putting it up maybe as a means of getting ya attention are there no other south south men here donphilopus etc, na only u go dey shout biafra like dey stole ya wife nawaoo

Tonye does not speak for the South-South. Every ethnic group speaks for themselves. Even within his Ijaw enclave he only speaks for himself. I will take the words of Joseph Evah a true Ijaw activist than an online warrior as Barca.
Folks like Evah, Asari and even Preye understands that for an Ijaw Niger-Delta Republic to become feasible, they must work hand in hand with the Igbos.

NOBLEDANDY:



Lol
My tummy ooo

1MCN:


My brother, I think you're getting unnecessarily hysterical. Who're the "We" and who're the "You"? What makes you think I'm Southeast?

I will not say you're still a teen. But just so you know how the world works. When a people seek a separate State they must define their boundaries. Then a vote (referendum) is cast to ensure the voice of every adult within that proposed precinct is heard. During the period of the call for votes both the separatist state and the original state campaign to the people or peoples of the proposed separate state.

If at the end the votes fail (that is the people vote to remain in the union, as in Scotland recently), they remain and the agitation and the call for referendum ends sine dine until new reasons for separation (completely different from the previous) emerge and the people again seek self determination.

If however, a particular group within the proposed map reject secession they simply acced with the old union, or equally seek a separate state. Please refer to Yugoslovia on this point.

I give you an unbiased, and unpersonalised response on this issue. So don't insist I'm from the East or West Or North or South. For more than one year I've come to know Nairaland and its commonplace chauvinism, I have carefully kept my regional identity to myself.

you still don't get it.. you only conduct a referendum wen the said people re interested in the new country.. but in this Biafra case we (Itsekiri, Urhobo/Isoko, Ijo, Edo, ogoni e.tc ) never told you we want to opt out of Nigeria.. All we have been fighting for is Resource Control.. so telling us we must conduct a referendum is like a insult to us.. Can you tell Yoruba To conduct Referendum in Your Biafra agitation ?.. If no y re u so bent on including SS minorities who dont give a Bleep about Biafra ? .. wen I say We I mean my people.. Anioma have made there Position known that they want Biafra as such I can't speak for them.. I hope u respect my decision

NOBLEDANDY:


I don't like having conversation with stupid people....
But am forced to here because of the question I have for you.
1) please who are the we....kindly be specific and real...
2) why scared of a referendum when you know is the solution....?
3) in your acclaimed "we" are there not people in that entity as far as it is inside Biafra territory that wants to be recognised as biafrans...?
Or you wanna force them with you?
4) you said am forcing referendum on you why are you then advising me to have a refendum in warri to buy your support?
5) why being a hypocrite.?

Will reply you when you have the answers to my questions...
We will now judge who is getting it all wrong.

don't have ur time.. Keep dreaming

Goodboiyy:




you still don't get it.. you only conduct a referendum wen the said people re interested in the new country.. but in this Biafra case we (Itsekiri, Urhobo/Isoko, Ijo, Edo, ogoni e.tc ) never told you we want to opt out of Nigeria.. All we have been fighting for is Resource Control.. so telling us we must conduct a referendum is like a insult to us.. Can you tell Yoruba To conduct Referendum in Your Biafra agitation ?.. If no y re u so bent on including SS minorities who dont give a Bleep about Biafra ? .. wen I say We I mean my people.. Anioma have made there Position known that they want Biafra as such I can't speak for them.. I hope u respect my decision

calm down, We Anioma nation will love a Federalised Nigeria and Anioma state but using Nnamdi Kanu issue to throw insult at the Igbo Tribe who are over 40million is just Disrespectul and Undiplomatic.

Eastlink:
Tonye does not speak for the South-South. Every ethnic group speaks for themselves. Even within his Ijaw enclave he only speaks for himself. I will take the words of Joseph Evah a true Ijaw activist than an online warrior as Barca.
Folks like Evah, Asari and even Preye understands that for an Ijaw Niger-Delta Republic to become feasible, they must work hand in hand with the Igbos.

@bolded point of correction.. They must learn to Work with other SS tribe not Igbo.. stop acting as if u re A God to Us..

Eastlink:
Tonye does not speak for the South-South. Every ethnic group speaks for themselves. Even within his Ijaw enclave he only speaks for himself. I will take the words of Joseph Evah a true Ijaw activist than an online warrior as Barca.
Folks like Evah, Asari and even Preye understands that for an Ijaw Niger-Delta Republic to become feasible, they must work hand in hand with the Igbos.

He keeps shouting here like he's the king in Ijaw nation... why not let elders decide?? he should focus on being successful than all this ethnic bullshit...

Ugomba:
calm down, We Anioma nation will love a Federalised Nigeria and Anioma state but using Nnamdi Kanu issue to throw insult at the Igbo Tribe who are over 40million is just Disrespectul and Undiplomatic.

sorry about the insult.. but u need to understand hw we feel about this Biafra stuff.. I made an example using anioma because they are the only Igbo group in SS who have show support for Biafra on this forum.. so I can't speak for u guys.. but my position is that Nigeria should be restructured, be truthful to yourselve on this issue, atleast u re a Deltan , True Federalism is wat we really want not Biafra..

@Goodboiy, you made a point. I never liked the idea of adding groups like Itshekiri into the Biafran project. Maybe a referendum will determine the people's real position. Either to remain in Nigeria or join an O'odua or Edoid republic.

divinehand2003:
Lol, I just came across this map showing the provinces of Biafra. Check it out NL and air your views about it.

the fact that ibos are in some south south states doesn't mke de state a Belgian state....well keep dreaming....dreams come true

Eastlink:
@Goodboiy, you made a point. I never liked the idea of adding groups like Itshekiri into the Biafran project. Maybe a referendum will determine the people's real position. Either to remain in Nigeria or join an O'odua or Edoid republic.

This Is not about itsekiri.. its about knowing the truth.. not the lies been preached by Kalu.. Biafra is not the way out for us..let's restructure Nigeria.. this is my stand