jasysandra:


If you dont like the way they do things, DONT JOIN! Dont entice others not to.

Of cos I neva made any statement dat suggest odas not to join, but u did

Dear op,

Much has been posted About your dilemma.

Two or three things are obvious from your op.

The first obvious thing is that your uncle cares deeply about you, and aside from looking after you financially, he wants to mold you into a sovereign thinking man.
He is trying to show you a path towards self-actualization by way of self- discovery.

The second thing that is obvious is that you are not ready, or do not consider yourself ready for the discipline and mental rigors of self- discovery and self-actualization.
In that regards, no one can force or even persuade you.

Therefore, at this time, I suggest you politely decline.
It is either you have the inner stirring or you don't.

I personally believe that seekers are born, not made.

jasysandra:


It is very unlikely that you are a good Christian, if you are one at all.

Having established that, I'd proceed to say that your post and the previous one lacked paragraphing, juncture features, cohesion and coherence. I was still able to deduce your point because I strenuously read through it. There is nothing more to that! Work on your verbal presentation on public forums such as this.

AMORC degrees, like I said, are recognised only within AMORC. AMORC has a University known as the Rose-Croix University International (RCUI), an open University. Members degrees are recognised in this University and are used to appoint lecturers. Going to school or through a school, any school at all, must not be to get a job. That is the mediocre mentality killing Nigeria today. Learning is fun! It is adventurous and enjoyable. Making money off knowledge is the reason why AMORC is not free for all and sundry so that people with such a mentality as you cannot find their way in easily.

AMORC is NOT a RELIGION so saying AMORC is my "all and all" is fallacious because I have a religious life outside of AMORC. AMORC is mainly an organisation I am affiliated with!


I hope you are now well educated on this.?

wow! Didnt know this is now an "Englsih" class and no longer "AMORC lessons" and i'd have to cross all my t's and dot my i's and also really pay attention to typos...
Like seriously did you also learn to be so petty in AMORC too?
Anyways,you"ve been tryna use this cheap ploy of yours as a sort of digression but let me clear it once and for all so we can start dealing with logical facts which it seems to me you"re quite handicapped when it comes to such issues hence your need for a sort of digression from typos error to paragraph corrections,thats rather too cheap!
If you had to strain to understand what i have written that means you"re really quite slow in comprehension,learning and understanding and thats quite pathetic coming from someone who claims to be "All knowing"therefore you dont stand a chance correcting my posts!
I still maintain my premise on perception and your ploy to drag me into all this your mumbo jumbo of AMORC thing's not gonna work. As a matter of fact,i barely had the time to scan through the "mumbo jumbo" because i dont have an iota of interest so it's not going to impress me plus its a complete waste of my time. I simply dont have the time and patience to bicker over this whole "amorc" thing because that will be paying undue relevance to something that means nothing to me...
Hope you wont have to rack your brain to make sense of the posts now,because i will have no other option but to declare you a slowpoke
That being said,maybe we should have different sections on this our engagement for "english lessons" and "Amorc lessons",because you seem to get the two all mixed up to avoid confusing you more....

greatnaija01:


IS IT TILL HE SHOWS YOU SATAN THAT YOU KNOW? MY DEAR SATAN DOES THESE THINGS TOO.............. THE BIBLE SAYS IT IS BY FRUIT WE KNOW O.... ASK HIM WHY AMORC DOES NOT ASSOCIATE WITH OTHER CHURCHES, ASK YOUR CHURCH ELDERS WHAT AMORC IS? ITS YOUR CHOICE. BYE

If by their fruits we know them, it simply means a bad tree cannot bear a good fruit, and vice versa. The uncle's fruit are good.

@op, it is a very good invitation. What's more, there is free entry and free exit in AMORC.

@all, let's us all be open-minded. The only difference I observe in both Amorc and Christianity is that in former, you will think twice before you harm a living being, even plants. While in the latter, we can easily get forgiven because we believe Yeheshua had died even for the sin we are planning to commit tomorrow.

May God help us.

jasysandra:


Lol. . When it comes to AMORC debates, I live for it! An old Rosicrucian once said, no real Rosicrucian can call himself one if he hasn't verbally fought for AMORC! Whenever your "vibe-killing network" comes back, I am waiting for your intellectual engagements!

Eyah,its such a pity i dont share the same passion with you on this whole "amorc thing" because it's not gonna be of any benefit or relevance to me whatsoever!
You live for amorc debates;i dont! I maintain my opinion and you can keep your convictions and the op can make his decision.
Maybe whenever you come up with something "i live for",then maybe we can have some intellectual engagements Until then i believe i have paid so much undue attention and relevance to this discourse and have not seen any benefit from it whatsoever!
What a waste of time and precious MB...

selfmadeOLX:


You see.. This "believe what you want to believe lemme believe what I want to believe" is actually satans theme.. And he gas given you an anthem to always recite when ever there is a contradiction "the war thing" lol

Everyone is special.. Thats why as filth ad we are in our sins, Jesus saw value in us and gave his life not for the church, but for the whole world.. John 3:16 explains that quite well.

I respect peoples believe.. Culture, tradition or religion..! 100% but that does not make it the truth..
And not accepting it does not make me a war practitioner.

Thats why I said. There is but one truth and not many truths..
Work on that..!

And for you to call Christianity a religion.. Chai lwkm.. It seals the fact that you need saving.. Seriously

Why do you feel your path is even the better one?

Don't be egoistic! Learn to tolerate the views of others.
And I'll keep saying it, CHRISTIANITY IS A RELIGION!

Believe what you may but don't be delusional and don't impose it on others. It makes you sound unwell mentally. I wish you well!

greatnaija01:


WHO IS THIS ONE SEF, IS RELIGION NOT A BATTLE OF GOD N SATAN? OR DO YOU STILL THINK THERE IS MORE THAN ONE GOD?............. IF ITS NOT THE TRUE AND LIVING GOD THEN ITS SATAN

Sharrap there! Next thing u will want him to come to your church! @OP people will always criticise what they don't understand due to ignorance!
I don't know about Amorc but I do know that a person shouldn't be judged by where he or she worships be it Islam, Christian or mbala mbala! But the quality of life you live is what judges you, so if u say this man lives an admirable life then there maybe something for u to learn from him besides joining Amorc.

He sounds like a good man and I am sure he will understand your decision without holding any grudges so pls think it through then boldly let him know your decision.

There are good and bad people everywhere, but never let material comfort be a reason for associating with anyone.

Just first of all study and investigate this Amorc, don't rely on hearsay! Check it out, if it's not something u agree with the boldly explain yourself to him! Just never ever make any decision based on assumptions

OLUJOSHINS:




my dear, AMORC no be church oooo


NA CULT OOOOO


Na ordinary facade be all that Jesus poster U see lying about

I won't correct your first statements because we are already done with that.

However, AMORC DOESN'T USE POSTERS OF JESUS CHRIST ANYWHERE. AMORC is not a CHRISTIAN group! Just get that and go through this thread critically.

lestat:


Sharrap there! Next thing u will want him to come to your church! @OP people will always criticise what they don't understand due to ignorance!
I don't know about Amorc but I do know that a person shouldn't be judged by where he or she worships be it Islam, Christian or mbala mbala! But the quality of life you live is what judges you, so if u say this man lives an admirable life then there maybe something for u to learn from him besides joining Amorc.

He sounds like a good man and I am sure he will understand your decision without holding any grudges so pls think it through then boldly let him know your decision.

There are good and bad people everywhere, but never let material comfort be a reason for associating with anyone.

Just first of all study and investigate this Amorc, don't rely on hearsay! Check it out, if it's not something u agree with the boldly explain yourself to him! Just never ever make any decision based on assumptions

Thanks for saying this.

Kposkila:


Of cos I neva made any statement dat suggest odas not to join, but u did

Please quote where exactly I did that.

feaworaoja007:
wow! Didnt know this is now an "Englsih" class and no longer "AMORC lessons" and i'd have to cross all my t's and dot my i's and also really pay attention to typos...
Like seriously did you also learn to be so petty in AMORC too?
Anyways,you"ve been tryna use this cheap ploy of yours as a sort of digression but let me clear it once and for all so we can start dealing with logical facts which it seems to me you"re quite handicapped when it comes to such issues hence your need for a sort of digression from typos error to paragraph corrections,thats rather too cheap!
If you had to strain to understand what i have written that means you"re really quite slow in comprehension,learning and understanding and thats quite pathetic coming from someone who claims to be "All knowing"therefore you dont stand a chance correcting my posts!
I still maintain my premise on perception and your ploy to drag me into all this your mumbo jumbo of AMORC thing's not gonna work. As a matter of fact,i barely had the time to scan through the "mumbo jumbo" because i dont have an iota of interest so it's not going to impress me plus its a complete waste of my time. I simply dont have the time and patience to bicker over this whole "amorc" thing because that will be paying undue relevance to something that means nothing to me...
Hope you wont have to rack your brain to make sense of the posts now,because i will have no other option but to declare you a slowpoke
That being said,maybe we should have different sections on this our engagement for "english lessons" and "Amorc lessons",because you seem to get the two all mixed up to avoid confusing you more....

I hope you do know you were just rambling all through your post? You never said anything concrete other than suspecting digressions and attacking my person and so I won't delight you with a response to your verbal duel. As a Rosicrucian, I won't come down to your level and allow you win me there with experience. So I'm out. Please serve Jesus right and you won't be as ****** as you are

By the way, you really improved in your verbal organisation and mechanics! I'm proud of you

feaworaoja007:
Eyah,its such a pity i dont share the same passion with you on this whole "amorc thing" because it's not gonna be of any benefit or relevance to me whatsoever!
You live for amorc debates;i dont! I maintain my opinion and you can keep your convictions and the op can make his decision.
Maybe whenever you come up with something "i live for",then maybe we can have some intellectual engagements Until then i believe i have paid so much undue attention and relevance to this discourse and have not seen any benefit from it whatsoever!
What a waste of time and precious MB...

If you had the same passion about your faith as I do about my organisation, you won't even be on this thread to begin with! So yes, go and live for your messiah or God rather than concocting invectives here. If you keep doing this, you'd keep wasting your free MB

plaetton:
Dear op,

Much has been posted About your dilemma.

Two or three things are obvious from your op.

The first obvious thing is that your uncle cares deeply about you, and aside from looking after you financially, he wants to mold you into a sovereign thinking man.
He is trying to show you a path towards self-actualization by way of self- discovery.

The second thing that is obvious is that you are not ready, or do not consider yourself ready for the discipline and mental rigors of self- discovery and self-actualization.
In that regards, no one can force or even persuade you.

Therefore, at this time, I suggest you politely decline.
It is either you have the inner stirring or you don't.

I personally believe that seekers are born, not made.

Pp.

bigneorapz:
so to practice what's in the menograph is now satanic to u?..do u even know what is metaphysics? This bible thing has really affected ur sense of reason no disrespect, but u still got alot to learn. Stop condemin people's organisation

my dear mataphysicsis associted with metaphysical.I have travelled out of yor subconcous mind before? Bros please don't join, seek the faces christ

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I hope you do know you were just rambling all through your post? You never said anything concrete other than suspecting digressions and attacking my person and so I won't delight you with a response to your verbal duel. As a Rosicrucian, I won't come down to your level and allow you win me there with experience. So I'm out. Please serve Jesus right and you won't be as ****** as you are

By the way, you really improved in your verbal organisation and mechanics! I'm proud of you (quote] lol,does it take 6hours to improve on verbal organisations and mechanics?if it does,i must be a super dupa learner therefore you got nothing on me!
It just goes a long way to show that i didnt really have the time or value your passionate discourse to pay attention to details,because if i had such time and patience, you wouldnt even have any digression to save ur inability to make logical sense and reason!
Now that i have paid attention to details,you wanna digress to"ramblings"...pst, guess its rambling to you because you couldnt get your warped brain to make sense out of it!
Rambling to you cos of ur inability to make sense out of it;to others i believe it"ll make perfect sense!
You"re simply aint built for discourse like this!
You"ll probably need to pay more attention to conventional education and learning than your amorc orientation,cos you really come out so off;u"ll also probably be needing a dog chain, strait jacket and medication soon if care is not taken!
NB: my posts/quotes doesnt seem to be coming out right! Manage am like that,it"ll keep you busy! Dont have time to sort it out for you! Sori,cant spoonfeed you this time...

lawrenzojacuzzi:
my dear mataphysicsis associted with metaphysical.I have travelled out of yor subconcous mind before? Bros please don't join, seek the faces christ

Have you done what you said now before?
This isn't The Chronicles of Narnia

jasysandra:


If you had the same passion about your faith as I do about my organisation, you won't even be on this thread to begin with! So yes, go and live for your messiah or God rather than concocting invectives here. If you keep doing this, you'd keep wasting your free MB

what i"m saying in essense is that this passionate discourse of yours is not even worth free MB just like you rightly said!
But i dont mind using it to enlighten an obsinate stray soul that has managed to get her finger on the kepads of a phone!
Just like the parable of the lost coin or lost sheep;i deem it my duty find you and bring you back b4 you literally go astray!

feaworaoja007:
what i"m saying in essense is that this passionate discourse of your is not even worth free MB just like you rightly said!
But i dont mind using it to enlighten an obsinate stray soul that has managed to get her finger on the kepads of a phone!

Please learn to spell well. Don't use cumbersome lexical items without learning their spellings sir.

That said, SHALOM!

jasysandra:


Please learn to spell well. Don't use cumbersome lexical items without learning their spellings sir.

That said, SHALOM!

there we go again!
That petty typo digression!
Mtshew! You no get talk! Lock!

OLUJOSHINS:







my guy, Ur friend has not told U the full part of the story ooooooo


U are just seeing a facade

Are you a member?

jasysandra:



Pp.

Pp.

judedwriter:
Op life is too short to waste because of money... D Love of money is root of unimaginable evil- stay clear from the occult-YOU ARE WARNED!

And in my own words "Lack of Money is the Root of all Evil"..Whether you like it or not..every one does love money..There only exist varying degrees

craziebone:


amorc members drink blood? My dear why don't you just shut up already!!!

I have no problem with your comment except the duration..25yrs ago, Nigeria was in the darkness and lots of false knowledge n superstitions existed..wearing rings with rose embedded in a triangle as symbols and so what? Every organization has a symbol that depicts it from the rest

jasysandra:


Please this is a fraud. No one should fall for it.

Lol.

If it looks like a rat, smells like a rat and squeaks like a rat, then it is most likely a rat.

jasysandra:


Please this is a fraud. No one should fall for it.

I checked the website, and addresses are in 3 major form, the chapter, Lodge and pronaoi, have downloaded the form and I could see remittance which is also required with the form. Please, is there a way we can chat.

McTobe:
@ poster I don't understand how wealth is a karmic burden. I will rather say that wealth can either ennoble u or drag down the spirit thereby forming a negative karma. u may wish to elucidate more on how wealth is a karmaic burden on its own.

Wealth can be a karmic burden because you tend to want more and hence live in its illusion. Take a look at most wealthy men. Even Jesus said it would be hard for a wealthy man to enter into the kingdom of God. Wealth is not bad, but how many can have self mastery over having such power and can acquire any material thing on this materialistic plane.

Even Bill Gate, a Freemason, has realized this and has assigned a huge portion of his wealth to charities and is now chasing a cause for the betterment of this world.

Nothing is wrong with acquiring wealth, it is just how you use it that matters. In your quest of acquiring wealth, you may be doing the universe a great disservice

McTobe:
@ poster I don't understand how wealth is a karmic burden. I will rather say that wealth can either ennoble u or drag down the spirit thereby forming a negative karma. u may wish to elucidate more on how wealth is a karmaic burden on its own.

This is the kind of discussion we should be having rather than which religion is supreme than the other. I studied this thread and shook my head. The OP was asking a question and some pretentious people who think they are Christians jumped into the thread to cast more fear into his troubled heart. How many of these pretentious people know about Jesus, that they pretentiously claim to love. How many of them know and truly understand the GOD concept. When you ask them simple logical questions, they rush to quote a book written by men.

Religion is a huge problem and has outlived its usefulness. GOD must be experienced and not read about. You have to experience GOD before you even start your spiritual race. Jesus has said it GOD is spirit and must be worshiped in spirit and in truth - that is a logical truth, but your Christian leaders has twisted that logical truth staring right in your face. I will repeat again, you do not read about GOD to know IT. You must experience GOD and when you do, nothing in this world, no book, no fallacies or pastors will ever deceive you again.

Let's stop these pretentious excuses offered freely on this thread and concentrate on how we can truly experience GOD. I would concluded again - many are called, but a few are chosen. Are you the few and when I mean few, I mean very very very very few.

oluwabuse:
I checked the website, and addresses are in 3 major form, the chapter, Lodge and pronaoi, have downloaded the form and I could see remittance which is also required with the form. Please, is there a way we can chat.

Please send me an email.

bigneorapz:
Hi nairalanders, please i have something that is really disturbing me of which am not sure if it's a good move or not. I have a very rich uncle that is a member of the AMORC ( Ancient Mystical Order Rosae Crucis)
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and he's the only one helpin me at the moment in all the things in life both in school and outside school. Without him i'll be useless financially. My mum and my sisters are all christian in a methodist church of which am also a member. But just yesterday, my uncle came to me and told me to start coming with him to the AMORC temple..infact he said he was going to bring me a student form to fill. Please nairalanders..i'm confused at the moment. I learn that amorc members read alot of which i don't like & they have so many principle too. Please what do y'all think of this? Is it a good church for me to be a part of or should i just tell him to his face that am not interested? Please before u make your suggestion, just know that am scared of turning down his offers due to much respect i have for him..thanks. Lalasticlala please help move this to the F.P

Please my adverse for u is that, just make he understand that u can't be a member if amorc, becos u are a christian.
The aspert u uncle make u believe in christ is false. Ecos dey can never believe that Jesus Christ is there Lord and personer Saviou.but they can twll the full bible story and dey are very good in dsoing hands given. Please just b wise.