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Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Kimoni: 11:18pm On May 01, 2016
raumdeuter:
Kimoni

I saw this post by a female handle on a thread on homepage
What do you think about that viewpoint


I agree totally with the first paragraph. A man is the natural provider in the home and he shouldn't push that responsibility permanently and/or totally to the woman.

When a man stops providing due to uncontrollable reasons, it doesn't reduce or stop the woman's love; in contrast, she'll gladly step into the man's shoes to cover her husband's "unclothedness". But it becomes a problem when she is not getting the required support from her husband esp. as regards to her wifely duties. Taking up a role meant for 2 persons would put pressure on her and if she is the type that cannot soak in pressure for too long, she starts to react. And the world would see it as pride undecided Again, the man too would start to feel insecure about himself and pass the frustrations on to the already pressurized wife. Result - two disoriented persons = scattered home.
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Kimoni: 11:23pm On May 01, 2016
Dayo, I just saw the T square pix. This is the primary reason I believe they'll get back together. They have this deep and genuie love for each other. It's just some character flaws here and there and yes, the guy needs to get a job.
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by raumdeuter: 11:24pm On May 01, 2016
oyb:


OUCH

So bros what do you think?
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by raumdeuter: 11:31pm On May 01, 2016
Kimoni:
I agree totally with the first paragraph. A man is the natural provider in the home and he shouldn't push that responsibility permanently and/or totally to the woman.

When a man stops providing due to uncontrollable reasons, it doesn't reduce or stop the woman's love; in contrast, she'll gladly step into the man's shoes to cover her husband's "unclothedness". But it becomes a problem when she is not getting the required support from her husband esp. as regards to her wifely duties. Taking up a role meant for 2 persons would put pressure on her and if she is the type that cannot soak in pressure for too long, she starts to react. And the world would see it as pride undecided Again, the man too would start to feel insecure about himself and pass the frustrations on to the already pressurized wife. Result - two disoriented persons = scattered home.

I agree with you.

If your husband for whatever reason cant get a job where you are, Would you prefer to be the provider and have him home or rather have him travel and come home 3 days every 3months but still send money home
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by TV01(m): 11:43pm On May 01, 2016
Kimoni:
Dayo, I just saw the T square pix. This is the primary reason I believe they'll get back together. They have this deep and genuie love for each other. It's just some character flaws here and there and yes, the guy needs to get a job.
There has been a lot of water under the bridge. Harsh and wounding words have been said - and in public. some of those allegations eh?How mature and composed are the couple to see this?

Are the people who surround and advise them more concerned about the brand or the union? As bad as it is, could it escalate still? And most of all, "when a womans mind is made up"...

Hmmm...


TV
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by raumdeuter: 11:45pm On May 01, 2016
Kimoni:
Dayo, I just saw the T square pix. This is the primary reason I believe they'll get back together. They have this deep and genuie love for each other. It's just some character flaws here and there and yes, the guy needs to get a job.

Investing on Tiwa at that time was a huge risk as many people of her similar talents have failed in the industry. For him to take the gamble on her when nothing about her was guaranteed shows he probably liked her genuinely until the money issue happened. Proably her own love was based on getting a leverage to get ahead in life

Women who claimed they made a man, suffered with a man most didnt do up to this for anyone. This is just like those Ibo boys in Alaba who sponsor the village chic to University and get dumped later on.

I believe they'll probably get back to fucckinnggg each other based on Okafors theory but I doubt they can survive in a marriage regardless. Neither of them seemed made for a normal marriage
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by A40(m): 12:38am On May 02, 2016
TV01:

Listen, one doesn't know enough to become married, one is mature enough to. One does not need to overly worry about people changing, if one marries based on character.

What I said first time holds; be a person of character, understand marriage and have a vision for your home. Find someone who is mature and understanding. She should hopefully be of like mind, or at least grasp your vision and embrace it. It's that, and a studied commitment to the union - from you both - that will mean you skip over any hurdles.

Lot's of people have a myriad of fears making them hesitate, and there are so many myths and notions that put doubt in peoples mind. I know, because I had to be freed from a number of them grin. While there may not be a template, there's a well worn roadmap and some essentials that will stand you in good stead.

Not only do you not really need luck, like a fight, you can do all the hard work before the get into the ring, and it can be plain sailing. People talk as if getting married is the start of a demanding and extremely hard task, it's not, it can be deeply fulfilling and blissfully happy - I know because I live it. See it and get yours.

All the best dude.


TV

...almost all the woes and issues you hear about in marriage will stem from character, understanding or vision. Get those right and half-arsed reasons and sorry-ass excuses will be far from you...

Thank you Sensei. I think character is important and also someone that shares your ideas or is at least tolerant to them. Two cannot walk unless they agree that quote I hold am very tight. You would be suprised to see the people that don't agree eventually and this is what really scares me.

The person might be everything you thought you would ever need physically and even emotionally but certain issues come up and they just fall your hand

I had a very interesting debate with two ladies on Twitter about the roles of a man and woman in marriage as regards their financial responsibility. Which is amusing because neither one of us is married but their stance kind of hinged on how it went in the days of their fathers. Cute busty and supposedly exposed girls I might add

As a married ninja do you think the financial roles should overlap? Should there be a strict rule on who spends where? To my dismay I saw a woman say she would never pay or contribute school fees or rent in the marriage. This was the origin of the debate btw. I was called T-BILLZ hehehe grin cheesy even though I have never collected a babe's penny

I was genuinely alarmed though that a woman would be proud in this modern day and age to say they did not contribute a penny to their children's education
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by raumdeuter: 12:50am On May 02, 2016
Actually many threads have been open in the family section with working women questioning and upset that they have to contribute to their own children school fees

Ask them their idea of modernity its to take the benefits and leave out the responsibility
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by TV01(m): 1:21am On May 02, 2016
A40:
Thank you Sensei. I think character is important and also someone that shares your ideas or is at least tolerant to them. Two cannot walk unless they agree that quote I hold am very tight. You would be suprised to see the people that don't agree eventually and this is what really scares me.
No probs. To be honest, I find it extremely difficult to imagine anything we could disagree over to a great degree, let alone split over. It's all in the foundation. It's why a shared and deeply held world-view really helps.

In fact, demonstrate high moral integrity, show tactical nous and strategic thinking, she will absorb it and start to think like you. Sometimes when my wife speaks it like I'm talking to myself. I'll be thinking "why is this woman parroting me" - but that's the fruit of my patience and labour cool. And it's not work to hold it together, it's to move us forward.

A40:
The person might be everything you thought you would ever need physically and even emotionally but certain issues come up and they just fall your hand
But yes, I suppose sometimes thorny issues can crop up, and despite your alertness, blindside you out of left field. At such times, remembering the commitment and the vision will help. A lot of goodwill builds up over time and that's also a great help.

Funnily enough trauma may not even be due to behaviour. None of our challenges - and we've had them - have been down to conduct (at least for me sha grin). But what they have done is tighten those bonds.

A40:
I had a very interesting debate with two ladies on Twitter about the roles of a man and woman in marriage as regards their financial responsibility. Which is amusing because neither one of us is married but their stance kind of hinged on how it went in the days of their fathers. Cute busty and supposedly exposed girls I might add
Important for general understanding, but in a sense, a moot point. The only one who counts is "her".

A40:
As a married ninja do you think the financial roles should overlap? Should there be a strict rule on who spends where? To my dismay I saw a woman say she would never pay or contribute school fees or rent in the marriage. This was the origin of the debate btw. I was called T-BILLZ hehehe grin cheesy even though I have never collected a babe's penny
Financial roles are subject to discussion - your headship is not wink. Whatever their income, I suggest couples pool and jointly plan (I'm leaving out nuance here).

Funny, that's what we do grin, but it's situationally driven, not due to tradition. My wife knows everything I have, all that comes in and where it goes. I always put her and the kids first. Consequently she can't and doesn't pressure me. And in the sense that we utilise both incomes to our maximum benefit, the roles overlap.

A40:
I was genuinely alarmed though that a woman would be proud in this modern day and age to say they did not contribute a penny to their children's education
The burden to perform, the expectation to deliver is always the mans - don't ever think otherwise.


TV

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Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by bellong: 1:35am On May 02, 2016
Kimoni:



I agree totally with the first paragraph. A man is the natural provider in the home and he shouldn't push that responsibility permanently and/or totally to the woman.

When a man stops providing due to uncontrollable reasons, it doesn't reduce or stop the woman's love; in contrast, she'll gladly step into the man's shoes to cover her husband's "unclothedness". But it becomes a problem when she is not getting the required support from her husband esp. as regards to her wifely duties. Taking up a role meant for 2 persons would put pressure on her and if she is the type that cannot soak in pressure for too long, she starts to react. And the world would see it as pride undecided .

Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by A40(m): 1:52am On May 02, 2016
raumdeuter:


Actually many threads have been open in the family section with working women questioning and upset that they have to contribute to their own children school fees

Ask them their idea of modernity its to take the benefits and leave out the responsibility
Was a real eye-opener. One even said she can loan the money but I would have to pay her beck. For our child's SCHOOL FEES cheesy grin grin

So if man no dey their children will not go to school?

With these kind of women around marriage go dey alright
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by A40(m): 2:12am On May 02, 2016
TV01:


Important for general understanding, but in a sense, a moot point. The only one who counts is "her".
True. Just amusing that in this day and age people are not adjusting to the reality of the times we are in

TV01:
Financial roles are subject to discussion - your headship is not wink. Whatever their income, I suggest couples pool and jointly plan (I'm leaving out nuance here).
To some anything monetary is solely the man's responsibility. Spending is and should be their only contribution

TV01:

Funny, that's what we do grin, but it's situationally driven, not due to tradition. My wife knows everything I have, all that comes in and where it goes. I always put her and the kids first. Consequently she can't and doesn't pressure me. And in the sense that we utilise both incomes to our maximum benefit, the roles overlap.
For me I believe there should be no boundaries, Ideally if you are buoyant enough as the man you should settle all the bills. However in the event that you are not I don't think there is a need to beg your life partner to play a role in a venture in which she is also a stakeholder. I don't like it when people have a close mind when it comes to these things. Do not feel like you are doing your husband a favor especially if its on a temporary basis


TV01:

The burden to perform, the expectation to deliver is always the mans - don't ever think otherwise.

TV
It always is but a woman is supposed to be the Helpmate for a reason. Might as well get a surrogate mother than a woman who thinks contributing to her children's education is a taboo
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by raumdeuter: 2:58am On May 02, 2016
My view about finances is always that 2 is always better than 1. If alone I can afford 3 bedroom in Surulere and a above average school, I would expect my partner to add to it regardless and up our standard to Lekki and to a very good school. Thats why I married a working woman and not just a stay at home. Thats why both of us went to school and have careers

Dont wait till I cant afford Surulere again before you now pitch into Surulere rent.

The improved standard of life is to both of our benefit and to the kids we have jointly. Alone I can afford Surulere, Alone she can afford Gbagada, now if we combine together both finances should be able to afford a place greater than Surulere and Gbagada.
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by tpiah01: 5:35am On May 02, 2016
Why for God's sake are you people perenially gathered here to discuss other people's lives?

Most of you are not married, have no plans to marry, or prefer baby mamas to actual marriage, yet you are discussing other peoples' children?

My goodness!

Please discuss your own kids and let others be. Is that too hard?
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Kimoni: 7:06am On May 02, 2016
raumdeuter:


I agree with you.

If your husband for whatever reason cant get a job where you are, Would you prefer to be the provider and have him home or rather have him travel and come home 3 days every 3months but still send money home

Temporarily, i'll gladly take up his role. If it's getting too long, he needs to go the extra mile to get that job and that includes traveling physical miles. "A man has to do what a man has got to do" (in my American accent). Lol
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Kimoni: 7:09am On May 02, 2016
raumdeuter:
My view about finances is always that 2 is always better than 1. If alone I can afford 3 bedroom in Surulere and a above average school, I would expect my partner to add to it regardless and up our standard to Lekki and to a very good school. Thats why I married a working woman and not just a stay at home. Thats why both of us went to school and have careers

Dont wait till I cant afford Surulere again before you now pitch into Surulere rent.

The improved standard of life is to both of our benefit and to the kids we have jointly. Alone I can afford Surulere, Alone she can afford Gbagada, now if we combine together both finances should be able to afford a place greater than Surulere and Gbagada.

You married a working woman with her earnings as part of the consideration undecided Nope, her earnings is a bonus to the family. Bonuses are solely at the discretion of the receipent. If any woman hears that statement from a guy before marriage, she should run as fast as her legs can carry her. cheesy
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Kimoni: 7:14am On May 02, 2016
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grin cheesy cheesy grin grin grin

I usually do no trespass and don't even enjoy it but sometimes, situations demand I do but good news is, I don't make it permanent. The owner must return so I can vacate by fire by force.
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Kimoni: 7:33am On May 02, 2016
TV01:

There has been a lot of water under the bridge. Harsh and wounding words have been said - and in public. some of those allegations eh?How mature and composed are the couple to see this?

Are the people who surround and advise them more concerned about the brand or the union? As bad as it is, could it escalate still? And most of all, "when a womans mind is made up"...

Hmmm...
TV


You are right TV. Left to the couple, I believe they want to and they may end up getting back together. I have no doubt about that. True love does not fade like that. But my fear is - some people have been dragged into this mess and may be demanding blood right now. If they are powerful enough, they will be part of the major reasons why the couple may not get back.

Secondly, are they bold and strong enough to face the public and tell us "guys, we squashed all our beefs, we're back together again". Especially the lady, can she face the judgemental public? And the naysayers who will continue to haunt her as a "suffering and smiling wife"?

If they can rise above this and work on their character defects, there is nothing new about all issues they highlighted, no reason why they shouldn't get back if they want to. A o riru eleyi ri, a fin doro ba eleru ni...
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Nobody: 7:34am On May 02, 2016
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A40:

Was a real eye-opener. One even said she can loan the money but I would have to pay her beck. For our child's SCHOOL FEES cheesy grin grin

So if man no dey their children will not go to school?

With these kind of women around marriage go dey alright

Please don't believe everything you are told
Some just say silly things to form "enlightened"
If the man is going through financial difficulty then Let the kids stay at home if they wont put their money towards their own kids school fees.
Are they not her kids too? or are they my kids? as if on graduation day wont she tie her gele and say my son, my daughter?
If I was a man, I would never respect a woman who cant stand in the gap when I am unavailable.

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Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Kimoni: 7:41am On May 02, 2016
damiso:


Aunty e rora o cheesy


grin grin grin grin naijababe dey para seriously grin

I agree with tearoses summary. She made one mistake, she has realized and admitted same - problem is half solved.
He made several mistakes, he hasn't realized, still in denial and still blaming everyone but himself - problems remains.
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Nobody: 7:42am On May 02, 2016
TV01:


Financial roles are subject to discussion - your headship is not wink. Whatever their income, I suggest couples pool and jointly plan (I'm leaving out nuance here).

Funny, that's what we do grin, but it's situationally driven, not due to tradition. My wife knows everything I have, all that comes in and where it goes. I always put her and the kids first. Consequently she can't and doesn't pressure me. And in the sense that we utilise both incomes to our maximum benefit, the roles overlap.

TV

Thank you TV for making it loud and clear
Two in agreement financially is better than one
It also helps you plan better and utilise resources better
What can be achieved together by being in agreement couldn't have done singularly
I know exactly how much is available and how much coming in, so I know how to wisely utilise what we have.
I wont ask for something we don't have but rather work with what we do have unless i want him to steal or carry drugs.
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Nobody: 7:49am On May 02, 2016
raumdeuter:
My view about finances is always that 2 is always better than 1. If alone I can afford 3 bedroom in Surulere and a above average school, I would expect my partner to add to it regardless and up our standard to Lekki and to a very good school. Thats why I married a working woman and not just a stay at home. Thats why both of us went to school and have careers

Dont wait till I cant afford Surulere again before you now pitch into Surulere rent.

The improved standard of life is to both of our benefit and to the kids we have jointly. Alone I can afford Surulere, Alone she can afford Gbagada, now if we combine together both finances should be able to afford a place greater than Surulere and Gbagada.

Only just saw this post
You are absolutely right and that's they way I view it too.
one plus one equals two
Very simple

The problem is that many women are scared to pitch all their eggs in one basket and to trust the man 100% due to a number of different reasons
which brings me back to what coach TV01 always says
Marry Right!!!
Then half of these insecurities and fears wont be there
Invest in the right man/woman then all you need to do is simple maintenance.
Save up and buy a good car that will serve you, than rush out to buy a jalopy banger that you will be repairing every 5 minutes.
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Kimoni: 7:52am On May 02, 2016
tearoses:
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Please don't believe everything you are told
Some just say silly things to form "enlightened"
If the man is going through financial difficulty then Let the kids stay at home if they wont put their money towards their own kids school fees.
Are they not her kids too? or are they my kids? as if on graduation day wont she tie her gele and say my son, my daughter?
If I was a man, I would never respect a woman who cant stand in the gap when I am unavailable.


Hahahahahahaha I have not read and don't know where A40 is coming from but just want to quickly make this distinction.

Tearoses, 'enlightened' women are the ones who actually believe a woman can step into a man's role, temporarily or permanently. They don't mind being the breadwinner while their husbands become househusbands. I'm sure this is the new generation way of thinking. However, women who still believe in role segregation are termed 'traditional' and 'unenlightened'.

Concerning Dayo's post, let's not even get too theoretical. So in this Tsquare's case, they should have combined funds right? Tearoses/Dayo, what do you think would have happened to the joint account if they both had one?

Tearoses, i'm trying hard not to apportion blames to this couple but one of Tiwa's errors is taking up her husband's responsibility for too long. She asked for pampers money too late in the day. She should have been asking him to fulfill his responsibilities from day one. Not when you realise he still has enough money for hotel bills and posh cars. You have to force some men to fulfill their responsibility(guys, kill me for this but it's true), they may not like it initially, and may not like you for it, but they will never accuse you of taking their "manhood" from them. And that ego which matters to them a lot remains intact.

Let's not get too theoretical with these things ma'am. Real people, real issues, real solutions. What works wonders in A's home will turn a disaster if applied in B's home. Tailor made solutions for every family.
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Nobody: 7:54am On May 02, 2016
Kimoni:


You married a working woman with her earnings as part of the consideration undecided Nope, her earnings is a bonus to the family. Bonuses are solely at the discretion of the receipent. If any woman hears that statement from a guy before marriage, she should run as fast as her legs can carry her. cheesy

I disagree ma tongue grin
What are her earnings for?
Dayo has talked about accommodation and kids school fees
Accommodation that she will live in and enjoy and throw house parties cool
......and school fees for her own kids, not dayos brothers kids
If He said he wants her money to buy designer shirts and a rolex, then that's different.
She is putting money down for a lifestyle that she will enjoy.
What is the point of keeping money in her account if they are living in gbagada but if she puts something down, they can all live in Lekki?
What is her money for?
Lipstick? grin grin

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Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Nobody: 7:58am On May 02, 2016
Kimoni:


Hahahahahahaha I have not read and don't know where A40 is coming from but just want to quickly make this distinction.

Tearoses, 'enlightened' women are the ones who actually believe a woman can step into a man's role, temporarily or permanently. They don't mind being the breadwinner while their husbands become househusbands. I'm sure this is the new generation way of thinking. However, women who still believe in role segregation are termed 'traditional' and 'unenlightened'.

Sis mi, no ooooooo
The ones who are stepping in the gap are old fashioned ruth aboko ku
The jet age ladies dont take any nonsense
Their money is their money
Let the man go and do overtime and die from exhaustion
none of their biz
They no send

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Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by edwife(f): 8:10am On May 02, 2016
Kimoni:



I agree totally with the first paragraph. A man is the natural provider in the home and he shouldn't push that responsibility permanently and/or totally to the woman.

When a man stops providing due to uncontrollable reasons, it doesn't reduce or stop the woman's love; in contrast, she'll gladly step into the man's shoes to cover her husband's "unclothedness". But it becomes a problem when she is not getting the required support from her husband esp. as regards to her wifely duties. Taking up a role meant for 2 persons would put pressure on her and if she is the type that cannot soak in pressure for too long, she starts to react. And the world would see it as pride undecided Again, the man too would start to feel insecure about himself and pass the frustrations on to the already pressurized wife. Result - two disoriented persons = scattered home.

Are you sure about this? I got different opinions tho.....I can direct you to a blog and read what nigerian women have to say about this.
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by edwife(f): 8:12am On May 02, 2016
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Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Kimoni: 8:13am On May 02, 2016
tearoses:


Sis mi, no ooooooo
The ones who are stepping in the gap are old fashioned ruth aboko ku
The jet age ladies dont take any nonsense
Their money is their money
Let the man go and do overtime and die from exhaustion
none of their biz
They no send

grin grin grin grin grin

He won't die of exhaustion oooo
Ise o kii n payan o, ole lon payan

But traditional women don't earn substantial money like that naa, so how can they stand in the gap? Part of the feminist mantra is that there should be no role segregation in the home cuz it promotes patricachy (Stillfire, no be so you dey talk am?)


Tearoses - I added some things to the comment you quoted.
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Nobody: 8:20am On May 02, 2016
A mans prior conduct cannot be overlooked and a man with a bad attitude towards his wife when things were rosy for him, will not get his wifes sympathy and support when things turn downward for him.

A man who is in good terms with his wife and treated her with respect would benefit from his wifes support during dark periods.

A man who doesnt lift a finger to help his wife with chores and has affairs in her face & treats her like shitt will only get a mouthful of abuse if he loses his job and cant pay schoolfees.
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Kimoni: 8:21am On May 02, 2016
edwife:


Are you sure about this? I got different opinions tho.....I can direct you to a blog and read what nigerian women have to say about this.

Edwife, but you suppose recognize say me sef get A1 for Naija blogs naa
Where you see 8 women say the contrary, you will see 10 women affirm the above.

Com'on guys, no sane woman wants her marriage to fail naa, na experience dey teach everybody. Like Tiwa said, she is being accused of not cooking; while she denies it, she stresses the fact that there was no iota of motivation to cook even if she wanted to. Where is the motivation to cook for someone whose hotel bills are littered around the house? Where is the motivation to cook for someone who is getting knocked out by edible caterers? Or someone stealing and lying to you while you are dealing with him with a pure heart? let's ask if she started off like that.

Abeg let's be real o
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by edwife(f): 8:26am On May 02, 2016
Kimoni:


Edwife, but you suppose recognize say me sef get A1 for Naija blogs naa
Where you see 8 women say the contrary, you will see 10 women affirm the above.

Com'on guys, no sane woman wants her marriage to fail naa, na experience dey teach everybody. Like Tiwa said, she is being accused of not cooking; while she denies it, she stresses the fact that there was no iota of motivation to cook even if she wanted to. Where is the motivation to cook for someone whose hotel bills are littered around the house? Where is the motivation to cook for someone who is getting knocked out by edible caterers? Or someone stealing and lying to you while you are dealing with him with a pure heart? let's ask if she started off like that.

Abeg let's be real o

Tiwa situation is different, No one will be motivated to do anything for a cheating spouse; you were generalizing and i know for sure not every woman will step in "gladly" to cover for her husband. The covering is mostly done outside for public viewing but at home it's different.

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Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Kimoni: 8:28am On May 02, 2016
tearoses:


I disagree ma tongue grin
What are her earnings for?
Dayo has talked about accommodation and kids school fees
Accommodation that she will live in and enjoy and throw house parties cool
......and school fees for her own kids, not dayos brothers kids
If He said he wants her money to buy designer shirts and a rolex, then that's different.
She is putting money down for a lifestyle that she will enjoy.
What is the point of keeping money in her account if they are living in gbagada but if she puts something down, they can all live in Lekki?
What is her money for?
Lipstick? grin grin

grin grin grin do your part in the house, where I see we need to upgrade, I'll gladly upgrade. But don't start planning and drawing budget on my pay, e no go work tongue grin

If the man also married right, he should trust her to do something tangible with her earnings. If she spends it frivolously, then he needs to question his choice of wife and his own decision making. So we are back to square one, marry right tongue grin
It's not only women that should be getting knocks for marrying wrongly naa

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