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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Weah96: 8:03pm On May 07, 2016
leeroyzy:
The TRUTH is this; The number of true Christians is less than 1% of the followers, the majority of so called Christians are probably much more evil than evil itself.

I don't think that it's even up to 1%. First, one must rule out the preachers. They tell lies second only to professional politicians.
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by johnydon22(m): 8:04pm On May 07, 2016
emrain:


You need help. Smh

Tell me how he needs help? How is this 'smh' a refutation for his posts? . . . .

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Nobody: 9:44pm On May 07, 2016
otemanuduno:
Yahweh is Satan in a wonderful make-up. It is even better to serve idol than to serve Yahweh. Why? Idol won't send you to hell when you die, but Yahweh, he will surely send his worshippers to hell.

THANK GOD FOR EARTUM WHO REVEALED THE TRUTH TO ME. NOW MY BRAIN CANNOT BE TRAPPED BY MERCIFUL MERCILESS YAHWEH WHO MURDERED ANANIAS AND SAPPHIRA IN THE NEW TESTAMENT.

What is this one saying Mehn.... undecided

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by cloudgoddess(f): 12:18am On May 08, 2016
stainlex:


God bless you for this post!

I know my comment appears oxymoronic but I like am like that. Be free to choose any of the available gods for the blessings tho'..;-)
Haha, thank you very much kiss

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Raphoeworld: 5:59am On May 08, 2016
This post will clarify all your doubt about the payment of tithe. http://www.sujiandrewsblog.tk/2016/05/should-christians-pay-tithe.html Be blessed in the name of our lord Jesus Christ!
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by OgundeleT(m): 9:17am On May 08, 2016
Image123:


Do you want them to be tortured?
ok, will they be given the same medication?
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by OgundeleT(m): 9:19am On May 08, 2016
urahara:




Your analogy essentially says that no matter the seriousness of the disease . u gats get treated in the hospital. This u related with hell in saying that no matter how small ur sin is u must surely get tortured.

............... Xtians trying to use logic to explain their illogical beliefs since 30 ad
u would have asked him whether they will be given same medication just like god will treat shekau and a liar
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Nobody: 11:04am On May 08, 2016
johnydon22:


There are many of such groups on facebook, i have been invited to many of them but not really interested neither do i take facebook serious... rarely log in.

But we do have a Nairaland Freethinkers lodge on whatsapp though..

So we need to slowly take that step and organize discussions.

i also have ideas for science seminars and debates, that i will take up with LoJ, Teempakguy, Blackjewelry, Joshuabase , SirWere and others
Unfortunately, I have an internet problem. I lost my modem just three days after my tablet went terminally faulty. I'm sure it's my village people. This is not the first time I've misplaced the modem. But a month has passed. I don't think it will come back to me this time.

Anyway, I'm expecting a measily allowance at the month's end. It will fund either a java phone or a new modem pluS one of those monthly plans. Either way, I won't be active until the end of the month. When that is arrived, I pledge to actively participate in any and all discussions and programs organized.

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Nobody: 11:11am On May 08, 2016
johnydon22:


There are many of such groups on facebook, i have been invited to many of them but not really interested neither do i take facebook serious... rarely log in.

But we do have a Nairaland Freethinkers lodge on whatsapp though..

So we need to slowly take that step and organize discussions.

i also have ideas for science seminars and debates, that i will take up with LoJ, Teempakguy, Blackjewelry, Joshuabase , SirWere and others
You will let us know how to go about it. I'm interested.
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Nobody: 12:36pm On May 08, 2016
analice107:

You and Sonoflucifer are two persons i respect here the most.

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Nobody: 7:56pm On May 08, 2016
johnydon22:


Tell me how he needs help? How is this 'smh' a refutation for his posts? . . . .

lipsrsealed
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by laribari(m): 10:15pm On May 08, 2016
otemanuduno:
Yahweh is Satan in a wonderful make-up. It is even better to serve idol than to serve Yahweh. Why? Idol won't send you to hell when you die, but Yahweh, he will surely send his worshippers to hell.

THANK GOD FOR EARTUM WHO REVEALED THE TRUTH TO ME. NOW MY BRAIN CANNOT BE TRAPPED BY MERCIFUL MERCILESS YAHWEH WHO MURDERED ANANIAS AND SAPPHIRA IN THE NEW TESTAMENT.

You are obviously retarded and it's so easy to tell. I'm back now, let's take it up.
Yahwah is Satan? Oh so you believe in Satan and hell right? You are actually going there if you die without repenting.

It's beta to serve idols cos they don't send people to hell right? Well the only reason idols can't do that is because they do not have the power over hell and to send or determine who goes. So for that reason you think they are beta Dan your creator, meanwhile the small power they have are being also misused by those demonic entities. Some idols demand blood, some forbid twins and demand sacrifices, yet you think they are better?

You are indeed a clown. I'm back to take you on as I took on the slowpoke that started this trend and murdered him by exposing his foolishness. I'm waiting to read from you.

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by iamphill: 10:21am On May 09, 2016
@hardmirror


Read this and reflect on it.....Have a great day bro.........

In a mother’s womb were two babies. One asked the other: “Do you believe in life after delivery?” The other replied, “Why, of course. There has to be something after delivery. Maybe we are here to prepare ourselves for what we will be later.”
“Nonsense” said the first. “There is no life after delivery. What kind of life would that be?”
The second said, “I don’t know, but there will be more light than here. Maybe we will walk with our legs and eat from our mouths. Maybe we will have other senses that we can’t understand now.”
The first replied, “That is absurd. Walking is impossible. And eating with our mouths? Ridiculous! The umbilical cord supplies nutrition and everything we need. But the umbilical cord is so short. Life after delivery is to be logically excluded.”
The second insisted, “Well I think there is something and maybe it’s different than it is here. Maybe we won’t need this physical cord anymore.”
The first replied, “Nonsense. And moreover if there is life, then why has no one has ever come back from there? Delivery is the end of life, and in the after-delivery there is nothing but darkness and silence and oblivion. It takes us nowhere.”
“Well, I don’t know,” said the second, “but certainly we will meet Mother and she will take care of us.”
The first replied “Mother? You actually believe in Mother? That’s laughable. If Mother exists then where is She now?”
The second said, “She is all around us. We are surrounded by her. We are of Her. It is in Her that we live. Without Her this world would not and could not exist.”
Said the first: “Well I don’t see Her, so it is only logical that She doesn’t exist.”
To which the second replied, “Sometimes, when you’re in silence and you focus and you really listen, you can perceive Her presence, and you can hear Her loving voice, calling down from above.

God does exist because you cant see him doesnt mean he doesnt exist. I know you are smart and you will try and poke holes in this write-up, note am not contesting your belief with you, am just suggesting you reflect deeply on this. Cheers Bro

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Image123(m): 4:05pm On May 09, 2016
OgundeleT:
ok, will they be given the same medication?

What medication? Will you pay for it?
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by urahara(m): 5:27pm On May 09, 2016
iamphill:
@hardmirror


Read this and reflect on it.....Have a great day bro.........

In a mother’s womb were two babies. One asked the other: “Do you believe in life after delivery?” The other replied, “Why, of course. There has to be something after delivery. Maybe we are here to prepare ourselves for what we will be later.”
“Nonsense” said the first. “There is no life after delivery. What kind of life would that be?”
The second said, “I don’t know, but there will be more light than here. Maybe we will walk with our legs and eat from our mouths. Maybe we will have other senses that we can’t understand now.”
The first replied, “That is absurd. Walking is impossible. And eating with our mouths? Ridiculous! The umbilical cord supplies nutrition and everything we need. But the umbilical cord is so short. Life after delivery is to be logically excluded.”
The second insisted, “Well I think there is something and maybe it’s different than it is here. Maybe we won’t need this physical cord anymore.”
The first replied, “Nonsense. And moreover if there is life, then why has no one has ever come back from there? Delivery is the end of life, and in the after-delivery there is nothing but darkness and silence and oblivion. It takes us nowhere.”
“Well, I don’t know,” said the second, “but certainly we will meet Mother and she will take care of us.”
The first replied “Mother? You actually believe in Mother? That’s laughable. If Mother exists then where is She now?”
The second said, “She is all around us. We are surrounded by her. We are of Her. It is in Her that we live. Without Her this world would not and could not exist.”
Said the first: “Well I don’t see Her, so it is only logical that She doesn’t exist.”
To which the second replied, “Sometimes, when you’re in silence and you focus and you really listen, you can perceive Her presence, and you can hear Her loving voice, calling down from above.

God does exist because you cant see him doesnt mean he doesnt exist. I know you are smart and you will try and poke holes in this write-up, note am not contesting your belief with you, am just suggesting you reflect deeply on this. Cheers Bro



Yuck ... This again

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 5:49pm On May 09, 2016
iamphill:
@hardmirror


Read this and reflect on it.....Have a great day bro.........

In a mother’s womb were two babies. One asked the other: “Do you believe in life after delivery?” The other replied, “Why, of course. There has to be something after delivery. Maybe we are here to prepare ourselves for what we will be later.”
“Nonsense” said the first. “There is no life after delivery. What kind of life would that be?”
The second said, “I don’t know, but there will be more light than here. Maybe we will walk with our legs and eat from our mouths. Maybe we will have other senses that we can’t understand now.”
The first replied, “That is absurd. Walking is impossible. And eating with our mouths? Ridiculous! The umbilical cord supplies nutrition and everything we need. But the umbilical cord is so short. Life after delivery is to be logically excluded.”
The second insisted, “Well I think there is something and maybe it’s different than it is here. Maybe we won’t need this physical cord anymore.”
The first replied, “Nonsense. And moreover if there is life, then why has no one has ever come back from there? Delivery is the end of life, and in the after-delivery there is nothing but darkness and silence and oblivion. It takes us nowhere.”
“Well, I don’t know,” said the second, “but certainly we will meet Mother and she will take care of us.”
The first replied “Mother? You actually believe in Mother? That’s laughable. If Mother exists then where is She now?”
The second said, “She is all around us. We are surrounded by her. We are of Her. It is in Her that we live. Without Her this world would not and could not exist.”
Said the first: “Well I don’t see Her, so it is only logical that She doesn’t exist.”
To which the second replied, “Sometimes, when you’re in silence and you focus and you really listen, you can perceive Her presence, and you can hear Her loving voice, calling down from above.

God does exist because you cant see him doesnt mean he doesnt exist. I know you are smart and you will try and poke holes in this write-up, note am not contesting your belief with you, am just suggesting you reflect deeply on this. Cheers Bro
This has been thoroughly trashed on part2 of my thread page 10 I guess. Don't you guys have thought provoking analogies? This analogy is too easy to dismiss. Geez! angry

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by urahara(m): 6:28pm On May 09, 2016
HardMirror:

This has been thoroughly trashed on part2 of my thread page 10 I guess. Don't you guys have thought provoking analogies? This analogy is too easy to dismiss. Geez! angry
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Nobody: 11:26pm On May 09, 2016
@hardmirror...... Well I just came across this thread of yours this evening and really it's so inspiring, i can tell from your write up that you've been a firebrand Christian and from the little I've read I was trying to get what actually brought you down on your knees and find fault with Christianity, you said everything about Christianity is true but the reason behind it is false, truly I was looking for what converted a dynamic man of God like you into an atheist, maybe I wanted to become an atheist like you that's if I found a good reason but I was disappointed when you said God is not caring and loving and burns people in hell even at the slightest sin.

You are a Man of God you should know better, or maybe you are not rooted in the word of God hence your new disposition and believe.

Well I want to bring to your notice to the fact that God gave man authority and power to dominate the earth even the first and foremost man Adam and his wife Eve, but man gave his authority and power to the devil.. And you know that the devil doesn't wish man well and that's the reason for the evil that prevails on earth.

Seeing that the whole of humanity is eternally lost and in great bondage of the arch enemy, God was aggrieved, and being a loving Father he decided to shed his blood which is the only way he can to save the little he can of humanity.

God just did what he could do, by shedding his blood for us so that at least a good remnants of us will remain to carry out his first order, Jesus said it "only few will be saved"

Apostle paul said "that I might not be a castaway even when I've preached to others". That's a Man that's has good knowledge of Christianity.

Well, will someone that has enjoyed the gift and power of the Spirit be redeemed back if they turn away from the faith? I guess you have the answer.

I am not holier than anyone in this room, i may even be the worst sinner among us here, but I have hope that if I do it right, I will live eternally. The man on the cross received that grace and it's open for everyone.

Go back to your faith if you can but if you have decided to remain where you are, allbeit good. Let everyman do according to he pleases.

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Maryclaire1(f): 2:39am On May 10, 2016
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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Liveair: 11:10am On May 10, 2016
Hardmirror ...Hardmirror...Hardmirror... Come and finish this story or...
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by cloudgoddess(f): 1:53pm On May 10, 2016
Liveair:
Hardmirror ...Hardmirror...Hardmirror...
Come and finish this story or...
He created a part 2 here smiley
https://www.nairaland.com/3085047/part-2-pastor-atheist-why

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by iamphill: 6:24pm On May 10, 2016
HardMirror:

This has been thoroughly trashed on part2 of my thread page 10 I guess. Don't you guys have thought provoking analogies? This analogy is too easy to dismiss. Geez! angry

Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by iamphill: 6:25pm On May 10, 2016
urahara:




Yuck ... This again


Follow follow......confused entity
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by matrix600(m): 6:34pm On May 10, 2016
Tosinex:
@hardmirror...... Well I just came across this thread of yours this evening and really it's so inspiring, i can tell from your write up that you've been a firebrand Christian and from the little I've read I was trying to get what actually brought you down on your knees and find fault with Christianity, you said everything about Christianity is true but the reason behind it is false, truly I was looking for what converted a dynamic man of God like you into an atheist, maybe I wanted to become an atheist like you that's if I found a good reason but I was disappointed when you said God is not caring and loving and burns people in hell even at the slightest sin.

You are a Man of God you should know better, or maybe you are not rooted in the word of God hence your new disposition and believe.

Well I want to bring to your notice to the fact that God gave man authority and power to dominate the earth even the first and foremost man Adam and his wife Eve, but man gave his authority and power to the devil.. And you know that the devil doesn't wish man well and that's the reason for the evil that prevails on earth.

Seeing that the whole of humanity is eternally lost and in great bondage of the arch enemy, God was aggrieved, and being a loving Father he decided to shed his blood which is the only way he can to save the little he can of humanity.

God just did what he could do, by shedding his blood for us so that at least a good remnants of us will remain to carry out his first order, Jesus said it "only few will be saved"

Apostle paul said "that I might not be a castaway even when I've preached to others". That's a Man that's has good knowledge of Christianity.

Well, will someone that has enjoyed the gift and power of the Spirit be redeemed back if they turn away from the faith? I guess you have the answer.

I am not holier than anyone in this room, i may even be the worst sinner among us here, but I have hope that if I do it right, I will live eternally. The man on the cross received that grace and it's open for everyone.

Go back to your faith if you can but if you have decided to remain where you are, allbeit good. Let everyman do according to he pleases.
i know i'm not the one to respond to this, but permit me to say something.. you speak of God, you speak of the first man infact you even know his name, you speak of the spirit, you mention apostle paul, you speak of faith, and you talk about God handing dominion to man. I believe you got these ideas from the bible therefore you speak from a christian point of view, which is exactly the angle you see the world from. If you want to really grasp what the OP is talking about in this thread, then try to make your comments from a neutral point of view. You see the world from a christian standpoint, according to what your faith allows, you forget that there're billions of people on earth that don't share your faith. So when you talk about God, the first man, and how he gave dominion to man, make a reference to something that is universal. Don't forget that we do not all share the same God, or the same stories about the world.
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by brotherly: 7:23pm On May 10, 2016
What a thread.

For the OP . while I respect everyone's freedom of choice, I am a bit troubled that a story that started as "sincere" attempt at making people see the reason for your change in belief has turned to something I never really envisaged at the beginning.

I have read through 32 pages of the thread and my intent was simply to learn, not necessarily how to change direction but to notice the bumps in this journey. I once read a book by Philip yancey titled "disappointment with God" and your position and that of the main character is not any different. questions as to, is God real?, is God fair ?and is God not too slow?. These questions come from our position as humans and we seldom balance it from God's position. A position of ultimate power but still guided by patience and mercy when creatures HE made rebel against HIM the maker.

However please note that some Christians have faced even more challenging WHY moments and came out stronger .

My question to you are: is there any chance you still would have remained a Christian had the blind eyes opened when you prayed earnestly?
Do you believe in the existence of Satan the devil? what is the basis for this ?


FOR MY FELLOW BELIEVERS
For Christians things like this should not make us loose heart . Jesus asked "would you also go away"?, this was when many disciples stopped following John 6:60-67. We should understand a few things that no matter how spiritual we are, the Devil never gives up the chase. Remember one of the temptations of JESUS was in the Holy city, In the temple and at the Pinnacle(topmost height, zenith) of the temple. It was the only temptation where the devil used the scripture , also remember he was trying to force Jesus to display the miraculous . Does that sound familiar?


One problem I have seen in the Christendom is the lack of depth displayed by many , like the seed that fell on the stony ground, there is often spontaneous outward growth without inward development. "Some fell on rocky places, where it did not have much soil. It sprang up quickly, because the soil was shallow But when the sun came up, the plants were scorched, and they withered because they had no root" Mathew 13:5-6
The seed falling on rocky ground refers to someone who hears the word and at once receives it with joy. But since they have no root, they last only a short time. When trouble or persecution comes because of the word, they quickly fall away Mathew 13:21-22


Another problem in church especially amongst those gifted and being used of God is pride and familiarity . It is always a problem to maintain closeness with and the necessary reverence for God, hence we easily get offended when things don't work in a certain way.

LET US KEEP THE FAITH FOR THE FOUNDATION OF GOD STILL STAND UNSHAKEN.

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by urahara(m): 8:38pm On May 10, 2016
iamphill:



Follow follow......confused entity

U and ur god are 2 small 4 me wink
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by mrZENographer: 8:57pm On May 10, 2016
HardMirror:
CONTINUATION.
MIRACLES!
Yes miracles were real to us. VERY REAL!
And yes I saw and performed a lot of miracles.

Then you are not a Christian again because of rebellion and pride like Satan the fallen angel or you are blatantly a satanist coiling words to lead astray Christians.
But your folly shall proceed no further. I rebuke you in name of Jesus and may the confusion you seek be upon u alone. In Jesus name.
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by urahara(m): 8:59pm On May 10, 2016
mrZENographer:


Then you are not a Christian again because of rebellion and pride like Satan the fallen angel or you are blatantly a satanist coiling words to lead astray Christians.
But your folly shall proceed no further. I rebuke you in name of Jesus and may the confusion you seek be upon u alone. In Jesus name.

....... My friend u beta stop all this nonsense . u better come and serve lord gwa gwa before he destroys u

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by mrZENographer: 9:01pm On May 10, 2016
laribari:


You are obviously retarded and it's so easy to tell. I'm back now, let's take it up.
Yahwah is Satan? Oh so you believe in Satan and hell right? You are actually going there if you die without repenting.

It's beta to serve idols cos they don't send people to hell right? Well the only reason idols can't do that is because they do not have the power over hell and to send or determine who goes. So for that reason you think they are beta Dan your creator, meanwhile the small power they have are being also misused by those demonic entities. Some idols demand blood, some forbid twins and demand sacrifices, yet you think they are better?

You are indeed a clown. I'm back to take you on as I took on the slowpoke that started this trend and murdered him by exposing his foolishness. I'm waiting to read from you.

Ride on dear Bro. You used a sweet hard-cane truth which I liked. The Lord reward you graciously.
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by mrZENographer: 9:19pm On May 10, 2016
Tosinex:
@hardmirror...... Well I just came across this thread of yours this evening and really it's so inspiring, i can tell from your write up that you've been a firebrand Christian and from the little I've read I was trying to get what actually brought you down on your knees and find fault with Christianity, you said everything about Christianity is true but the reason behind it is false, truly I was looking for what converted a dynamic man of God like you into an atheist, maybe I wanted to become an atheist like you that's if I found a good reason but I was disappointed when you said God is not caring and loving and burns people in hell even at the slightest sin.

You are a Man of God you should know better, or maybe you are not rooted in the word of God hence your new disposition and believe.

Well I want to bring to your notice to the fact that God gave man authority and power to dominate the earth even the first and foremost man Adam and his wife Eve, but man gave his authority and power to the devil.. And you know that the devil doesn't wish man well and that's the reason for the evil that prevails on earth.

Seeing that the whole of humanity is eternally lost and in great bondage of the arch enemy, God was aggrieved, and being a loving Father he decided to shed his blood which is the only way he can to save the little he can of humanity.

God just did what he could do, by shedding his blood for us so that at least a good remnants of us will remain to carry out his first order, Jesus said it "only few will be saved"

Apostle paul said "that I might not be a castaway even when I've preached to others". That's a Man that's has good knowledge of Christianity.

Well, will someone that has enjoyed the gift and power of the Spirit be redeemed back if they turn away from the faith? I guess you have the answer.

I am not holier than anyone in this room, i may even be the worst sinner among us here, but I have hope that if I do it right, I will live eternally. The man on the cross received that grace and it's open for everyone.

Go back to your faith if you can but if you have decided to remain where you are, allbeit good. Let everyman do according to he pleases.

BRAVO BRAVO BRAVO. THIS IS SUCH WONDERFUL PIECE.
WAIT, so was that really the reason why he backslided? I've not seen a bigger fool. I perceived it was rebellion and not because he didn't know it's the truth. If you can't live righteous just humble yourself and keeping crying Lord help me, deliver me, I want to be with you forever. And God will help d humble. instead of rebellion that profits nothing but more wrath and condemnation for his wickedness and those he lead astray. But the righteous to life eternal.

Dear brother, he's made another thread. Go and save some souls with your God given talents. The Lord bless your soul.
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by mrZENographer: 9:36pm On May 10, 2016
matrix600:
i know i'm not the one to respond to this, but permit me to say something.. you speak of God, you speak of the first man infact you even know his name, you speak of the spirit, you mention apostle paul, you speak of faith, and you talk about God handing dominion to man. I believe you got these ideas from the bible therefore you speak from a christian point of view, which is exactly the angle you see the world from. If you want to really grasp what the OP is talking about in this thread, then try to make your comments from a neutral point of view. You see the world from a christian standpoint, according to what your faith allows, you forget that there're billions of people on earth that don't share your faith. So when you talk about God, the first man, and how he gave dominion to man, make a reference to something that is universal. Don't forget that we do not all share the same God, or the same stories about the world.

We do not share the same God or views and it is simply because the world is filled with lies and deceptions pepertrated by the devil via his human agents. If the truth, make billions to perish it's not because the Christian (loving) God wants souls to perish.

It's because they are sherperded by blind religous/ scientific/bigotic/occultic leaders which the world are more ready to accept. And Jesus said and I quote "if the blind lead the blind, both of them will fall into the ditch".

Now calculate how many followers Charles Dickins had on his tweeter page. What about Dr Naik? or the catholic pope? millions. then add them up.

THE TRUTH has its account and is begging, even crying for subcribers but few are clicking. Mostly because the blind leaders are campaigning against it.

So if subscribers to THE TRUTH goes to heaven and others to hell fire. How can God be blamed? you should blame your blind leaders and the devil that using them.
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by matrix600(m): 10:08pm On May 10, 2016
mrZENographer:


We do not share the same God or views and it is simply because the world is filled with lies and deceptions pepertrated by the devil via his human agents. If the truth, make billions to perish it's not because the Christian (loving) God wants souls to perish.

It's because they are sherperded by blind religous/ scientific/bigotic/occultic leaders which the world are more ready to accept. And Jesus said and I quote "if the blind lead the blind, both of them will fall into the ditch".

Now calculate how many followers Charles Dickins had on his tweeter page. What about Dr Naik? or the catholic pope? millions. then add them up.

THE TRUTH has its account and is begging, even crying for subcribers but few are clicking. Mostly because the blind leaders are campaigning against it.

So if subscribers to THE TRUTH goes to heaven and others to hell fire. How can God be blamed? you should blame your blind leaders and the devil that using them.
Its very easy for you to see your religion as the truth, and the others as lies from the devil and leaders. There are several religions and several walks of life and the followers of these various paths, like you, hold in mind that theirs is THE TRUTH as well. The same way you see theirs as lies is the same way they see yours. If a ask you what this truth is all about you'll begin quoting bible verses for me, if i ask a muslim same, he'll begin reciting the Quran verses. Nobody will see the truth and not accept it, except they're not convinced if the truth is really what it claims to be.



I understand that according to you, the 'Devil' is the one to always take the blames. God takes the glories thats for sure. Such mindsets scare me.

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