Barristter07:



there are some medical cases in which medical practitioners sense the influence of black powers in the condition of some patients , would you say this doesnt exist too ? [/i]

Which medical practitioners?

Third world doctors , even when well trained, don't have modern medical equipment to quickly diagnose most modern diseases and cancers.

So, it's very easy for I'll equipped doctors to give up when ailments fall beyond the diagnostic capabilities of their equipments.

But how come we only hear this kind of stuff in semi primitive societies?

The key denominators being SUPERSTITION and technological challenges.

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plaetton:
Hhhmm.

So we have freecocoa and sweetcocoa?


I am wondering where one can get sweetcocoa for free

Hahaha.

Very funny.

Barristter07:

freecocoa



while trying to prove smart, you are actually showing ignorance with your post above.


there are some medical cases in which medical practitioners sense the influence of black powers in the condition of some patients , would you say this doesnt exist too ?

Because of you I got a ban, don't provoke me again o.

sweetcocoa:
All these mods sef, any little thing una go just ban person, na wa o.

Guess yu were prepared for them. Yu av anoda cocoa

What you call juju can also be called a miracle. Calling it a miracle might help you realise that what goes on in churches or other places has the same weight in the mind of the christian or other person as that which juju is having on your mind. You can easily reject the juju in the churches, but not the miracle on the streets. The atheist can easily reject all. What you need to do is apply whatever reason you used to reject the juju in churches to your belief in the realness of miracles.

Elohim1:
HMMM SO WE HAD CHARM AND WE STILL ALLOWED THE WHITE TO ENSLAVE US OR WAS THEIR GUNS MORE POWERFUL THAN OUR CHARMS

Apparently, no one was with the idea of using leaves against the whites then

GrizzlyBear:
As I was perusing through NL one day, I came across a thread where a doctor on NL shared the tale of a girl was brought to the hospital where he worked and this girl was said to have been complaining of extreme stomach ache. When a scan was done, the doctors noticed something that they hadn't seen before- There were live insects seen crawling around the walls of her stomach and internal organs. According to the doctor, there was nothing anyone could do about her condition and after few hours, she died. Now, under medical cross examination, there was no explanation for how these insects found their way and were able to survive inside her. This girl was said to have been inflicted by the person she had sex with trough Juju, supposedly for money rituals.
If a supernatural force from where whosoever did this evil to the girl drew his power from didn't exist, then how was this possible?

This story in particular saddened me to my marrows, because such instances actually happens in our medical arena, it is a pointer sadly to how backwards, retarded and imbecilic Africans can be even the supposedly educated ones.

Any doctor who thinks an ailment is juju because he has no idea what is going on should be stripped off his certificates because they are completely useless and his years in universities wasted.

When will people learn, ignorance is not a gap that should be filled with an absurd assumption.

That he has no idea what happened means he don't

But i'm not surprised since you even mentioned it was a NL doctor ...

Now let me tell my own story..

Going back like 600years ago in the medieval era, superstition was prevalent in europe just like it is now firmly grounded in Africa.

Once upon a time during this time in the history of Europe, the doctors of that era actually thought Epilepsy was a demonic attack.

Now 21st century, doctors do not think that, we now know better except of course some imbeciles in white dress seating in some African hospitals.

It is a sad reality that some doctors in Africa has turned medical practice in Africa into a voodoo diagnosing point, a laughing stock in the global scale of an incredibly civilized and informed 21st century world.

Left to such persons we would still be thinking Epilepsy was a demonic attack, or H.I.V as a result of village people attacking someone.

Tell me is that the type of world you'd like to live in?

A world that backwards, primitive and crude?

Where some illiterates in white dress (Some African doctors) suggest juju, in saner climes they would be working tirelessly day and night in the lab to find out exactly what is going on and possibly when that is achieved find a cure thereby saving millions.

Human body can harbour a whole lot of parasites, rationally it is possible a certain type of insect can be one of such too.
Can't the egg of such an insect be ingested through contaminated foods? thereby hatching in a hosts body?

It was a strange sight for the doctor, but it was actually a call for study to find out what really is and not conjure the absurd notion of juju to fill a gap of ignorance.

Even though the story seems very vague to me as the type of scan was not mentioned, the type of insect either i'd not touch that.

Now a word of advice from me
Believe what ever you want, juju/magic, jazz but any day you come to a hospital for diagnosis and the doctor says.

"Uuuhm young man i can't really find out what's wrong with you, its strange and i don't understand it, i think or strongly believe it must be juju"

Please my brother, take your shoes, dust them and run for your dear life..

Jadonjack:


Guess yu were prepared for them. Yu av anoda cocoa

No be today na, it half tay.

waldigit:
Beloved you have good heart. I was once in ur state of mind hence I am passionate about you. Pls the truth is Jesus. Go 4 it. One of d greatest trick of devil is Atheism and only Fools fall for it.

All these christian propagandist self,
when will you free yourself from this jewish yoke ?

GrizzlyBear here is your second story

Growing up, I lived close to a popular university here in Nigeria, and one day I witnessed a cultist attack on a cult member of another cult group. Right in my
presence this guy was shot multiple times with a pistol and the bullet didn't
penetrate his body, it was not until his pursuers caught up to him and after
realizing their guns were useless, they used a machete and cut him with it till
he died.
Now, how was this guy able to withstand the effect of bullets?

Now from this story the bolded part actually suggest that he was running and they were shooting and such unstable action as running you think cannot disrupt a shooting target?

here is my own story :

I live in a ghetto rugged part of Enugu so i'm pretty familiar with cult activities and all so i can relate to your story.

there was once a time some cult members were chasing another and were shooting at him but the bullets weren't penetrating.

Why?

The bullet seriously missed it's mark

Someone running at the same time shooting at another running has a very high chance of missing it's mark.

How then was the machete able to do it?

Are bullets not still metal as machete?

If your body is impenetrable by a piece of metal moving at almost the speed of light how then was one that is as slow as a human hand can penetrate?

That is absurd.

Missing the target doesn't equate impenetrable target.

I have always told people when ever you see someone claiming invincibility to a gun or machete, get your own gun place squarely on the fore head and do the test yourself.

Be ready to go to jail for murder

plaetton:


Which medical practitioners?

Third world doctors , even when well trained, don't have modern medical equipment to quickly diagnose most modern diseases and cancers.

So, it's very easy for I'll equipped doctors to give up when ailments fall beyond the diagnostic capabilities of their equipments.

But how come we only hear this kind of stuff in semi primitive societies?

The key denominators being SUPERSTITION and technological challenges.

I beg to differ...... Superstitions abound in every society. Nothing like semi primitive societies when it comes to superstitions.

Stop trying to give juju bad name from an intellectual paradigm.

An herbalist uses natural substance for his work. I'm yet to observe an herbalist conjure a calabash out of thin air with boiled eggs inside. But I have seen it in movies.

Elohim1:
HMMM SO WE HAD CHARM AND WE STILL ALLOWED THE WHITE TO ENSLAVE US OR WAS THEIR GUNS MORE POWERFUL THAN OUR CHARMS

Stop showcasing nonsense as meaningful something... Charms is to protect or preserve during battle. It's not meant to win battles, wars or negotiate forceful take over. Men still have to fight and die in battle...

GooseBaba:


I beg to differ...... Superstitions abound in every society. Nothing like semi primitive societies when it comes to superstitions.

Stop trying to give juju bad name from an intellectual paradigm.

An herbalist uses natural substance for his work. I'm yet to observe an herbalist conjure a calabash out of thin air with boiled eggs inside. But I have seen it in movies.

There is a confusion about traditional medicine , occult practice and juju.
One is practical, one is theoretical and the third is mythical.

GooseBaba:


Stop showcasing nonsense as meaningful something... Charms is to protect or preserve during battle. It's not meant to win battles, wars or negotiate forceful take over. Men still have to fight and die in battle...

If one can use charm to protect one's life, then shouldn't such protection be available in battle against one's enemies or existential threats?

A charm therefore provides a such protection against existential threat as a Bible or Koran does to a believer.
It's just another form of faith.

If juju cannot be useful to the Nigerian armed forces to hunt and eliminate the existential threat posed by Boko haram, then charms are nothing but myths.

johnydon22:
GrizzlyBear here is your second story



Now from this story the bolded part actually suggest that he was running and they were shooting and such unstable action as running you think cannot disrupt a shooting target?

here is my own story :

I live in a ghetto rugged part of Enugu so i'm pretty familiar with cult activities and all so i can relate to your story.

there was once a time some cult members were chasing another and were shooting at him but the bullets weren't penetrating.

Why?

The bullet seriously missed it's mark

Someone running at the same time shooting at another running has a very high chance of missing it's mark.

How then was the machete able to do it?

Are bullets not still metal as machete?

If your body is impenetrable by a piece of metal moving at almost the speed of light how then was one that is as slow as a human hand can penetrate?

That is absurd.

Missing the target doesn't equate impenetrable target.

I have always told people when ever you see someone claiming invincibility to a gun or machete, get your own gun place squarely on the fore head and do the test yourself.

Be ready to go to jail for murder

That's where you're wrong....

Bullet charm is not something you utilize and ask someone to shot you in the head. Bullet charm is to preserve during battle, it does not guarantee the user a win. When you see someone that has been shot and escapes, they're in serious pain, their only saving grace is that the bullet did not penetrate.

For example, do you walk up to a man putting on a bullet proof vest and ask to shoot him in his head. Even western bullet proof vest are not tested with high caliber weapons.

plaetton:


If one can use charm to protect one's life, then shouldn't such protection be available in battle against one's enemies or existential threats?

A charm therefore provides a such protection against existential threat as a Bible or Koran does to a believer.
It's just another form of faith.

If juju cannot be useful to the Nigerian armed forces to hunt and eliminate the existential threat posed by Boko haram, then charms are nothing but myths.

And when police officers in western countries get shot with their bullet proof vest on and they die from their injuries.. Errmm that makes it a myth too.

There's nothing like perfection. One is only seeking protection but knows that the inevitable may occur at anytime...

GooseBaba:


That's where you're wrong....

Bullet charm is not something you utilize and ask someone to shot you in the head. Bullet charm is to preserve during battle, it does not guarantee the user a win. When you see someone that has been shot and escapes, they're in serious pain, their only saving grace is that the bullet did not penetrate.

For example, do you walk up to a man putting on a bullet proof vest and ask to shoot him in his head. Even western bullet proof vest are not tested with high caliber weapons.

Tell me how a bullet proof vest is same as a charm... you see i am not here to argue over any of this juju nonsense.

when ever you claim to be bullet-proof by charm i will definitely get my own gun. point to me that exact area your charm is effective and i will shoot at it lets see how it doesn't penetrate .

Arguing over this bullshiit will be the last thing i'll do here.

plaetton:


There is a confusion about traditional medicine , occult practice and juju.
One is practical, one is theoretical and the third is mythical.

Yeah, just like a placebo effects. But when you relegate the whole concept of juju to a placebo effects. It ridicules the whole traditional concepts. There's science behind traditional concepts not everything is myth.

Traditional bullet proof is practical. I have observed a security guard come in for treatment after been shot by armed robbers. He was in extreme pain, crying like a little bitcch. But he was alive. That's all that matters.

johnydon22:


Tell me how a bullet proof vest is same as a charm... you see i am not here to argue over any of this juju nonsense.

when ever you claim to be bullet-proof by charm i will definitely get my own gun. point to me that exact area your charm is effective and i will shoot at it lets see how it doesn't penetrate .

Arguing over this bullshiit will be the last thing i'll do here.

Bros there's nothing to argue here...

When was the last time you used your own gun to shoot someone wearing a western bullet proof vest? When was the last time you physically observed someone wearing a bullet proof vest being shot point blank..?

I just want to understand...

Goosebaba, what exactly is your point? I'm having difficulty understanding it pls explain better... Is it that the traditional bullet-proof charm only protects half way as the individual will still get injured if hit or the individual is fully protected with the charm and nothing will happen?
If it's the former then what's the point of the charm?

GooseBaba:


Bros there's nothing to argue here...

When was the last time you used your own gun to shoot someone wearing a western bullet proof vest? When was the last time you physically observed someone wearing a bullet proof vest being shot point blank..?

I just want to understand...

First of all what exactly is western bullet proof vest? ... here is the difference.

-One vest is physical, shows tendency to catch bullets in certain covered areas and never for once claims a skin is impenetrable.
-the other is not, just claims impenetrable skin.

so how then can one compare a bullet proof vest and bullet proof charm. . .

If one is wearing a vest, we all see it that he is, just like me hiding behind a concrete wall from a bullet.

but here you are claiming an invisible wall, impenetrable bullet proof skin, and i don't even see how necessary it is for me to engage in such stark absurd squabble that honestly bears no point at all. none

GooseBaba:


And when police officers in western countries get shot with their bullet proof vest on and they die from their injuries.. Errmm that makes it a myth too.

There's nothing like perfection. One is only seeking protection but knows that the inevitable may occur at anytime...

How do the charms work, then? Bullets exert far more force than blades so why would the charms fail to stop blades? Guns are also a recent invention so are these charms that seem to be tailor-made to specifically stop bullets also recent?

What I see here is that OP probably saw a man who was wearing a bulletproof vest that could stop bullets but couldn't stop blades (which is exactly how kevlar vests work.)

CoolUsername:


How do the charms work, then? Bullets exert far more force than blades so why would the charms fail to stop blades? Guns are also a recent invention so are these charms that seem to be tailor-made to specifically stop bullets also recent?

What I see here is that OP probably saw a man who was wearing a bulletproof vest that could stop bullets but couldn't stop blades (which is exactly how kevlar vests work.)

seriously baffles me how people pull out unrelated semantics playing out something that doesn't mean anything.

Bullet proof vest automatically became western and juju bullet proof indigenous..

there is a total difference between someone wearing some kind of thick clothing and say

"this thick clothing has platinum inside and can prevent bullets from hitting me on the areas it covers"

and another coming out fully naked saying
"My skin is impenetrable by bullet, i have a charm"

Totally ridiculous

plaetton:
Juju , just like God, is a contradiction in terms.

Juju is supposed to be the possession and display of supernatural powers.

Just like God, we have never in a stadium been serviced with a display of supernatural juju.
Everything about juju, just like God, is dem say, dem say.

If juju was real, the world's technological, military and economic superpowers would be a roll call of super juju Nations.

We had juju, but few oyinbo men sailed thousands of miles across the seas to steal our sons and daughters for hundreds of years ?

And they walked right back to take all our land, our resources, gave us medicine to heal out sick, showed us better ways to plant our crops, etc. Etc.

Nonsense.
Just like God, we invent the myth of juju to scare ourselves.
Nothing more.

Is it that you deny these things or they don't happen where you come from?
when i was a kid, there were these Jaz men who come to entertain us with magic, afterwards sell their wares. A man will use this knife Mae Suya uses to slice through their stomach, stick it into their eyes, nothing happens. A man will lie down and a plank will be place on him, a car will drive through him, nothing will happen to him, i have seen a man who lifted a car with his teeth off the ground. he stood erect with the car by his teeth.
An Hausa man came to my village, he never went into the River, How he did it, no one knows till this day, but he tied a robe to a stick by the bank of the river and spiritually tied an Hippopotamus and pulled it to the river bank and it was killed. He never stepped inside the water.
I have seen where a man took an empty giant Milo Can , opened it for us to see it was empty, closed it, shook it and open it again, steaming hot Jellof rice filled the Can, he scoped it out and people ate it to prove it was indeed rice.
Its either you are lying or you are living in denial.

johnydon22:


First of all what exactly is western bullet proof vest? ... here is the difference.

-One vest is physical, shows tendency to catch bullets in certain covered areas and never for once claims a skin is impenetrable.
-the other is not, just claims impenetrable skin.

so how then can one compare a bullet proof vest and bullet proof charm. . .

If one is wearing a vest, we all see it that he is, just like me hiding behind a concrete wall from a bullet.

but here you are claiming an invisible wall, impenetrable bullet proof skin, and i don't even see how necessary it is for me to engage in such stark absurd squabble that honestly bears no point at all. none

And there you have it. Invisible wall. Lol..so you relegate something to spirit land and wonder why you cannot makes sense of it. Have you seen a bullet proof charm before? If no, then you're just running your mouth. Am I right or am I right...

Let me help you out here. Certain charms are made of natural substance that is then ingested. It's more like an athlete using performance drug it increases his/her performance. Or someone who is on meth/bath salt and get superhuman energy. I don't know how it activates. Maybe by sweat,increase in heartbeat or adrenaline. I don't know. This charm has to be renewed periodically to update its potency. Now tell me where is the invisible wall.? Where is the spiri spiri...

Also, there are other charms that are worn as vest under clothing. That constitutes as a physical attributes to the charms. No magic involved simply science.

I don't know why someone who uses this gadgets would turn around and ask johnydon22 to shoot him somewhere in his body...

GooseBaba:


And there you have it. Invisible wall. Lol..so you relegate something to spirit land and wonder why you cannot makes sense of it. Have you seen a bullet proof charm before? If no, then you're just running your mouth. Am I right or am I right...

Let me help you out here. Certain charms are made of natural substance that is then ingested. It's more like an athlete using performance drug it increases his/her performance. Or someone who is on meth/bath salt and get superhuman energy. I don't know how it activates. Maybe by sweat,increase in heartbeat or adrenaline. I don't know. This charm has to be renewed periodically to update its potency. Now tell me where is the invisible wall.? Where is the spiri spiri...

Also, there are other charms that are worn as vest under clothing. That constitutes as a physical attributes to the charms. No magic involved simply science.

I don't know why someone who uses this gadgets would turn around and ask johnydon22 to shoot him somewhere in his body...

kk

kevoh:
Goosebaba, what exactly is your point? I'm having difficulty understanding it pls explain better... Is it that the traditional bullet-proof charm only protects half way as the individual will still get injured if hit or the individual is fully protected with the charm and nothing will happen?
If it's the former then what's the point of the charm?

First of all how does a charm look like..?

Same question what's the point of a bullet proof vest. a bullet proof vest cannot guarantee the wearer that a bullet will not go through the opening under his armpit, neck.

CoolUsername:


How do the charms work, then? Bullets exert far more force than blades so why would the charms fail to stop blades? Guns are also a recent invention so are these charms that seem to be tailor-made to specifically stop bullets also recent?

What I see here is that OP probably saw a man who was wearing a bulletproof vest that could stop bullets but couldn't stop blades (which is exactly how kevlar vests work.)

I think maybe because we are using the word charm. It's creating some mysticism.

This is simply science it has nothing to do with spirit world. You can toughen your skin with different substance. Just like you can smooth, darken or lighten your skin with different substance. Same thing done differently through ingesting certain herbs and traditional injection.

But if you're asking about the intricate details involved in gun or knife charm. I don't know. I certainly do not pocess such knowledge.