cloudgoddess:

Of course

Hello, sent you a pm as well, there's a lot I'd like to learn from you. You have a mind I'd love to be friends with.

This is testimony time I must not miss the chance to tell everybody how the lord Almighty heal me from the spirit of epilepsy with water and the name of Jesus. praise the lord

folawiyoma:
This is testimony time I must not miss the chance to tell everybody how the lord Almighty heal me from the spirit of epilepsy with water and the name of Jesus. praise the lord

Lol @ spirit if epilepsy


Epilepsy get spirit?

dablazor:
HardMirror, this is a really nice thread, you should know I read from Part 1 without skipping a single page, read most as guest, I was forced to recall my Nairaland password as I had forgot it.
I have to admit, your story is a little similar to mine, though on a rather smaller scale, I wasn't into the evangelism brouhaha but I have read the bible over 30 times growing up back to back (although wasn't a good read because of some absurdity, most parts I try not to understand, because questions would keep pouring in)
I was born into a Christian family, brought up a Christian, from catholic to deeper life, to winners, redeem, seventh day adventist, and back to redeem I think the only denomination I never attended was a white garment church.
Growing up as a Christian was challenging because I was a curious child who applies logic, I could recall even before I was thirteen the bible confuses me a lot because somethings don't just add up, but I was so scared to ask questions, I was too scared to think, and I have to admit, I felt trapped.
 I once went to my pastor when I was a teenager with some questions about Christ's sacrifice, which doesn't make sense to me, I ended up having the devil casted out of me, as my pastor could only justify my superior argument with my being possesed by the devil, I was given a special prayer session and I was convinced I was possessed too(funny). Ever since then, I never wanted to question God for I fear that's the devil tempting me, I used the 'get thee behind me satan' clause a lot back then growing up saying it silently to myself anytime these thoughts flood my mind, I felt it was the devil talking to me, I couldn't even question my belief because I always felt the devil is the only reason i'd question christianity, am sure a lot of Christians can relate to this fear if they are being honest. 
Am pretty sure if we were all brought up free of religion and was then introduced to Christianity after puberty, Christianity would be extinct.
Altogether I dropped religion last year towards the end of my masters before my PhD and I wished i'd done earlier, I felt so free, I could think about anything and ask questions, I felt like I have being caged for twenty-five years, I never took cocaine before but I can tell the euphoric sensation is quite similar to that of coke fiends.
Am sure a lot of Christians are familiar with John 8:32 "For ye shall know the truth and the truth would set you free" indeed the bible got this right, and I keep thinking it's an hidden message in that book.

Lol anyway, funny thing is I still gotto church, and yeah my 'Pastor' is a good speaker, he is a good motivational speaker, the church to me since I lost my faith has being a weekly societal gathering where you come, dance, meet various busy-working friends, take pictures and all. Yes I do pay offerings as well, because I know it ain't no kid thing for a motivational speaker to stand on a podium for an hour tops, he needs to be paid. And good thing is my pastor barely quotes the bible, his teachings are based on morals.
The whole world needs to wake up, its not bad if we have a morality class every weekend, but let's not just cloud it with some sacrosanct spiel of a Jesus/God, it's stupid. The gathering is a good idea, but the god factor is wrong.
It's not fair having believers praying and fasting day in day out hoping to get answers to their pleas while abandoning hard work and placing all their bets on a god, let people know both good and bad experiences they have aren't predestined by a god, or that the affairs of this world are being controlled by a spiritual being who they can call to and he'd intervene, you reap exactly what you sow, nothing is fixed, some are lucky some aren't, no sky daddy would help you out because as far as I am concerned, he only exists in the head of his believers and outright powerless in the real world!
Most people rely so much on a god that they don't work hard as much as they need to as they believe they had done their best(even when it's not enough) and having comfort in putting the rest it all in a supposed God's hand, and once things didn't go as they anticipated because they believed, they make excuses for their imaginary sky daddy, he ain't even have to beg for it. 

The Internet is killing religion, as people are beginning to see the truth, and meet others like them which they never thought existed because no one would come forward in a rather religion fanatic society.

I believe there is no god, hence agnostic-atheist, am not sure if he exists and I won't waste valuable time trying to be sure if there is a god or if there isn't but as far as I am concerned, if a god exists, he would rather have people know outright that he exists, because everyone is worshiping a god based on their societal leanings, which means most are christians because they are born in a Christian home, same with Muslims and others and they all claim to be linked to god, and if he won't clear our doubts, and show us the true way to him and he still exists despite his reluctance to clear these said doubts, then I believe he doesn't care about our affairs or our worship.
So i'd live my life free of worry and reliance, and take the Bulls by the horn, shikena.

am no more caged, and my life has being better, my studies has being swift, grades have being great, I take responsibility for everything that happens to me without wasting time on some god, my life has never being better, I feel in charge, and it feels like am truly in charge of my life. 
It's the best feeling ever!!!

Great Speech

@ frank 317,
u need prove to know if it get spirit? chai.
do you mean it? are u serious? do you need to have it? I was healed of the spirit of epilepsy with just water and the name of jesus

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The main 'function' of believing in God is forgiveness of sins and the gift of righteousness, which then guarantees eternal life with God both now and in the afterlife. i am not denying additions, please take note. The miraculous is very real. God provides for people, heals people, protects people etc. But don't miss the point or get it twisted. Those are not scientific things that will probably be repeated continuously like gravity. Guaranteeing an eternity of over a billion years by believing in God who talks about over a billion years is a good investment by any standard. Why do you think that God does not deserve praises? What makes anyone to deserve praises? The problem with you guys is that you make for yourself a definition of God, and then expect God must meet your definition of God hence He is not God. That is the most silly thing. It is like me saying my definition of a human being is someone who flies and has three heads. So i look round and i see nobody like that. Therefore, there is no human being. All these over 7billion are not human beings. It is a similar thing you do with God. You give no example, just your definition of what you think God must be to exist.

The Bible already defined your god for the whole world. What I did was look for that very god that was defined out here in the real world.

You want to make your god weaker and less powerful than the Bible say he is. Unfortunately, you don't have the privilege to do so. Not unless you burn every Bible on the planet and erase all cyber traces of them as well.

Weah96:


The Bible already defined your god for the whole world. What I did was look for that very god that was defined out here in the real world.

You want to make your god weaker and less powerful than the Bible say he is. Unfortunately, you don't have the privilege to do so. Not unless you burn every Bible on the planet and erase all cyber traces of them as well.

God forbid that i try to make Him weaker, i'm only showing you a better understanding and perspective of what and who He really is. The Bible's definition of God is not your definition, im sure. You dont like or agree with the Bible God, im certain. You want a God who will not punish sin, who will show up on CNN and make broadcast on Raypower, a god who will heal all sickness today and end all wars before 6pm if he's truly God. My friend, wake up, that is not the God defined in the Bible.

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God forbid that i try to make Him weaker, i'm only showing you a better understanding and perspective of what and who He really is. The Bible's definition of God is not your definition, im sure. You dont like or agree with the Bible God, im certain. You want a God who will not punish sin, who will show up on CNN and make broadcast on Raypower, a god who will heal all sickness today and end all wars before 6pm if he's truly God. My friend, wake up, that is not the God defined in the Bible.

I want evidence of the god defined in the Bible. What I think about the real God wouldn't matter if your Bible god was doing what the Bible says he does.

There are two ways to arrive at my position. You either read the Bible well and see that the claims therein are unsubstantiated in real life or you create an independent idea of God in your head which contradicts the Bible one. I used the former. I ran out of excuses for the Bible god as I got older, primarily because the Bible kept opposing my excuses.

I want evidence of the god defined in the Bible. What I think about the real God wouldn't matter if your Bible god was doing what the Bible says he does.

There are two ways to arrive at my position. You either read the Bible well and see that the claims therein are unsubstantiated in real life or you create an independent idea of God in your head which contradicts the Bible one. I used the former. I ran out of excuses for the Bible god as I got older, primarily because the Bible kept opposing my excuses.[/quote]
what are the unsubstantiated claims? U ran out of excuse? lmao.. U ordinary human being... Claiming u ran out of excuse for God.... Atheist are really foolish (a fool says in his heart there is no God psalm 14 verse 1)

To the op @hardmirror I know you have had your time with religion, but permit me to infer that there's a religious group you have have not tried. Again, I inferred. And it is Jehovah's witnesses. Their teaching is firmly based on the bible, it supports proven science e.g that the physical universe is not a few thousand years but may span into millions of years.

They believe that the gift of healing and speaking in tongue has ceased (1cor 13:8 ) . So all these stories people make up about miracles are either plain hoaxes or temporary magic.
You can visit http://Jw.org to learn more and get REALLY SATISFYING answers to life's biggest questions.

One love

Timflex:
To the op @hardmirror I know you have had your time with religion, but permit me to infer that there's a religious group you have have not tried. Again, I inferred. And it is Jehovah's witnesses. Their teaching is firmly based on the bible, it supports proven science e.g that the physical universe is not a few thousand years but may span into millions of years.

They believe that the gift of healing and speaking in tongue has ceased (1cor 13:8 ) . So all these stories people make up about miracles are either plain hoaxes or temporary magic.
You can visit http://Jw.org to learn more and get REALLY SATISFYING answers to life's biggest questions.

One love

But they believe an apocalypse will happen and only they will be saved? They are still deluded

drestoneokuta:


I want evidence of the god defined in the Bible. What I think about the real God wouldn't matter if your Bible god was doing what the Bible says he does.

There are two ways to arrive at my position. You either read the Bible well and see that the claims therein are unsubstantiated in real life or you create an independent idea of God in your head which contradicts the Bible one. I used the former. I ran out of excuses for the Bible god as I got older, primarily because the Bible kept opposing my excuses.
what are the unsubstantiated claims? U ran out of excuse? lmao.. U ordinary human being... Claiming u ran out of excuse for God.... Atheist are really foolish (a fool says in his heart there is no God psalm 14 verse 1)

I was living a delusion, thinking that a Jew spirit who dictated the Bible was listening to my prayers. I was like a child who thought that a fairy was watching over my tooth when in reality it was the mother removing them.

The child grows old and recognizes that fairies don't exist. Likewise, I outgrew my delusion. I could no longer make excuses for your Bible god. It is a tooth fairy.

We have had to fight on this for centuries; do you think ladies have roles to play in pulpit ministry?
This blog will clarify all your doubts regarding this topic.
http://www.sujiandrewsblog.tk/2016/04/do-ladies-have-place-in-pulpit-ministry.html
Be blessed as you read in the name of our lord Jesus Christ!

Weah96:


I was living a delusion, thinking that a Jew spirit who dictated the Bible was listening to my prayers. I was like a child who thought that a fairy was watching over my tooth when in reality it was the mother removing them.

The child grows old and recognizes that fairies don't exist. Likewise, I outgrew my delusion. I could no longer make excuses for your Bible god. It is a tooth fairy.

Did he ask you to make excuse for him? Did he? What u said would have been true, but sorry to burst your bubbles... This ain't a fairy tale.. It is REAL!!!! You haven't made any real point of discussion on like the OP. As for the OP, I ain't here to preach to you or anything... Am sure and I know u ain't enjoying ur new life... U feel empty.. (I ain't expecting u to admit)... Luckily for u, it's not too late

Weah96:


The Bible already defined your god for the whole world. What I did was look for that very god that was defined out here in the real world.

You want to make your god weaker and less powerful than the Bible say he is. Unfortunately, you don't have the privilege to do so. Not unless you burn every Bible on the planet and erase all cyber traces of them as well.

Christians are reducing their expectations from God and making it more ambiguous.
Noticed the thread of the boy whose eyes were plucked out by ritualists, not a single prayer for the boy to be restored. They were all praying for his future to be great or that God should punish the ritualists. Lol
It tells a lot on their own low expectations from a God that promised his followers the power to move mountains into the sea with just faith as little as mustard seed.

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God forbid that i try to make Him weaker, i'm only showing you a better understanding and perspective of what and who He really is. The Bible's definition of God is not your definition, im sure. You dont like or agree with the Bible God, im certain. You want a God who will not punish sin, who will show up on CNN and make broadcast on Raypower, a god who will heal all sickness today and end all wars before 6pm if he's truly God. My friend, wake up, that is not the God defined in the Bible.

Hehehe
I keep smiling and shaking my head. It's just so funny how ambiguous this God is. People worshiping the sun are better of. Why? So obvious that without the sun there is no life and the sun is there for all to see and experience it's impact.
But the God of the Bible makes SO MANY promises and NONE of it can be proven tangibly. I just shake my head at how christians keep contradicting the bible.
You don't have the manifestation of the power of God which Jesus promises several times, yet hyou guys keep making noise everywhere.

Jesus made eymes with clay and his spittle (saliva) for a man that did not have eyes, imagine just one of this miracles in this modern times, Just ONE! Oh my brother.

A promise of commanding mountain into the sea with faith as small as mustard seed is yet to be actualized. U can't even move sugar cube with faith as big as coconut.

All of a sudden God is not God of the bible now, all he does are things that are ambiguous. How can hospitals be treating more people than God is healing? With over 2 billion Christians worldwide. Na wa o.
We would have thought by now there will be at least 1000 people that are like elijah or jesus. But for where?

Timflex:
To the op @hardmirror I know you have had your time with religion, but permit me to infer that there's a religious group you have have not tried. Again, I inferred. And it is Jehovah's witnesses. Their teaching is firmly based on the bible, it supports proven science e.g that the physical universe is not a few thousand years but may span into millions of years.

They believe that the gift of healing and speaking in tongue has ceased (1cor 13:8 ) . So all these stories people make up about miracles are either plain hoaxes or temporary magic.
You can visit http://Jw.org to learn more and get REALLY SATISFYING answers to life's biggest questions.

One love

JW are the Christian sect I respect the most, but they are also flawed. They have repeatedly tried to predict when Jesus will return to earth, and each time they've been proved wrong.
I enjoy reading Awake! and Watchtower, but I've known for years that all religion is flawed and biased.

drestoneokuta:

Did he ask you to make excuse for him? Did he? What u said would have been true, but sorry to burst your bubbles... This ain't a fairy tale.. It is REAL!!!! You haven't made any real point of discussion on like the OP. As for the OP, I ain't here to preach to you or anything... Am sure and I know u ain't enjoying ur new life... U feel empty.. (I ain't expecting u to admit)... Luckily for u, it's not too late

Na wa o.
You just assume atheists are living frustrated lives. Don't worry I will open a thread about my life as an atheist. The only thing I regret was ever being a christian. Now I have to keep explaining myself to christian friends and family, that is the only frustration atheism has brought to me. Family and friends keep thinking I am into ogboni or something and you know why? They see that all of a sudden I am doing well for myself. Now self employed, in fact I was one of those who benefited immensely from Jonathan's government, budget has been passed and I will continue making progress.
I lived a life of poverty and shame as a christian. Even the pastor insulted me several times. Sometimes I wish I could go back to the church just to spite them that my level has changed.

Atheism makes you more responsible, calculating and directly inspired to succeed. You adapt easily in all situations as there is no religious limitation. We don't have enemies.
When I fail, I blame myself not satan or curses or anything spiritual. You see life in a better perspective and you are geared for success.

Weah96:


I want evidence of the god defined in the Bible. What I think about the real God wouldn't matter if your Bible god was doing what the Bible says he does.

There are two ways to arrive at my position. You either read the Bible well and see that the claims therein are unsubstantiated in real life or you create an independent idea of God in your head which contradicts the Bible one. I used the former. I ran out of excuses for the Bible god as I got older, primarily because the Bible kept opposing my excuses.

Would have preferred you open a thread to discuss this so as not to derail the thread and to reduce distractions and skipping pages in-between. But i'm fine anyway if you are, and it seems the OP just quoted me along the same lines.i do wish i had more time for detail like i would, and i still hope to answer the OP's story and some other mentions.
Nonetheless, the evidence of the God defined and revealed in the Bible is very clear, especially when you read the Bible as a whole not picking and choosing a few lines, and when you observe the actions of God and of Jesus. Evidently, actions speak clearer and louder than words. God is invisible, God works with faith, God is holy, and God is SOVEREIGN.

HardMirror:

Hehehe
I keep smiling and shaking my head. It's just so funny how ambiguous this God is. People worshiping the sun are better of. Why? So obvious that without the sun there is no life and the sun is there for all to see and experience it's impact.
But the God of the Bible makes SO MANY promises and NONE of it can be proven tangibly. I just shake my head at how christians keep contradicting the bible.
You don't have the manifestation of the power of God which Jesus promises several times, yet hyou guys keep making noise everywhere.

Jesus made eymes with clay and his spittle (saliva) for a man that did not have eyes, imagine just one of this miracles in this modern times, Just ONE! Oh my brother.

A promise of commanding mountain into the sea with faith as small as mustard seed is yet to be actualized. U can't even move sugar cube with faith as big as coconut.

All of a sudden God is not God of the bible now, all he does are things that are ambiguous. How can hospitals be treating more people than God is healing? With over 2 billion Christians worldwide. Na wa o.
We would have thought by now there will be at least 1000 people that are like elijah or jesus. But for where?

Of course, God is ambiguous and the Bible clearly says so, great is the mystery of godliness. This is my exact point, you want God to be as straight and simple as ABC else He don't exist. You're disappointed He's not visible or shouting from the sky to prove His existence. He doesn't need to. Without FAITH, it is IMPOSSIBLE to please God, and those that worship God MUST worship Him in spirit and in truth. Plainly on HIS terms. He's not desperate.
There are manifestations and miracles and the supernatural if you care to look for them. The problem is will you believe? When you listen to testimonies, do you believe? Do you believe that the Bible miracles happened? Why waste then the effort if miracles didn't save them in the past or present?

HardMirror:

Christians are reducing their expectations from God and making it more ambiguous.
Noticed the thread of the boy whose eyes were plucked out by ritualists, not a single prayer for the boy to be restored. They were all praying for his future to be great or that God should punish the ritualists. Lol
It tells a lot on their own low expectations from a God that promised his followers the power to move mountains into the sea with just faith as little as mustard seed.

For instance, on this same page, someone claims to be healed by God from epilepsy. i don't even care whether it is true or false as it adds nothing to me and removes nothing. Does God heal,of course yes. Is God/divine miracle the only source of healing? No. You're the one looking for healing and miracles. If this fellow proves to you that he had epilepsy and doesn't have it again, will you believe God? Will you not like the Pharisees of Jesus time look for a 1000 explanations to soothe your pain? Therein lies your hypocrisy.

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For instance, on this same page, someone claims to be healed by God from epilepsy. i don't even care whether it is true or false as it adds nothing to me and removes nothing. Does God heal,of course yes. Is God/divine miracle the only source of healing? No. You're the one looking for healing and miracles. If this fellow proves to you that he had epilepsy and doesn't have it again, will you believe God? Will you not like the Pharisees of Jesus time look for a 1000 explanations to soothe your pain? Therein lies your hypocrisy.

FACT. My immediate younger brother was "healed" of epilepsy too. Not had any seizures in the past 13 years now.
We praised God because we felt it was our prayers that were answered. But further research showed people do "out grow" epilepsy, it happens a lot without prayers or medical intervention, the seizures just seizes.
So that is still an ambiguous case.
Can we pls make new eyes for that boy without eyes? That won't be ambiguous.

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Of course, God is ambiguous and the Bible clearly says so, great is the mystery of godliness. This is my exact point, you want God to be as straight and simple as ABC else He don't exist. You're disappointed He's not visible or shouting from the sky to prove His existence. He doesn't need to. Without FAITH, it is IMPOSSIBLE to please God, and those that worship God MUST worship Him in spirit and in truth. Plainly on HIS terms. He's not desperate.
There are manifestations and miracles and the supernatural if you care to look for them. The problem is will you believe? When you listen to testimonies, do you believe? Do you believe that the Bible miracles happened? Why waste then the effort if miracles didn't save them in the past or present?

You don't just get it. If God is ambiguous and can only be known thru faith, don't you think this is an elaborate scheme to hoodwink people into believing something that does not exist?
What if I told you Great Gwagwa if the creator of your God, but you can only understand Gwagwa thru faith? And don't worry, just like your God, Great Gwagwa is also ambiguous so don't ask for tangible or logical proves.

HardMirror:

Na wa o.
You just assume atheists are living frustrated lives. Don't worry I will open a thread about my life as an atheist. The only thing I regret was ever being a christian. Now I have to keep explaining myself to christian friends and family, that is the only frustration atheism has brought to me. Family and friends keep thinking I am into ogboni or something and you know why? They see that all of a sudden I am doing well for myself. Now self employed, in fact I was one of those who benefited immensely from Jonathan's government, budget has been passed and I will continue making progress.
I lived a life of poverty and shame as a christian. Even the pastor insulted me several times. Sometimes I wish I could go back to the church just to spite them that my level has changed.

Atheism makes you more responsible, calculating and directly inspired to succeed. You adapt easily in all situations as there is no religious limitation. We don't have enemies.
When I fail, I blame myself not satan or curses or anything spiritual. You see life in a better perspective and you are geared for success.

You are no longer a threat to Satan and is Kingdom (av already concluded that ur on their side) so why should he be bothered about u? because things are going well for u now isn't a prove that the "Christianity u practice was false" for all we care u could belong. But I'll say this to you. YOU LACK KNOWELEDGE IN THE THINGS OF THE SPIRIT, GET WISDOM!!! I challenge u and any other Atheist to give God an answer in the questions he asked Job (I wrote some out earlier), just answer one and prove Him wrong.. If u can't, then keep mute for the rest of ur life!!!

drestoneokuta:

You are no longer a threat to Satan and is Kingdom (av already concluded that ur on their side) so why should he be bothered about u? because things are going well for u now isn't a prove that the "Christianity u practice was false" for all we care u could belong. But I'll say this to you. YOU LACK KNOWELEDGE IN THE THINGS OF THE SPIRIT, GET WISDOM!!! I challenge u and any other Atheist to give God an answer in the questions he asked Job (I wrote some out earlier), just answer one and prove Him wrong.. If u can't, then keep mute for the rest of ur life!!!

Hehehe that is why my family thinks I have joined ogboni. Once people start making progress in life without religion, religious folk will always believe it is because they belong to the devil.
Go on youtube and watch Job by darkmatter2525, sure u would enjoy the video. There is nothing special about questions God asked Job. Cos Jehovah did not create anything. Jehova is a creation of man (Jews) and he has to be presented as all powerful. No different from Zeus or Paku

HardMirror:

FACT. My immediate younger brother was "healed" of epilepsy too. Not had any seizures in the past 13 years now.
We praised God because we felt it was our prayers that were answered. But further research showed people do "out grow" epilepsy, it happens a lot without prayers or medical intervention, the seizures just seizes.
So that is still an ambiguous case.
Can we pls make new eyes for that boy without eyes? That won't be ambiguous.

There you go, people also die from epilepsy. God can make new eyes for your boy and ive consistently given you how. One if He pleases, two if you have faith and ask for it, and three if you find one with the gift of the Spirit. Like I've said, it proves nothing in the end. Jesus did more and yet was crucified. God didn't do for many and they still went on to believe Him and even be inspiration to others for centuries E.g Fanny J Crosby. So what exactly is your point again?

HardMirror:

Hehehe that is why my family thinks I have joined ogboni. Once people start making progress in life without religion, religious folk will always believe it is because they belong to the devil.
Go on youtube and watch Job by darkmatter2525, sure u would enjoy the video. There is nothing special about questions God asked Job. Cos Jehovah did not create anything. Jehova is a creation of man (Jews) and he has to be presented as all powerful. No different from Zeus or Paku

lolz, ur ignorance is alarming, a not gonna debate that with u... I don't have to watch anything... I didn't ask if the questions were special, I asked u to answer just one. I pray Christ arrests u b4 it's too late. I know He will, not because ur worth it but because he loves u. Ull soon open a thread to say ur testimony and we will all be happy for it. Till then.... GET WISDOM!!!

HardMirror:

You don't just get it. If God is ambiguous and can only be known thru faith, don't you think this is an elaborate scheme to hoodwink people into believing something that does not exist?
What if I told you Great Gwagwa if the creator of your God, but you can only understand Gwagwa thru faith? And don't worry, just like your God, Great Gwagwa is also ambiguous so don't ask for tangible or logical proves.

An elaborate scheme that BREAKS the power of cancelled sin and sets the captive free is a good scheme. Jesus changed my life, brought me out of the miry clay of sin and put me where i am today. This same has been the testimony of many others through countless generations forever. If Great Gwagwa has something better up his sleeves, let him bring it on already or forever remain silent.

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An elaborate scheme that BREAKS the power of cancelled sin and sets the captive free is a good scheme. Jesus changed my life, brought me out of the miry clay of sin and put me where i am today. This same has been the testimony of many others through countless generations forever. If Great Gwagwa has something better up his sleeves, let him bring it on already or forever remain silent.

Oh yes just like islam has made many lives better. I have 3 friends who are now muslims and they are more responsible no and living productively.
Same with many good decision one makes in life.
Truth is my life has positively improved since becoming an atheist.
We all have our life stories to tell. Christianity has a lot of good to offer so why not? I will recommend it to people even as an atheist.
But I will always know that the God of the bible does not exist.

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An elaborate scheme that BREAKS the power of cancelled sin and sets the captive free is a good scheme. Jesus changed my life, brought me out of the miry clay of sin and put me where i am today. This same has been the testimony of many others through countless generations forever. If Great Gwagwa has something better up his sleeves, let him bring it on already or forever remain silent.

In addition, we can all over come what you call sin when rightly motivated, for you and many others, believe in God and the bible gives you this motivation

HardMirror:

Oh yes just like islam has made many lives better. I have 3 friends who are now muslims and they are more responsible no and living productively.
Same with many good decision one makes in life.
Truth is my life has positively improved since becoming an atheist.
We all have our life stories to tell. Christianity has a lot of good to offer so why not? I will recommend it to people even as an atheist.
But I will always know that the God of the bible does not exist.

Lol, the 'prosperity gospel' has pretty much messed you up. I'm not referring to general wellbeing or morality. i'm referring to eternal life. i have eternal life.

HardMirror:

In addition, we can all over come what you call sin when rightly motivated, for you and many others, believe in God and the bible gives you this motivation

There you go again. Any sect can be religious or moral. Not every sinner is a liar,or a thief, or a fornicator etc. The unspeakable joy of forgiveness of sin, eternal life,the witness in the spirit and the fruit of the Spirit. Them no dey sell am for market.