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Re: Finally I Have Crossed The Bridge Of Agnostism Into The Land Of Atheism by otemanuduno: 12:49pm On May 27, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


I can overwhelm you with rational questions and you will end the colloquy with a tentative stance on the subject of our existence . We both ask questions . Theists unsurprisingly ask more rational questions than the atheist , apparently.

Can you ask rational questions without quoting from your holy book?
Re: Finally I Have Crossed The Bridge Of Agnostism Into The Land Of Atheism by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:54pm On May 27, 2016
otemanuduno:


Can you ask rational questions without quoting from your holy book?

Yeah . Let me ask one . Can you provide proof the universe needs no creator ?
Re: Finally I Have Crossed The Bridge Of Agnostism Into The Land Of Atheism by otemanuduno: 1:09pm On May 27, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Yeah . Let me ask one . Can you provide proof the universe needs no creator ?
I can't provide one, but I can ask in the reverse way; can you provide proof that the universe needs a creator?
Re: Finally I Have Crossed The Bridge Of Agnostism Into The Land Of Atheism by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:24pm On May 27, 2016
otemanuduno:
I can't provide one, but I can ask in the reverse way; can you provide proof that the universe needs a creator?

Dont make this about me . You requested for a rational question without the mention of the bible, I gave you one and you couldn't provide a pertinent response .

I can ask you another rational question .
Re: Finally I Have Crossed The Bridge Of Agnostism Into The Land Of Atheism by dalaman: 1:45pm On May 27, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Yeah . Let me ask one . Can you provide proof the universe needs no creator ?

What has the creation of the universe got to do with any of the Christian claims of Jesus dying for 3 days and coming back to life for example? You haven't even shown that the universe was created by the Christian God and not the pantheon of Hindu God's. Why do you always talk senslesly my brother? Recieve sense please.
Re: Finally I Have Crossed The Bridge Of Agnostism Into The Land Of Atheism by otemanuduno: 1:51pm On May 27, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Dont make this about me . You requested for a rational question without the mention of the bible, I gave you one and you couldn't provide a pertinent response .

I can ask you another rational question .

Wait before you ask another rational question, can you tell me that this question you are asking is original directly from your thought or what has been asked many times before? Why I said this is because theists always quote each other and their books instead of bringing out the original thoughts.
Re: Finally I Have Crossed The Bridge Of Agnostism Into The Land Of Atheism by otemanuduno: 1:54pm On May 27, 2016
Bubewilson:
JESUS is standing at the door of your heart knocking. If you open up to him, he will come into your heart and be yours as you are his.
Hearts have no door.
Re: Finally I Have Crossed The Bridge Of Agnostism Into The Land Of Atheism by otemanuduno: 2:00pm On May 27, 2016
blueAgent:



Idiot but you believe Evolution without seeing it.was evolution and Bigbang not written by men? have they been proved?
You don't know how stupid atheism makes you look like.
The proof of evolution is in the fossils discovered. Go and read more about evolution and you'll know it's the fact. In fact, you can be about 90% correct about the reality of life if you are science-minded than if you are religious.

Anyway, DOMINO REVERAD, the God of the brain is here to set all religious folks free from worshipping small small gods and their pastors and imam. REVERAD is the God who made the big bang if you may know.
Re: Finally I Have Crossed The Bridge Of Agnostism Into The Land Of Atheism by KingEbukasBlog(m): 2:23pm On May 27, 2016
dalaman:


What has the creation of the universe got to do with any of the Christian claims of Jesus dying for 3 days and coming back to life for example? You haven't even shown that the universe was created by the Christian God and not the pantheon of Hindu God's. Why do you always talk senslesly my brother? Recieve sense please.

Why come to his aid brother . I asked a simple question , a rational one . And I said ' creator ' . You and your petty objections though tongue
Re: Finally I Have Crossed The Bridge Of Agnostism Into The Land Of Atheism by KingEbukasBlog(m): 2:27pm On May 27, 2016
otemanuduno:
The proof of evolution is in the fossils discovered. Go and read more about evolution and you'll know it's the fact. In fact, you can be about 90% correct about the reality of life if you are science-minded than if you are religious.

Anyway, DOMINO REVERAD, the God of the brain is here to set all religious folks free from worshipping small small gods and their pastors and imam. REVERAD is the God who made the big bang if you may know.

lmao . The proof of old earth creationism is the discovery of fossils . Go and read more about old-earth creationism and you'll know its the fact . In fact , you can be 90 percent correct about the reality of life if you are religious than if you are science-minded .


Anyway , does that mean people who are religious and science-minded are 99 percent correct about the reality of life ? People like me cool .
Re: Finally I Have Crossed The Bridge Of Agnostism Into The Land Of Atheism by KingEbukasBlog(m): 2:36pm On May 27, 2016
otemanuduno:


Wait before you ask another rational question, can you tell me that this question you are asking is original directly from your thought or what has been asked many times before? Why I said this is because theists always quote each other and their books instead of bringing out the original thoughts.



Since I joined Nairaland Ive not seen anyone ask that question . Atheists usually ask Christians to prove God's existence , prove that God created the universe and all that . And I was like why dont you provide cogent proof that the universe needs no creator . And of course they can't provide one you like you just did . But to save themselves from the embarrassment , the show the compulsive need to prove the onus is on the theist to prove God's existence .

But funny enough , whether the universe needs a creator or not , God exists . Because EVERYTHING that exists is part of a conscious creator / is contained in HIM . Who said the creation of the universe is the only proof God exists ? Though its his prerogative , there are a thousand and one reasons why people believe in God .
Re: Finally I Have Crossed The Bridge Of Agnostism Into The Land Of Atheism by otemanuduno: 2:36pm On May 27, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


lmao . The proof of old earth creationism is the discovery of fossils . Go and read more about old-earth creationism and you'll know its the fact . In fact , you can be 90 percent correct about the reality of life if you are religious than if you are science-minded .


Anyway , does that mean people who are religious and science-minded are 99 percent correct about the reality of life ? People like me cool .

what is old earth creationism? Do you mean Bible or Quran creation story or what? Pls explain.
Re: Finally I Have Crossed The Bridge Of Agnostism Into The Land Of Atheism by otemanuduno: 2:48pm On May 27, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Since I joined Nairaland Ive not seen anyone ask that question . Atheists usually ask Christians to prove God's existence , prove that God created the universe and all that . And I was like why dont you provide cogent proof that the universe needs no creator . And of course they can't provide one you like you just did . But to save themselves from the embarrassment , the show the compulsive need to prove the onus is on the theist to prove God's existence .

But funny enough , whether the universe needs a creator or not , God exists . Because EVERYTHING that exists is part of a conscious creator / is contained in HIM . Who said the creation of the universe is the only proof God exists ? Though its his prerogative , there are a thousand and one reasons why people believe in God .
Certainly God exists but all the while, people have been presenting the wrong gods to the world as God. They have been presenting Satan as God. Thank God Domino Reverad the true God who created the universe with a Big Bang is here already. Wait first, which God do you believe in?
Re: Finally I Have Crossed The Bridge Of Agnostism Into The Land Of Atheism by KingEbukasBlog(m): 2:57pm On May 27, 2016
otemanuduno:
Certainly God exists but all the while, people have been presenting the wrong gods to the world as God. They have been presenting Satan as God. Thank God Domino Reverad the true God who created the universe with a Big Bang is here already. Wait first, which God do you believe in?

Yahweh .
Re: Finally I Have Crossed The Bridge Of Agnostism Into The Land Of Atheism by otemanuduno: 3:10pm On May 27, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:

Yahweh .
He's one of the sons of my God. You'll know the truth someday.
Re: Finally I Have Crossed The Bridge Of Agnostism Into The Land Of Atheism by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:18pm On May 27, 2016
otemanuduno:


He's one of the sons of my God. You'll know the truth someday.

Hopefully not cheesy
Re: Finally I Have Crossed The Bridge Of Agnostism Into The Land Of Atheism by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:20pm On May 27, 2016
otemanuduno:


what is old earth creationism? Do you mean Bible or Quran creation story or what? Pls explain.

Yeah , old earth creationism . God created the earth billions of years ago . And there was recreation of some things 6 ,000 years ago which includes the modern man of course .
Re: Finally I Have Crossed The Bridge Of Agnostism Into The Land Of Atheism by otemanuduno: 3:37pm On May 27, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Yeah , old earth creationism . God created the earth billions of years ago . And there was recreation of some things 6 ,000 years ago which includes the modern man of course .
Flesh and blood has not revealed this to you. Surely the spirit of Eartum the brother of Jehovah has told you this. What you said is exactly what the DOCTRINE OF THE UFOS given to me by Eartum also said and you can enjoy the history of everything that happens within the first creation in my signature below. I am happy Eartum is telling people the truth that supersedes all religions.
Re: Finally I Have Crossed The Bridge Of Agnostism Into The Land Of Atheism by blueAgent(m): 4:32pm On May 27, 2016
otemanuduno:
The proof of evolution is in the fossils discovered. Go and read more about evolution and you'll know it's the fact. In fact, you can be about 90% correct about the reality of life if you are science-minded than if you are religious.

Anyway, DOMINO REVERAD, the God of the brain is here to set all religious folks free from worshipping small small gods and their pastors and imam. REVERAD is the God who made the big bang if you may know.


Clown. the same Evolution that contracdicts itself and the very foundation of Science.
Based on your Evolution theory which one came first. egg or the Hen? becos one has to exist before your so called Evolution takes place.

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Re: Finally I Have Crossed The Bridge Of Agnostism Into The Land Of Atheism by otemanuduno: 5:43pm On May 27, 2016
blueAgent:



Clown. the same Evolution that contracdicts itself and the very foundation of Science.
Based on your Evolution theory which one came first. egg or the Hen? becos one has to exist before your so called Evolution takes place.

Okay let me explain the doctrine of the the UFOS to you so that you can be blessed more in your memory. DOMINO REVERAD used a Big Bang to bring out the content of the universe you have today. Then he created all the gods you have ever heard of. The gods created the homos and when they intermingle, they began to evolve. You have heard how the gods lie with virgins to give birth or have you not? Nymphidis(Jehovah) lay with Mariah and Faulkin(Zeusus Krish) was born. Zeus lay with Semele and Dionysus was born. Vishnu(Vishinus) lay with a virgin and Krishna was born, etc. All these things happened millions of years back. Now when they kept on intermingling like that we began to have homo this and homo that, until homo sapien began to come up. But then the sun became hot and everything came to an end, including the gods. But then, Reverad the creator of them all made our world to continue by bringing back to life all that is dead, including Jehovah and Zeus etc. But all these gods asked the GOD OF THE UNIVERSE to allow them continue ruling over humanity, which reappeared and continued their existence from the Homo Sapien which they were before.

Now the gods are not permitted to appear physically to anyone anymore in our world and all the memories of the past events are already kept in our brain to use them for our own world. Then by tapping far into your brain, you could get into the WORD OF any of the gods and begin to write about them.

In THE BEGINNING OF OUR OWN WORLD ARE THE WORDS, AND THE WORDS ARE WITH the gods and the words are gods. So we bring the gods alive again by writing about their feat which happened during the times of the Neanderthals. This period is the period which is Now termed FAITH by every religion.

now in the past world, the kingdom of DOMINO REVERAD was the last kingdom to be revealed to the homos, so also in our world, the KINGDOM OF DOMINO REVERAD has come to stay forever. watch how many people will be losing their faith daily. More rapidly, people shall be losing their faith.
Re: Finally I Have Crossed The Bridge Of Agnostism Into The Land Of Atheism by Nobody: 8:17am On May 28, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


The smallest particle exists for sure but the fact still remains NATURE IS NOT CONSCIOUS .
seriously Ebuka for you to have written this shows that the end to your brainwashing is not near in sight. No offence. Just go out there and observe your environment and come back to give us feed back. Or lets us the basics, are you part of nature? And are you conscious? If no, you ought not be paid attention. No offence
Re: Finally I Have Crossed The Bridge Of Agnostism Into The Land Of Atheism by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:25am On May 28, 2016
BUHARIWILLWIN:
seriously Ebuka for you to have written this shows that the end to your brainwashing is not near in sight. No offence. Just go out there and observe your environment and come back to give us feed back. Or lets us the basics, are you part of nature? And are you conscious? If no, you ought not be paid attention. No offence

For Ronaldo's sake , nature is not conscious . Consciousness has been attributed to luck - it was not intended to happen . Consciousness , scientifically , exists due to the presence of the brain or neural network . Atheists will switch to philosophical gibberish just to prove a point but a theist does it , its irrational .

I can tell you to observe the universe and appreciate God's works . PROVE it and stop telling me about man , atoms and the environment

Re: Finally I Have Crossed The Bridge Of Agnostism Into The Land Of Atheism by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:30am On May 28, 2016
otemanuduno:


Okay let me explain the doctrine of the the UFOS to you so that you can be blessed more in your memory. DOMINO REVERAD used a Big Bang to bring out the content of the universe you have today. Then he created all the gods you have ever heard of. The gods created the homos and when they intermingle, they began to evolve. You have heard how the gods lie with virgins to give birth or have you not? Nymphidis(Jehovah) lay with Mariah and Faulkin(Zeusus Krish) was born. Zeus lay with Semele and Dionysus was born. Vishnu(Vishinus) lay with a virgin and Krishna was born, etc. All these things happened millions of years back. Now when they kept on intermingling like that we began to have homo this and homo that, until homo sapien began to come up. But then the sun became hot and everything came to an end, including the gods. But then, Reverad the creator of them all made our world to continue by bringing back to life all that is dead, including Jehovah and Zeus etc. But all these gods asked the GOD OF THE UNIVERSE to allow them continue ruling over humanity, which reappeared and continued their existence from the Homo Sapien which they were before.

Now the gods are not permitted to appear physically to anyone anymore in our world and all the memories of the past events are already kept in our brain to use them for our own world. Then by tapping far into your brain, you could get into the WORD OF any of the gods and begin to write about them.

In THE BEGINNING OF OUR OWN WORLD ARE THE WORDS, AND THE WORDS ARE WITH the gods and the words are gods. So we bring the gods alive again by writing about their feat which happened during the times of the Neanderthals. This period is the period which is Now termed FAITH by every religion.

now in the past world, the kingdom of DOMINO REVERAD was the last kingdom to be revealed to the homos, so also in our world, the KINGDOM OF DOMINO REVERAD has come to stay forever. watch how many people will be losing their faith daily. More rapidly, people shall be losing their faith.

Can you show me at least a selfie of you and these aliens . I need to see a video of them teaching you these things before anyone would pay attention to you.
Re: Finally I Have Crossed The Bridge Of Agnostism Into The Land Of Atheism by Nobody: 8:35am On May 28, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


For Ronaldo's sake , nature is not conscious . Consciousness has been attributed to luck - it was not intended to happen . Consciousness , scientifically , exists due to the presence of the brain or neural network . Atheists will switch to philosophical gibberish just to prove a point but a theist does it , its irrational .

I can tell you to observe the universe and appreciate God's works . PROVE it and stop telling me about man , atoms and the environment
yes sir. Lol. E never reach to show Keshi face. Who e epp. Yes God created all these things. However do u know God? Not the allegories you read in the bible and attest god did dis or that. What is your definition of god. And what is nature. And it baffles me how you say nature is not conscious. Is nature lifeless? Are u conscious by luck? Pls do answer with clear terms.
Re: Finally I Have Crossed The Bridge Of Agnostism Into The Land Of Atheism by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:35am On May 28, 2016
BUHARIWILLWIN:
Or lets us the basics, are you part of nature? And are you conscious? If no, you ought not be paid attention. No offence

I can also start with the basics . EVERYTHING is part of God . And a self conscious creator , he caused the existence of nature and gave the constituents their functionalities .
Re: Finally I Have Crossed The Bridge Of Agnostism Into The Land Of Atheism by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:39am On May 28, 2016
BUHARIWILLWIN:
yes sir. Lol. E never reach to show Keshi face. Who e epp. Yes God created all these things. However do u know God? Not the allegories you read in the bible and attest god did dis or that. What is your definition of god. And what is nature. And it baffles me how you say nature is not conscious. Is nature lifeless? Are u conscious by luck? Pls do answer with clear terms.

God is a conscious anthropomorphic deity in which everything that exists is part of Him/contained in Him . I was not conscious by luck . Nature is not lifeless .

Does dirt have life ?
Re: Finally I Have Crossed The Bridge Of Agnostism Into The Land Of Atheism by Nobody: 8:41am On May 28, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


I can also start with the basics . EVERYTHING is part of God . And a self conscious creator , he caused the existence of nature and gave the constituents their functionalities .
lol. What is god's form. Is he a male or female? Or neither. If he is self conscious and he caused the existence of nature and nature is part of god then nature should be self conscious. Don't you think? If nature isn't. Then what is the essence of nature. Is it mere childsplay? Is nature a mistake? Please answer
Re: Finally I Have Crossed The Bridge Of Agnostism Into The Land Of Atheism by otemanuduno: 8:43am On May 28, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Can you show me at least a selfie of you and these aliens . I need to see a video of them teaching you these things before anyone would pay attention to you.
Can't you believe it same way you believe in all the magical acts of Yahweh in the Bible without a video evidence? If you doubt this, then you have all the reason to doubt the existence of Yahweh also.
Re: Finally I Have Crossed The Bridge Of Agnostism Into The Land Of Atheism by Nobody: 8:55am On May 28, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


God is a conscious anthropomorphic deity in which everything that exists is part of Him/contained in Him . I was not conscious by luck . Nature is not lifeless .

Does dirt have life ?
yes dirt has life. U dnt need me to tell you that na. Microbes can scream that to you. So its ok to say that life and consciousness are paripasu (what's the spelling sef ) if u Av life then u are conscious of living. Vice versa. My issue is this. How can u say nature is unconscious but it has life. Its just like saying u have life but your creator does your thinking for you. E no gel na. If we seperate you from nature and you are conscious and u Av life. Nature has life and it is also conscious. If u disagree? Then you are telling me that god is partial. He gave u life and made you conscious but made your environment unconscious. If nature is unconscious then you would wake up one day and start defying gravity. Infact the universe would one big unintelligible entity. And who created it. God. Stop contradicting ur beliefs cos u wan win argument with atheists. There's no price in that. Its sheer idiocy. No offence
Re: Finally I Have Crossed The Bridge Of Agnostism Into The Land Of Atheism by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:40am On May 28, 2016
BUHARIWILLWIN:
lol. What is god's form. Is he a male or female? Or neither. If he is self conscious and he caused the existence of nature and nature is part of god then nature should be self conscious. Don't you think? If nature isn't. Then what is the essence of nature. Is it mere childsplay? Is nature a mistake? Please answer

God has no gender . God made man and plants conscious not the totality of nature . Well from most science myths say the universe was a mistake , it occurred by accident . I mean look around you , all these were not made by anyone ?

Why do you say nature is conscious ?
Re: Finally I Have Crossed The Bridge Of Agnostism Into The Land Of Atheism by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:51am On May 28, 2016
BUHARIWILLWIN:
yes dirt has life. U dnt need me to tell you that na. Microbes can scream that to you. So its ok to say that life and consciousness are paripasu (what's the spelling sef ) if u Av life then u are conscious of living. Vice versa. My issue is this. How can u say nature is unconscious but it has life. Its just like saying u have life but your creator does your thinking for you. E no gel na. If we seperate you from nature and you are conscious and u Av life. Nature has life and it is also conscious. If u disagree? Then you are telling me that god is partial. He gave u life and made you conscious but made your environment unconscious. If nature is unconscious then you would wake up one day and start defying gravity. Infact the universe would one big unintelligible entity. And who created it. God. Stop contradicting ur beliefs cos u wan win argument with atheists. There's no price in that. Its sheer idiocy. No offence

Dirt has life ? Im contradicting my beliefs ? You are mistaking being functional with being conscious . Robots are functional , intelligent and carry out various tasks but are not conscious . Automated systems are very functional and carry out tasks but are not conscious . Your devices - laptops , scanner , printer - are functioning but are not conscious . Same with the sun , moon , gravity these are functional units of nature but are not conscious .

Here is a bible verse to prove I am not contradicting my belief in God .

Genesis 2 :7
And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

God wouldn't have bothered breathing into man's nostrils to give him life since dirt has life and man was formed from dirt .

Life also means being functional not necessarily conscious .
Re: Finally I Have Crossed The Bridge Of Agnostism Into The Land Of Atheism by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:53am On May 28, 2016
otemanuduno:
Can't you believe it same way you believe in all the magical acts of Yahweh in the Bible without a video evidence? If you doubt this, then you have all the reason to doubt the existence of Yahweh also.

Faith ?

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