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Re: Why We Re-opened Silverbird, Rhythm FM - AMCON by mayoor15(m): 3:56pm On Jun 26, 2016
May GOD help Nigerian youth, some one borrowed and refuse to service 11billion not 11million, common 100k banks wont borrow a youth graduate willing to start up a business and you say this has tribal and political undertone, as a youth am disappointed with some comments....He created 1000jobs....will union bank not have expanded and employed 5000 people with that huge sum of money.....We should be asking him why he refused to service the loan not shouting witch hunt....God help our youth oooo

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Re: Why We Re-opened Silverbird, Rhythm FM - AMCON by SeverusSnape(m): 3:56pm On Jun 26, 2016
arresa:



This is the problem with these crooks. It's always other people looking for their downfall, witch hunting them and never their fault.

He blatantly 419ed the taxpayers, lived large on behalf of the Nigerian taxpayers, denied Nigerians the thousands of jobs, schools, hospitals, roads amd bridges can creat, but the crook is saying other people are looking for his downfall when in fact he was looking for our downfall by denying us our money.

Crooks like this man milked and took advantage of the corrupt system he was part of for 8 years as the director of NTA.

We heard about this and we are getting back our leaders money because GEJ ia not the President and this crook won't even bother paying us 1 kobo.

Funny how the hypocrite camped out on Twitter instead of the senate floor where he was sent. He spewa his common sense on Twitter, lectured and ridicled Osun state how to be financially responsible, even offered to send them food to eat as if they are poor beggers while his own state remains in worse condition with half a year of unpaid salary and benefits, while this crook and unpatriotic element remains the most finnacially irresponsible human being, a lousy business man and business owner.

I don't even get the downfall nonsense. We lived large on the N11billion? We bought mansions in California like he did? We sent our children to the best schools in America like he did?


Hypocrites like this buffoon really are annoying, even sad that this man was made a high ranking public official while owing and defaulting on taxpayers loans. Only in Nigeria.


Mr common sense with zero business and personal management common sense. What a sad irony..


Re: Why We Re-opened Silverbird, Rhythm FM - AMCON by primus101(f): 3:58pm On Jun 26, 2016
tinsel:

After the liquidation of the debt, Ben Bruce will automatically take back his companies. AMCON came in because they believe it was due to bad management he was not able to pay.

Thank you. By 'liquidation', I suppose you mean 'recovery?
Re: Why We Re-opened Silverbird, Rhythm FM - AMCON by AZeD1(m): 3:59pm On Jun 26, 2016
primus101:


Just to clarify, is it possible for the original founders of an organisation to re-possess it after it has been taken over by Amcon? If it is, what are the requirements?
Yes it is possible. It all depends on the agreements made during negotiations.
For example, the Murray Bruce family can decide to sell off their shares in the company completely and have nothing to do with it anymore. In cases like the example, Amcon would try and reposition the business, then sell it off too.

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Re: Why We Re-opened Silverbird, Rhythm FM - AMCON by AfroKnight: 4:00pm On Jun 26, 2016
Bad debt. Closing the businesses would not bring money to the creditors. Trust me, it is all about recovering the money. Banks don't play with loans.

He mocked governors who owed salaries but (together with a well-paid management team) could not service a loan. Baba, talk the talk, walk the walk.

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Re: Why We Re-opened Silverbird, Rhythm FM - AMCON by AZeD1(m): 4:02pm On Jun 26, 2016
Bollinger:


Sometimes I really think every Nigerian needs to be relocated to a neutral place for re orientation. Many who read your post won't understand it. Trying to comprehend asset acquisition is like trying to explain the theory of relativity.
I get your point but everyone should try to know the basics so you can make an informed decision.

It so sad to see people looking at a purely business decision from a political angle.

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Re: Why We Re-opened Silverbird, Rhythm FM - AMCON by kelvinnaira: 4:02pm On Jun 26, 2016
arresa:



This is the problem with these crooks. It's always other people looking for their downfall, witch hunting them and never their fault.

He blatantly 419ed the taxpayers, lived large on behalf of the Nigerian taxpayers, denied Nigerians the thousands of jobs, schools, hospitals, roads amd bridges can creat, but the crook is saying other people are looking for his downfall when in fact he was looking for our downfall by denying us our money.

Crooks like this man milked and took advantage of the corrupt system he was part of for 8 years as the director of NTA.

We heard about this and we are getting back our leaders money because GEJ ia not the President and this crook won't even bother paying us 1 kobo.

Funny how the hypocrite camped out on Twitter instead of the senate floor where he was sent. He spewa his common sense on Twitter, lectured and ridicled Osun state how to be financially responsible, even offered to send them food to eat as if they are poor beggers while his own state remains in worse condition with half a year of unpaid salary and benefits, while this crook and unpatriotic element remains the most finnacially irresponsible human being, a lousy business man and business owner.

I don't even get the downfall nonsense. We lived large on the N11billion? We bought mansions in California like he did? We sent our children to the best schools in America like he did?


Hypocrites like this buffoon really are annoying, even sad that this man was made a high ranking public official while owing and defaulting on taxpayers loans. Only in Nigeria.


Mr common sense with zero business and personal management common sense. What a sad irony..
my dear, if i be u, i for don go start a blog and name am commonsense.com.... See as u dey waste ur hand and grammer for wetin nobody go clap for u put... Mtcheww..

#with all due respect, please shurup sir
Re: Why We Re-opened Silverbird, Rhythm FM - AMCON by WFE222: 4:04pm On Jun 26, 2016
seunmsg:


There is nothing normal in owing N11billion for several years and refusing to pay while at the same time, mocking others who can't pay staff salaries. A man who cant use his common sense to manage his private business successfully should not advice state governors on how to run a debt free state.

From the way you write, it is obvious that you have never managed a business in Nigeria . For your information, it takes a lot more than common sense to run a business the size of silverbird without foreign support and Government patronage in the midst of the inconsistencies in Government policies and the general macro environment in the country You need a lot of prayers, a bit of luck and the kind of long term funding Nigerian banks are unwilling or unable to give.

Have you ever wondered why 80% of new businesses fail? Tell me 5 Nigerian businesses the size of silverbird that has survived over the years without Government patronage?

I salute the courage of the likes of BMB ...... who have over the years, invested in a country where everything is against you.

The greatest tragedy in all this is that there are Nigerians who are celebrating the demise of a Nigerian business because they do not like the Nigerian owner.

Besides, the loan is well collaterised so it does not impact the survival of Union Bank in any way.
Re: Why We Re-opened Silverbird, Rhythm FM - AMCON by primus101(f): 4:05pm On Jun 26, 2016
AZeD1:

Yes it is possible. It all depends on the agreements made during negotiations.
For example, the Murray Bruce family can decide to sell off their shares in the company completely and have nothing to do with it anymore. In cases like the example, Amcon would try and reposition the business, then sell it off too.

Thank you very much.
Re: Why We Re-opened Silverbird, Rhythm FM - AMCON by AZeD1(m): 4:06pm On Jun 26, 2016
primus101:


Thank you very much.
You welcome
Re: Why We Re-opened Silverbird, Rhythm FM - AMCON by carboblanko(m): 4:07pm On Jun 26, 2016
TippyTop:


We wouldn't know if he's servicing the loan or not but expect him to be arrested with trumped up charges the day he dare criticise the dictator.
That's moot. Let's not speculate. The good thing is that even Ben Bruce has not alleged that he is being singled out for his political leanings.

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Re: Why We Re-opened Silverbird, Rhythm FM - AMCON by arresa: 4:10pm On Jun 26, 2016
SageTravels:



He that has no sin let him cast the first stone. Even you too the borrow. stop all this nonsense he is not the only one owing.


The zero common sense man you are defending obviously don't know anything about throwing stones when he spew his common sense rubbish while throwing stones at other people everyday.

And people like open mouth every day and all day about no light, bad roads, bad schools, bad hospitals and lousy infrastructures, but you still support and defend the same people who denied you these basic benefits by denying you funds needed to better your life while they live a better life with your moneg.

He took N11billion, the next man took N10 billion and another took N20 billion, what do you the taxpayer and common man have left to live on?


Sometimes I wonder about you people..

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Re: Why We Re-opened Silverbird, Rhythm FM - AMCON by Aspireahead(m): 4:15pm On Jun 26, 2016
arresa:



This is the problem with these crooks. It's always other people looking for their downfall, witch hunting them and never their fault.

He blatantly 419ed the taxpayers, lived large on behalf of the Nigerian taxpayers, denied Nigerians the thousands of jobs, schools, hospitals, roads amd bridges can creat, but the crook is saying other people are looking for his downfall when in fact he was looking for our downfall by denying us our money.

Crooks like this man milked and took advantage of the corrupt system he was part of for 8 years as the director of NTA.

We heard about this and we are getting back our leaders money because GEJ ia not the President and this crook won't even bother paying us 1 kobo.

Funny how the hypocrite camped out on Twitter instead of the senate floor where he was sent. He spewa his common sense on Twitter, lectured and ridicled Osun state how to be financially responsible, even offered to send them food to eat as if they are poor beggers while his own state remains in worse condition with half a year of unpaid salary and benefits, while this crook and unpatriotic element remains the most finnacially irresponsible human being, a lousy business man and business owner.

I don't even get the downfall nonsense. We lived large on the N11billion? We bought mansions in California like he did? We sent our children to the best schools in America like he did?


Hypocrites like this buffoon really are annoying, even sad that this man was made a high ranking public official while owing and defaulting on taxpayers loans. Only in Nigeria.


Mr common sense with zero business and personal management common sense. What a sad irony..

You are one of the few guys I respect here...so let me politely ask...when was Bruce incharge of NTA for 8years?
Re: Why We Re-opened Silverbird, Rhythm FM - AMCON by tinsel: 4:17pm On Jun 26, 2016
primus101:


Thank you. By 'liquidation', I suppose you mean 'recovery?
Yes
Re: Why We Re-opened Silverbird, Rhythm FM - AMCON by arresa: 4:20pm On Jun 26, 2016
Aspireahead:


You are one of the few guys I respect here...so let me politely ask...when was Bruce incharge of NTA for 8years?


He was the head of NTA.

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Re: Why We Re-opened Silverbird, Rhythm FM - AMCON by Bobola62: 4:20pm On Jun 26, 2016
SageTravels:



He that has no sin let him cast the first stone. Even you too the borrow. stop all this nonsense he is not the only one owing.
. Hmmmm, but COMMON SENSE becomes NONSENSE wen you cannot manage a small business profitably, only to criticize the manager of an entity as big as Nigeria.

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Re: Why We Re-opened Silverbird, Rhythm FM - AMCON by tinsel: 4:21pm On Jun 26, 2016
mayoor15:
May GOD help Nigerian youth, some one borrowed and refuse to service 11billion not 11million, common 100k banks wont borrow a youth graduate willing to start up a business and you say this has tribal and political undertone, as a youth am disappointed with some comments....He created 1000jobs....will union bank not have expanded and employed 5000 people with that huge sum of money.....We should be asking him why he refused to service the loan not shouting witch hunt....God help our youth oooo
That is the irony of a country called Nigeria. Tribalism and religion are the two reasons Nigeria is still not able to develope. The rich and the mighty in the society are exploiting these two factors to the fullest.

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Re: Why We Re-opened Silverbird, Rhythm FM - AMCON by Aspireahead(m): 4:22pm On Jun 26, 2016
carboblanko:
That's moot. Let's not speculate. The good thing is that even Ben Bruce has not alleged that he is being singled out for his political leanings.

I wonder why people are adding political colouration to the story..BMB has stated his own case without crying as much as his fans here are doing. Ogbeni...I no pity dey man...but I know wish for Silver bird to die either.

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Re: Why We Re-opened Silverbird, Rhythm FM - AMCON by Aspireahead(m): 4:26pm On Jun 26, 2016
arresa:



He was the head of NTA.
so you were deliberately lying?.and you also added that the loan was gotten during GEJ's regime.
Re: Why We Re-opened Silverbird, Rhythm FM - AMCON by arresa: 4:31pm On Jun 26, 2016
Aspireahead:

so you were deliberately lying?.and you also added that the loan was gotten during GEJ's regime.

1. He was the DG of NTA. Learn about issues being discussed before jumping in to spew and ask ignorant questions..

2. I did not say the loan was taken under GEJ, you made that up.


Learn how to read and comprehend simple English words.


Btw, even while owing Nigerians N11billion, GEJ still made him the DG of FRCN after the terrible job he did at NTA.

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Re: Why We Re-opened Silverbird, Rhythm FM - AMCON by tee4naija(m): 4:32pm On Jun 26, 2016
But his supporters did not tell us d company is being run by AMCON, they said it had been reopened after all the issues had been resolved. If UBN had collapsed, over 6,000 direct employees and more than double that figure indirect staff would have lost their livelihood. With its attendant effects on their dependants.Now, telling us tales of how he employed 1000 people as a justification for defaulting on his obligations is absurd.Indeed, shame no dey dis country.

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Re: Why We Re-opened Silverbird, Rhythm FM - AMCON by Mackson01: 4:33pm On Jun 26, 2016
Falling is not a sin , but staying down is.
Re: Why We Re-opened Silverbird, Rhythm FM - AMCON by room089: 4:34pm On Jun 26, 2016
topeextent:
Mr comon sense you are owing 11 billions naira and you went and donate ur salary to osun state government den, why not use Dat money to pay part payment of ur debt, what a Shame you can not manage silverbird group companies tackless of managimg a state. Shiiioooorr

Leave that braggart!
He claims he employed about a thousand nigerians but he wants to liquidate Union bank so that thousands of people will lose their jobs and money. Is it not a high wickedness?

#commonsenseisnotcommon

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Re: Why We Re-opened Silverbird, Rhythm FM - AMCON by DeRay98(m): 4:34pm On Jun 26, 2016
TippyTop:
Dangote is presently owing N150bil big ones but he comes from the untouchable tribe.

Owing billions is not the issue here, don't let ignorance and hatred kill you.
It's failure to pay or meet agreed terms of payment over a period of time.
If Dangote is not failing in his loans terms, no matter how much he owes nothing happens to his companies.
These Big borrowers who fail to pay are the killers of banks since the 80s. While the bank's money is in the hands of these elites, and the banks have govt money, they didnt care about funding small businesses. This is a major reason our economy is weak and unemployment is everywhere and everybody is depending on govt for everything.
Now that govt has taken it's money from the banks they are now left to fight to recover their loans. No more shakara as before they either start doing real banking business or fold up.

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Re: Why We Re-opened Silverbird, Rhythm FM - AMCON by korday: 4:37pm On Jun 26, 2016
We wouldn't know if he's servicing the loan or not but expect him to be arrested with trumped up charges the day he dare criticise the dictator. quit your hatred we'd be objective. it is going to make your life more easier. please answer this few questions : did BMB borrowed money or not 2: his he servicing the loan or not. 3: is the Amcon take over legal? if all your answer is yes, then u need to shut up a bit for now till you have something meaningful to say. #witchuntcorroptpeople for the sake of Nigeria

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Re: Why We Re-opened Silverbird, Rhythm FM - AMCON by dROC1: 4:39pm On Jun 26, 2016
seunmsg:


Nobody celebrated his downfall. We only advised him to use his common sense to manage his business better next time. N11billion is huge, he should pay up before bad mouthing state governors who are are owing just like him.

To imagine he was owing 11bn yet was criticizing the bailout that states would recieve to pay salaries reeks of sheer hypocrisy.
He's lost his criedibility as Mr common sense and needs to keep quiet from now on. Shikena!

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Re: Why We Re-opened Silverbird, Rhythm FM - AMCON by Nobody: 4:39pm On Jun 26, 2016
Are the businesses worth 11 billion ? If they default on repayment, then they should be evaluated for their worth, if they are worth up to 11 billion, they should be sold.

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Re: Why We Re-opened Silverbird, Rhythm FM - AMCON by carboblanko(m): 4:50pm On Jun 26, 2016
Aspireahead:


I wonder why people are adding political colouration to the story..BMB has stated his own case without crying as much as his fans here are doing. Ogbeni...I no pity dey man...but I know wish for Silver bird to die either.
No reasonable person wants Silver Bird to die. But our elite should learn how to fulfill their business obligations. At least BMB has owned up and is not screaming witch hunt. That is commendable of him.

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Re: Why We Re-opened Silverbird, Rhythm FM - AMCON by defash8: 5:10pm On Jun 26, 2016
It is very easy for people who have not run company to talk thrash on this forum. How will business not collapse when country is sinking under Dullard, most of the business had been struggling but lot of CEO had been patching them but with the last economy slump, this finally kill lots of companies.
Re: Why We Re-opened Silverbird, Rhythm FM - AMCON by freshdude99(m): 5:12pm On Jun 26, 2016
Wiseandtrue:
Senator Ben, you did well. cool
Actually it is not easy to run a business in Nigeria with issues like electricity, Heavy Tax, Bills here and there. Yet you kept going wink
I preferred you borrow than to steal your constituency money. smiley
It is well. I hope you recover fast so that you can reclaim your company.
You are in my prayers
I do not know who you are or where you are from but this comment of yours speaks volume of your maturity and wisdom. Running a business in this God forsaken country is akin to hell. Imagine Nigerians celebrating this worthy Entrepreneur's travails that has simply choose hard work instead of stealing and looting ( a norm in Nigeria). I weep for Nigerian youths honestly

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Re: Why We Re-opened Silverbird, Rhythm FM - AMCON by sammyj: 5:16pm On Jun 26, 2016
I can tell you for free that Dangote his performing when it comes to servicing his 150b loan abeg. He is credit worthy leave the man and focus on the topic at hand. sad
TippyTop:
Dangote is presently owing N150bil big ones but he comes from the untouchable tribe.

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Re: Why We Re-opened Silverbird, Rhythm FM - AMCON by daprince098(m): 5:28pm On Jun 26, 2016
AZeD1:

Amcon never closes a business, the just change management.
Amcon has taken over Aero contractors, Bicourtney and so many other companies.
The shut down was to enable the change of management.
Nigerians need to separate business from politics.
Simple grammar. I never said AMCOM closes or shuts businesses but took possession over the businesses. Check the meaning of possession if you seem nt to understand. Still the same as Take over.

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