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Re: The NBA Begins by nairamaniac: 7:19am On Jul 12, 2016
SmooshCHN:
Oh Please spare us this "Strength Of Character BS"
The dude made a move in his own interests after 9yrs and you criticize him for it and go as far as saying "lacks strength of character"..
If you'll pick strength of character over rings and championship, then don't even watch basketball. He should team up with Chris Paul or Rondo and Westbrook should've moved to Shooting Guard.. Man, you cracking me up. Westbrook who's <35% 3pt, average jumper and struggling shooter.. Please it's better if you had just said you're disappointed KD joined an A-Star team which is unfair than to have said you waited for everyone to drop their ideas, and you refused to jump on the issue for likes attention unlike others and still ended up typing this rubbish.

OKC was always close and making foolish trades after like Harden, Reggie Jackson and Ibaka.. Why the hell did they even trade Ibaka for Oladipo??
KD did what's best for his career and personal heart desire why don't you just worry about your rather than criticise him for chasing his dreams. GSW got him after 2yrs chase. Stop the double standard cos you wouldn't day LeBron lack strength in character when he moved to Miami, constantly insulted Chalmers on Heats, never listened to David Blatt, Called himself the World Best Player and tried to step over a grown man and rat the same person to the media, or 41pts back to back in finals, MVP and finally Won A title for Cleveland. Strength of character doesn't mean shit if you stay I a team all you career and have nothing to show for it. Strength of character is Búllshit. What matters is the smile on each players face knowing they worked for whatever trophy they got.

We HV sed enuf of this kd issue. But considering iv not traded any post specifically with you over it, I'm forced to do that now.

Yeah "strength of character" and the is important to every facet of live, sports inclusive. While rings and championships, like degrees are limited to certain deciplines.

Just so you know, the term "shooting guard", doesn't mean the player WD be assigned to shooting from distances.

Some shooting-guards are high tempo scoring-guards that makes most of their points with layups&slams. Iverson was moved to shooting guard by the 76ers coach, Larry brown. Eric snow was played next to him as point guard. Those changes got the m to the finals.
Was Iverson a good shooter from distance?

If there's a guard that reminds me of Iverson in terms of energy and competetion for space both on the ground and in the air, I would say its Russell.
Russell would HV done much better playing/scoring off screens. Rather than being their primary playmaker.

Concerning all those trades OKC made. You bringing them up seems to me as trying to make Durant look good at the expense of the management. You dont even have to try soo
Hard.

From what i understood and remember, they had no choice than to loose either harden or ibaka. They had both westbrook and Durant as better scorers already. Which was what Harden brought to the table.
They had no alternative then to ibaka. He was top3 most defensive player in the league for like 3 consecutive years.

As for Reggie Jackson , he never wanted to stay any longer. Immediately Westbrook got back from injury, his time was up.

And please don't misquote me to make me feel arrogant or better than others on this thread. When did I say "i waited for everyone to drop their ideas, and i refused to jump on the issue for likes attention unlike others"?

Did I compare myself with "others" in my post?

My exact sentence was " I always like to hear from all parties including Durant before saying anything. I just don't jump on threads or posts for the sake of attention or to draw likes. Now that Durant has spoken, I can draw all final conclusions".




What was wrong for me to have waited for Durant's own side of the events? The people I was referring to when I sed "
I always like to hear from all parties including Durant before saying anything". are the people around him, not people on NairaLand.

if ur life revolves around NairaLand or people on this thread, mine doesn't.

iv been an active member on bleacher report for years be running into this beautiful thread. which urself, lolawilliams, eruditor and everyone else really amazed me and still do.


And yes, his reasons to me were wack. All the chemistry and unity he admired in GSW, I felt he was capable of to building it up or being a part of it, if he had a stronger personality/charisma.

To me, Leadership shouldn't only be seen in skillset, but also in Aura, charisma, attitude. How you presence influences the people around you. If you have all that in abundance, things like "unity & chemistry" would fall into place around you.

Lebron has proven to have that. Even if he opted to form a super team with bosh and wade.

Don't get me wrong. I love kd. Maybe probably more than most of you do. But he took the easiest root any player of his standard has ever taken in search of a ring. I respect his decision. Doesn't mean I have no right to say it as it is.

After all sed, I don't even expect you to understand my view or agree with me. Cos you and I have very distinct philosophies of life and evaluation of success.

While "success" alone means everything to you.

It seems "the road/journey to success means more to me than it does to you".
That's what separates Myths/Legends from Stories/Accolades.

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Re: The NBA Begins by nairamaniac: 7:27am On Jul 12, 2016
Mizzzbeee:
so can we say that he should have waited to sign with the warriors next season? For example if this season playoffs repeats itself but with the spurs eliminating thunder. Would you be OK if he then joined the warriors?

1) A top 3 player joining a Top2 team.
2) one that just whooped his asss.
3) The team he joined has his successor to his MVP crown.
4) The best player in the team he eloped to is his age mate and most likely would have kept them both as staunch-rivals on individual levels for the next few years (at least 4 years).

There's been some beautiful-indivudual-rivalries in the game. maybe you only pay attention to the most medially-hyped ones like BIRD Vs MAGIC.
There were others like Ewing vs David Robinson Vs Olajuwon. These 3 were best 3 centres for like 5 to 8 years.
There was Chris Paul vs Deron williams.
There was Grant Hill vs Penny Hardaway, who was more versatile and handled the ball like a pure point guard more.
Mere stats/wikipedia are not enough to show u all these 2day.

5) His former team, OKC is in the same conference as the team he went to (GSW) keeping them in position to meet multiple times en-route to Finals.

WHAT MORE DO U WANT TO HEAR?



I May be wrong though, but this move doesn't depict him as someone that has an indept Will/Heart of defeating his rival than playing next to him.

Its his life. his career. but such moves goes a long way to reveal other aspects of his personality which only "surprised" me.

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Re: The NBA Begins by Mizzzbeee(f): 8:08am On Jul 12, 2016
nairamaniac:


1) A top 3 player joining a Top2 team.
2) one that just whooped his asss.
3) The team he joined has his successor to his MVP crown.
4) The best player in the team he eloped to is his age mate and most likely would have kept them both as staunch-rivals on individual levels for the next few years (at least 4 years).

There's been some beautiful-indivudual-rivalries in the game. maybe you only pay attention to the most medially-hyped ones like BIRD Vs MAGIC.
There were others like Ewing vs David Robinson Vs Olajuwon. These 3 were best 3 centres for like 5 to 8 years.
There was Chris Paul vs Deron williams.
There was Grant Hill vs Penny Hardaway, who was more versatile and handled the ball like a pure point guard more.
Mere stats/wikipedia are not enough to show u all these 2day.

5) His former team, OKC is in the same conference as the team he went to (GSW) keeping them in position to meet multiple times en-route to Finals.

WHAT MORE DO U WANT TO HEAR?



I May be wrong though, but this move doesn't depict him as someone that has an indept Will/Heart of defeating his rival than playing next to him.

Its his life. his career. but such moves goes a long way to reveal other aspects of his personality which only "surprised" me.

I asked you a question, A question that came from your very own statement that "why would he join a team that has top two players and just 'whooped' his ass during the playoffs."

But you showed a liking to him joining the clippers, a team which also have top players. So i asked a question out of curiosity. "What if he waited to sign with the warriors next season? What if this season the spurs eliminated the thunder. Would you be OK if he then joined the warriors then regarless of GSW winning 73games and losing in the finals?

But you gave me an epistle that had nothing to do with the question or an attempt at the answer and asked What else i wanted to hear

I wanted to hear a simple Yes or No! undecided

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Re: The NBA Begins by SmooshCHN: 11:59am On Jul 12, 2016
nairamaniac:

I understand you and I respect your view concerning the KD issue.. I just feel "Strength of character" the way you used it overhyped. Moving to a better team to help achieve to your goal in life has nothing to do with strength of character.. He would've gone to Clippers but isn't the team studded enough to win on their own? Would it have meant he had strength of character?
Not everyone has that "Follow my lead attitude" or has that "inspirational characteristics like in the movies". Not every has that Alpha ability and no one should be judged for it. It has little to do with Winning. What you play, how you play is enough to inspire people around you. You don't have to give Captain's ship on the storm speech to win.. Durant and Russell and OKC always liked the Give the ball to KD and Russell play and even when KD shares the ball or involve others, it still doesn't get them anywhere..
Even the LeBron had to team up in Miami and buy the hot hands to win in Cavs.. It's all strategy not strength of character. Take those players in Miami, Bosh, Wade, Ray Allen, all were stars individually. In Cavs, JR, Irving, Love, Thompson are great individually. All they did was form a team. He did not just go to these teams and lectured them like Jesus did and they won.
OKC would have been serious if they made right choices. It's no KD's fault they didn't win.
A Nigga made his move, other have made theirs and are celebrated. Let him live.

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Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 1:20pm On Jul 12, 2016
When nairamaniac said K.D moving to the Clippers would have maintained his legacy is where his argument completely lost all credibility for me

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Re: The NBA Begins by Eruditor: 2:17pm On Jul 12, 2016
A40:
When nairamaniac said K.D moving to the Clippers would have maintained his legacy is where his argument completely lost all credibility for me

grin

He had me when he was pontificating about how Lebron's move to Miami showed strength of character but KDs move denigrated his own legacy.

At this point, to CAVS fans like Charles Barkley etc, it was any team but GSW- Even SAS would have been fine. The hypocrisy reeks.

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Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 3:17pm On Jul 12, 2016
Eruditor:


grin

He had me when he was pontificating about how Lebron's move to Miami showed strength of character but KDs move denigrated his own legacy.

At this point, to CAVS fans like Charles Barkley etc, it was any team but GSW- Even SAS would have been fine. The hypocrisy reeks.
i could understand barkley sentiment, he wasnt in support of lebron leaving for miami.

I am not in support of him leaving either, i wanted him to stay in okc, fight through it and win it all. I am disapointed, but i wont be there 10 years later when he retires with no ring.... Same thing lebron did.

You cant make excuse for lebron, give him a pass, and then blame KD... Thats why these lebron fan they vex person.

Also disapointed because it means lesser competition in the west. But knowing the west, with people like pop at the helm, They wont go down easily
Re: The NBA Begins by SmooshCHN: 4:00pm On Jul 12, 2016
A40:
When nairamaniac said K.D moving to the Clippers would have maintained his legacy is where his argument completely lost all credibility for me
Eruditor:


grin

He had me when he was pontificating about how Lebron's move to Miami showed strength of character but KDs move denigrated his own legacy.

At this point, to CAVS fans like Charles Barkley etc, it was any team but GSW- Even SAS would have been fine. The hypocrisy reeks.
You guys deserves A+ in Summary cheesy
Re: The NBA Begins by SIRcumalot: 7:16pm On Jul 12, 2016
Decale:
Guys, I want to see your top 5 PFs. No debates or counter arguments, just list

Mine goes thus:

Duncan
Malone
Dirk
KG
Barkley

cc Everyone
same for me.
Re: The NBA Begins by nairamaniac: 5:35pm On Jul 13, 2016
For those saying they feel sorry for Chris Paul or soliciting for him to move to team up with a star for a ring. Personally, I don't feel sorry for him.

Chris Paul is also a problem to the team and himself. He deliberately slowed down his game. Chris Paul used to be more aggressive and took over games while he was in New Orleans. He came into clippers and started playing slower and more careful like he was preserving his body to last for several years till old age.
That's not good for a naturally offensive star, especially wen the other fellow stars, Griffen and De Andre are not really great offensively.

There goes the reason why clippers have choked for the past several playoffs. So to answer your question SmoochCHN, on what he should do, He should first put in more effort to think more of his own game rather than preserving his body.

I found it kinda selfish of him when he modified his game. He was just around 26 then.
He got there but was suddenly started playing like a 40 year old Stockton in this day and age and when all point guards are so aggressive.


Again, this explains my reason I pictured a player like Chris Paul and Durant being a better fit than Westbrook and Durant.
The very first time I ever mentioned on this thread that "clips and have been better" came out as a reply to Mizzzbeee's post.

Find attached in the screenshot at the end of my post.

It was purely an answer to her question. as she had considered heat and clippers.

I only suggested clippers, fundamentally because I felt it was a better fit for his style of play next to Chris Paul.

please eruditor and A40, take note:

That I added 'it would have "maintained his legacy and reputation" should not be overlooked. its simply beCause i felt his impact would have probably moved the clippers from an habitual conference a second rounder to conference finalist. Which is more impactful than moving a GSW from a team that lost the chip by one game to a team that won it the following a season.

but now that iv understood you guys evaluation of greatness.I totally respect your views.

I also want to add that at the end if Durant's time in GSW, he's likely to never stand on same platform wt Lebron again in this life, because his impact in GSW would most likely be compared to LEBRON'S impact in Miami.

Lebron went there and stole the team from wade and bosh. As far as I'm concerned, Lebron almost single handedly carried Miami to the finals in his last season in miami, as both wade and bosh were already finished by then.
To make matters worse for Miami, the only player they added was a dead Greg Oden.
I beg to say if wade & bosh had played to there usual potentials that last finals, we all would have witnessed a Three Peat.






Not withstanding, those like me that haven't been carried away by evaluating players by rings would kindly disagree with my ally (Roland17) that;

Roland17:

In 10 years, CP3 would be discussed in the same vein as a R. Miller, Barkley and other great players whose numbers have been erased by current players.


Roland17, I know you have been on same page with me as regards most of my views.

but please, for no reason should you tolerate ignorance.
its inexcusable. irrespective of even of the population of those on the other side of your belief/argument.

Education is accessed by the tools and informations that are provided at a particular TIME(T).


I counter the presumed-analogy you stated on behalf of the ignorant ones, as follows:
1) Miller isn't top10 greatest in his position. He was a good spot-up shooter but wasn't good at creating his own shot.
2) The best Reggie Miller ever got to in all NBA teams was Third-Team in 95, 96 and 98.
While Chris Paul has shuffled between first and second teams for the past 6 to 7 years.

3) Miller didn't lead the pacers far into his career, cos i remember there was a certain Jalen rose that took over the pacers less than 6years of Miller's shine. Paul has led both teams he played in, for past 10years.

4)Barkley to me was great. But he has he never had a stretch as Chris Paul has. and also when he finally made the finals, both Kelvin Johnson and Dan Majerly struggled the spotlight with him in lots of those playoff games while Jordan led the bulls in over 90% of the game.


On the other hand, Chris Paul is probably top3 none-athletic/pure point guards ever, in the mold of Stockton, Jason Kidd and Steve Nash.

Top 3 withing his mold is no overstatement.. I WD rather evaluate him by his strength while also criticising his deliberate lackadaisical approach.


To make matters worse, on how you all have taken this "ring-thing" too far, below was eruditor's response to his post.


Eruditor:


This is so true. In as much as I love KD coming to GSW I actually thought he would stay at OKC and try for one more season. My posts in June are replete with that position. But whether we like it or not, once a player is termed "great" and is being tipped to make the HOF, what will decide where he stands on that list is his rings. Anybody who thinks contrary to this, is just a basketball neophyte.

The other day Magic said LeBron has cemented his status as top 3 of all times. Opinions will be polarised in that regard but Lebron has now played 7 finals in 13 seasons with 3 rings to show for it as well as 3 finals MVP whereas Bird played just 5 finals and got 3 rings out of it with 2 finals MVPs in the same 13 seasons if memory serves me well. In other words, some may argue that Bron is now ahead of Bird.

Obviously, I expect Celtic faithfuls to disagree with this but the fact remains that until Bron got his 2016 ring, virtually no one would have raised that notion- and what is worrisome WRT your post is that Chris Paul would never be rated higher than Chauncey Billups for the exact reason- RINGS.

Firstly, Chauncey Billups would never be placed ahead of Chris Paul in the next 200years. Except in the circle of those that view the game in theory and not practical.
Basketball is a Sport, an Art. it shouldnt be mistaken for a wedding/engagement party, to be graced with Rings.

Where I further disagree with the above post is that magic didn't reveal to anyone that he had promoted Lebron to top3 because he won one more ring. He may gave felt/thot so due to how he won the ring. The odds against him of

1) beating a 73game winning team,
2)coming all the way from 3-1 to 4-3, 3)
bringing a chip to a team that was formed just 12months earlier,
3)leading both teams in points, assist,rebounds, steals&blocks,
4) suddenly playing defense better than the past crowned defensive player's of the past few years
5) leading a team that has its second best player (Irvin) who isnt top5 in his position in the league.
How many teams in the last 5 years have won a chip without have its 2best players not being in top5 in their respective positions?
6) blocking d best player in d league (curry) and past finals MVP ( IGUODALA) in one same game, in crunch time.
The list goes on & on & on.

If you all didn't see or appreciate all I mentioned above and several more I omitted then i would blame you for thinking what Lebron did in this past finals was all about "adding one more ring" to his cabinet.

To me, all these things are much greater than "just one ring". Its one of the greatest things any athlete has ever done. one of the greatest things iv ever seen anyone accomplish in history of the game.

To counter the eruditor's presumption that magic was probably promoting Lebron ahead of bird even further merely because he tied Bird on rings. I wanna ask this question.
Would Magic have said the same thing if Lebron had three-peated in Miami?

Your guess is as good as mine. Magic would never have said that. And if any of you decide to lie about this. Then you are also telling me "Shaq or Kobe" was automatically promoted to top3 by Magic in his mind after they both led Lakers to 3 championships. This says a lot.

Greatness ain't all about rings, though its useful to place u in a unique/special class.

#i am not a neophyte.
I guess its pretty obvious. LOL

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Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 6:29pm On Jul 13, 2016
Decale:
Guys, I want to see your top 5 PFs. No debates or counter arguments, just list

Mine goes thus:
Duncan
Malone
Dirk
KG
Barkley

cc Everyone
Duncan
Dirk
Malone
Barkley
Kevin Garnett


I wonder why everyone putting KG ahead of Barkley is doing so? Rings? I guess man grin grin
Re: The NBA Begins by Manutd19: 7:15pm On Jul 13, 2016
@nairamaniac.....
Regarding CP not doing enough, you need to understand he prolly changed his game to prevent injury. Rose didn't want any part of that explosive style anymore......guys wanna get paid for long. $$$ flying around, they don't wanna miss it.

Nairamaniac let me ask you this, do you think Lebron would have left Miami if the heat was not a sinking ship? Wade was loosing it, no star point guard, Bosh wasn't contributing much in his last season. Why didn't Lebron stay? Ditched his friend and couldn't even tell them he was gonna leave. Great legacy! See its all about what you think is best for you as a player. If its the $$, take that route, ring..take am, power..grab am. Carmelo went the $ route, Kobe the combo of power(chasing Shaq out of town)+$+ring.
These great players needs that second guy that takes over for them when cold. Jordan (Pippen), Kobe (Gasol), Shaq (Kobe), Wade (Shaq), Wade (Lebron), Curry (Klay), Lebron (Irving), Durant (?)....westbrook maybe but unfortunately it didn't work for years. He's taking the Lebron route by bn second first to learn from winners before bn a proper leader of champions. Not a bad move if you ask me. I wouldn't wanna play/learn where u have CP3 as the leader.
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 7:43pm On Jul 13, 2016
Manutd19:
@nairamaniac.....
Regarding CP not doing enough, you need to understand he prolly changed his game to prevent injury. Rose didn't want any part of that explosive style anymore......guys wanna get paid for long. $$$ flying around, they don't wanna miss it.

Nairamaniac let me ask you this, do you think Lebron would have left Miami if the heat was not a sinking ship? Wade was loosing it, no star point guard, Bosh wasn't contributing much in his last season. Why didn't Lebron stay? Ditched his friend and couldn't even tell them he was gonna leave. Great legacy! See its all about what you think is best for you as a player. If its the $$, take that route, ring..take am, power..grab am. Carmelo went the $ route, Kobe the combo of power(chasing Shaq out of town)+$+ring.
These great players needs that second guy that takes over for them when cold. Jordan (Pippen), Kobe (Gasol), Shaq (Kobe), Wade (Shaq), Wade (Lebron), Curry (Klay), Lebron (Irving), Durant (?)....westbrook maybe but unfortunately it didn't work for years. He's taking the Lebron route by bn second first to learn from winners before bn a proper leader of champions. Not a bad move if you ask me. I wouldn't wanna play/learn where u have CP3 as the leader.
Care to elaborate?
Re: The NBA Begins by nairamaniac: 7:51pm On Jul 13, 2016
Manutd19:
@nairamaniac.....
Regarding CP not doing enough, you need to understand he prolly changed his game to prevent injury. Rose didn't want any part of that explosive style anymore......guys wanna get paid for long. $$$ flying around, they don't wanna miss it.

Nairamaniac let me ask you this, do you think Lebron would have left Miami if the heat was not a sinking ship? Wade was loosing it, no star point guard, Bosh wasn't contributing much in his last season. Why didn't Lebron stay? Ditched his friend and couldn't even tell them he was gonna leave. Great legacy! See its all about what you think is best for you as a player. If its the $$, take that route, ring..take am, power..grab am. Carmelo went the $ route, Kobe the combo of power(chasing Shaq out of town)+$+ring.
These great players needs that second guy that takes over for them when cold. Jordan (Pippen), Kobe (Gasol), Shaq (Kobe), Wade (Shaq), Wade (Lebron), Curry (Klay), Lebron (Irving), Durant (?)....westbrook maybe but unfortunately it didn't work for years. He's taking the Lebron route by bn second first to learn from winners before bn a proper leader of champions. Not a bad move if you ask me. I wouldn't wanna play/learn where u have CP3 as the leader.

You have spoken very intelligently. Cp3 changed his game to last for long.
Since he decided to do that. Then no one, himself inclusive should feel pity for him if He retires without rings. Of playing conference finals.

Lebron wdnt have left. If Miami wasn't a sinking ship.
But un4tunately he did. And alas he wrote a bigger story in Cleveland where he went to.

U also right by saying "its about what u think its best for you as a player". I respect that.

you said Durant is taking the Lebron route. to learn first before leading.

mack my words, there's no comparison between the parts of these 2 individuals and its over from now henceforth. For Durant would never learn enough to lead Golden States like the way Lebron led Miami for last 3 years of his time there.

Common, back2back season/finals MVP, All Defensive Team four straight years, Team leader in points/assist/rebounds in finals on more than one occasion thru the finals.
Durant in warriors would never be as unique as Lebron was in Miami.
Lebron is a beast.

For all those players you mentioned with their ROBIN'S next to them. You were very much in order.

But were u missed it is saying "if u were Durant, u wdnt want to play/learn where u have cp3 as leader".

Cp3 WD have summited all powers of the team to Durant. Cp3 is one of the most generous players iv ever seen. If only deandre and Griffen could score more, ohhhh Jessssus!

We WD be looking at another version of the Seattle super sonics that got to the 1996 nba finals.

This clippers Reminds me so much of 96 sonics.

Never seen a team with so many highlights with barrage of dunks and alley hoops from all angles of the court.
Re: The NBA Begins by SmooshCHN: 8:14pm On Jul 13, 2016
Any watched Adam Silver's speech concerning Durant moving to Warriors?? Says he's not I support of Super teams..
Re: The NBA Begins by Manutd19: 9:18pm On Jul 13, 2016
Donlittle:
Care to elaborate?



Heard he's always having issues with his Robins. A great player but i just think something is missing in his leadership ....
Re: The NBA Begins by SIRcumalot: 11:54pm On Jul 13, 2016
Donlittle:

Duncan
Dirk
Malone
Barkley
Kevin Garnett


I wonder why everyone putting KG ahead of Barkley is doing so? Rings? I guess man grin grin
Barkley isn't a two way player like KG.
and his offensive game isn't better than dirk.
that na how I reason am.
Re: The NBA Begins by SIRcumalot: 11:59pm On Jul 13, 2016
nairamaniac
you know Chris Paul had a pretty serious knee injury right?
Re: The NBA Begins by Eruditor: 2:03am On Jul 14, 2016
Nairamaniac,

Stop quoting me if you are going to be dumbing down arguments with your sententious nonsense in lieu of a robust reply.
Re: The NBA Begins by SIRcumalot: 6:14am On Jul 14, 2016
Manutd19:




Heard he's always having issues with his Robins. A great player but i just think something is missing in his leadership ....
only thing missing is a ship,
if you doubt his leadership go re-watch the 1st round series of that spurs-clippers game.
Re: The NBA Begins by SIRcumalot: 6:22am On Jul 14, 2016
SmooshCHN:
Any watched Adam Silver's speech concerning Durant moving to Warriors?? Says he's not I support of Super teams..
how many people dey happy with this move,
probably only warrior fans.
also
you know what this means right?
no calls,none at all
even if Steph is getting mauled,the ref go just dey nod him head in approval.
Re: The NBA Begins by Eruditor: 10:37am On Jul 14, 2016
SIRcumalot:

how many people dey happy with this move,
probably only warrior fans.
also
you know what this means right?
no calls,none at all
even if Steph is getting mauled,the ref go just dey nod him head in approval.

Adam Silver is playing to the gallery. Why is he talking like GSW did anything illegal? How did they become a super team except through the drafts like every well-run team?

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Re: The NBA Begins by lolawilliams(f): 10:43am On Jul 14, 2016
Decale:
Guys, I want to see your top 5 PFs. No debates or counter arguments, just list

Mine goes thus:

Duncan
Malone
Dirk
KG
Barkley

cc Everyone

Elvin Hayes, Malone, Tim duncan, KG, Barkley..

If you would build up a team for yourself, who wld be your starting 5?? Mine
PG- Magic Johnson
SG-Michael jordan
SF-LeBron james
PF- Tim Duncan
C-Kareem Abdul Jabbar
Re: The NBA Begins by Decale: 10:51am On Jul 14, 2016
lolawilliams:


Elvin Hayes, Malone, Tim duncan, KG, Barkley..

If you would build up a team for yourself, who wld be your starting 5?? Mine
PG- Magic Johnson
SG-Michael jordan
SF-LeBron james
PF- Tim Duncan
C-Kareem Abdul Jabbar


This is really tough, mhen

PG - Magic Johnson
SG - Michael Jordan
C - Hakeem Olajuwon
SF - Lebron
PF - Kevin Garnett
Re: The NBA Begins by SIRcumalot: 11:15am On Jul 14, 2016
Eruditor:


Adam Silver is playing to the gallery. Why is he talking like GSW did anything illegal? How did they become a super team except through the drafts like every well-run team?
fact that it is legal doesn't mean it is Right.
also I think his criticising Durant,not the warriors
KD will get flayed for awhile,he did what was right for him,these are the consequences of that actions.


P.S does this mean the cavs championship team was built in a acceptable manner?
they picked Bron,kyrie,tristan
traded Bennett and Wiggins for love.
I see no difference. cheesy.
Re: The NBA Begins by nairamaniac: 11:16am On Jul 14, 2016
Eruditor:
Nairamaniac,

Stop quoting me if you are going to be dumbing down arguments with your sententious nonsense in lieu of a robust reply.

Take it easy bro.
its just basketball and NairaLand between us.
1 love.

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Re: The NBA Begins by OohMpa: 11:17am On Jul 14, 2016
Hella busy, late to the party but all good...

Top 5 PFs
Duncan
Malone
KG
Dirk
Barkley

Starting lineup
PG Magic Johnson: No need for explanations

SG Jordan : Sorry Kobe, just have to go with the GOAT

SF Lebron : Again, no explanations

PF Garnett : Best two way and all round PF, most energetic, 2nd best in FTs, can't ask for more

C Olajuwon: Best 2 way center. Don't need just offense or woulda picked Jabbar

cc Decale Lolawilliams
Re: The NBA Begins by SIRcumalot: 11:19am On Jul 14, 2016
Decale:



This is really tough, mhen

PG - Magic Johnson
SG - Michael Jordan
C - Hakeem Olajuwon
SF - Lebron
PF - Kevin Garnett
on paper Lolawillam's squad go kill yours.
just saying.
Re: The NBA Begins by SIRcumalot: 11:27am On Jul 14, 2016
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Re: The NBA Begins by Decale: 11:37am On Jul 14, 2016
SIRcumalot:

on paper Lolawillam's squad will kill yours.
just saying.

I have to think about mine first.


On paper, probably

But since we're using them in the primes, I'm pretty sure my team will slay hers
KG in his prime was a beast, better defender than Duncan, way better FT shooter and his assists are higher than an average PF. He didn't have a good backup then and please don't mention Sczerbiak or Marbury. His team was synonymous to Lebron's Cavs and he did good. Duncan is better cos of his consistency and of course his strength but in their primes, mehn I'm taking KG all day

As for Jabbar, I no watch am so I dey take the one wey I see plus he's Nigerian tongue

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Re: The NBA Begins by SIRcumalot: 11:54am On Jul 14, 2016
Decale:



in this context I can see KG over Duncan but the difference in defence isn't so much it a shame that Duncan never won any season defensive player honour.

PG :Curry; I need a shot to save my life am
picking Steph. surest 3 pointer ever.
SG:Jordan;no explanation needed.
SF:James; no explanation needed.
PF:Duncan.one of the league greatest
defenders.
C: Shaq. surest two point ever.

am not blowing my own trumpet but, cheesy
this my team na APC
we go sweep everybody Comot.

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Re: The NBA Begins by Eruditor: 12:43pm On Jul 14, 2016
SIRcumalot:

fact that it is legal doesn't mean it is Right.
also I think his criticising Durant,not the warriors
KD will get flayed for awhile,he did what was right for him,these are the consequences of that actions.


P.S does this mean the cavs championship team was built in a acceptable manner?
they picked Bron,kyrie,tristan
traded Bennett and Wiggins for love.
I see no difference. cheesy.

I never criticised Cavs team. I only try to point out some similarities to their Fans when they try to make it look like Lebron plays with scrubs. In fact, when Bron decided to go Cavs, I felt they were a super team of some sorts.

My take is, see how Wiggins or Bogut didn't have a say. The team just traded them to whatever team they had business with. So I see no reason why when players have the chance to move where they want to go, other teams' GMs and so-called legends start complaining.

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