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Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by raphieMontella: 3:27pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
KingEbukaNaija:ok sire...oya..lets roll isiah 45:7 |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by KingEbukaNaija: 3:35pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
raphieMontella: That has been discussed numerous times before . That verse means blessing the good and punishing the bad for their evil or rebellion . Just like what He'll do the atheists for their rebellion against Him |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by raphieMontella: 4:14pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
KingEbukaNaija:relax na... |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by raphieMontella: 4:22pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things. —Isaiah 45:7 , The translators of many modern Bible editions, aware of the unsettling implications this verse holds for their faith, have attempted to soften the blow by translating it in a more palatable way. The New International Version, for example, has this passage say that God creates[b] "disaster",[/b] while the English Standard Version has it as "calamity", and the Revised Standard Version says[b] "woe".[/b] The Message translation creatively renders this verse as "I make harmonies and create discords" nt punishing isreal abi na only isreal god create?. Although these alternate translations wouldn't seem to solve much, they are still not as faithful to the original Hebrew than the KJV's unflinching translation... The Hebrew word translated by the KJV writers as "evil" in Isaiah 45:7 is "ra", and from textual evidence, it is clear that in the Bible this word does mean evil in a moral sense. Here are some of the other contexts in which it is used: In Genesis 2:17, God instructs Adam and Eve not to eat from "the tree of good and ra". The tree of good and disaster? The tree of good and calamity? Clearly not: it is the tree of good and evil. In Genesis 6:5, God resolves to destroy humankind in the great flood because "the wickedness (ra) of man was great in the earth". apply calamity and disaster here man...its certainly evil... In Genesis 13:13, the men of Sodom were "wicked (ra) and sinners before the Lord exceedingly". ..likewise here In Deuteronomy 1:35, a furious God threatens the Israelites, "Surely there shall not one of these men of this evil (ra) generation see that good land, which I sware to give unto your fathers." ..more and more In Judges 2:11, "the children of Israel did evil (ra) in the sight of the Lord, and served Baalim"...oh shvt here again In 1 Kings 16:30, the wicked king Ahab (husband of the infamous Jezebel) "did evil (ra) in the sight of the Lord above all that were before him". i dn taya abeg... These and many other references make it clear that the primary meaning of ra is indeed evil in the sense of wickedness or sin. ... Its clearly evident man... If u doubt 'ra' wasnt used in these other texts... Google search ''the bible text name in hebrew biblehub.com i mean like gen 6:5 in hebrew biblehub.com 2 Likes |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by KingEbukaNaija: 5:07pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
raphieMontella: Huh ? |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by Eddlad: 5:59pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
Weah96: It was inspired. Well it answered all the questions that needed answering,I didn't need anymore convincing. |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by Eddlad: 6:17pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
[quote author=Weah96 post=47462349] So a bunch of people gathered together and said that a non human entity spoke to them, telling them that it created the universe. And you just believed them like that just because you didn't know the origin of the universe? C'mon son. A whole creator with a favorite tribe of humans? Killing other humans on behalf of his favorite humans? Not only did they bring message from invisible person, the message itself is rubbish. How can a creator of galaxies and suns take a small tribe as his favorite, killing other human beings for the tribe? Why are the humans even fighting and the creator can talk?[/quote |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by Eddlad: 6:32pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
Weah96: Atheism is relatively new,in the beginning the most pertinent question wasn't whether or not God existed rather who was worshipping the right one.Man built many for himself and ascribed their beliefs to them them. Some however worshiped the one true God and became the israelites. Now you know this,read the word and realise several instances where God tried to used the israelites to help the world know that he was the one and only true God. Questions are good but your tone depicts someone who thinks he has it figured out. |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by Eddlad: 6:54pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
BlackIsLife: Here is how you can understand this. When a person sleeps the only time you are aware of is when sleep and when you wake up, essentially hours compress to a second,but all these hours are actually been "witnessed" by someone who is not asleep,they actually "live" the hours as they go by. Then again Jesus relates death to sleep again and again,hope you understand. |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by 4kings: 7:05pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
Eddlad: I don't agree. For example, Plato and especially Aristotle were deistic and believe god is created through human reason. They lived during or before jesus's time. |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by 4kings: 7:07pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
KingEbukaNaija: Do u seriously not understand what he is saying? 2 Likes |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by Eddlad: 7:13pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
4kings: Good deeds cannot get someone into God's good books,otherwise the poor would be disadvantaged nor does singing because we have deaf and dumb among us, and on and on. Sin is "living for yourself";doing your bidding,wish I could say it better in my local parlance but am not nigerian. So an atheist doing good is really nothing,if anything it shows that man was once good,we retained some over the years. |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by Nobody: 7:17pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
tell my the possibility of the noah,s ark folk tale and why is the bible centralized the middle east |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by KingEbukaNaija: 7:22pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
4kings: No not one bit . Since you do , you can explain . I think it was copied and pasted though |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by Eddlad: 7:24pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
4kings: RELATIVELY,I.believe.that's the keyword. That's all you gathered from what I wrote? |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by 4kings: 7:31pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
KingEbukaNaija: Well, in short he is trying to say that the word used in that verse is the moral evil that we all know. Remember the lying spirit and predestination of antichrist. |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by 4kings: 7:34pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
Eddlad:Nah, just wanted to pitch in. |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by 4kings: 7:39pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
Eddlad: I wasn't talking about getting into God's good book. What do u mean by man was once good? |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by KingEbukaNaija: 7:44pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
4kings: How are those moral evil ? |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by 4kings: 7:54pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
KingEbukaNaija:Moral evil are as a result of human actions. The example shows God influencing human actions(creating evil). |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by KingEbukaNaija: 7:58pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
4kings:You really need to understand the story before jumping into conclusion . Smh |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by Eddlad: 8:14pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
4kings: It was figurative.You seem to point out that mark was doing going and it was suppose to mean something,I merely am saying it doesn't. |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by 4kings: 8:26pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
KingEbukaNaija:Well I am not an atheist, I just believe in the esoteric meaning of scriptures. And from the literal interpretations of scripture, I think I stand corrected to the view of god being evil. Besides, what is more to the stories that I don't understand? |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by KingEbukaNaija: 8:30pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
4kings: God is not evil bro . Please when you guys claim not to be atheists , just complete it with what you guys are . So what are you ? A deist ? I need to see another deist apart from DeepSight , I need to ask him questions . |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by 4kings: 8:31pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
Eddlad:So when does doing good mean something? |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by 4kings: 8:42pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
KingEbukaNaija:I agree that God is not evil. And yes I'm a deist. |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by KingEbukaNaija: 8:47pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
4kings: Wow ! A deist ! So cool . I have lots of questions for you . Can I ask them ? |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by Eddlad: 8:47pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
4kings: Making someone's life a little better as you may see it doesn't have to have meaning, just remember anyone can do it. |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by 4kings: 9:00pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
KingEbukaNaija:Go ahead |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by KingEbukaNaija: 9:01pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
4kings: Which religion best portrays your idea of the supernatural creator ? |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by 4kings: 9:02pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
Eddlad:So u mean deeds by Mandela, Ghandi and several others are worthless to you, because of their beliefs. |
Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by 4kings: 9:14pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
KingEbukaNaija:The judea-christain religion |
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