GrizzlyBear:
I had a discussion with an Atheist friend yesterday, and that discussion raised an interesting question.
My friend, confidently proposed, that there is hardly any full blooded, 100% Nigerian, living in Nigeria,( and I'll explain the meaning of this phrase later on), that is an atheist. And as a reply to that, I happily told him I knew lots of 100% Nigerians on Nairaland who are Atheists. But his reply to this surprised me. He said that non of the Atheists on NL are 100% Nigerians.

And this brings me to the description of what a 100% Nigerian is. A 100% Nigeria is an individual who was born in Nigeria, to 100% Nigerian parents, did his primary and secondary school in Nigeria, wrote jamb and waec in Nigeria, and did his Higher institutional learning in Nigeria. He doesn't have non Nigerian relatives and hasn't been outside Nigeria before, at least before he became an Atheist.

Is there anyone like this on Nairaland? I really want to prove my friend wrong.

NB: Atheist, as used in this context, is just a general term for those who don't sympathize with Theism. You could be an Atheist or Deist or Pantheist or whatever vague term or description you choose to use to classify your views on mankind's purpose in the universe, that doesn't fall under organized religion.

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crixtex:
By the. time most of these dumb atheist close their eyes, i hope wen they see the Lord Jesus Christ, dey wont feel disappointed after.letting the Devil trick them with atheism...

Even the wickedest man ever lived, Aleister Crowley believed in God and was sorry over his wrongful life after all his atheism and sadomaso lifestyle ....

Anton Lavey the founder of the Church of satan, wept at his death bed...

Shun Atheism, Believe in the Lord Jesus and be saved from God's coming wrath.....

KingEbukaNaija:


He is most likely a deist . Deists are nonreligious .



We Christians have accessed the kind of evidence you want to support God's existence and come on its ludicrous . You cannot subject a supernatural being to any scientific observation .

So since you are clearly not 100 percent certain , will you recant your unbelief in God if you discover your kind of evidence that proves His existence ?

hopefulLandlord:

Bros, you can't prove there is god anymore than you can't prove we weren't created 2 minutes ago with memories implanted

KingEbukaNaija:


He is most likely a deist . Deists are nonreligious .

We Christians have accessed the kind of evidence you want to support God's existence and come on its ludicrous . You cannot subject a supernatural being to any scientific observation.

So since you are clearly not 100 percent certain , will you recant your unbelief in God if you discover your kind of evidence that proves His existence ?

Teempakguy:
Alright, this is me being friendly right now.In the long run, there is no useful distinction between Atheists and Deists. Both sets of people reject the Idea of a personal God: a notion which is central to Christianity. Being a Deist, as opposed to being an Atheist, has no advantages, both sets of people are going to burn in your hell, both sets of people are more likely to believe in scientific explanations of creation as opposed to creation stories, both sets of people do not believe in an intervening God, and by extension, the validity of prayers.
That you're so obsessed with the difference baffles me. Deist or Atheist is simply a matter of choice and from my observations, the majority of Deists are really just Agnostics who've developed an emotional connection to Order, Logic, and Rationality. that they begin to develop reverence for it. Being one or the other doesn't help your cause in anyway.


But Thomas subjected Jesus to direct observation and he happily obliged. Is God partial now? I know he went all "blessed are those who believe without seeing . . . " stuff, but some people don't care about "blessed" they care about seeing. he made them that way.

That's . . . what atheists have been repeating since the dawn of time. our own kind of evidence is called objective and unambiguous evidence. If that is offered, Sure. But then, it wouldn't be "belief". it would be "acceptance" get it?

Atheist personalities don't care for belief in claims. they care for acceptance of facts. That's the fundamental difference between our brains.

KingEbukaNaija:

Teempakguy:
Oh, I see, you're on troll mode tonight.

I'll see you when you get your sanity back.

KingEbukaNaija:


Bro . When you atheists start your illogical explanations about anything , just start with "in my opinion" so I'll know the delusion is exclusive to you . Stop making stupid statements like they are established facts . Read up deism and mention when you understand the concept .

Teempakguy:
Definition of Deism: belief in the existence of a supreme being, specifically of a creator who does not intervene in the universe.

I'm sorry, how does this conflict with what I wrote?

Teempakguy:
Alright, this is me being friendly right now.In the long run, there is no useful distinction between Atheists and Deists. Both sets of people reject the Idea of a personal God: a notion which is central to Christianity. Being a Deist, as opposed to being an Atheist, has no advantages, both sets of people are going to burn in your hell, both sets of people are more likely to believe in scientific explanations of creation as opposed to creation stories, both sets of people do not believe in an intervening God, and by extension, the validity of prayers.

That you're so obsessed with the difference baffles me. Deist or Atheist is simply a matter of choice and from my observations, the majority of Deists are really just Agnostics who've developed an emotional connection to Order, Logic, and Rationality. that they begin to develop reverence for it. Being one or the other doesn't help your cause in anyway.

1. Will a Deist go to heaven according to christian doctrine?

2. Will a Deist expect his/her prayers to be answered?

3. Will a Deist reject evolution because they have some religion that directly conflicts with it?

4. Will a Deist reject the big bang theory, as opposed to attributing it to a non-intervening creator?

5. Will a Deist Describe a creator anthropologically or otherwise?

6. Will a Deist be obligated to propagate his/her beliefs upon promise of eternal life?

7. Will a Deist Take the bible to be the Ultimate source of Knowledge and wisdom in the world?

Like I earlier said, I'll see you when you get your sanity back.

KingEbukaNaija:
Honestly I consider myself an atheist going by the definition . It says atheism is the lack of belief in God . Belief is the confidence in the truth of something without proof . I have confidence in the reality of God's existence and I have proof so it makes me an Atheist . If you contravene my logic , then you have to accept that Atheism is actually the belief that there is no God .

Weah96:


Atheism is not the lack of belief in God.
Atheism is the belief that God doesn't exist. There's a difference.

Meanwhile, the OP is basically saying that continuously living in Nigeria is a necessary fertilizer for theism. I agree. Even NEPA alone encourages a belief in one religion or the other.

KingEbukaNaija:


Bro , check the snippet .Which is which ?


I don't really care . Its his opinion , he is entitled to it

Weah96:


You said atheism is a lack of belief in God. I disagreed. I said atheism is the belief that God doesn't exist.

Your snippet agrees with ME. When you say atheists don't believe in God, it leaves open the possibility that atheists know God exists.

Atheists don't believe that God exists. That's the reason why we don't believe in God.

There are some people who feel that God f.ucked up their lives, and therefore chose to go rogue against the celestial regime. They decided not to believe in him for that reason. Those people are not atheists. They are theists gone rogue, the embodiment of madness on steroids.

N.B. Note that your snippet says atheism is the lack of belief in the EXISTENCE of God or god. Its not the gods or God itself but their existence.

Seun:
He used to be nonreligious until he married his catholic wife. Now he talks with both sides of his mouth.

There is no real difference between the types of atheists. We all agree that there is virtually no good evidence for the existence of any God. The probability that any God exists is very very low, but not zero. Gnostic vs agnostic atheism is a matter of style, not substance. Even Richard Dawkins won't say he's 100% sure.

Seun:
I'm also a 100% Nigerian atheist. When I deconverted, the only atheists I knew were Tai Solarin and Bill Gates. I only recently started watching and reading vocal atheists like Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris. There's so much to learn.

GrizzlyBear:
I had a discussion with an Atheist friend yesterday, and that discussion raised an interesting question.
My friend, confidently proposed, that there is hardly any full blooded, 100% Nigerian, living in Nigeria,( and I'll explain the meaning of this phrase later on), that is an atheist. And as a reply to that, I happily told him I knew lots of 100% Nigerians on Nairaland who are Atheists. But his reply to this surprised me. He said that non of the Atheists on NL are 100% Nigerians.

And this brings me to the description of what a 100% Nigerian is. A 100% Nigeria is an individual who was born in Nigeria, to 100% Nigerian parents, did his primary and secondary school in Nigeria, wrote jamb and waec in Nigeria, and did his Higher institutional learning in Nigeria. He doesn't have non Nigerian relatives and hasn't been outside Nigeria before, at least before he became an Atheist.

Is there anyone like this on Nairaland? I really want to prove my friend wrong.

NB: Atheist, as used in this context, is just a general term for those who don't sympathize with Theism. You could be an Atheist or Deist or Pantheist or whatever vague term or description you choose to use to classify your views on mankind's purpose in the universe, that doesn't fall under organized religion.

Cc

Seun, Plaetton , Johnydon22 ilovetheline, JackBizzle, Kay17, AgentOfAllah, Ayomikun37 , sonOfLucifer , frank317 muskeeto , Decker , PastorAIO , ValentineMary , Pyrrho , braithwaite , dragonEmperor , theoneJabulani , lepasharon , cloudgoddess , ifenes , brigance , stephenmorris , thehomer , dalaman , Ranchhoddas , hoefullandlord , weah96 , CAPSLOCKED , lilbrown007 , Elohim1, unclesnr, thebrightest hahn LoJ plaetton otemanuduno sleekAfonja omenka Tonyebarcanista TomHagen NgeneUkwenu Holargyde EBLABOR AnakinSkywalker AnonyNymous joseph1013

hopefulLandlord:

Bros, you can't prove there is god anymore than you can't prove we weren't created 2 minutes ago with memories implanted

GrizzlyBear:
I had a discussion with an Atheist friend yesterday, and that discussion raised an interesting question.
My friend, confidently proposed, that there is hardly any full blooded, 100% Nigerian, living in Nigeria,( and I'll explain the meaning of this phrase later on), that is an atheist. And as a reply to that, I happily told him I knew lots of 100% Nigerians on Nairaland who are Atheists. But his reply to this surprised me. He said that non of the Atheists on NL are 100% Nigerians.

And this brings me to the description of what a 100% Nigerian is. A 100% Nigeria is an individual who was born in Nigeria, to 100% Nigerian parents, did his primary and secondary school in Nigeria, wrote jamb and waec in Nigeria, and did his Higher institutional learning in Nigeria. He doesn't have non Nigerian relatives and hasn't been outside Nigeria before, at least before he became an Atheist.

Is there anyone like this on Nairaland? I really want to prove my friend wrong.

NB: Atheist, as used in this context, is just a general term for those who don't sympathize with Theism. You could be an Atheist or Deist or Pantheist or whatever vague term or description you choose to use to classify your views on mankind's purpose in the universe, that doesn't fall under organized religion.

Cc

Seun, Plaetton , Johnydon22 ilovetheline, JackBizzle, Kay17, AgentOfAllah, Ayomikun37 , sonOfLucifer , frank317 muskeeto , Decker , PastorAIO , ValentineMary , Pyrrho , braithwaite , dragonEmperor , theoneJabulani , lepasharon , cloudgoddess , ifenes , brigance , stephenmorris , thehomer , dalaman , Ranchhoddas , hoefullandlord , weah96 , CAPSLOCKED , lilbrown007 , Elohim1, unclesnr, thebrightest hahn LoJ plaetton otemanuduno sleekAfonja omenka Tonyebarcanista TomHagen NgeneUkwenu Holargyde EBLABOR AnakinSkywalker AnonyNymous joseph1013

hopefulLandlord:

By the time most of these dumb Christians close their eyes, I hope when they see Mohammed S.A.W they won't feel disappointed after letting Jesus trick them with Christianity


How did it end for your so called 12 disciples?

https://www.nairaland.com/3161796/apostles-jesus-christ-how-died



Shun Christianity, believe in Islam and be saved from Allah's coming wrath

JackBizzle:
Interesting thread. Good to see our Nigerian bred atheists.

As for kingebukanaija, trolling this thread will not convert any atheist to christianity

KingEbukasBlog:


The touts in the car parks are 100 percent Nigerian atheists - fun fact . If you think it's a lie try preaching to them , they go ballistic just like you people

TomHagen:
Liar. How many atheists have gone ballistic on you?

KingEbukasBlog:


Dude , I just told what to do if you think it's a lie . Why don't you want to accept that most Nigerian atheists are illiterates and derelicts , the touts.

TomHagen:
No you should try telling a tout there is no God and see what would happen.

KingEbukaNaija:


Bill Gates is not an atheist of whatever type . Irreligiousity =! atheism . Having no religion does not make you an atheist . Bill Gate is most likely a deist . "It makes sense to believe in God" as he puts it .