idupaul:


Don't turn this issue into a sectarian one ..where did anyone mention Islam.
All we are saying is that the govt has once more proven that it only make poor economic decision by going on to subsidizing forex for a religious excursion . As usual you pay per post agent are bent on turning the narrative into a sectarian one.

poor economic decision,like how??..you are making no sense...

in a democraticaly system the goverment doesnt have the much power over a bank....

you dont understand the world you live in.....

Progressive01:
Yet at the drop of a hat, someone like you wouldn't mind spending the rest of your life in UAE.

Smh.

Even your brothers throng there to do business on a daily basis.

Such a damn shame what religious intolerance has turned some of you people into.

For all intents and purposes, Indonesia is an Islamic country.

Yet, it's the Muslim hating Israelis from the Yeest that throng there in their hundreds seeking the same prosperity and progress they claim to be incompatible with Islam. Yet they complain they're being turned into firewood.

The same way they claim the North is backward and intolerant yet they have an entire LGA dedicated to them in Kano where they earn their living, raise generations and die.

It's no coincidence they're becoming endangered species in both locations.

fulanmafia:


For all intents and purposes, Indonesia is an Islamic country.

Yet, it's the Muslim hating Israelis from the Yeest that throng there in their hundreds seeking the same prosperity and progress they claim to be incompatible with Islam. Yet they complain they're being turned into firewood.

The same way they claim the North is backward and intolerant yet they have an entire LGA dedicated to them in Kano where they earn their living, raise generations and die.

It's no coincidence they're becoming endangered species in both locations.

tahhh...dont mind dem...the 95% know they are bigots and imbeciles....

the yorubas say agbaya....

tsdarkside:


poor economic decision,like how??..you are making no sense...

in a democraticaly system the goverment doesnt have the much power over a bank....

you dont understand the world you live in.....

So you think the CBN did this without instructions from president Buhari?

idupaul:


So you think the CBN did this without instructions from president Buhari?

look..when did they give up the intervention of the currencies and let the naira float??..

wasnt it then when buhari was handling is ear-infection abroad and osinbajo was in charge for ten days??......

cbn is alot of power,and alot of allies in the world...powerfull allies...

dont underestimate cbn....

dont underestimate central banks....

modath:


He is just trolling... I don waka pass!!



@ idupaul ,

Name calling are we? Did you object when christians got concession? And yes, the angst & uproar is cos it's Buhari and hajj not because it's misplacement of priorities. ... no one is in any doubt.... we all know ourselves in this country..

Why are you you guys making it a sectarian issue ..did I mention anything about religion ..The naira has been on a steady decline and the economy is in a very bad state so tell me is this the time to subsidize some religious excursion?

Abeg if you quote me and you don't get a reply, just know you don't deserve one and know where you belong.

Thanks.

isbish:
Well written. God is protecting PMB. The haters love to castigate and slander him all the time, but the president if focused to make Nigeria a better place. God bless PMB...carryon sir, Majority of us are with you.

Am with you

Am supporting Apc govt but am not with Buhari on this, this is a bias move against importers and am disapointed. Why would you rob peter to pay paul?

modath:


Dollar to 50 naira, are we talking economics or cartoon?

You are intent on trolling, i don't have the patience nor the nerve for long back and forth, bye......

the problem explaining to you already start...

you just dont want to understand...

you are a mental-crook....you are mental-corrupt...

cbn will survive with you or without you....

peace...

[size=15pt]WE ARE REALLY THE CAUSE OF OUR PROBLEMS.

WHY SHOULD THE GOVERNMENT SPONSOR ANY RELIGIOUS EXCURSION?
CHRISTIAN, MUSLIM OR TRADITION EXCURSIONS SHOULD BE EXPUNGED FROM OUR BUDGETS.

AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE HAVE MANY PRIORITIES IN NIGERIA AND REGIOUS EXCURSIONS SHOULDN'T BE ONE OF THEM.

11 MILLION DOLLARS WILL BUILD A WORLD CLASS SCHOOL, A WORLD CLASS HOSPITAL, A WORLD CLASS ROAD..... AND THE LIST GOES ON!!!

GODDAMNIT!![/size]

zombies doing what they know best




nothing new here

rozayx5:
zombies doing what they know best




nothing new here

i know only one thing....blood-guilt must be tilgd...we warn you a looooooonnnng time ago...

But the 2015 hajj was still under buhari? Give us example from 1999 to 2014

fulanmafia:
Well outlined truism.

The fact is that Jonathanians have still not gotten over their hero's defeat and are acting like bulls in a China shop in the name of being in opposition.

The vile hypocrisy that has become the hallmark of their politicking only underlines their desperation to demonize the President even if it means appearing like extremist bigots with the memory capacity of a tse-tse fly.

You cannot squeeze oil out of a block of ice. It's not surprising that PDP's band of minions have become shameless intolerant religious bigots considering the history of the party. This was the same party that said Osibanjo owned 5000 churches while campaigning in the North so northerners wouldn't vote for the APC, while also calling the same party an Islamic party while campaigning in the South. Religious bigotry and borderline extremism is in their DNA.

I'm also not in support of state sponsored pilgrimages for similar reasons, and the culture it has become should be stopped, especially considering the paucity of funds that Nigeria suffers, however with that said, the furore that has been generated by bigoted wailers smacks of sheer hypocrisy and should be ignored in the understanding that they are going through a very difficult and painful period, climaxed by their defeated hero's recent instruction that they should embrace Sherriff the boko sponsor as their Chairman.

Wailers need hugs right now, not smacks.

Thatnk you, I read about Angola, I pity the most expensive country in the world before the Oil crisis now in crisis.

Maybe is Buhari that destroy Angola economy.

Okada abeg park here.

The truth is government should not participate in religious activities.

There should be no subsidy to Christians or Muslims. If you want to go on pilgrimage so much pay for it.

Where I in power in my acceptance speech that's the first thing I would cancel. No more religion in government.


Do your stuff by yourself. Simple.

This guy is fuckin g foolish.... Do you know how much dollar was a year ago? maybe 245-250..... and today dollar is $400...and some people are paying less than half of the Parallel price.... WTF are you saying?

Is this even the right time for this? Instead of doing something that will make forex easier for manufacturers and SME, they are subsidizing dollar for Hajj that won't add to the economy..... I don't think the op even deal with anything FOREX, so he can't understand....

ify84:
But the 2015 hajj was still under buhari? Give us example from 1999 to 2014

do you even understand what cbn is..??..

do you understand,imf,international monetary systems.....

i bet you,one day,the nigerian goverment will have no choice than to close all parallel markets in nigeria....

the nigerian goverment can say anytime "okay,we give you 1naira for 1dollar".....they can do this!!!.....would you agree??.....

I get what you mean OP.

However, like I said on the other thread, government has no business subsidising religious tourism. Not especially in these austere times. I would have expected the president/CBN to make an example of the hajj such that no one else will scream blue murder when we don't have such subsidies for Christians next year.

The Nigerian state needs get her priorities right!

I think you did not read the article to end. Because he nailed it in the last paragraph, that gift should stop intervening in the issue of Pilgrim welfare completely. It should be a personal issue. Such as subsidizing for the Pilgrim. And as a Muslim I agree with him.

iamblisz:
@progressive01 its good to see that you supported your argument with facts but I still don't think Mr president did the right thing,.

Nigerian economy is already in recession spending such money on pilgrims( christians and muslims)will not help it but rather worsen it

A lot of businesses have closed down because of scarcity and increase in dollar, making this dollars available at this rate given to this pilgrims will do a lot of good to this businesses

Resently the Nigeria Olympics team are complaining of lack of govt support , am not saying giving them money will improve the economy but it would have made more sense than giving it to pilgrims cause I believe pilgrimage expenses should fully come from those who are interested in embarking in it.

Most especially those erosion tribe and Christians lament for nothing , always finding fault where there is nothing.

For me, the OP missed the point.
The outcry(maybe from my standpoint) is when our scarce forex is given to things that will not boost our falling economy, while economic items are allowed to suffer in the black market.
Its not about xtian and muslim.

tsdarkside:


do you even understand what cbn is..??..

do you understand,imf,international monetary systems.....

i bet you,one day,the nigerian goverment will have no choice than to close all parallel markets in nigeria....

the nigerian goverment can say anytime "okay,we give you 1naira for 1dollar".....they can do this!!!.....would you agree??.....

I did not understand you.. . My post is asking if such dollar exchange rate happened in 2014 downwards?

The Op is a member of our APC fan club, I support him but I'm getting tired of hunger in our Buhari's regime.

gurunlocker:
This guy is fuckin g foolish.... Do you know how much dollar was a year ago? maybe 245-250..... and today dollar is $400...and some people are paying less than half of the Parallel price.... WTF are you saying?

Is this even the right time for this? Instead of doing something that will make forex easier for manufacturers and SME, they are subsidizing dollar for Hajj that won't add to the economy..... I don't think the op even deal with anything FOREX, so he can't understand....

floating rubbish...they think their buying and selling power mean anything compared to the rest of the world...

ugu and drug pendling idiiiiottts.....!!!!

The problem with most of you is that you are more interested in defending the image of the president than actually pushing for the survival of this country.

There is no where in the world where the president is 100% loved. The kind of insults rendered to Bush and Obama by thier people is enough to shutdown the internet.
That the president approved for Christains does not make this a wise decision and it is not compulsory that it must be continued given the fact our situation has gotten worse. There were people who criticised it then and are still doing it now.
Anyway, as long you guys have decided to be partizan, it is expected that your thinking will be laced with sentiments and would remain shallow and that is why i don't take you guys serious.
If you want to be taken serious, don't allign yourself to any of these our stupid parties or politicians.

Progressive01:
[s]I'd skip the pleasantries and get right to the point of this.

Nigeria is indeed a country of boundless absurdities, most of which were "invented" and found their way to the fore just after the exit of PDP which "ruled" the country for sixteen years uninterrupted.

The oddity in the attitude of the average political commentator we see today, especially from those who pitched their tent with PDP in the last election, stem more from the fact they are predominantly Christians and can't seem to stomach the thought of being led by a Muslim.

Their party leadership spared no expense in sowing the seed of religious intolerance in the hearts of Nigerians, through their dogged sponsorship of inflammable propaganda, the fruits of which we are reaping today in no small measure.

Yesterday, it was reported the Central Bank will be subsidising the dollar for intending Hajj pilgrims, and as expected, mixed, mostly negative, reactions have trailed the announcement and as expected, those people who've sworn to ensure the president is seen by all as a religious bigot have seized the opportunity to spread their propaganda throughout print and electronic media.

Time and again, we have seen that no sooner do they launch the attacks than history comes to the rescue of Mr President.

One could fault the President on a whole lot of fronts, why not. He's a mare mortal and as such must have his own imperfections. But one thing you certainly can't call the president is "religious bigot".

Here are but a few events in the past that shed light on exactly who the religious bigot is between mr President and his accusers:

1. FG Earmarks $11million for Christian pilgrims.

This was done less than a year ago. An interesting part is that the maximum amount entitled to each pilgrim is the same as what we have today- $1000 and at a lower rate of N160/dollar since the naira had more value then as opposed of N197/dollar today!!

The economy wasn't really faring any better then.

Pray tell, where were the voices of these later day activists/economists when this happened??!!

2. Buhari Cancels Govt Delegation to Hajj

Again, to show his "extreme love for Muslims and his disdain for Christians", mr President shelved plans to send a FG delegation to Hajj 2015. We didn't see "Christians" take over cyberspace to "condemn" this extreme demonstration of bigotry by the president.

Today, he's done for Muslims what he did for Christians and social media has literally been set on fire!!

3. FG Approves 65% Tax Waiver For Christian Pilgrims.

This was done earlier this year under this grim economic atmosphere, yet we never heard as much as a whistle from nobody!!

These and many more instances where the FG under President M. Buhari intervened to make things a lot easier for Christian pilgrims never became major talking points- but as soon as anything is done by the president that seem to favour Muslims, who are no less citizens of this country than Christians, it becomes a huge problem- no thanks to religious bigots who think themselves Christians!

I have been going to church since I was 3 and been listening to pastors, reverend, bishops, etc, preach the word- never a day have I heard any of them extol hate or bigotry as a virtue! Nowhere in the Bible have I read such (not that I always read the bible anyway).

Where then did these Nigerian "christians" propagating this brand of "christianity" where Muslims MUST be hated get their doctrine- PDP constitution??

Myself and many other well meaning Nigerians have been advocating that government completely hands of sponsorship of pilgrimage. Man's relationship with God is their private business and must be treated as such. If one chooses to visit Mecca or Jerusalem or the Bohemian Groove or Okija Shrine to commune with their God, let them sort their expenses out themselves!! If they can't bear the cost, they should sit asses at home and pray- God is omnipresent and can hear them from wherever whenever.

PDP "apologised" for their toxic brand of politics the other day- it would do Nigeria a whole lot of good if the party called her members and supporters to order as that "apology" appears not to have registered on their minds. Heating up the polity with religion does no one no good, certainly not a party that seeks to return to the center in 3years time.

Had the constituent units of the current governing party conducted themselves in this manner when they were the major opposition parties, imagine what the country would have looked like today.

When you set the entire country ablaze, when then would be left to rule over afterwards, her ashes??

Let a word be enough for the wise.

Thank you[/s].

your country is in a recession, manufacturers and importers don't have access to forex and you're here talking nonsense