winner01: And you are bent on letting us know this why? , By 7:26am on a Wednesday morning. Do these guys rest well atall? , over a God that supposedly does not exist? . Another one opened an anti-christian thread around 12:30 midnight the other day as well. Even foreigners have built atheist mega churches? . Why all these rage against Christianity, Is there something unique about christianity that you desperately need us to renounce? You people really need us not to believe in God with you and that is where I come in. The thought of God gives you sleepless nights and you are bent on transferring your misfortune to others. Christians believe in the existence of the 4200+ gods as gods of men so what exactly do you want us to disprove? . I dont loose sleep over fairytales but you and other atheists all seem addicted to discussing a fairytale even at the detriment of your health. You may need the help of a psychiatrist.
You are missing the point. I have never tried to prove that God is real to you or any atheist and I'm not ready to do that ever. The burden of proof is on you people who constantly spend everyday of your life here, to rain curse words on God, mock the christian beliefs, belittle sincere christians and need us not to believe in God with you.
We do not open threads to prove the existence of God to atheists or other raging individuals but to prove the foolishness of atheism and give some evidence pointing to a Creator. Other christians on this section open threads to reflect their christian beliefs to other believers. Atheists on the other hand constantly invade this section (meant for religious people to share their beliefs as shown in the picture below) to express their rage against God and christianity and then demand for proof of something we have not stamped on their hearts initially.
If you on the other hand are bent on proving to us that there is no God as shown in your desperation, determination and sleepless nights, then you need to give proof. Christians are not here to prove anything to you but to share their beliefs among each other on a section that has been created solely for that purpose.
If you insist that you must be here to share your belief unbelief as well try to force your unbelief down the throat of believers through mockery, cursing and other meaningless show of desperation, then you need to give proof of your stand. However, we understand that you need to know all things (Omniscience) before you can reasonably make the assertion that "there is no God", and so we understand your frustration.
About Elijah's challenge: You've missed a serious point.
Elijah was a prophet of God who was strictly commanded by God to carry out that test as shown in 1 kings 18:36b. Before Elijah started the his part of the test, he called out to God and said "Show these people that you commanded me to do all these things".
If you are really sincere, God will reveal himself to you. This Hindu priest is an example of a sincere human looking for answers. He is a Guru of Gurus, the christian equivalent of a bishop, but a very sincere man. God appeared to him and gave him specific instructions
If you record it then what? At best, you will find a new way to describe the phenomenon. Nothing can serve as evidence for someone who really does not want God to exist.
Examine this quote from a really sincere atheist. Thomas Nagel, American philosopher, currently University Professor of Philosophy and Law Emeritus at New York University. He said: "I want atheism to be true and am made uneasy by the fact that some of the most intelligent and well-informed people I know are religious believers. It isn't just that I don't believe in God and, naturally, I hope that I'm right in my belief. It's that I hope there is no God! I don't want there to be a God; I don't want the universe to be like that."
Now that's sincerity.
We are not interested in proving you wrong. We are more interested in extending the love of Christ and also providing logical explanations and evidences that show the folly of atheism and other lies. Its God's work to prove his existence to His creatures. Just as He proved His existence to this Muslim who was captured and tortured by ISIS and left the militants base unnoticed, took a cab and went back to the concentration camp to meet his wife, who told him that a man earlier appeared to her and assured her that he will come back home.
hahn, I'm fully in support of this. If you need any resource to help you cover the activities on that date, just holler. Let's end this once and for all. Meanwhile do not fall for the tricks in engaging those who will not make any meaningful posts but only ad hominems like this poster and other logical fallacies in a bid to derail the purpose of the thread, just ignore them and focus on the task ahead.
I agree. All we need now is proof on tape. Oya. What is the date?
You want proof on tape? Did you watch the YouTube videos Winner01 posted or you need more? Are you for real?
Can't you see this line is too rusty? Shouldn't you try something else? Satan has been asking this same question from the beginning, you his stooges have been on it too. It's becoming too much of a cliche.
YAHWEH can't be brought to a context with Satan. They are not competing for anything. Besides, if there was to be a contest, we call it, not you, "We" don't take instructions from lower beings. You can't summon the Only Potentate, Dem never born you.
*To Satan* Keep pushing, but those who know you, recognises you. You speak with the voice of hahn and the rest here, saying the same thing, applying the same tactics, from generation to generation, but your voice never changes. "We" know who you are.
The ignorant will fall into your lies, but those in the Light won't. You are a master of Pride, you hope we would lay down our guard and allow pride into us and be moved to try to proof anything thereby Sinning. No We won't.
To the ignorant onlooker it may seem as though you are winning, then win. But deep down you know you've lost, because you failed to achieve your aim. You lose, that's why your servants can't rest. That's why you can't rest.
Jesus doesn't join words with demons in a contest. Your servants doesn't know this, but you do. You keep pushing them on, and ignorantly they they fall to your whims.
To hahn- I am the proof you need. But like Winner01 said, even if it happens right in front of you, the demon in you will still dictate to you what you should believe.
hahn, you were in NL before I did, and since then, it's been "There's no God". "Show me any evidence that there is". Aren't you convinced of that fact all this year's? How long will it take for you to be convinced that here's no God?
Wait, do you think that saying it continuously will annihilate God? Do you need a psychiatrist? because, I perceive a retardation.
Something has to be wrong with atheists. Do they watch all these videos yet till say there's no God? Ah, Satan...
Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don't believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don't understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God. 2 Cor. 4:4
circuit101: nigu!:..jesus did alot of miracles in d bible even in front of d so called nonbelievers,he dnt discriminate...he trusted in d power of god and isnt scared about an unanswerd prayer..
This just a simple test man...in fact u can record it urself ,i mean a stunning miracle,u dnt need an approval or an agreement from an atheist to walk into any hospital and heal at least a person and record it....thats all.....
Stop all this fail-safe mechanism.
See how you smashed your testicles with a stone. Awwww!!!, that must hurt. You believe Jesus performed miracles, yet you want us to proof that he exists. Wonderful!!!!! What an intelligent bag of cells. Hahahahahahahaha.
You want proof on tape? Did you watch the YouTube videos Winner01 posted or you need more? Are you for real?
Can't you see this line is too rusty? Shouldn't you try something else? Satan has been asking this same question from the beginning, you his stooges have been on it too. It's becoming too much of a cliche.
YAHWEH can't be brought to a context with Satan. They are not competing for anything. Besides, if there was to be a contest, we call it, not you, "We" don't take instructions from lower beings. You can't summon the Only Potentate, Dem never born you.
*To Satan* Keep pushing, but those who know you, recognises you. You speak with the voice of hahn and the rest here, saying the same thing, applying the same tactics, from generation to generation, but your voice never changes. "We" know who you are.
The ignorant will fall into your lies, but those in the Light won't. You are a master of Pride, you hope we would lay down our guard and allow pride into us and be moved to try to proof anything thereby Sinning. No We won't.
To the ignorant onlooker it may seem as though you are winning, then win. But deep down you know you've lost, because you failed to achieve your aim. You lose, that's why your servants can't rest. That's why you can't rest.
Jesus doesn't join words with demons in a contest. Your servants doesn't know this, but you do. You keep pushing them on, and ignorantly they they fall to your whims.
To hahn- I am the proof you need. But like Winner01 said, even if it happens right in front of you, the demon in you will still dictate to you what you should believe.
hahn, you were in NL before I did, and since then, it's been "There's no God". "Show me any evidence that there is". Aren't you convinced of that fact all this year's? How long will it take for you to be convinced that here's no God?
Wait, do you think that saying it continuously will annihilate God? Do you need a psychiatrist? because, I perceive a retardation.
No material can serve as proof enough to them. If Hahn gets proof, cloudgoddess may probably say he's hallucinating, dalaman may say he's deluded etc. They will always find a way to explain it away.
They are actually not the enemies, thats why we need to pray for them.
Diagoras of Melos and his cohorts waged the same war against God in the 5th century, today (21st century) his descendants are still trying to eradicate the God that created them. Its not that they merely lack a belief, its a deliberate battle with their conscience - if not , most of them wouldn't care about the beliefs of others.
God bless you Sis, lets just include them in our prayers.
winner01: No material can serve as proof enough to them. If Hahn gets proof, cloudgoddess may probably say he's hallucinating, dalaman may say he's deluded etc. They will always find a way to explain it away.
They are actually not the enemies, thats why we need to pray for them.
Diagoras of Melos and his cohorts waged the same war against God in the 5th century, today (21st century) his descendants are still trying to eradicate the God that created them. Its not that they merely lack a belief, its a deliberate battle with their conscience - if not , most of them wouldn't care about the beliefs of others.
God bless you Sis, lets just include them in our prayers.
That's all we owe them. It's really so funny. If any of them ever turns around and believes, the others will all so suddenly turn against him.
I recall Silverlord who almost chopped my head off sometime ago returning to say he is now convinced there's God, they all crowded him and threatened to take him to the slaughter, he ran. Lolzz.
winner01: Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don't believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don't understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God. 2 Cor. 4:4
But these are men who have nothing to gain, but alot to loose if they lie about Jesus. They can't possibly say they are lying.
CoolUsername: Jesus specifically told you guys to spread Christianity.
Winner01, there's no excuse for you not to pick a date to end this argument. The very fact that all 1 billion of you guys haven't done this is surprising.
If there's going to he a date, we fix it, not you. Darkness doesn't command light.
I once told Bubu that I used to attend Lord's chosen at Ijesha and I once sat down at the last row of the church.
None of the people who came for "deliverance" there got healed. And Muoka was there
They were all sitting down on the ground till the end of the service and ended up going back home even worse than they came. With extra disappointment.
Kingebukasblog, however, said I was lying.
In Lord's Chosen, when Muoka is preaching, it gets to a point where he asks everyone to close their eyes and raise up their hands whenever they hear a particular "sin" they commit.
No one is permitted to open their eyes. Then he goes on to pray that all your sins are all gone etc.
One part I like about Muoka though is when he says, before offering, "If you got your money via illegal means do NOT put it in the offering bag". And even though he always goes on to say "but it if you put it in, go back home and continue to sin no more" I feel the guy.
The purpose of this thread is simple.
You claim to be "born-again" and it is written in the bible that god will do miraculous things through you. Heal the sick, raise the dead etc.
If it truly works, then let's go to Igbobi. Shikena
Hahn, then you went as a church goer, now go as a fact finder. Take those items, go with someone else as a witness, do as u are told. hahn, do it and post what you'll record here. And, Ebuka, watch this guy, make sure to attend the same service, and pls record it too. The same date, the same activities. when he posts his, you post yours. He'll never do it.
Seun: The tragedy of religion is that it draws people in with these sorts of promises, and they invest so much of their time and money in it, but when they need it most, it fails. People don't realize that divine healing is a mirage until they are plagued by incurable diseases. Some of them don't even realize it at that point, thinking that the problem is their lack of faith, which is ridiculous since an all-powerful God can heal you whether or not you have faith. Before you get sick, healing is a divine promise, paid for by the blood of Jesus! After you get seriously sick, God works in mysterious ways. That seems like a classic bait and switch scam to me.
Sir, you can be the witness, accompany hahn to The Lord's Chosen and proof to the world how fake Christ is.
Seun: Did you record any of these miracles with your phone camera as they were happening before your very eyes? It is quite easy to give gullible people the impression that miracles are happening before their very eyes. If you tell people that faith is key to their healing and that confession is a way to express that faith, and you use hypnotic music and the testimony of paid actors to move their emotions, some of them will confess to having been healed when in fact they have not been healed of anything.
Mr seun, may be you think I am doing comedy here, because what you wrote here sounds like a comedy to me. You may be serious, but try to ask questions that would make you really look serious in cases like this, not an insult, my opinion.
Asking me if I recorded what happened in my very eyes BACK THEN, is like asking for a video proof that shows your mum really giving birth to you in a hospital labour room. If I should insist that absence of a video proof is the evidence of proof that your mum didn't give birth to you, IT IS SIMPLY A PLAIN FOOLISHNESS. And this is what atheism is all about.
That I didn't record it doesn't mean it didn't happen, BECAUSE I SAW HAPPENING RIGHT ON MY FACE! SEUN, you may find it hard to believe me, but it does not, in anyway, make me feel like I am lying because I SAW RIGHT ON MY FACE!!!!!!
Mind you seun, I didn't say somebody told me or that I heard. What I am saying is that I SAW IT!
What did I see?
1 Shorten hand STRECHING OUT RIGHT ON MY FACE!
2. 15years mad woman ON CHAIN HEALED RIGHT ON MY FACE!
3. Blindness healed RIGHT ON MY FACE!
4. TERRIBLY DISLOCATED JOINT HEALED RIGHT ON MY FACE!
5. Thousands of people falling down under the anointing on my face, just at the moment pastor swipe his hand across the church ON MY FACE!
6. My younger brother suffered from a serious kidney problem, despite all the money wasted on science via medicine, the last thing the doctor told us was that we have two options, going to india OR death. And if we go to india and he is not treated well then death many be the next thing. Mr seun, I am NOT telling you about what someone told me, but this is happening to my immediate younger brother. At the night of that day, my brother was ALREADY LOOKING DEAD. All our family FIERCELY PRAYED. The next day, he said he was feeling better . Then the next day he suggested that we should take him for a kidney test. When the result came out, the FIRST thing the doctor said was "WHAT HAPPEN?" And he started crying, because it is BEYOND his scientific knowledge, hence A MIRACLE.
I have many more seun!
No offence that you asked for video proof, but it is late. If you asked it early before I saw it, I would video it myself, post it here and confirm that it is really a miracle.
But, anyway if you are really willing to know if miracles are real you can take up the challenge thrown at @hahn, which he avoided as the coward he is, and SEE IT YOURSELF. Seeing it yourself will be more believable to you than watching a video.
Just, give it a try, take up the requirement including a HD camera, embark on the investigation and honestly make your observations open on nairaland.
I saw a crippled Hausa Muslim begger get up from a bores and walked. What he had in place of legs should never be able to carry his frame, but it did. As far as am concern, that man didn't have legs. A man with legs can't sit on a flat board rolling everywhere. It didn't happen in the night, in the morning between 10 & 11 am. Before my korokoro eyes, the man got surged up as though caught up by electric current, shaking all over and rose up, at first wobbling like he would fall, people were to help him stand, they were shouted at to let him be. From where we sat, he walked to the podium, to testify. In that same program, I saw an old woman who was brought in bedridden on a stretcher before the to gramme began. She walked home. I saw here. If anyone thinks that an elderly woman will pretend to be bedridden and be brought to a church programme to deceive people, then, it's well will that person.
Mr seun, may be you think I am doing comedy here, because what you wrote here sounds like a comedy to me. You may be serious, but try to ask questions that would make you really look serious in cases like this, not an insult, my opinion.
Asking me if I recorded what happened in my very eyes BACK THEN, is like asking for a video proof that shows your mum really giving birth to you in a hospital labour room. If I should insist that absence of a video proof is the evidence of proof that your mum didn't give birth to you, IT IS SIMPLY A PLAIN FOOLISHNESS. And this is what atheism is all about.
That I didn't record it doesn't mean it didn't happen, BECAUSE I SAW HAPPENING RIGHT ON MY FACE! SEUN, you may find it hard to believe me, but it does not, in anyway, make me feel like I am lying because I SAW RIGHT ON MY FACE!!!!!!
Mind you seun, I didn't say somebody told me or that I heard. What I am saying is that I SAW IT!
What did I see?
1 Shorten hand STRECHING OUT RIGHT ON MY FACE!
2. 15years mad woman ON CHAIN HEALED RIGHT ON MY FACE!
3. Blindness healed RIGHT ON MY FACE!
4. TERRIBLY DISLOCATED JOINT HEALED RIGHT ON MY FACE!
5. Thousands of people falling down under the anointing on my face, just at the moment pastor swipe his hand across the church ON MY FACE!
6. My younger brother suffered from a serious kidney problem, despite all the money wasted on science via medicine, the last thing the doctor told us was that we have two options, going to india OR death. And if we go to india and he is not treated well then death many be the next thing. Mr seun, I am NOT telling you about what someone told me, but this is happening to my immediate younger brother. At the night of that day, my brother was ALREADY LOOKING DEAD. All our family FIERCELY PRAYED. The next day, he said he was feeling better . Then the next day he suggested that we should take him for a kidney test. When the result came out, the FIRST thing the doctor said was "WHAT HAPPEN?" And he started crying, because it is BEYOND his scientific knowledge, hence A MIRACLE.
I have many more seun!
No offence that you asked for video proof, but it is late. If you asked it early before I saw it, I would video it myself, post it here and confirm that it is really a miracle.
But, anyway if you are really willing to know if miracles are real you can take up the challenge thrown at @hahn, which he avoided as the coward he is, and SEE IT YOURSELF. Seeing it yourself will be more believable to you than watching a video.
Just, give it a try, take up the requirement including a HD camera, embark on the investigation and honestly make your observations open on nairaland.
I saw a crippled Hausa Muslim begger get up from a bores and walked. What he had in place of legs should never be able to carry his frame, but it did. As far as am concern, that man didn't have legs. A man with legs can't sit on a flat board rolling everywhere. It didn't happen in the night, in the morning between 10 & 11 am. Before my korokoro eyes, the man got surged up as though caught up by electric current, shaking all over and rose up, at first wobbling like he would fall, people were to help him stand, they were shouted at to let him be. From where we sat, he walked to the podium, to testify. In that same program, I saw an old woman who was brought in bedridden on a stretcher before the to gramme began. She walked home. I saw here. If anyone thinks that an elderly woman will pretend to be bedridden and be brought to a church programme to deceive people, then, it's well will that person.
I no send any of these people sef. If dem like, make dem no believe.
I saw a crippled Hausa Muslim begger get up from a bores and walked. What he had in place of legs should never be able to carry his frame, but it did. As far as am concern, that man didn't have legs. A man with legs can't sit on a flat board rolling everywhere. It didn't happen in the night, in the morning between 10 & 11 am. Before my korokoro eyes, the man got surged up as though caught up by electric current, shaking all over and rose up, at first wobbling like he would fall, people were to help him stand, they were shouted at to let him be. From where we sat, he walked to the podium, to testify. In that same program, I saw an old woman who was brought in bedridden on a stretcher before the to gramme began. She walked home. I saw here. If anyone thinks that an elderly woman will pretend to be bedridden and be brought to a church programme to deceive people, then, it's well will that person.
And the evil baby-eating atheists are darkness, right? You're like a neo-inquisitor, you know that?
Your opinion of me doesn't count. I maintain my stance, the Children of darkness can't call the Children of light to a contest. If there'll one, we call it, not you.
Hahn, then you went as a church goer, now go as a fact finder. Take those items, go with someone else as a witness, do as u are told. hahn, do it and post what you'll record here. And, Ebuka, watch this guy, make sure to attend the same service, and pls record it too. The same date, the same activities. when he posts his, you post yours. He'll never do it.
I'm not in Lagos but if he chooses to deceive himself , its ok . Na his life na
winner01: No material can serve as proof enough to them. If Hahn gets proof, cloudgoddess may probably say he's hallucinating, dalaman may say he's deluded etc. They will always find a way to explain it away.
They are actually not the enemies, thats why we need to pray for them.
Diagoras of Melos and his cohorts waged the same war against God in the 5th century, today (21st century) his descendants are still trying to eradicate the God that created them. Its not that they merely lack a belief, its a deliberate battle with their conscience - if not , most of them wouldn't care about the beliefs of others.
God bless you
Sis, lets just include them in our prayers.
Will you stop spewing the endless lies you use to delude your selves always? All atheist agree that an airplane can fly a person from Abuja to Lagos. We all agree that cars do same, so what nonsensical evidence are you talking about? You have no evidence only stories and empty assertions like every other religion out there.
How many other christains have you converted and made to see things your way here? If there is a God that created us you think you will be the one praying to him about us? Only a God that lives in your head will even allow you to do anything on its behalf.
Will you stop spewing the endless lies you use to delude your selves always? All atheist agree that an airplane can fly a person from Abuja to Lagos. We all agree that cars do same, so what nonsensical evidence are you talking about? You have no evidence only stories and empty assertions like every other religion out there.
How many other christains have you converted and made to see things your way here? If there is a God that created us you think you will be the one praying to him about us? Only a God that lives in your head will even allow you to do anything on its behalf.
Relax man. we are our own messengers. God uses man. Hear the Word of God, not the words of blind men.
I never claimed to be smart, only atheists are smart remember? Am a Christian. Again I say, darkness doesn't call out light for a contest, so bit it.
but I'm saying u are daft if u still hold on to fantasies and delusions of fighting imaginary dark forces...
Take time to love, appreciate nature and the freedom of the universe, give back to nature, appreciate the free air and sunshine u enjoy. Appreciate the time you have been given to spend on earth and spend it well. satan vs jesus battle is all on your head, the jewish mythology is all a script. live the life you have while it last
but I'm saying u are daft if u still hold on to fantasies and delusions of fighting imaginary dark forces...
Take time to love, appreciate nature and the freedom of the universe, give back to nature, appreciate the free air and sunshine u enjoy. Appreciate the time you have been given to spend on earth and spend it well. satan vs jesus battle is all on your head, the jewish mythology is all a script. live the life you have while it last
Here comes a smart atheist asking me to appreciate the TIME I AM GIVEN. Who gave me the time? Can't you see that you acknowledging a grand designer, a GIVER behind everything?
Here comes a smart atheist asking me to appreciate the TIME I AM GIVEN. Who gave me the time? Can't you see that you acknowledging a grand designer, a GIVER behind everything?
That's so smart of you.
may God bless you with the gift of the brain. God may exist but definitely not the god of religion. The bible Yaweh is a Jewish god jst like other cultures have their gods. That's why the bible is focused on the Jews and their genealogy.
I've asked several of your religious dimwits to explain how all races of blacks, whites, Arabs, Indians, Koreans and the rest came from a single parent. or how all the races of the world could not remember a great world disaster which destroyed all families of the world and only their Noah's family survived..
somehow, one way or the other, no race could remember except the Jews, we just couldn't trace our origin to Noah or adam and eve but religion helped us to.
Yaweh was a mere jewish god and the bible a jewish mythology that has become an instrument of mind control by the elites. They came to us and enslaved us, gave us a book to keep us in delusions..This is the matrix in play.
God may exist but definitely never the God of the bible nor Koran, the genocidal, jealous, tribal gods
may God bless you with the gift of the brain. God may exist but definitely not the god of religion. The bible Yaweh is a Jewish god jst like other cultures have their gods. That's why the bible is focused on the Jews and their genealogy.
I've asked several of your religious dimwits to explain how all races of blacks, whites, Arabs, Indians, Koreans and the rest came from a single parent. or how all the races of the world could not remember a great world disaster which destroyed all families of the world and only their Noah's family survived..
somehow, one way or the other, no race could remember except the Jews, we just couldn't trace our origin to Noah or adam and eve but religion helped us to.
Yaweh was a mere jewish god and the bible a jewish mythology that has become an instrument of mind control by the elites. They came to us and enslaved us, gave us a book to keep us in delusions..This is the matrix in play.
God may exist but definitely never the God of the bible nor Koran, the genocidal, jealous, tribal gods
If I have ever responded to your comments, I forgive myself. It won't happen again.
, By 7:26am on a Wednesday morning. 
