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Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by loswhite(m): 7:53am On Sep 02, 2016
U
Gasout:
I have warned my friends who have tried to persuade into MMM and I bluntly say 'NO!'

MMM is a fraud. What kind of blind investment gives U 30percent of Ur savings monthly?...Even banks who have better investment networks can never dare such huge percentage...

Let him that have hear; let him hear. They say if a word is enough for the wise, then a thousand words should be enough for the foolish...
so u are not aware that banks are thiefs? Make maximum use of your money and give u peanut or even deduct from it. The story of skye bank if not for CBN would have cleared this your intelligence that u think you have.

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Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by hustler86(m): 7:55am On Sep 02, 2016
easyfem:
Diz idiot just wake up and start written rusbbish ... Y u pple are so negative ... Something that is changing life of pple and u are praying it's should end up

That's what they call risk management buddy. To evrything in life thers a risk involved. Education is expensive tho, try nt to ignore.

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Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by loswhite(m): 7:57am On Sep 02, 2016
christiengeorge:
I never trusted this whole thing,my friend comes to my house everyday to preach about MMM,surprisingly he was abLe to convince my broda and his galfriend and the girl had to register with 100 k.I warned dem dey didn't heed, me am waiting for day of reckoning
lol you are praying for your brother to fail just so u can yeah I told you... well you will be shocked

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Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by ziego(m): 7:57am On Sep 02, 2016
tempest01:
I saw the current MMM advertised by a friend sometime back and I quickly waved it off as a scam as with the HYIP and other ponzi schemes.

https://www.nairaland.com/3321916/sec-warns-nigerians-dangers-mmm

Given this topic that was on the front page today, I saw some comments by people and it was noted that ''There is no pool of money with the current MMM and therefore they can't run away''.

Given the nature of their business, with no investments and the fact that they have put in resources in place to allow for this trade to happen, it is pertinent that one day or another, they will close down, and they won't go through that stress without duping people of their money. Seeing the topic today, I had to register and checkout how the model works , and also brainstorm on the eventual way the MMM operators will dupe those that are in the system.

I am giving a scenario here and though it may not play out the same way, there should be no denying the fact that one day - which i wll term as ''the day of reckoning''. the MMM site will shut operations and will try to make as much as possible from your funds before that.



Now here is the scenario. As there is no pool as someone rightly said, I registered and saw the mode of operation. It is worthy of note that the same MMM site runs in several countries:-

Nigeria
South Africa
India
Colombia
Turkey


So from my postulation, the fold-up will happen in a month - The month of reckoning-- across all MMM sites on that month because anything short of that will send panic to other countries and they won't maximize.

The scenario i see playing out is that the handlers will have bank accounts or agents in all countries of operations and in the month of reckoning, as there is no pool of money, all the ''get help'' requests will be paused - Not paused perse, but no ''get help'' request will go through and will be pending as they won't publish it.

Now the ''Provide help'' will be allowed to work, but the account shown will be that of the handlers of the site (or their agents) and people will keep providing help, but it goes to the scam account. Now this will go on for a month as you have to wait for a month to use your Mavro. The first people that will notice the scam will be the ''Get help'' People as they will keep waiting, but no help will come. Then ''Provide help'' people will come to know after a while and they MMM people will release a statement saying the ''business model experiment failed and they are shutting down''

Be wise Nigerians....

Alternative views and constructive arguments are welcome







I think say u get points

Clueless


Something that has been programmed with no central account

How will the agents emerge?
I wonder why this made front page

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Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by lastmessenger: 7:58am On Sep 02, 2016
Am providing help today

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Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by KingsleyTMTTM(m): 7:59am On Sep 02, 2016
some people just dont want things to get better and they are getting scammed by the ones they trust the most, YOUR GOVERMENT... many people are just saying scam when their money is not there, people that are in it are not getting scammed, so why bother. this government only favours the rich, they get richer..
but banks that charge N65 per withdrawal and N5 for sms notification for your N30 interest is not scam abi? stop trying to destroy good deeds, this same thing was said about bitcoin years ago, now look at it. despite the hacks and negative news and a lot of financial institution fighting against it bitcoin is here to stay. give mmm a chance

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Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by balowo(m): 7:59am On Sep 02, 2016
Why are u people is just like this? MMM is real and they are not collecting money from anybody but we pay to each others in the community. Pause mode may happen when there no new member. have u ever ask yourself how insurance company gets money to reinstate your damaged property. MMM is using the same method of insurance companies use, moreover life is a risk stop discouraging people from getting out of this current economic brake down

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Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by Kenturkey048(m): 8:00am On Sep 02, 2016
From other participating member..u buy a mavro with the amountof money u ar providing help with,,then sell it after it myt av appreciated to a substancial level back to another participating member..lyk someone rytly said mmm would only crash if we kip funding discouraging articles like this
jtjohn:
I think what this writer is trying to say there should be some iota of truth in it, but yesterday I got tempted after a friend of mine got his own 30 percent and registration bonus I was amazed.......The Question here is, how do they Get there money.
Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by dannywhyte(m): 8:00am On Sep 02, 2016
tempest01:
I saw the current MMM advertised by a friend sometime back and I quickly waved it off as a scam as with the HYIP and other ponzi schemes.

https://www.nairaland.com/3321916/sec-warns-nigerians-dangers-mmm

Given this topic that was on the front page today, I saw some comments by people and it was noted that ''There is no pool of money with the current MMM and therefore they can't run away''.

Given the nature of their business, with no investments and the fact that they have put in resources in place to allow for this trade to happen, it is pertinent that one day or another, they will close down, and they won't go through that stress without duping people of their money. Seeing the topic today, I had to register and checkout how the model works , and also brainstorm on the eventual way the MMM operators will dupe those that are in the system.

I am giving a scenario here and though it may not play out the same way, there should be no denying the fact that one day - which i wll term as ''the day of reckoning''. the MMM site will shut operations and will try to make as much as possible from your funds before that.



Now here is the scenario. As there is no pool as someone rightly said, I registered and saw the mode of operation. It is worthy of note that the same MMM site runs in several countries:-

Nigeria
South Africa
India
Colombia
Turkey


So from my postulation, the fold-up will happen in a month - The month of reckoning-- across all MMM sites on that month because anything short of that will send panic to other countries and they won't maximize.

The scenario i see playing out is that the handlers will have bank accounts or agents in all countries of operations and in the month of reckoning, as there is no pool of money, all the ''get help'' requests will be paused - Not paused perse, but no ''get help'' request will go through and will be pending as they won't publish it.

Now the ''Provide help'' will be allowed to work, but the account shown will be that of the handlers of the site (or their agents) and people will keep providing help, but it goes to the scam account. Now this will go on for a month as you have to wait for a month to use your Mavro. The first people that will notice the scam will be the ''Get help'' People as they will keep waiting, but no help will come. Then ''Provide help'' people will come to know after a while and they MMM people will release a statement saying the ''business model experiment failed and they are shutting down''

Be wise Nigerians....

Alternative views and constructive arguments are welcome




after registering,instead of looking for referrals to increase your earnings, you are talking what I don't know.
If anybody is doubting the authenticity of MMM around you, kindly show the person the above picture.

That's MMM presentation going on in KEYSTONE BANK NIGERIA.

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Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by ziego(m): 8:01am On Sep 02, 2016
eph12:

And how do you know if it's the phone number of an agent?


Ignorance makes people think negative at all time

If u understand the ideology of banks

U will appreciate MMM

Ask me more

Whatsapp 08039521412

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Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by ziego(m): 8:03am On Sep 02, 2016
olatop:
I'm perplex cuz I'm @bt to reg....


Hit me up 08039521412

It's only those that knows nothing about that criticize it
Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by AVISENNA: 8:04am On Sep 02, 2016
I would like to ask MMM participants, where is the interest on your initial principal comming from? what is being traded thast can yield you 30% interest after 1month ?.The one that gives help where is the excess liquidity coming from to generate profit?A lot of people spend so much time on the internet but do not do any form of proper investigation
Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by nonjebose(m): 8:05am On Sep 02, 2016
I hope all the people on this forum who are saying or advocating play safe are actually doing so. Can you put in 100k get 130k, keep 100k and put in back only 30k? The scheme has a way of actually making people rather ambitious. Others are putting in between 300k - 500k, why put back only 30k? Na once person dey die na. When the stuff crashes unexpectedly when you were about to get your "pay out", then the thought of what could have been would consume some people.

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Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by tempest01(m): 8:06am On Sep 02, 2016
Chyjoval:
MMM has over 10 safety nets which will never make it crash. And you Never notice But I will mention 10 out of them.

*1, Pause mode*

*2, 14 days defrost*

*3, Extension of the getting help hours*

*4, Seeking help from neighboring country*

*5, No central account attached*

*7, Peer to peer system*

*8, Guider's efforts*

*9 PH match hours extension*

*10, Website upgrades and security*

*1, Pause mode*

This process is applied when the numbers of the people getting help is greater than the people help. The system will pause the GH transactions and allow more PH to come into the system for the duration of 2 and half months, then the system will now restart.

PH means provide help and the GH means get help

*2, 14 days defrost*

The participants will not be able to withdraw their money until after 14 days when the payments have been confirmed. During this process, more PH would have come into the system therefore there would be pool of cash to pay the old participants.

*3, Extension of GH hours*

this occur when there is a public holidays when the banks are not working therefore, there won't be transaction and it may cause the problem to the system. The system will now extend the hours of the people who are getting help at that period to allow more People providing help into the system.

*4, Help seeking from neighboring country*

When there are more GH than PH in a country, MMM will look into the other countries which are doing well and match them together, pending the time that the affected country will be OK.

*6, No central account attached*

MMM does not have a certain account that we are sending to. MMM doesn't collect your money.

*7, Peer to peer system*

Participants pay directly to the bank account of the other participants seeking help

*8, Guider's efforts*

Guiders are the heartbeat of MMM, guiders make sure each and everyone in MMM understand the Ideology of MMM and how it works

*9, PH match hours extension*

When the system finds out that there are more GH than PH, the system will extend the hour of old PH so that to hold down their order matches duration and during this period, the system will allow more new PH to come into the system to get it balanced.

*10, Website upgrades and security*

MMM spends million of dollars in taking care of their website to cub online fraud in MMM, such as scam and other Threats.


If you guys really want the MMM to work, I believe there are lots of developers in nigeria, and reputable people can come together and replicate the model. The current site and handlers comeout as a potential fraud. It is going to happen, sooner or later.

These safety nets you mentioned is what will be used to scam you. you'll think it is the safety net working, not knowing that your money is gone.

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Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by slavemerchant: 8:06am On Sep 02, 2016
olatop:
I'm perplex cuz I'm @bt to reg....

Dont be perplexed and go register, don't mind this one that is jobless, i just received money as he was busy typing this junk, long live mmm

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Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by MummyE(f): 8:07am On Sep 02, 2016
olatop:
I'm perplex cuz I'm @bt to reg....
if u shud try etisalat easybiz 100% genuine and better than Mmm.if ur interested. Inbox me.am self employed with etisalat eazybiz

Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by tempest01(m): 8:09am On Sep 02, 2016
ziego:




I think say u get points

Clueless


Something that has been programmed with no central account

How will the agents emerge?
I wonder why this made front page

Read again with understanding.
Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by Dexema(m): 8:10am On Sep 02, 2016
frinx:
It's like gambling. Two rules applies;

1. Quit while you're ahead
2. Never enter with what you can't afford to lose.

@Op nice.
This is the koko

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Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by mickypi: 8:10am On Sep 02, 2016
If it doesn't fold up....then Go fold it up
MMM is here to stay
No one is shutn down the site
MMM has changed life
If u follow the rules and regulations properly....u can Neva loose ur money
Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by Samlapa: 8:11am On Sep 02, 2016
interesting...
Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by Nobody: 8:11am On Sep 02, 2016
ziego:




I think say u get points

Clueless


Something that has been programmed with no central account

How will the agents emerge?
I wonder why this made front page
it has no central account but the individuals have got account.... I mean the owners. Have you ever heard of The word "CON MEN". How do the owners make money? I mean the aim of every business is to maximise profits. This is not a case of borrowing where there is an interest on what is borrowed.
Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by tempest01(m): 8:14am On Sep 02, 2016
dannywhyte:

after registering,instead of looking for referrals to increase your earnings, you are talking what I don't know.
If anybody is doubting the authenticity of MMM around you, kindly show the person the above picture.

That's MMM presentation going on in KEYSTONE BANK NIGERIA.

Those are agents trying to get more referrals....they are the ones that will most likely not loose when the chips go down. try and not be among those that send help when it does.
Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by hustler86(m): 8:14am On Sep 02, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
Foreharmed

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Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by balowo(m): 8:15am On Sep 02, 2016
If want to know more about MMM Nigeria add me on my whatsapp 08185202751
Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by eph12(m): 8:15am On Sep 02, 2016
ziego:



Ignorance makes people think negative at all time

If u understand the ideology of banks

U will appreciate MMM

Ask me more

Whatsapp 08039521412
A business is not registered, nobody knows its office and you talking about ignorance? Let them register their business and have known offices and we won't ask questions again. I am not interested in free money. Tell me I have to work for it and I did be more interested but no?

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Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by Smileconcept: 8:20am On Sep 02, 2016
ngoben:
Hmmmmmm....everyfin na risk,breathing na risk,putting ur money in d bank to save na risk(d bank fit fold up anytym wif ur moni),importation na risk,,,ur gooods fit sink...soo leave mmm alone...if it closes...d pple in d connunity will no dat dey tried taking a risk n it failed...of course dey will rise again...dan nt taking d risk @all...tks
Ngoben...ten bottles for you! Even travelling out na big risk. Following Libya nko and crossing the sea with ur life in ur hand.
What's worth taking risk for is worth it..

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Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by feldido(m): 8:20am On Sep 02, 2016
majekdom2:
it has no central account but the individuals have got account.... I mean the owners. Have you ever heard of The word "CON MEN". How do the owners make money? I mean the aim of every business is to maximise profits. This is not a case of borrowing where there is an interest on what is borrowed.


Guy, you seem to look like the con man himself, why sowing bad seeds on people's minds cos u are 1?
Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by ziego(m): 8:21am On Sep 02, 2016
Snow5:
My brother... I Don talk.. Blow trumpet... Use mega phone talk... Them say I be lai Muhammed.... SMH SERIOUSLY..

God!!! How would u not work... And u think u will earn such huge amount without any consequences at the tail end?


Hooo my God!!


God abeg open their eyes ooo


I see slavery in ur statement

Must u work out ur life before u earn?

That's why employers over use them

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Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by ziego(m): 8:21am On Sep 02, 2016
Snow5:
My brother... I Don talk.. Blow trumpet... Use mega phone talk... Them say I be lai Muhammed.... SMH SERIOUSLY..

God!!! How would u not work... And u think u will earn such huge amount without any consequences at the tail end?


Hooo my God!!


God abeg open their eyes ooo


I see slavery in ur statement

Must u work out ur life before I earn?

That's why employers over use them
Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by Rafayll(m): 8:22am On Sep 02, 2016
What most of you don't know it that MMM is the world oldest scam it's a re-branded Ponzi scheme.. .u all might be attracted by the interest but know this your money are been use for arms smuggle and most illegal trade.. Watch the season movie Night guard
Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by superbouck(m): 8:23am On Sep 02, 2016
Now that MMM is paying nobody remember APC but when MMM fails many people will remember APC. Lie Mohamed una welldone ooooo
Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by globatop: 8:23am On Sep 02, 2016
MMM, MLM (multi level marketing) forex trading are ways investors can loose hard earned money, police said any biz that attract too much profit is scam, the system has been on for ages using different names and modus operandi, but there will way a mugus. My one cent.

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