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Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by Nobody: 5:38pm On Sep 03, 2016
EyeHateGod:

Because Ur Bible said so?
This is one of the foolish things Christians do, when you ask for proof they point to the Bible. Its just a book, just because its really old doesn't make it real. The harry potter series is one of the most popular books in the world, yet that doesn't make his adventures real, their isn't any Hogwarts school of witchcraft and wizardry, there's no such thing as magic anymore than there is proof that a Jewish man 2000 Years ago went about performing miracles (non of which can be proved today), or that a flood wiped out everything on earth except the few people and animals on the ark.

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Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by EyeHateGod: 5:45pm On Sep 03, 2016
Lennycool:

This is one of the foolish things Christians do, when you ask for proof they point to the Bible. Its just a book, just because its really old doesn't make it real. The harry potter series is one of the most popular books in the world, yet that doesn't make his adventures real, their isn't any Hogwarts school of witchcraft and wizardry, there's no such thing as magic anymore than there is proof that a Jewish man 2000 Years ago went about performing miracles (non of which can be proved today), or that a flood wiped out everything on earth except the few people and animals on the ark.
Its very insulting Because her Bible said so she immediately believes it. N besides does she know that those 3000 pig where drowned in the river by their "loving Jesus" who was rescuing sheep on Sabbath?

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Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by Nobody: 6:03pm On Sep 03, 2016
Lennycool:
I'm going to reiterate this since most of the theist on this site keep skipping it.
God sees nothing wrong with incest but condemns homosexuality, why do Christians and most of society today see this as wrong even though God never condemned it.
Reason: homosexuality was socially acceptable in some cultures thousands of years ago and so the real authors of the bible(who were just ancient uncivilized men) so nothing wrong with it. Same reason the bible never condemned slavery and misogyny.

Incest was condemned somewhere in the book of Leviticus. And if you are indirectly pointing to the unknown origin of Cain's wife, then I have no profound answer. There is probably more to the Genesis story than was written.
Homosexuality in those days was due to barbarism and being uncultured and was an act intrinsic to egocentrism but Bible writers condemned such. Homosexuality today is due to a miswriting in genetic instruction which has profound action on the brain. I can only deduce that instructions fed to the hypothalamus or cerebellum of modern age homosexuals is corrupted and thus, the uncontrolled attraction to the same sex.

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Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by Nobody: 7:17pm On Sep 03, 2016
It's obvious you have a problem with God and his people and I'm not surprised. That I stopped being an atheist doesn't mean I stopped learning. Nothing stops you from learning about the truth yourself.
One more thing, It's way better on the Lord's side. He will deliver you from the forces that incite your spiteful responses.
EyeHateGod:

Look at the liar and hypocrite that said he was an Atheist B4 Quoting Bible But should I be surprised?
Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by EyeHateGod: 7:21pm On Sep 03, 2016
TheSixthSense:
It's obvious you have a problem with God and his people and I'm not surprised. That I stopped being an atheist doesn't mean I stopped learning. Nothing stops you from learning about the truth yourself.
One more thing, It's way better on the Lord's side. He will deliver you from the forces that incite your spiteful responses.
Common sense didn't tell U that if there was a "God" it's not all this nonesense Religion portray?

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Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by Nobody: 7:24pm On Sep 03, 2016
lordnicklaus:


Incest was condemned somewhere in the book of Leviticus. And if you are indirectly pointing to the unknown origin of Cain's wife, then I have no profound answer. There is probably more to the Genesis story than was written.
Homosexuality in those days was due to barbarism and being uncultured and was an act intrinsic to egocentrism but Bible writers condemned such. Homosexuality today is due to a miswriting in genetic instruction which has profound action on the brain. I can only deduce that instructions fed to the hypothalamus or cerebellum of modern age homosexuals is corrupted and thus, the uncontrolled attraction to the same sex.
This is fun, so many flaws which to pick apart first. I wasn't just referring to Cains wife, the bible says there where only two humans in the beginning hence the children must have reproduced with each other, and your explanation for the existence of homosexuality as a genetic disorder in the brain (though correct) contradicts with Gods perfection (just like every disabled person on earth), and is you want to talk about barbarism you look no further than Gods instruction to the Israelites, ranging from slavery to rape and genocide.
The bible was written by archaic men, this helped me break my religious bonds.
www.godisimaginary.com

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Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by Nobody: 7:33pm On Sep 03, 2016
Nobody said the food homosexuals serve is poisonous. Are you a Christian? If what I posted here is making anyone uncomfortable then there is need to do some soul searching. The bible says the righteous is as bold as a lion. I only stated scriptures and scriptures point to God Himself.
alolatee:


just to butress your point, God hates the sin and including homosexuality but loves the sinner...infact in the earthly ministry of Christ, Jesus was called the friend of sinners by the Pharisees because he ate with them and went into their homes.But Christ hates sin and preaches against it.He however will not point sin at people but points God to them.
Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by Nobody: 7:37pm On Sep 03, 2016
Lennycool:

This is fun, so many flaws which to pick apart first. I wasn't just referring to Cains wife, the bible says there where only two humans in the beginning hence the children must have reproduced with each other, and your explanation for the existence of homosexuality as a genetic disorder in the brain (though correct) contradicts with Gods perfection (just like every disabled person on earth), and is you want to talk about barbarism you look no further than Gods instruction to the Israelites, ranging from slavery to rape and genocide.
The bible was written by archaic men, this helped me break my religious bonds.
www.godisimaginary.com

In reference to your disapprovement of God's perfection due to the malformity in some humans, I recall that in an earlier reply, I told you that God only created Adam and Eve but gave them the ability to multiply and that over the years genetic mutation crept in due to exposure to certain conditions or carrying out of certain acts which have proven detrimental and hazardous to the planet's bio-system. Example, eating too much processed food has an effect on sperm quality. Mutation begins with the parent but is recessive then and only becomes dorminant in the offspring. Most sperms produced are malformed due to certain abiotic factors like Uranium used in the production of most belts or exposure to nuclear reaction or mercury poisoning. Sperms produced by men exposed to these conditions carry wrong information and at the end, the offspring ends up malformed either physically, mentally or sexually.
Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by KingEbukasBlog(m): 7:42pm On Sep 03, 2016
akindlesfarm:


Christianity you gullible guys are following is just a mere white man's religion guy wake up from your sleep. Homosexuality is as OK as heterosexuality it has been in our culture and most culture all over the world before the white men brought there delusional religion to enslave us. Early Christians where even mostly gnostics.

Homosexual practices were prevalent in the land of Sodom and Gomorrah those days - its prevalence does mean its morally acceptable or right .

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Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by Nobody: 7:44pm On Sep 03, 2016
Your vile responses are inspired by forces you know nothing about. I'll encourage you, before you sleep, today, pray say: 'Jesus please reveal Yourself to me and I will worship You for the rest of my life' I will also pray for you as well. So that you will start your own nairaland evangelism.
You know nothing about the One you blaspheme against but God is merciful He is not slow but He wills everyone (including you) to come to repentance.
If you don't do the above, please ask yourself why you wake up everyday in the religion section attacking christians. Why don't you ignore us in our 'delusion'.
EyeHateGod:

Common sense didn't tell U that if there was a "God" it's not all this nonesense Religion portray?
Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by EyeHateGod: 8:04pm On Sep 03, 2016
TheSixthSense:
Your vile responses are inspired by forces you know nothing about. I'll encourage you, before you sleep, today, pray say: 'Jesus please reveal Yourself to me and I will worship You for the rest of my life' I will also pray for you as well. So that you will start your own nairaland evangelism.
You know nothing about the One you blaspheme against but God is merciful He is not slow but He wills everyone (including you) to come to repentance.
If you don't do the above, please ask yourself why you wake up everyday in the religion section attacking christians. Why don't you ignore us in our 'delusion'.
A God that can't Reveal himself to the whole world is as useless as Santa or Superman! I should pray 4geting that according to Ur religion this is God devine plan 4 my life? So I should pray 4 him to change it? Doesn't that sound arrogant to U?

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Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by EyeHateGod: 8:05pm On Sep 03, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Homosexual practices were prevalent in the land of Sodom and Gomorrah those days - its prevalence does mean its morally acceptable or right .
Can U prove that shit happened in sodom? Oh Ur proof is from Ur bible grin

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Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by Nobody: 8:11pm On Sep 03, 2016
EyeHateGod:

A God that can't Reveal himself to the whole world is as useless as Santa or Superman! I should pray 4geting that according to Ur religion this is God devine plan 4 my life? So I should pray 4 him to change it? Doesn't that sound arrogant to U?
You didn't even try, now you speak for the whole world. try what I asked then you can tell the whole world yourself since you speak for them.
And you've been the arrogant one here ever since you started quoting me.
Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by EyeHateGod: 8:21pm On Sep 03, 2016
TheSixthSense:

You didn't even try, now you speak for the whole world. try what I asked then you can tell the whole world yourself since you speak for them.
And you've been the arrogant one here ever since you started quoting me.
grin U find that to hard to grab? A Hindu that pray to vinshu or Krishna(wondering why it sounds like Christ with a k) to show himself to them will only experience krish U wonder why they call it personal experience? Look up the world personal in Ur dictionary

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Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by alolatee(m): 8:46pm On Sep 03, 2016
TheSixthSense:
Nobody said the food homosexuals serve is poisonous. Are you a Christian? If what I posted here is making anyone uncomfortable then there is need to do some soul searching. The bible says the righteous is as bold as a lion. I only stated scriptures and scriptures point to God Himself.

Bro, am on same page with you.Av followed ur write up 'From Atheism to Christ' and am impressed that God has snatched you in His mercy from falsehood to truth.Am only adding to your point to asssuage the atheistic topic on why Christians hate homosexuals or so i think.Am not opposing you in anyway.Thanks.Concerning food, i only illustrated that Jesus loves sinners and hates their sin by citing that example in scriptures and also saying what Jesus does:NOT POINTING PEOPLE'S SIN AT THEM BUT POINTING CHRIST/GOD TO SINNERS.Thanks.

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Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by promise10: 9:46pm On Sep 03, 2016
Lennycool:

How because of their action and thinking? They're were like that from childhood. they didn't chose to be homosexuals.
You are just very funny.

So, they started having same-sex sexual affection from their childhood? You dey try, clap for yourself.
Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by Nobody: 10:23pm On Sep 03, 2016
Oh, glory to God for his grace. God bless you for reading. I most likely misunderstood you but I still don't get if you're still implying that I am pointing out sins. If I did, glory to God for that, and I will continue because it's scriptural. Jesus and the apostles preached 'Repent for the kingdom of God is near' Matt 4:17. Repent from what? SIN You see there is a need for repentance, not only from homosexuality, that is the essence of Christ's death and resurrection. The gospel is the power of salvation and in it the righteousness of God is revealed and SIN is exposed. How would people know what SIN is if you do not tell them? Besides, I never called names I only pointed to scripture and scripture point to God Himself. You cite the pharisees even, the same ones that called Jesus belzebub.

Anyway, I hope you don't misinterpret this comment, we are certainly still in agreement. This is only a defence for the emphasis you repeated in your reply. From your previous comment, you agreed and buttressed, then you went ahead with 'but...' from which I inferred that you were critical of my method as not the way of Jesus.
alolatee:


Bro, am on same page with you.Av followed ur write up 'From Atheism to Christ' and am impressed that God has snatched you in His mercy from falsehood to truth.Am only adding to your point to assuage the atheistic topic on why Christians hate homosexuals or so i think.Am not opposing you in anyway.Thanks.Concerning food, i only illustrated that Jesus loves sinners and hates their sin by citing that example in scriptures and also saying what Jesus does:NOT POINTING PEOPLE'S SIN AT THEM BUT POINTING CHRIST/GOD TO SINNERS.Thanks.
Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by blessedvisky(m): 11:59pm On Sep 03, 2016
Lennycool:

one of the widespread misconception about homosexuality is that it is a choice, but research has shown that it isn't, gay people are indeed born that way and the so called ex gays were wither never really gay(rather bisexuals) or they're hiding they're lying. If you believe God created man, then that must mean he created gay people .

This is a product of shallow Bible study. God only created Adam and Eve, then much later, Jesus's earthly body. Every other person was conceived and born. If your parent never met each other, you will NEVER exist.

When a child is born, he or she gets exposed to the environment and starts making inferences and drawing conclusions from a very early age. That's why an IGBO child born in a YORUBA speaking community will understand YORUBA simply by interacting with others.

As concerning gay people, I will say it's a choice, although it might not be a voluntary one. A boy whose first contact with sex is a gay porn clip will see it as 'normal'.
If gays are born that way, why do they reinforce the condition?? You see most of them acting like ladies. Where they born that way?? where they born with natural catwalking?
Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by Sheggy13(m): 4:02am On Sep 04, 2016
Lennycool:

This is fun, so many flaws which to pick apart first. I wasn't just referring to Cains wife, the bible says there where only two humans in the beginning hence the children must have reproduced with each other, and your explanation for the existence of homosexuality as a genetic disorder in the brain (though correct) contradicts with Gods perfection (just like every disabled person on earth), and is you want to talk about barbarism you look no further than Gods instruction to the Israelites, ranging from slavery to rape and genocide.
The bible was written by archaic men, this helped me break my religious bonds.
www.godisimaginary.com
The point is no matter how convincing an answer is given to you, you'd never accept it because you've programmed your mind to believe homosexuality should be encouraged by Christians. First of, you don't believe in the Bible, so any references to the Bible which is a guide for Christians will not appeal to you. You keep giving excuses of animals engaging in homosexuality to be a reason why humans should find it natural, comparing us with them. They are animals for a reason, lower creatures. Does the fact that some animals do things we (humans generally) consider abnormal- eat their droppings and even mate with their mothers make it natural and acceptable for humans? This homosexuality you're talking about is responsible for the introduction of arguably the most destructive disease mankind has ever had to contend with - HIV/AIDS. Infact when the disease was first discovered, it was called Gay-Related Immune Deficiency (GRID) Syndrome. What does that tell you? Humans are naturally inquisitive creatures who like to explore things. This is how homosexuality started. No human was born gay. Ask any gay you come across especially here in Nigeria, they'll you they were indoctrinated into it at younger ages by people quite close to them. Same way, people started exploring bestiality and even being made legal in some countries. Perhaps by the next generation, it'd become so widespread as homosexuality is now and people will start claiming it's also natural and some were born to love to mate with animals.

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Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by Pebcak: 5:16am On Sep 04, 2016

Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by Nobody: 6:46am On Sep 04, 2016
Sheggy13:

The point is no matter how convincing an answer is given to you, you'd never accept it because you've programmed your mind to believe homosexuality should be encouraged by Christians. First of, you don't believe in the Bible, so any references to the Bible which is a guide for Christians will not appeal to you. You keep giving excuses of animals engaging in homosexuality to be a reason why humans should find it natural, comparing us with them. They are animals for a reason, lower creatures. Does the fact that some animals do things we (humans generally) consider abnormal- eat their droppings and even mate with their mothers make it natural and acceptable for humans? This homosexuality you're talking about is responsible for the introduction of arguably the most destructive disease mankind has ever had to contend with - HIV/AIDS. Infact when the disease was first discovered, it was called Gay-Related Immune Deficiency (GRID) Syndrome. What does that tell you? Humans are naturally inquisitive creatures who like to explore things. This is how homosexuality started. No human was born gay. Ask any gay you come across especially here in Nigeria, they'll you they were indoctrinated into it at younger ages by people quite close to them. Same way, people started exploring bestiality and even being made legal in some countries. Perhaps by the next generation, it'd become so widespread as homosexuality is now and people will start claiming it's also natural and some were born to love to mate with animals.
You're displaying your ignorance once again, homosexuality isn't a choice and you're not indoctrinated into it, if its was a choice no one would want to be gay especially here in Nigeria were there is so much hate. Countless research has proven its inborn, just to a little research before you start commenting. And as I've said numerous times before science has proven that two people (no matter their genetic structure or whatever you want to put forth) are not responsible for all the population and diversity of humans on earth.
Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by raphieMontella: 9:22am On Sep 04, 2016
malvisguy212:
“I was not born this way,” she wrote. “The life I have now is not something I ended up with because I had no other options. Make no mistake – it's a life I chose.” Lindsay Miller.
If people are born gay, why are they Ex-gay ?
some persons are born gay...other's are habits picked up..
Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by raphieMontella: 9:22am On Sep 04, 2016
hopefulLandlord:

Do you know many animals have been seen engaging in homosexual acts?
I guess from your post that those animals ancestry caused it too
lol..you de mind them?
Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by raphieMontella: 9:31am On Sep 04, 2016
Pidggin:


Demons can also live in animals
pls just stop...

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Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by raphieMontella: 10:00am On Sep 04, 2016
TheSixthSense:
Your vile responses are inspired by forces you know nothing about. I'll encourage you, before you sleep, today, pray say: 'Jesus please reveal Yourself to me and I will worship You for the rest of my life' I will also pray for you as well. So that you will start your own nairaland evangelism.
You know nothing about the One you blaspheme against but God is merciful He is not slow but He wills everyone (including you) to come to repentance.
If you don't do the above, please ask yourself why you wake up everyday in the religion section attacking christians. Why don't you ignore us in our 'delusion'.
he wills everyone to repent?
The bible says he purposely made some for hell...so?? What u saying bruh?
Read the bible...
Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by raphieMontella: 10:04am On Sep 04, 2016
promise10:

You are just very funny.

So, they started having same-sex sexual affection from their childhood? You dey try, clap for yourself.

Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by raphieMontella: 10:07am On Sep 04, 2016
Lennycool:

You're displaying your ignorance once again, homosexuality isn't a choice and you're not indoctrinated into it, if its was a choice no one would want to be gay especially here in Nigeria were there is so much hate. Countless research has proven its inborn, just to a little research before you start commenting. And as I've said numerous times before science has proven that two people (no matter their genetic structure or whatever you want to put forth) are not responsible for all the population and diversity of humans on earth.
i disagree with the bolded...
Just because you have no control over reflex actions doesnt mean all actions carried out by the body are reflexes...thats it with gayism
Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by alolatee(m): 12:35pm On Sep 04, 2016
TheSixthSense:
Oh, glory to God for his grace. God bless you for reading. I most likely misunderstood you but I still don't get if you're still implying that I am pointing out sins. If I did, glory to God for that, and I will continue because it's scriptural. Jesus and the apostles preached 'Repent for the kingdom of God is near' Matt 4:17. Repent from what? SIN You see there is a need for repentance, not only from homosexuality, that is the essence of Christ's death and resurrection. The gospel is the power of salvation and in it the righteousness of God is revealed and SIN is exposed. How would people know what SIN is if you do not tell them? Besides, I never called names I only pointed to scripture and scripture point to God Himself. You cite the pharisees even, the same ones that called Jesus belzebub.

Anyway, I hope you don't misinterpret this comment, we are certainly still in agreement. This is only a defence for the emphasis you repeated in your reply. From your previous comment, you agreed and buttressed, then you went ahead with 'but...' from which I inferred that you were critical of my method as not the way of Jesus.

Ok bro.What i mean by saying not pointing people to sin is in trying to let people be sin-conscious not God-conscious.Trying like the pharisees do who accuse Jesus of rather not pointing the sins of those publicans, harlots and sinful men he ate with to which he was trying to show my presence is enough to dissuade sinners from sin.He was pointing them to Jesus(himself)-the saviour.Thanks.I didn't in any way try to correct u.You are correct.I have only tried to buttress your point.True preaching of Christ must always include repentance from sin.In Acts16vs31 the man asked what must i do to be saved to which Paul answered believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and thou and thy house will be saved.In Acts2vs39, the people asked what must we do to be saved to which Peter said repent(from sin) and be baptised everyone of you from your sin and you will be saved.Repentance must be from sin which is a message that involves we tell people about the dangers of sin and its end(hell) and believe unto salvation-Romans10vs9-10.Thanks

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Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by alolatee(m): 12:53pm On Sep 04, 2016
Lennycool:

God sees nothing wrong with incest but condemns homosexuality, why do Christians and most of society today see this as wrong even though God never condemned it.
Reason: homosexuality was socially acceptable in some cultures thousands of years ago and so the real authors of the bible(who were just ancient uncivilized men) so nothing wrong with it. Same reason the bible never condemned slavery and misogyny.

God did condemn Incest.He only allowed it cos of when people were multiplying on the surface of the earth before the law was given.Read Deuteronomy27vs20-22.He cursed people who sleep with their father's wives-their mother, beasts(animal), and their biological sisters.For limited time i can't show you other scriptures which condemns incest.Also,Romans1vs30 talks of people inventing other sins and at the latter end of that chapter he not only condemn those who do such but those who persuade others or approve of those practices.There are other sins like gambling, suicide, smoking which the bible describes in that Romans which the bible refers to those invented sins which were not captured when the bible was written and 'such like' which was called 'other sins' likewise in Galatians5vs21 to which God through the Holy Spirit have made his servants to regard as sins.Thanks.What i earlier wrote was not submitted when i responded by Nairaland for reasons i don't know.
Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by raphieMontella: 1:53pm On Sep 04, 2016
alolatee:


God did condemn Incest.He only allowed it cos of when people were multiplying on the surface of the earth before the law was given.Read Deuteronomy27vs20-22.He cursed people who sleep with their father's wives-their mother, beasts(animal), and their biological sisters.For limited time i can't show you other scriptures which condemns incest.Also,Romans1vs30 talks of people inventing other sins and at the latter end of that chapter he not only condemn those who do such but those who persuade others or approve of those practices.There are other sins like gambling, suicide, smoking which the bible describes in that Romans which the bible refers to those invented sins which were not captured when the bible was written and 'such like' which was called 'other sins' likewise in Galatians5vs21 to which God through the Holy Spirit have made his servants to regard as sins.Thanks.What i earlier wrote was not submitted when i responded by Nairaland for reasons i don't know.
i hope u know he blessed abraham's wedlock with his half sister
Shey he is all powerful?
Since incest is wrong in his eyes...what stopped him from creating another pair(s) of humans??

Yeah right!
I forgot he killed onah for refusing to impregnate his bro's wife
Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by Nobody: 2:00pm On Sep 04, 2016
raphieMontella:

i hope u know he blessed abraham's wedlock with his half sister
Shey he is all powerful?
Since incest is wrong in his eyes...what stopped him from creating another pair(s) of humans??

Yeah right!
I forgot he killed onah for refusing to impregnate his bro's wife
Abeg tell am oh
Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by alolatee(m): 7:15pm On Sep 04, 2016
raphieMontella:

i hope u know he blessed abraham's wedlock with his half sister
Shey he is all powerful?
Since incest is wrong in his eyes...what stopped him from creating another pair(s) of humans??

Yeah right!
I forgot he killed onah for refusing to impregnate his bro's wife

Also, there is law of redemption of late brother who had no child where his wife will be redeemed so as to give birth to a child in the name of the dead brother.That is to how far God would grant to Isreal(i must emphasis to Isreal during the law) that is where Er and Onan fell into.I believe this is a permissive will of God seeing the hardness of their heart he allowed it.That is the same reason God told Moses to allow husbands to divorce or misogny if to use your own word.God even now allows us without imposing His sovereign will on us make us choose different religions we want.For this same reason one can choose to be an atheist despite the fact that they can see creation and can read the bible in Psalm14vs1 saying only a fool can say in his heart there is no God.I timothy2vs5 says there is one God and one mediator between men and God, the man, Christ Jesus.So he allows us choose what we want despite the fact that it is not His perfect will for the hardness of our heart.God respects our privacy alot and will not intrude if we call Him quit.

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