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Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads / Part 3: Pastor To Atheist: Ask Me Any Question I Will Answer If Safe For Me / PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again (2) (3) (4)
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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Nobody: 2:41am On Nov 22, 2016 |
Sugarhugs:YES HE IS.. AND THEY RULE THIS THREAD WITH HIS FRIENDS You better don't hang around here too much else you will be converted to their unclear scattering of lives puzzle You are WARNED!! |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by chrmn1: 2:49am On Nov 22, 2016 |
HardMirror:Few points from me: 1. OP has not told us the real motivation for denouncing his faith. Those unanswered questions he highlighted are excuses at best. Usually there are deeper issues. Examples are loss of a loved one or similar painful experiences and also the need to be 'free'. As is evident from OPs post, Hard mirror is now a lover of the romance section on Nairaland. This is something he wouldn't be able to freely do were he still a Christian. All he needed to do was question some Bible beliefs, get some books that support the idea of atheism and do his best to douse every voice of guilt in his conscience. I do not doubt that once upon a time he was 'on fire for God' but let's be logical, he renounced his faith so easily after failing to heal a blind man and some beliefs not adding up. Common! There was a part of the story OP has hidden from us. Heard a story about Rev. King how that he was genuinely a God follower in his school days but something happened along the way. Its very possible and is no biggie. No matter how great one has done stuff in God's name, when greed comes in or the need to gratify oneself with money, power, WOMEN, etc, then all the person needs to do is find justifications to thrash those ideas he/she once held dear. It's not like atheism has made him more helpful to humanity. In fact if he had gone ahead ministering to people, I'm sure he would have helped humanity better, even though he says it was all human (undivine, if you like). So the undivine healing he had brought to at least a few was not a bad thing if you ask me. In order words, if you heal people through human means as you claim, the fact is they are being healed even if you mistook the source. It's more helpful to humanity. Let me borrow a NLand term: who your atheism epp?? Mark the word -- Selfishness. This is the very root of atheism 2. I'm glad the way Image123 and KingEbuka put the OP where he belongs. They owned the thread. OP has been practically avoiding Image123. @Image and Ebuka, I'm proud of you both but your Dad is even more proud. You placed this thread in its rightful place 3. I'm anything but perfect but when I witnessed Archbishop Idahosa raise a cripple in one of his crusades back in the day, I was in awe. I thought I was watching TV. The memory still vivid in my head, even if I wanted to doubt, I just couldn't. There have been times in my life I secretly wish there was no God but it wouldn't add up. 4. Atheism gives the impression that they hold no belief system (in the manner of organized religion). Truth is they believe in something. Even though the explanation of how the universe came to be seems unscientific, they still hold on to it. If you say, okay maybe this was a point in the process not the beginning, they don't usually agree. Scientific explanations have not solved the question of abiogenesis but atheists still trust whatever it claims to be the explanation of how the universe started. This tells me that people first believe with their hearts and then rationalize with their heads and not the other way round or how do you explain believing the most scientific explanation that doesn't make scientific sense? 5. So my dear you're not the first spirokoko to abandon the faith, and I don't think you will be the last. Even Paul the apostle highlighted the possibility of same happening to him, and in Hebrews 6 (I'm sure you have not forgotten all your Bible passages, lol), the possibility of one who has seen times 1000 of whatever you have been privileged to see, was mentioned. STAY SAFE AND TAKE CARE BRO 6 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by SavoG(f): 3:05am On Nov 22, 2016 |
[b][/b]WHATEVER!!! |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Tonason: 5:49am On Nov 22, 2016 |
I am more interested to hear that your father's story than this fellow that Satan has decived. |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Eguaikide(m): 6:17am On Nov 22, 2016 |
The single problem with atheist is that they wanted to know everything but eventually got confused about everything! Christianity is so very simple- it teaches morals! All other things like speaking in tongues and preaching fasting praying ceaselessly are just a plus! If you want to be a Christian try live a life of high moral standards! Stop seeing any human as a demigod, believe in that God you're not seeing but hearing about, and just look at all the pastors and preachers as teachers, respect them but don't worship them. That's all. 2 Likes |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by kentycom(m): 6:35am On Nov 22, 2016 |
Helo Mr guy with no real name, I greet u, honestly speaking i took my time to read ur writings about the experienced u had before changing to atheist. Frankly, I respect ur decision, i have seen how u pray fervently, with the fasting and all of that.. Very nice. But let me tell u something, you said there is no witchcraft, no powers here on earth, hmmm, this is a very pronounce lies. Seriously i am not arguing with you, but how do you think this ritualist make their money. How do you think this boys that stood face to face with police to exchange bullet didnt die, but where forming odeshy. How do you think this fake pastors will tell u the exact problem u had, but no solution. My brother, from ur experiences, u were almost there. But anxiety and and your curiosity made u to conclude that God does not exist. Hmmm very interesting.. My brother, God the father dispensations has passed, God the Son dispensation has passed, we are still operating the dispensation of the Holy Spirit. So everything we do now is by faith. Listen am not quoting any scripture for you. Also i know you know this. Now listen attentively, I dont practice religion, i dont believe in what pastors says until i confirm them myself. See i dont fast, i dont even have that time, fast for what. See i help myself, i pay my tithe the way i feel like paying. See no body force me to do anything outside my my own will. Listen about miracles, let me tell you that you wanted to operate outside your gift. Ur gift was specify, Word of knowledge specifically, i bet u, u have seen how God used you, concerning your gift. Listen, the gift of working miracles and healing is very rare now, because of the pride and self exaltation involved, and how the person will feel, let me tell you, no matter how spirited you are, if you are not humble to the extent of seeing yourself as nothing, God can not give you the gift. Now take note, there is man that personally took it upon himself to make findings about this so called God, Jesus to proved, if it was true, and he discovered that it is a valid fact. make your findings, am not here to mention names. My brother, am not here to convince.you that there is God, but i want you to know that, change only occur, if something has to cause a change. Ha.. You may not understand what i meant. Dont worry, do your own findings. Listen, I am not using scriptures in this context. But i want you to understand something, miracles is the main reason why you left the chistian fold, good for you. But to me, that is not a reason, to me the reason is that you wanted God to use you to perform miracles when this was not your gift. How logical. My oga, u dont have the gift simple. Look for people that have this gift, and the two of you work together, well it not even easy to find such people, because some people have this gift, but they dont know, and those that dont have, claims to have. Hmmm very interesting. My brother, i respect your decision as an atheist, but from the look of things you were desperate. God dont work like that. Look at the story of Abraham, u will understand what i mean. Alright, i will only advise u here, if u want to be an atheist, fine and good, but that does not give you room to say Bleep God. Blah blah blah, if truly as you said He does not exist, why saying the Bleep to something that does not exist. Good Another, correction, why are u hiding your identity as an atheist, mehn. You should be proud of yourself.. If you r hiding, that means hypocrisy. Come out and be proud of it. Haba My brother, am not a pastor, am nothing at all, but i understand there is a supreme being there, i always tell people, that man is not interested in this world anymore, see people keep on punishing themselves all in the name of Christianity to enrich the Pastor. I pity their conditions. Why people behave the way the behave is because of ignorant. Salvation is personal. Like i said, THERE IS GOD, whether you believe or you dont believe, whether you cannot heal or you can heal, whether you are an atheist or pagan, whether you are a muslim or Hindu. Whether you a poor man or a rich man, whether you are a mad man or a sane man, whether you a man with a womb or man without womb, whether your sister died while you were praying, whether there is medicine for the disease or not, whether in the next few years robot will take over humans, guy. Whether our forefathers did not receive the gospel or not. I SAY IT AGAIN. THERE IS GOD. Note. I didnt use any bible quotations with you, but i believe you should be able to understand some certain fact. In this life, whatever you believes works for you. Have a wonder day. 8 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by tompat86(m): 6:37am On Nov 22, 2016 |
H2Ossss:One bottle of Orijin for U and one cup of Atlantic ocean 1 Like |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by kayo80(m): 6:43am On Nov 22, 2016 |
HardMirror: GBAM! This is the secret most Christians don't want to understand. |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Nobody: 6:44am On Nov 22, 2016 |
Gboyee4fun: How do you know he didn't receive his own "calling"? Every pastor of a church claims, on the street, in schools et al claim they recieve God's call. Why is his own different to you? |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by hopefulLandlord: 6:48am On Nov 22, 2016 |
Eguaikide: morals like taking another human as permanent property, passing that human to your children and children's children beating that human to death so long that human survives for more than two days before dying? I pity brainwashed people like you who can't see past indoctrination I've been there anyways so I understand you 2 Likes
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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Caseless: 6:50am On Nov 22, 2016 |
AleAirHub:let's talk about bitcoin. |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Kebabs(m): 6:51am On Nov 22, 2016 |
Even the bible says the anti-christ is a smooth talker... From recent events, i'm thinking the anti-christ isn't just one person but a group of sweet-talking demons. Never listen to them! On the last days, even the elects shall be decieved! 1 Like |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by felixomor: 6:52am On Nov 22, 2016 |
The atheism ministry is dying and on life support. Old fabricated articles now have to be recycled to strengthen the brethren. SMH..... |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by AleAirHub(m): 6:54am On Nov 22, 2016 |
Good morning sir. Do you have any for trade or Caseless: |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Caseless: 6:55am On Nov 22, 2016 |
otem4eartum:Christianity has done more damage with their edited bible than good. 1 Like |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Caseless: 6:56am On Nov 22, 2016 |
AleAirHub:we need to work something out. Let's connect |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Gboyee4fun(m): 6:57am On Nov 22, 2016 |
ollah1: did I said he didn't received calling? I said who ordained him ba and more so there are many like him in all schools that can pray as he did, just because of that people will start calling them names like pastor, prophet, Apostle, they too will now be thinking they are what people call them because they can shout on prayers without really understanding the enemy they are facing...by the way who are you? are you also an atheist Mr man? 2 Likes |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by hopefulLandlord: 6:57am On Nov 22, 2016 |
felixomor: Let the butthurt flow through you don't fight it 1 Like |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Caseless: 6:58am On Nov 22, 2016 |
johnydon22:I've never read anywhere Muhammad rode a flying horse and I'm a Muslim. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by AleAirHub(m): 7:01am On Nov 22, 2016 |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Caseless: 7:03am On Nov 22, 2016 |
Hard mirror, the story don finish? My take: if I was born a Christian( thank God I'm not), I'd have long gone into atheism. I won't deny the existence of God- he's too big to be put under such questions, but if something ain't right with religion, we should always point it out. Sometimes , I love atheistic stories even though I don't get swayed by it, but they're being realistic. God exists! |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by XtrmeBachelor(m): 7:03am On Nov 22, 2016 |
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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Caseless: 7:05am On Nov 22, 2016 |
AleAirHub:copied! You can modify to remove your number. |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by chrmn1: 7:06am On Nov 22, 2016 |
19 Since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. Romans 1:19-20 1 Like |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by profhezekiah: 7:07am On Nov 22, 2016 |
Until pple begin to get d fact strait,going to church does nt make U a christian,sleeping d garage can neva make U a car,dree is diff btw bench warmer,church goer and christian. 1 Like |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by felixomor: 7:14am On Nov 22, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord: Behold another evidence of the dying ministry. A jobless atheist who creates multiple nairaland accounts to delude himself that his church is expanding. Yeah right, tell me who is butthurt again! 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Vello(m): 7:14am On Nov 22, 2016 |
nelsonoba:Can see you're truly stressing yourself. What informs your confidence even you will make Heaven? Not with this your Christianity that is unlike my Christ. Your choice of words belies the faith you claim. The guy might not totally be right but he has got points you and your so called pastors need consider. Apostacy is all over but pastors are feeding fat on corruption, hatred, wickedness... Etc I can bet you, you're more atheist than the OP |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Mpanyi: 7:14am On Nov 22, 2016 |
HardMirror: Also this is a problem with 'smart alec' like you and your ilk. What makes you think he doesn't have the answer? 2 Likes |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by JustCalMeDBoss(m): 7:20am On Nov 22, 2016 |
HardMirror: While I would not call myself an atheist, I would say ur reason for becoming an atheist is because of discouragement. There might be something u were hoping God to deliver but u never got I have been der. It's natural when u give ur all and the other party does not. |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by hopefulLandlord: 7:27am On Nov 22, 2016 |
felixomor: sounds rich coming from you who does that thing you're accusing me of "Psychological Projection" is the name its okay to lie, so long you're doing it for Jesus Let the butthurt flow, let it flow |
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