Sarang:



At the bolded.. when there is both in a sentence..it is plural.

In other words,both are Gods

And this contradicts the scriptures.
What is hard to understand here? That the word is divine,a god,strong and mighty?

You like lie lie dolphinheart cannot help but lie
no where does scripture say God and the Word are gods
neither did I say God and the Word are god's
but you false jw say they are gods, you lie yet again

and you lie again saying that the Word is "a god" after I have shown from the Bible that Jesus is Alpha and Omega, the Almightry

you are antichrist denying the Son

1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jn 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

Sarang:


You are right. I haven't seen one.
Reason logically and scripturally like he is.

of course false jw sarang is truly blinded and cannot stop lying

2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Sarang:
Is Jesus the Almighty?

Jesus’ opposers accused him of making himself equal to God. (John 5:18; 10:30-33) However, Jesus never claimed to be on the same level as Almighty God. He said: “The Father is greater than I am.”— John 14:28

Jesus’ early followers did not view him as being equal to Almighty God. For example, the apostle Paul wrote that after Jesus was resurrected, God “exalted him [Jesus] to a superior position.”
Obviously, Paul did not believe that Jesus was Almighty God. Otherwise, how could God exalt Jesus to a superior position if he is the most superior ? —Philippians 2:9.

The title’s application to Jehovah God is made obvious at Revelation 19:6 by the use of the expression Hallelujah (Praise Jah, you people!). Likewise, the expression “the One who is and who was and who is coming” (Re 1:8; 4: clearly points to the God of eternity who not only “was” the Almighty in ancient times but continues to be so and “is coming” as such with an expression of his all-powerfulness
(Ps 90:2),

of course you false jw sarang deny Jesus is God, you are antichrist denying the Son.
and of course you lie lie sarang don't believe the bible and the verses I have given showing that Jesus is Alpha and Omega
the Almighty.
I will give them again in my next post so you will have no excuse when you are about to be thrown into the Lake of Fire.

I want you to know that all scriptures are written in the bible
{1 Corinthians 11:3}I want you to realise that the head of every man is Christ, and the the head of a woman is man, and the Head of Christ is God.

achorladey:

Dont scatter things. Choose the option that is correct.

Which proves their's only One "I Am" two holding the very same title

achorladey:

but according to you there cannot be two 'I ams'. I hope you know what you are doing?

The NKIV, NIVUK, NIV, NCV, GOD'S WORD CEB, NASB These are some of the bibles you produce, to fight for you.

dolphinheart:


WHICH TRANSLATION DID YOU GET THIS FROM!, TELL US THE NAME OF THE BIBLE YOU QUOTED!

That settles it-you would rather listen to the critic's those who are atheist, then listen to God Himself.
Not we, you are talking about the meaning of explanation of the scriptures.
You quoted scripture and I answered it with the Word Of God.
Call 911 and ask God directly instead of making yourself more confused about which bible holds the truth, or which critic holds their own written manuscripts, that you believe, more then the hole truth about Word Of God.

dolphinheart:

don't get confused brocab, we are not talking about the meaning or explanation of the scriptures. We are talking about the authenticity and existence of particular words and sentences in the scriptures.
people who do such works do not have to believe in the content.

hope you read my post, their explanations guide me in coming to a conclusion about a particular issue. If they give an explanation that is convincing enough, I believe them.


Get serious brocab, we are discussing the authenticity of a particular scripture, 2 different bibles giving conflicting statements, how do you know which one is true if not to study the source of the translation.


1. so if a christian who claims to have Gods spirit tells you the same answer that I've given you about that verse, will you agree?
2. I'll love go be part of the meek ones who will inherit the earth.

Sarang:


The first verse of Revelation shows that the revelation was given originally by God and through Jesus Christ, hence the one speaking (through an angelic representative) at times is God himself, and at other times it is Christ Jesus.

Thus Revelation 1:8 (RS) says: “‘I am the Alpha and the Omega,’ says the Lord God [“Jehovah God,” NW], who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” Although the preceding verse speaks of Christ Jesus, it is clear that in verse 8 the application of the title is to “the Almighty” God. In this regard Barnes’ Notes on the New Testament (1974) observes: “It cannot be absolutely certain that the writer meant to refer to the Lord Jesus specifically here . . . There is no real incongruity in supposing, also, that the writer here meant to refer to God as such.”

lie lie sarang


Rev_2:8 And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;

Jesus is the one "which was dead and is alive"
It is Jesus talking, saying: "these things saith the first and the last which was dead and is alive"
Jesus is "the first and the last"



Jesus-The first and the last is Alpha and Omega:

Rev_1:11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.


Again it is Jesus-the first and the last speaking:

Rev_1:17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:


Again it is Jesus-the first and the last, He is also "the beginning and the ending":

Rev_22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.



It certinally is Jesus "Alpha and Omega", "the first and the last", "the beginning and the ending", that John called "the Almighty":

Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.


you lie lie sarang deny the Son, and are antichrist

you lie lie sarang deny God's inspired written word and are apostate

you lie lie sarang have chosen the Lake of Fire.


1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jn 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

Rev_20:15  And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

dolphinheart:

Good that you once again state that Satan is the god of these world

lie lie dolphinheart you have again become unstable, go lay down

and again, I told you that satan is the god of this world
you appeared to think it was yahweh

dolphinheart:

Good that you once again state that Satan is the god of these world

dolphinheart:


good you agreed that Satan is a god, a "thoes".

dolphinheart:

I don't think I ever asked you to reply to all post , but it's good to help your brother out if he's taking the wrong part.
For a while you have been attacking my believes , but your brother has a wrong belief and you keep quiet!

does he agree with you that proverbs 8 :22- 30 is referring to Jesus?, if no is the answer, have you tried to tell him the truth? if you have tried to tell him the truth, has he accepted?

lie lie dolphinheart


you have yet again become unstable,

and again, I don't reply to all posts
and again, don't worry about bro, unlike you he knows God.

dolphinheart:


does he agree with you that proverbs 8 :22- 30 is referring to Jesus?, if no is the answer, have you tried to tell him the truth? if you have tried to tell him the truth, has he accepted?

dolphinheart:

does he agree with you that proverbs 8 :22- 30 is referring to Jesus?, if no is the answer, have you tried to tell him the truth? if you have tried to tell him the truth, has he accepted?

brocab:
Which proves their's only One "I Am" two holding the very same title

Two holding the very same title, to me there are still two I ams. Are you seeing what am seeing?

brocab:
I want you to know that all scriptures are written in the bible
{1 Corinthians 11:3}I want you to realise that the head of every man is Christ, and the the head of a woman is man, and the Head of Christ is God.

Is this an acknowledgement from you that Jesus christ(physical/spiritual body) has a superior? Yes/No

brocab:
The NKIV, NIVUK, NIV, NCV, GOD'S WORD CEB, NASB These are some of the bibles you produce, to fight for you.

brocab, I did not ask you for a list of bibles , I did not ask you for a list of bibles I produce, I simply asked you to tell us the translation you quoted psalms 83:18 from, why is that so hArd for you to do!?, you have quoted psalms 83: 18, pls tell us the translation you used?

brocab:
That settles it-you would rather listen to the critic's those who are atheist, then listen to God Himself.
Not we, you are talking about the meaning of explanation of the scriptures.
You quoted scripture and I answered it with the Word Of God.
Call 911 and ask God directly instead of making yourself more confused about which bible holds the truth, or which critic holds their own written manuscripts, that you believe, more then the hole truth about Word Of God.

so you called God to ask him if the words of the verse under discussion is authentic or not?
brocab, people who are dubious , who want to use crooked brain to confuse others say what you just said above. There is an issue of authenticity on ground and you will use that method cus you know it's hard or almost imposible to verify if you are telling the truth or not. Like you, there are a lot of false people who say God is talking to them even when it's clear that they are lying.
I've given you irrevocable facts that the words in that verse cannot be found in the better, earlier, and most reliable manuscripts, I've shown you how people who study those manuscripts came to realise that some words where later added , words that where not in the original manuscripts, words that where no written by the author of that book. Your only defence is that you asked God!. Well , there are many like you hear in Nigeria, we see them everyday with their fake miracles and Co , acting as if na only dem get God's spirit.

(1)
King James Version
1Co 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

We all know that a man and a woman are two different persons, the verse says the man is the head of a woman, the woman here cannot be the man, neither can the man be the woman, how come some now feel that the christ in this verse is also God?
God is the head of christ how can God now be christ that he is the head of!

analyse this with what 1Co 15:27, 28 says.

(2)
in isaiahs prophecy, jehovah is talking about the Messiah, he said this :

King James Version
Isa 42:1Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.

We all know that Jehovah was talking about the Messiah , the fulfilment of those prophecies and who jehovah is reffering to can be found in the following verses: luke 9:35, 2Pe 1:17 and Matthew 3:16
How come some feel that jehovah is the messiah, why do some feel that Jehovah was talking about himself as his own servant?

(3)
King James Version
1Jo 4:9In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.

The verse says God sent his only begotten son, it did not say God sent himself!
Now the question is , did God send himself? If no is the answer , why is it that some feel that the one who was sent is also the one who did the sending.
modified:
johnw74, can you give your understanding of the scriptures mentioned above?

lie lie dolphinheart

you can only understand things of the flesh,
things of this world,
and not things of the Spirit.


And apart from that you don't believe the Bible that shows
the Word is God.

you don't understand
and you don't believe
double whammy



You lie lie dolphinheart don't know that God and the Word is God
two persons one God

and you lie lie don't believe the Bible which says so:




Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.



More on God being manifest in the flesh:

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Mat 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.


More on Jesus is God:
Act 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

1Co 15:47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
"Lord" in that verse is "kurios" meaning supreme in authority, God.
and who other than God is supreme in authority?

2Jn_1:7  For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

The Word-Jesus is God, as many Bible verses show,

God came in the flesh


false jw's deny that God came in the flesh,
false jw deny the Bible verses that show He did

antichrist jw say "a god" "a angel" came in the flesh


false jw deny at every opportunity that our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ is God

false jw deny every Bible scripture showing that our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ is God


false jw's preach constantly against their common enemy, denying: our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ


1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jn 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

Whoever denyeth the Son have not the Father also

false jw deny the Son is God
and false jw deny the Bible scriptures that show so

achorladey:

Oga wetin the person wey be the authority about this matter talk about himself and God.

Jesus said he and his father are one.

[quote author=dolphinheart post=51392681]
(go and learn how to quote)

you could not bring any scripture in any translation that says :
1. jesus is jehovah
2. jesus is almighty God
3. jesus and the father are one God almighty.

Verses you deny

Jesus is Jehovah God.

Jesus and his father are one Jehovah.
John 1:1, rev 1:8.

You mentioned Rev 1 : 18, it says :
King James Version
Re 1:18I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

the verse did not say jesus is almighty God(no wonder you could not quote it).
jesus says he was dead, SOLITE3 ALMIGHTY GOD CANNOT DIE!
Hab 1:12 Are you not from everlasting, O Jehovah? O my God, my Holy One, you do not die. O Jehovah, you appointed them to execute judgment; My Rock, you established them for punishment.

Jesus Son of God is God not less than God.
He is the Almighty without him Nothing would have been.

if Satan is not a god, plus tell us who is the god of this world?

satan is the god of blind men like you because he has fooled you to believe he is really God.

you have abandoned your lion analogy, no verse says jesus is the only true son of God, stop fomulating things!.

abadon what

we all know that jesus has brothers who are sons of God, we all know that apart from jesus, there are other sons of God, your analogies keep falling by the wayside .

years of brainwashing is taking its toll on you. Shm
Jesus brethren has flesh and blood, they are men not angels.

Sarang:


There is only one God Jehovah
John 17:3 Jesus himself called him the only true God.

Dolphin is right

show me where Jesus said there is only one God Jehovah

solite3:
Jesus said he and his father are one.

You are digressing from the main point highlighted in my question. Quick reminder the Bible verse highlighted in my question includes John 20:17, John 20:29. Please read again before answering. Who has the 'Authority' concerning this matter between Jesus and Thomas?

solite3:
Jesus said he and his father are one.

Now you quote John 17:21. Simple question, are you among the God(The Father, The son, The Holy spirit, The Solite3) now or your still a fleshly human? Since all those who believe and accept christ are one in God/christ, are you now on equal footing with God. Yes/No or is it until time of resurrection you attain GOD STATUS. I am very sure you've accepted christ.

solite3:
Jesus said he and his father are one.

Adam and Eve comes to mind, Adam shall cleave unto his wife and they shall be one flesh. Does this automatically make Adam equals Eve or vice versa?

achorladey:

You are digressing from the main point highlighted in my question. Quick reminder the Bible verse highlighted in my question includes John 20:17, John 20:29. Please read again before answering. Who has the 'Authority' concerning this matter between Jesus and Thomas?

your question is wrong, all of them said the truth.

achorladey:

Now you quote John 17:21. Simple question, are you among the God(The Father, The son, The Holy spirit, The Solite3) now or your still a fleshly human? Since all those who believe and accept christ are one in God/christ, are you now on equal footing with God. Yes/No or is it until time of resurrection you attain GOD STATUS. I am very sure you've accepted christ.

solite has the spirit of God so he is one with God by having same Spirit.

Christ is one with God in Spirit. The Spirit of Christ is the Spirit of God.

achorladey:

Adam and Eve comes to mind, Adam shall cleave unto his wife and they shall be one flesh. Does this automatically make Adam equals Eve or vice versa?

Eve is from Adam, yes eve and Adam are equal.

johnw74:

lie lie dolphinheart

you can only understand things of the flesh,
things of this world,
and not things of the Spirit.


And apart from that you don't believe the Bible that shows
the Word is God.

you don't understand
and you don't believe
double whammy



You lie lie dolphinheart don't know that God and the Word is God
two persons one God

and you lie lie don't believe the Bible which says so:




Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

1. And when I ask you those things of the spirit, you will run, claiming you are not hear to say such.
2. There is a post above yours,(I'll modify it and ado you moniker) can you explain the scriptures their? I don't think so!
3. John 1:1 says : In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god.
the word was with God, the word cannot be the God he was with!.

1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

It has been shown to you several times how your for fathers tried to change words in the scriptures to support their false doctrines, the word for God, colored red above cannot be found in the scriptures.
Below is the true rendering of that part of 1 ti 3:16:

[b]New International Version
Beyond all question, the mystery from which true godliness springs is great: He appeared in the flesh, was vindicated by the Spirit, was seen by angels, was preached among the nations, was believed on in the world, was taken up in glory

English Standard Version
Great indeed, we confess, is the mystery of godliness: He was manifested in the flesh, vindicated by the Spirit, seen by angels, proclaimed among the nations, believed on in the world, taken up in glory.

New American Standard Bible 
By common confession, great is the mystery of godliness: He who was revealed in the flesh, Was vindicated in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Proclaimed among the nations, Believed on in the world, Taken up in glory.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
And most certainly, the mystery of godliness is great: He was manifested in the flesh, vindicated in the Spirit, seen by angels, preached among the nations, believed on in the world, taken up in glory. 

International Standard Version
By common confession, the secret of our godly worship is great: In flesh was he revealed to sight, kept righteous by the Spirit's might, adored by angels singing. To nations was he manifest, believing souls found peace and rest, our Lord in heaven reigning! 
reigning! 

NET Bible
And we all agree, our religion contains amazing revelation: He was revealed in the flesh, vindicated by the Spirit, seen by angels, proclaimed among Gentiles, believed on in the world, taken up in glory. 

New Heart English Bible
Without controversy, the mystery of godliness is great: He was revealed in the flesh, justified by the Spirit, seen by angels, preached among the nations, believed on in the world, and received up in glory.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
The mystery that gives us our reverence for God is acknowledged to be great: He appeared in his human nature, was approved by the Spirit, was seen by angels, was announced throughout the nations, was believed in the world, and was taken to heaven in glory. 

New American Standard 1977 
And by common confession great is the mystery of godliness: 
            He who was revealed in the flesh, 
            Was vindicated in the Spirit, 
            Beheld by angels, 
            Proclaimed among the nations, 
            Believed on in the world, 
            Taken up in glory.

American Standard Version
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness; He who was manifested in the flesh, Justified in the spirit, Seen of angels, Preached among the nations, Believed on in the world, Received up in glory.

English Revised Version
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness; He who was manifested in the flesh, justified in the spirit, seen of angels, preached among the nations, believed on in the world, received up in glory.[/b]

Go and study the verse, search to see which translation is true, is the Greek word in that verse "he" or "God".
I know you wunt do such study and if you do , you will not post the result, for it will tell you that the greek word for God which is "thoes" cannot be foundisplayed in that verse, so where did your translation get the word for "god" that it used in that verse from .


The issue of 1 ti 3:16 has shown how deep false teachers had gone in trying to alter the original words of the authors, they have seen that no the scriptures do not directly support them, they initially relied on derived analogy, on perceived similarities ,while trying not to mention the differences. since all these will not work, they decided to alter certain words in the scriptures .
Rev 1:8 is another example, adding words to the scriptures , not knowing that better manuscripts are kept hidden from their powers.

More on God being manifest in the flesh:

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Jesus is a god, a mighty one, even angels are gods , but Jesus is not almighty God, he is a son to the almighty God, a subject who remaims subjected to the almighty God, he is at the right side of God, the almighty God, the most high, the supreme being, Jesus is not the most high he is at the right side of.
Jesus is not the God that exalted him
Jesus is not the God that raised him
Jesus is not the most high he pleads on our behalf from
Jesus is not the almighty God.

Jesus is the son of God
1Jo 4:9By this the love of God was revealed in our case, that God sent his only-begotten Son into the world so that we might gain life through him.[/u]

Jesus is son of the most high
[b]King James Version
Lu 1:32He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

Jesus is at the right hand of God, he does not sit on the throne of God
[b]Heb 12:2as we look intently at the Chief Agent and Perfecter of our faith, Jesus. For the joy that was set before him he endured a torture stake, despising shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God..

Heb 10:12But this man offered one sacrifice for sins for all time and sat down at the right hand of God,

Ro 8:34Who will condemn them? Christ Jesus is the one who died, yes, more than that the one who was raised up, who is at the right hand of God and who also pleads for us.

1Pe 3:22 He is at God’s right hand, for he went to heaven, and angels and authorities and powers were made subject to him.

Ac 2:33Therefore, because he was exalted to the right hand of God and received the promised holy spirit from the Father, he has poured out what you see and hear[/u]


Jesus is subjected to God.
1Co 15:27For God “subjected all things under his feet.” But when he says that ‘all things have been subjected,’ it is evident that this does not include the One who subjected all things to him.
1Co 15:28But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone.

Jesus has a God he calls "my God" both here on earth and in heaven!
Joh 20:17Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’”
Re 3:12“‘The one who conquers—I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God, and he will by no means go out from it anymore, and I will write upon him the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the New Jerusalem that descends out of heaven from my God, and my own new name.[/u]


Mat 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, [b]God with us.

More on Jesus is God:
Act 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

you are now trying to predict my response, wow! 

johnw74, it is always good to study the Bible, it is also good to make sure of what the Bible you are quoting is really saying.

is it the blood of God that was used for our purchasing or the blood of Jesus.?

King James Version
1Jo 1:5-7 :This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
6. If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
7. But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ HIS SON cleanseth us from all sin.

Does act 20: 28 now indicate Jesus is the God in 1 john 1:5 ? no ooooo!
Jesus is the son of God , gods own Son,.

The footnote of some Translations read 
(NIV)
Footnotes:
a. acts 20:28 Many manuscripts of the Lord
b. acts 20:28 Or with the blood of his own son

(ESV) 
Footnotes:
a. acts 20:28 Some manuscripts of the Lord
b. acts 20:28 Or with the blood of his own son

acts 20:28 Revised Standard Version (RSV)
Take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to care for the church of God which he obtained with the blood of his own Son.
Footnotes:
a. acts 20:28 Other ancient authorities read of the Lord
b. acts 20:28 [/color=blue]Greek with the blood of his Own or with his own blood[/color]

acts 20:28 New Revised Standard Version, Anglicised (NRSVA)
Keep watch over yourselves and over all the flock, of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God that he obtained with the blood of his own Son.
Footnotes:
a. acts 20:28 Other ancient authorities read of the Lord
b. acts 20:28 Or with his own blood ; Gk with the blood of of his own.

when you read the scriptures you understand better. You will know if God did send his son or if he sent himself to be a man.
King James Version
Re 1:5,6 - And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us,and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
:6And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

King James Version
Joh 3:16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

I sincerely pray that you read and respond to this scriptures I've posted to you.
GOD DID NOT SEND HIMSELF TO DIE, GOD CANNOT DIE, HE SENT HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON TO SHED HIS BLOOD ON OUR BEHALF. GOD GAVE HIS SON , NOT HIMSELF!!
JESUS DIED, GOD CANNOT DIE.



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1Co 15:47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is [b]the Lord from heaven.
"Lord" in that verse is "kurios" meaning supreme in authority, God.
and who other than God is supreme in authority?

1 cor 15:47
New International Version
The first man was of the dust of the earth; the second man is of heaven.

English Standard Version
The first man was from the earth, a man of dust; the second man is from heaven.

New American Standard Bible 
The first man is from the earth, earthy; the second man is from heaven.

International Standard Version
The first man came from the dust of the earth; the second man came from heaven.

A look at the Greek text shows that the Greek word for "Lord" cannot be found in that verse.

ὁ[b]πρῶτος ἄνθρωπος ἐκ γῆς χοϊκός, ὁ δεύτερος ἄνθρωπος ἐξ οὐρανοῦ.[/b]

IT IS NOT GOOD TO SPREAD FALSE TRANSLATIONS OF THE SCRIPTURES!

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solite3 can almighty God die? no
did Jesus die? Yes
Jesus is not almighty God

You are someone's son, you are not the someone you are son of.
Jesus is the son of God, Jesus is not the God he is son of.
You and the one you are son of are both humans, but you are not the same human!, you are different humans!
Almighty God has a son, Jesus does not have a son!
Jesus is subjected to God , both on earth and in heaven!

you have abandoned your lion analogy

Jesus has brothers, God does not have brothers
Jesus is an heir, God is not an heir
angels are also sons of God , if son of God is God, how come angels are not God too.

Satan is the "theos" of these system of things , deal with that!

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solite3 can almighty God die? no
did Jesus die? Yes
Jesus is not almighty God

it doesnt change John1:1 that Jesus is God Almighty. So far you have not be able quote a verse to prove me wrong.
Jesus has all power both in heaven and on earth, every knee bow to him and every tongue confess him without him nothing can exist, he uphold all things by his word. He is alpha and Omega beginning and the ending he is the Lord Almighty.
Your denial does not even count.
All angels worship him even your god of this world will fall down at the mention of his name.
millions are calling on the name of Jesus and are being set free.
I invite you to know him and call on his name.
To him all creation will serve Amen.

]You are someone's son, you are not the someone you are son of.
Jesus is the son of God, Jesus is not the God he is son of.
You and the one you are son of are both humans, but you are not the same human!, you are different humans!
Almighty God has a son, Jesus does not have a son!

with this, are you telling me Jesus is a different God from the father? When Jehovah said he is the only God?


i never said Jesus is the Father but that Jesus and his Father are one God.
my father is a true human therefore i his son am also a true human. I and my father are the same species not two different species.
Jesus is true God because his father is true God.

Jesus is subjected to God , both on earth and in heaven!

you have abandoned your lion analogy

Jesus as a human is subject to God his Father.
Your wish is for me to abadon my lion analogy but i have passed the message to you and you got it.

Jesus has brothers, God does not have brothers
Jesus is an heir, God is not an heir
angels are also sons of God , if son of God is God, how come angels are not God too.

angels are not begotten sons of God So they do not have the nature of God they are only servants.

Hebrews 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?


we christians are Jesus brother because we have one nature.


John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

Jesus never called angels his brethren.


Hebrews 2:11 For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,



Hebrews 2:17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.

Satan is the "theos" of these system of things , deal with that!

it does not make him a real God.

christians do not recognise satan as God only blind men do.

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solite has the spirit of God so he is one with God by having same Spirit.

Christ is one with God in Spirit. The Spirit of Christ is the Spirit of God.[/quote
Are you God now? That is the question. Since you and christ are one.

solite3:
your question is wrong, all of them said the truth.

Thomas was doubting the truth despite following Jesus for a Long time. My question remain what did the person having 'authority' over this matter say about his God?

solite3:
Eve is from Adam, yes eve and Adam are equal.

Prove there equality to me