I got to my room about 11:00 and sat on my bed thinking what a stupid, ignorant fool I had been. I had rejected God;

I had been dishonest. I had actually been stupid in my response to the evidence available to me. I did not like people who refuse to look at the evidence and draw intelligent conclusions. I did not like people who could not break free of their parents' thinking and do their own thinking. I had
always accused the religionists of doing this, yet I recognized that I had been guilty of the same thing. I had refused to be honest — to look at the evidence. I had refused to make comparative choices based upon what was available to me. I was miserable.

I have tried almost everything you can imagine to find pleasure and happiness. I will not try to tell you that I did not find pleasure using my own system of following my own desires, but I can guarantee you that I did not find happiness. I tried every conceivable thing you can think of. I tried all kinds of things — things that were immoral, that were wrong, that hurt other people, and things that I would not even want to describe.
I did those things because I was trying to find pleasure and happiness and, as I say, I found pleasure sometimes. However, I never went to bed at night satisfied or happy

I see it's more about pleasure, selfish pleasure. Most of the atheists know the truth but they allow their selfish desires dictate for them, especially the Christians turned atheists.

Anyway, they're witnesses to themselves of how fulfilled they are with acting out their desires and how empty or unhappy they are on their beds afterwards.

They are witnesses to themselves. they may defend themselves right here with every weapon they can find, but deep down their hearts they know.

The amazing thing is that nothing is hidden before God.

What's the essence of selfish desires at the expense of true happiness. Indeed, wisdom is not really common.

We've all forgotten everything God does is for our sake.

As long as you're not connected to God, all the form of pleasures of this world you partake in will never, never lead to happiness, not to talk of joy.

I wish all of us grace.

hopefulLandlord:


when will this pure nonsense statement created by pathetic religious people and spread by ignorant ones who come after them stop?


This thread examines and shows how nonsensical and asinine such statements are

OGA go and take several seats.

you are not making sense.

butterflylion:
You can start by answering the questions the Op asked his professors.
You make too much empty noise.

I just taya for him

hahn:


Well, one part of being an atheists is that you always seek for evidence and scrutinize everything that comes your way

We are not encouraged by a book written by goat herders to believe blindly

abeg swerve joor

see the hypocritical hardmirrored lie you want to hardmirror someone with.

LambanoPeace:


As how your commander in chief Oluwaseun sought for evidence and scrutinized everything that was on that hardmirror's thread before moving it to front page, abi?


Monumental hypocrites... Shift make I pass joor.

you still get their time.

these atheist guys should considered as hardmirrored LAIRS.

NAHTOL.

hopefulLandlord:


the link simply addresses one of the many misconceptions about atheism

we argue and discuss to plant seed of doubts while clearing misconceptions on what atheism is

I see the guys who argue with us as the people wasting time not us

atheism keeps growing on this forum

the more I see this guy ^^ comment on NL religion sector, the more I see a new worsening case of delusion and dumbness.

atheism is growing on NL?

what sort of lie is this?

I don't just know why you guys derive fun from lying. I don't just know. just to hardmirror some gullible folks. you guys too dey lie. is it because you people believe that conscience does not exist? that's why you will love to hardmirror people with lies on the forum.

FYI, atheism is DEAD AND BURIED in this forum.

what you are doing now is that you are trying to pick up it's dead, buried and decayed pieces. But sorry, that's not still working too.

so, just get a real check for you life.

^^^

wake up and smell the coffee!

hopefulLandlord:


all these questions are called "God of the gaps"

it simply goes like this

Atheist: I don't believe there's a god

Theist: do you know how life came about and how the earth and the universe came about?

Atheist: I don't know but I won't fill replace that ignorance of mine with an imaginary being

basically "Because current science hasn't figured out exactly how life started, it must be God who caused life to start"

you can always use this logic for almost any question we are yet to get answers to but it doesn't do god any favours

God-of-the-gaps arguments have been discouraged by many theologians who assert that such arguments tend to relegate God to the leftovers of science: as scientific knowledge increases, the dominion of God decreases.

as for morality, the fact that we got rid of slavery and slave trade shows that our morals didn't come from any imaginary being, almost all religions in the world sees nothing wrong in slavery or straight up endorses it but we as humans realised it has no place in modern life

also consider the fact that morality actually varies from society to society and two different societies can have differing morals despite claiming to worship the same god!

Another foolish deception is this nonsense logic of God of gap, this and that.

what I saying here is not for you, the quoted, because it is a waste on you.

There are things that are OBVIOUSLY not explainable by sciences. in this case, saying that science will discover one day is a just a wishful thinking borne out of a weird delusion, ignorance, dishonesty, stupidity and denial.

for the unknown to have a tendency of being discovered by science, it must have a scientific basis. it just like saying that science will discover what happened before big bang. that's simply dumb, because the natural laws(science) that we have now is not the same with what we have before big bang. it is opposite.

There is no way you can discover something with an opposing view, other wise you are just creating A NEW LIE that will be debunked one day.

so, when something is obvious that it doesn't work under the natural laws we have now in the world, it means for that to have happened, there must have been an outside force. and that force must not be a natural force, but Supernatural.

hopefulLandlord:
^^^

wake up and smell the coffee!

leave all this your coffee nonsense, it is making you act more deluded and ignorant.

again, get yourself a real check.

darbeelicous:
I've being a silent follower in these christain and atheists thread recently.
I've always opined that atheists are those who are afraid in one way or the other to dedicate their lives and be totally committed in a supreme being........ So they choose to live free.
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Not that it's wrong or anything!
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but dats just my opinion though,
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#God'snotdead.

may i know your believe. in a Chritian God (Yahweh? OR in a Supreme Being which didn't reveal itself? elaborate please.

Can Promise10 and his many monickers stop quoting me? can't he see I'm ignoring him by not quoting him?

Chai!! he finds it hard to get the memo

darbeelicous:
I'm not going to have any argument with you dear because like I said, that's my opinion,............ But if u think that my opinion does not make sense, then that's your opinion. ........

Lol... Madam opinion.

hahn:


Well, one part of being an atheists is that you always seek for evidence and scrutinize everything that comes your way

We are not encouraged by a book written by goat herders to believe blindly

And one thing common to nairaland atheists, is that they love evidence of convenience.

Why is it that any scientific research or experiment that discredits atheism, is tagged unreliable or something?

Does it mean that atheism is perfect in all ramifications?

LaClicKLaBenDin:


And one thing common to nairaland atheists, is that they love evidence of convenience.

Why is it that any scientific research or experiment that discredits atheism, is tagged unreliable or something?

Does it mean that atheism is perfect in all ramifications?

Take it easy.

I don't want shouts of 'no true Scotsman fallacy' at the Op.

Actually, I personally prefer the use of no true Christian fallacy.

Let's just stop here

Happy new month

promisechuks:


Another foolish deception is this nonsense logic of God of gap, this and that.

what I saying here is not for you, the quoted, because it is a waste on you.

There are things that are OBVIOUSLY not explainable by sciences. in this case, saying that science will discover one day is a just a wishful thinking borne out of a weird delusion, ignorance, dishonesty, stupidity and denial.

for the unknown to have a tendency of being discovered by science, it must have a scientific basis. it just like saying that science will discover what happened before big bang. that's simply dumb, because the natural laws(science) that we have now is not the same with what we have before big bang. it is opposite.

There is no way you can discover something with an opposing view, other wise you are just creating A NEW LIE that will be debunked one day.

so, when something is obvious that it doesn't work under the natural laws we have now in the world, it means for that to have happened, there must have been an outside force. and that force must not be a natural force, but Supernatural.

With all your points about some things not being discovered by science, doesn't it debunk your case.

Science with all its experiments and technology doesn't know what happened before the big bang but you think its religion with its dogma and archaic holy books that can discover.

In case you don't understand what god of the gaps is,

Let me explain it
Wonderful things in nature happen and you call them supernatural, historical things that can't be rediscovered have occured and we know science can't decipher them with its tools. We now have a void of knowledge that science hasn't filled because its logical and it's beyond its grasp,

Now the same people who claim science can't know now claim that they know.
Not just that they know buy that they know the name of the person that did it.
They know his son, they know his chosen tribe, they know the miracles he has performed, they know his will for their lives and all that. Now how do these people know?

They know by a logical, ancient book written in human language and logical constructs, the same logic that science can't use to decipher anything the only difference is that their logic is actually weaker.
They also claim they know by spiritual revelation, how do they know that the revelation is spiritual? They have a conviction.

They use the strength of their so called spiritual conviction to claim that they know and it's beyond science.

They don't know that they are unknowingly using science and logic, if you feel you have an experience that is so wonderful and supernatural and because of that experience you are sure that the spiritual is real, you are actually using logic because you are claiming that the conviction and experience with a greater effect on you is the real one which is basically logical comparison.

Christians and other religious people, if you claim that science can't know every thing, that's fine with us cause personally I don't believe science can know every thing, the only thing we ask is , how do you Christian know everything? Science doesn't know but you know. Is that not arrogance?

hopefulLandlord:
Can Promise10 and his many monickers stop quoting me? can't he see I'm ignoring him by not quoting him?

Chai!! he finds it hard to get the memo

if you think I am anti-hopefullandlord, then better go and take several seats. YOU DON'T HAVE WHAT IT TAKES. You definitely don't worth it.


I don't hate you man, but your delusion.

when you ignore me, it is even better. because it will reduce the number of delusions I have to destroy in a day so that I can focus on other delusions. so, whether you ignore me or not, it is simply needless to me. because what drives me to quote you, is the delusion rot in most of your posts.

mark my words, any day I will see you make a good point, I will recommend you for that. That's what I do on NL. So, your feelings towards my actions to your post is just useless to me.

you get that?

LaClicKLaBenDin:


And one thing common to nairaland atheists, is that they love evidence of convenience.

Why is it that any scientific research or experiment that discredits atheism, is tagged unreliable or something?

Does it mean that atheism is perfect in all ramifications?

I don't agree well with your first statement.

you should edit it to:
"And one thing common to nairaland atheists, is that THEY LOVE LIES.
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Immorttal:
may i know your believe. in a Chritian God (Yahweh? OR in a Supreme Being which didn't reveal itself? elaborate please.

I'm a Christian who believe in the existence of God (who is supreme)............ This is my uncompromising faith.

LaClicKLaBenDin:


And one thing common to nairaland atheists, is that they love evidence of convenience.

Why is it that any scientific research or experiment that discredits atheism, is tagged unreliable or something?

Does it mean that atheism is perfect in all ramifications?

Nothing is perfect. Atheists might be wrong for not believing in any supreme being. That is if any actually exist.

The lack of evidence that this "God" exists is what keeps atheists ambivalent of the concept.

Till "God" shows itself in a suit or a basketball jersey it will continue to be treated as non existent by those who require evidence and don't subscribe to blind belief

LambanoPeace:


As how your commander in chief Oluwaseun sought for evidence and scrutinized everything that was on that hardmirror's thread before moving it to front page, abi?


Monumental hypocrites... Shift make I pass joor.

Lol. Coming from someone who believes there is an old man with a bad temper in the sky

blueAgent:
Food is ready

Wilgrea7,OLAADEGBU,
lordnicklaus,raphieMontella,felixomor,
produce, winner01,
harlems02, Zoharariel,
PunkyV,KingEbukasBlog,
analice107,MEILYN,
hahn,GooseBaba,
hopefulLandlord,
otemanuduno,ValentineMaryEdenoscar, johnydon22, EyeHateGod, Immorttal,
Buharimustdie20, HCpaul,Teempakguy,
Mizblinks, TrajansKong, davien, norant Atheists,
JackBizzle

I will say this again. I am not an atheist.

hahn:


Nothing is perfect. Atheists might be wrong for not believing in any supreme being. That is if any actually exist.

The lack of evidence that this "God" exists is what keeps atheists ambivalent of the concept.

Till "God" shows itself in a suit or a basketball jersey it will continue to be treated as non existent by those who require evidence and don't subscribe to blind belief

I just marvel when people say that atheists are intelligent folks. it is an abuse on "Intelligence".

I have only myself to be blamed for engaging these guys in the first place. That's why I get mentioned in stupid threads like this.

So in other words, our guy left atheism due to a appeal to authority fallacy, right? "A prof said it can't be done. So, it can't be done"

I suppose if max Planck, Leonhard Euler, Nikola Tesla, the wright brothers, and Steve Jobs were like our boy here, the world would have been as advanced as this.

Please refrain from wasting my time like this in the future.

Atheists are very slow and dull.
One of them said that until God wear jersey and take a stroll to a basketball court he will not believe. African atheists are particularly stupid and irrationally close minded. some white atheist are open minded and are very open to rational discussion.
There is nothing like African atheist only blacks who take white as their god become atheists. Ask them question you see them quoting theories and philosophy of their white masters, this is why africa is at the background in everything. Some Black people's mentality is too poor!

Teempakguy:
I have only myself to be blamed for engaging these guys in the first place. That's why I get mentioned in stupid threads like this.

So in other words, our guy left atheism due to a appeal to authority fallacy, right? "A prof said it can't be done. So, it can't be done"

I suppose if max Planck, Leonhard Euler, Nikola Tesla, the wright brothers, and Steve Jobs were like our boy here, the world would have been as advanced as this.

Please refrain from wasting my time like this in the future.

why dont you answer the question if you can

@ bold so because the man has asked question he is a stumbling block to advancement?
If those men you quoted were like you humanity would have still be in the stone age.
Nonsense

solite3:
why dont you answer the question if you can

@ bold so because the man has asked question he is a stumbling block to advancement?
If those men you quoted were like you humanity would have still be in the stone age.
Nonsense

my friend shut up.

The problem is not that he started asking. It is that some unscrupulous elements gave him totally wrong answers, and he believed it.

Let him sit down there and be lamenting while science uncovers all the mysteries giving him headache.

Teempakguy:
my friend shut up.

The problem is not that he started asking. It is that some unscrupulous elements gave him totally wrong answers, and he believed it.

Let him sit down there and be lamenting while science uncovers all the mysteries giving him headache.

atheism is irrational so because they were truthful enough that science has no answer mean they are unscrupulous? Dont be this dumb, what answers has science presented?

solite3:
atheism is irrational so because they were truthful enough that science has no answer mean they are unscrupulous? Dont be this dumb, what answers has science presented?

just because there are no current answers, gives no one the right to dictate what science can or cannot do. All they had to say was; who knows, you might be the one to find out.

lordnicklaus:

I will say this again. I am not an atheist.

Don't miss understand me. I did not limit the names to that of athiests, i also mentioned the names of Thiests like , felixomor, KingEbukablog,Winners and you with the names of Athiests.

Teempakguy:
just because there are no current answers, gives no one the right to dictate what science can or cannot do. All they had to say was; who knows, you might be the one to find out.

Just accept the fact and logic that nothing can come from nothing.even if you give Science 10000yrs they will still not have an answer.

Teempakguy:
my friend shut up.

The problem is not that he started asking. It is that some unscrupulous elements gave him totally wrong answers, and he believed it.

Let him sit down there and be lamenting while science uncovers all the mysteries giving him headache.

Their is no logical explanation for the origin of Matter from nothing other than A believe in God as the maker of matter.

peacesamuel94:
Any atheist that regard the belief in a God as illogical, is simply a pot calling the kettle black.

Only a believe in God answers all the questions concerning the origin of the Universe and still remains consistent with the laws of Science.

www.nairaland.com/3236915/facts-prove-science-supports-bible