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Re: How To Understand Mathew 10:34 by alBHAGDADI: 11:28am On Dec 11, 2016
uzoexcel:
Here's my confusion
What makes Israel so different that entire nation's v to be annihilated? I thought it was the same God that created everyone...who created the ammonites the hittites the edomites etc

And if God has been rootingfor Israel all this years, why is the black man rooting for him since we are not Israelites or did something change?

You've asked a very beautiful question. Now let me give you an answer which private jet flying pastors will not tell you, either cos they don't know or cos they want to hide the truth from you. Read the below verse carefully. For better understanding, I'll use the...
International Standard Version

Genesis 6:4

"The Nephilim were on the earth at that time (and also immediately afterward), when those divine beings were having sexual relations with those human women, who gave birth to children for them. These children became the heroes and legendary figures of ancient times."

Other English translations used GIANTS in place of nephilims.

The verse speaks of how Rebellious Angels left heaven and came to earth to have sexual relationship with human women, a union that gave birth to Giants who had some angelic powers too and we're very wicked. They were half angels half humans. This giants went to to marry human women and gave birth to Elouids who weren't giants but looked normal and with some of the powers of angels.

That rebellious act by the angels was inspired by Satan who wanted to corrupt mankind's DNA. Why would he want to do that? Satan knew that a pure human blood would be used to destroy him. So, in order to avoid that, he decided to send his loyal angeks to pollute human DNA with angelic blood.

Remember I said that the giants produced children called Elouids who looked like normal humans, but internally they contained the polluted DNA.

God chose the children of ISRAEL to be the nation that will produce that precious, pure and sinless blood that will destroy Satan. By then, Satan had already succeeded in polluting the blood of so many nations in the world then cos they married the Elouids who have the polluted DNA. That was why God ordered the Israelites never to marry from the nation's around them. If they had disobeyed, that polluted DNA would have crept into their midst thereby blocking their chance of producing the Messiah with pure blood.

When Satan saw that his antics were blocked, he decided to raise those nations to fight against the Israelites. Those nations were pagans who already worshipped Satan and we're willing to do his bidding. It was those nations that the children of ISRAEL were constantly battling in war. Goliath of the Philistines was a Nephilim giant who lost in battle to David. The children of ISRAEL had to arm themselves so as to prevent those nations from destroying them. The same thing is happening today with Lebanon, Palestine, Egypt, Iran, Hezbollah etc all fighting against Israel.

The Bible records a woman who gave birth to a child. While she was pregnant, a red dragon stood waiting to consume the child, but the child was whisked away to heaven. When Satan couldn't get hold of the child, he waged war against the woman.

The woman is Israel, the child is Christ, the dragon is Satan and the war he wages on the woman is the war those Arab nations are waging against Israel till today.

I will open a thread on this to fully explain it to you for better understanding.
Re: How To Understand Mathew 10:34 by samuelezekiel(m): 11:30am On Dec 11, 2016
I feel you bro, you are in the spirit...
Re: How To Understand Mathew 10:34 by alBHAGDADI: 11:34am On Dec 11, 2016
realmindz:


so his mission changed after he died?

Or Jesus did not understand what he came for at first, or was he confused. And why cant make it clear he came for the world.?

I read and understood clearly. I CAME ONLY FOR THE LOST SHEEP OF ISRAEL.

Are u an Israelite?
Pls, stop confusing yourself. He was sent to save the entire world He had to save the ISRAEL nation first then use them to save the rest of the world. It is almost like APC doing well in Lagos before using that to convince the entire nation to vote for them.

I don't think you are here to learn but to make mockery. Pls, goodbye.
Re: How To Understand Mathew 10:34 by olutop(m): 11:40am On Dec 11, 2016
* where is it mentioned in quran to kill as you claim?
it's really obvious the way u pple r displaying ignorance thinking that u r making sence and the same Quran that u r deliberately misquoted makes everything crystal clear
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Exactly wat am saying, is not in the quran 2 kill but yet muslim kill in the name of Allah guess you people have to do re- orientation for ur fellow muslims.

Until gullible individuals stop mentioning Allah wen dey are abt 2 behead an innocent individual dnt tell me Muslim preaches peace all you av 2 do is to argue or correct ur brothers.
Re: How To Understand Mathew 10:34 by realmindz: 11:57am On Dec 11, 2016
alBHAGDADI:
Pls, stop confusing yourself. He was sent to save the entire world He had to save the ISRAEL nation first then use them to save the rest of the world. It is almost like APC doing well in Lagos before using that to convince the entire nation to vote for them.

I don't think you are here to learn but to make mockery. Pls, goodbye.

And d all powerful Yaweh has to go through a tribe in Israel to save the whole world.
And yes u are right, I am yet to make mockery of an illogical fairy tale
Re: How To Understand Mathew 10:34 by kolaish(m): 11:59am On Dec 11, 2016
OP, God bless you for your wisdom.
Re: How To Understand Mathew 10:34 by alBHAGDADI: 12:01pm On Dec 11, 2016
realmindz:


And d all powerful Yaweh has to go through a tribe in Israel to save the whole world.
And yes u are right, I am yet to make mockery of an illogical fairy tale
This ridiculous Atheist believes his ancestors are apes, monkeys and baboons.

gringringrin
Re: How To Understand Mathew 10:34 by opelyem(m): 12:05pm On Dec 11, 2016
aminusanti:
confused hypocrite! So u can understand when a verse is in it context??but when it comes to the Quran u turn your face?
Your explanation is what I call complete nonsense, u are busy contradicting yourself without even realizing it.. most of you Paulians r suffering from Cognitive dissonance.

So r u now trying to tell us that the God of OT is different from NT??

You pple always singing God of OT and God of NT always make me laff. Focus on ur religion not on others. Is that too difficult?
Re: How To Understand Mathew 10:34 by yakamata(m): 12:49pm On Dec 11, 2016
alBHAGDADI:
Mathew 10:34

34 “Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.


Did you read the above verse? That verse has been misunderstood by many people in this world. Majority of them wonder why a well known peaceful man like Yahshua could utter such words. Non-Christians have often used that verse out of context to say that Christ supports terrorism and wasn't as peaceful as Christians portray him.

To understand the above verse, we have to understand certain things which will explain the verse better and show how misconstrued the verse has been in the hands of malicious people. Be patient enough to read the below story.

Kareem was born into a devoted Non-Christian family in the Middle East. He loved his God with all his earth and did his best to please him by not questioning the faith as restricted by his religion. However, he stumbled on a Christian book that changed him forever. He started seeing things differently. But the only problem he had was his family members and most especially his country. The punishment his religion prescribes for anyone that leaves it is DEATH.

His father was the first to notice that he has stopped praying and attending their religious house. When he was asked why, he remembered the words of Christ in Mathew 10: 33 which says

"But everyone who denies me here on earth, I will also deny before my Father in heaven."

Kareem couldn't help but confess to his father about his new faith. His father sparked with rage and went straight to the religious house. Little did Kareem know of what his father was up to. Two hours later, a large mob with sticks and stones were gathered in front of his house calling for his head for abandoning their religion. Thank God for the back door, he would have been dead by now. He still couldn't believe his father could want him dead for having a different religious opinion. END


Now that you've read the story, let's see how it relates to the verse. Remember I told you of how the verse is always quoted out of context by malicious people who quote that verse without reading further for more understanding. Let's see the verse again and the succeeding verses. Be patient enough to read through.

Mathew 10:34-39

34 “Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.
35 “For I came to SET A MAN AGAINST HIS FATHER, AND A DAUGHTER AGAINST HER MOTHER, AND A DAUGHTER-IN-LAW AGAINST HER MOTHER-IN-LAW;
36 and A MAN’S ENEMIES WILL BE THE MEMBERS OF HIS HOUSEHOLD.
37 “He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; and he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me.
38 “And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me.
39 “He who has found his life will lose it, and he who has lost his life for My sake will find it.

From the above verses, we can see that the sword Christ was speaking of is the type that divides. In the case of Kareem, his love for Yahshua the Messiah has divided or separated him from his family as he can no longer visit them cos doing that will be his death. He has decided to be worthy of Christ by obeying verse 37. Same thing applies when you are redeemed from a pagan family, their lifestyle will no longer make sense to you. They won't want you in their midst anymore. That is the division that the sword of Yahshua brings, not the sword that beheads or cuts human parts.

I hope you now understand the verse very well. If you still haven't, then ask yourself these questions:
1. How come he preached turning the other cheek?
2. How come he prayed for his killers while he was on the cross?
3. How come his message was always love?
4. How come he didn't kill anybody but ressurected a dead man?
5. How come he rebuked Peter for using a knife on a soldier whom he later healed?

I could go on and on...and if at this moment you still dont understand the verse and entire passage, then it means you are not being sincere with yourself.

Peace

kindly explain this
Deuteronomy 13:6 If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known, 7 gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), 8 do not yield to them orlisten to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. 9 You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. 10 Stone them to death, because they tried toturn you away from the Lord your God, whobrought you out of Egypt, out of the land ofslavery. 11 Then all Israel will hear and be afraid, and no one among you will do such an evil thing again.
Re: How To Understand Mathew 10:34 by babajero(m): 12:49pm On Dec 11, 2016
aminusanti:
confused hypocrite! So u can understand when a verse is in it context??but when it comes to the Quran u turn your face?
Your explanation is what I call complete nonsense, u are busy contradicting yourself without even realizing it.. most of you Paulians r suffering from Cognitive dissonance.

So r u now trying to tell us that the God of OT is different from NT??
that Bible verse you quoted was the law of moses when man was still under bondage from the powers of Satan, but when Christ came he abolished most laws with His blood, but the Jews though liberated still live by the laws of moses, that is why Muslims still cry till today that the Jews don't give them breathing space because they believe on ' eye for an eye' on like Christians who believe on forgiveness. Just like the Jews, the Muslims still follow the laws of moses but some how manipulated by Mohammed for his own gain and perversion, that was why every bad things he did while alive became an Islamic law. Christians follow the teachings of Jesus Christ, chukwu, Jesu Christi, yesu, osanobua, that is to show that He is God of all languages and tribes and He died for all humanity, but Muslims follow the teachings of Mohammed. And that is why Christians TRY to live like Christ on earth, I used TRY because no man is perfect and Christians knows this, and the Muslims live like Mohammed, that is why openly try to live a good life but in the closet devils incarnate. The Bible said that all man has sinned and has fallen short of the Glory of God, that includes Mohammed, but Christ came to restore our dignity in Jehovah.
Re: How To Understand Mathew 10:34 by aminusanti(m): 1:01pm On Dec 11, 2016
alBHAGDADI:
Aminusanti is up to his old tricks of derailing a thread by posting irrelevant pictures of scriptures taken out of context. grin

That Exodus 22:20 is something you pulled out of context just as you always do concerning the verse the OP just explained. Now, let me explain this verse shortly. If you read Exodus from Chapter 20 down to Chapter 22, you will notice that Moses was given out a commandment to the Nation of ISRAEL only, which doesn't count for other nations. It was like their constitution.

God wanted to preserve the nation of ISRAEL and in order to do that, he had to ensure that they don't go after foreign gods which are actually Satan in disguise. Worshipping other gods would lead them astray from produces the main goal which is the Messiah. Now that they have produced the Messiah, such law that orders the killing of any ISRAELite that worships other god is no longer used. That's why we have gays, pagans and even Muslims in Israel today.

As for the Quran verse you showed in the picture, how come there are several verses that contradict that one?

“Kill the idolaters wherever you find them, and capture them, and blockade them, and watch for them at every lookout...” (Quran 9:5).


why u didnt quote the next verse? undecided .. to understand the verse read from 9:1 to 9:6 its as clear as wine but this critic will still come up with verse much later, I will put the explanation below if u dissagree provide urs lets see. If u like u can use the strategy of saying is copy n paste and run away as usual.

If we read from start it states that there was a treaty, which the Pagans of Arab broke. Thus Allah gave them 4 months as 9:2 states in order to amend the treaty. Verse 9:4 states that the punishment prescribed in 9:5 is ONLY to those who broke the treaty and NOT to those who abided by the treaty. Therefore the context of 9:5 is of war with the pagan Arabs who broke the treaty yet refused to amend it in 4 months.

And the next verse after that says: read >

“And if anyone of the idolaters seeketh thy protection (O Muhammad), then protect him so that he may hear the Word of Allah, and afterward convey him to his place of safety. That is because they are a folk who know not. (PICKTHAL Translation, Quran 9:6)



3:28 Don’t take unbelievers as friends and allies, unless it is for “fear of _them,” i.e. deceptively for protection of oneself or of Islam

what's wrong with that? The verse clearly states "let's not the believer take the disbelievers as Auliya (supporters, helpers, etc) instead of the believers"

5:51“O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Whoso of you makes them his friends is one of them. Allah guides not the people of the evildoers.”
mistranslated by PICKTHAL and other major translator

“In the verse you quoted, the word “Awliya” is used. It is a plural and its singular is “wali”. The correct translation of the word “”wali”” is not “friend” but it is someone who is very close and intimate. It is also used to mean “guardian, protector, patron, lord and master.”
Allah says that Allah alone is the Auliya (in a sense of a protector):
The likeness of those who take Auliyâ’ (protectors and helpers) other than Allâh is as the likeness of a spider, who builds (for itself) a house, but verily, the frailest (weakest) of houses is the spider’s house; if they but knew. (Al-’Ankabut 29:41)

Or have they taken (for worship) Auliyâ’ (guardians, supporters, helpers, protectors, etc.) besides Him? But Allâh, He Alone is the Walî (Protector, etc.). And it is He Who gives life to the dead, and He is Able to do all things. (Ash-Shura 42:9)


9:73
“O Prophet, struggle with the unbelievers and hypocrites, and be thou harsh with them; their refuge is Gehenna — an evil homecoming!”
War time verse

9:123 “O believers, fight the unbelievers who are near to you; and let them find in you a harshness; and know that Allah is with the godfearing.”
War time verse

48:29 “Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and those who are with him are hard against the unbelievers, merciful one to another.”
War time verse

Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion is all for Allah"
War time verse

Now, compare all these above verses with the Quran verse in the picture below and tell me if the Quran is not contradictory or deceitful.
Now point out the contradiction..
Again! arguing with u is a complete waste of time, from the day that I knw you your arguments r always the same.
*You will quote Quran the way you want and stick to your opinion despite given u clear n easy to understand proofs n references.

*You always use few muslims bad acts to judge entire muslims and u can't back ur claims with either quran or hadiths

* you want pple to accept your interpretations of bible verses even if contractions r highlighted but u can't do the same.

So what exactly r u trying to archive pls??
U r boring everyone here n even the non believers like u here on NL.

You can continue Nd go on and on to posting those quranic verses as you want but their historic context will always remain and those sincere individuals out there will always see the truth n it will click to them. U can carry on BS ur on NL

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Re: How To Understand Mathew 10:34 by jidxin(m): 1:15pm On Dec 11, 2016
aminusanti:
confused hypocrite! So u can understand when a verse is in it context??but when it comes to the Quran u turn your face?
Your explanation is what I call complete nonsense, u are busy contradicting yourself without even realizing it.. most of you Paulians r suffering from Cognitive dissonance.

So r u now trying to tell us that the God of OT is different from NT??
my broda do u even know d origin of ur quoran? re u kidding me u quote deutronomy dont u think even d quoran borrowed stories from d OT?
Re: How To Understand Mathew 10:34 by alBHAGDADI: 1:26pm On Dec 11, 2016
aminusanti:



why u didnt quote the next verse? undecided .. to understand the verse read from 9:1 to 9:6 its as clear as wine but this critic will still come up with verse much later, I will put the explanation below if u dissagree provide urs lets see. If u like u can use the strategy of saying is copy n paste and run away as usual.

If we read from start it states that there was a treaty, which the Pagans of Arab broke. Thus Allah gave them 4 months as 9:2 states in order to amend the treaty. Verse 9:4 states that the punishment prescribed in 9:5 is ONLY to those who broke the treaty and NOT to those who abided by the treaty. Therefore the context of 9:5 is of war with the pagan Arabs who broke the treaty yet refused to amend it in 4 months.

And the next verse after that says: read >

“And if anyone of the idolaters seeketh thy protection (O Muhammad), then protect him so that he may hear the Word of Allah, and afterward convey him to his place of safety. That is because they are a folk who know not. (PICKTHAL Translation, Quran 9:6)




what's wrong with that? The verse clearly states "let's not the believer take the disbelievers as Auliya (supporters, helpers, etc) instead of the believers"

mistranslated by PICKTHAL and other major translator

“In the verse you quoted, the word “Awliya” is used. It is a plural and its singular is “wali”. The correct translation of the word “”wali”” is not “friend” but it is someone who is very close and intimate. It is also used to mean “guardian, protector, patron, lord and master.”
Allah says that Allah alone is the Auliya (in a sense of a protector):
The likeness of those who take Auliyâ’ (protectors and helpers) other than Allâh is as the likeness of a spider, who builds (for itself) a house, but verily, the frailest (weakest) of houses is the spider’s house; if they but knew. (Al-’Ankabut 29:41)

Or have they taken (for worship) Auliyâ’ (guardians, supporters, helpers, protectors, etc.) besides Him? But Allâh, He Alone is the Walî (Protector, etc.). And it is He Who gives life to the dead, and He is Able to do all things. (Ash-Shura 42:9)

War time verse

War time verse

War time verse

War time verse
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Now, compare all these above verses with the Quran verse in the picture below and tell me if the Quran is not contradictory or deceitful.
Now point out the contradiction..
Again! arguing with u is a complete waste of time, from the day that I knw you your arguments r always the same.
*You will quote Quran the way you want and stick to your opinion despite given u clear n easy to understand proofs n references.

*You always use few muslims bad acts to judge entire muslims and u can't back ur claims with either quran or hadiths

* you want pple to accept your interpretations of bible verses even if contractions r highlighted but u can't do the same.

So what exactly r u trying to archive pls??
U r boring everyone here n even the non believers like u here on NL.

You can continue Nd go on and on to posting those quranic verses as you want but their historic context will always remain and those sincere individuals out there will always see the truth n it will click to them. U can carry on BS ur on NL
You haven't posted anything to show their historic context. Maybe that's why terrorists of today are those verses as instructions for ALL TIME.
Re: How To Understand Mathew 10:34 by alBHAGDADI: 1:31pm On Dec 11, 2016
yakamata:


kindly explain this
Deuteronomy 13:6 If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known, 7 gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), 8 do not yield to them orlisten to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. 9 You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. 10 Stone them to death, because they tried toturn you away from the Lord your God, whobrought you out of Egypt, out of the land ofslavery. 11 Then all Israel will hear and be afraid, and no one among you will do such an evil thing again.

As you can see, it was a law of Moses which he gave to the Israelites of old. It was like a constitution for the nation of ISRAEL.

It does not apply to non-israelites and Christians cos we are not Israelites by human birth.
Re: How To Understand Mathew 10:34 by uvalued(m): 1:39pm On Dec 11, 2016
alBHAGDADI:
Aminusanti is up to his old tricks of derailing a thread by posting irrelevant pictures of scriptures taken out of context. grin

That Exodus 22:20 is something you pulled out of context just as you always do concerning the verse the OP just explained. Now, let me explain this verse shortly. If you read Exodus from Chapter 20 down to Chapter 22, you will notice that Moses was given out a commandment to the Nation of ISRAEL only, which doesn't count for other nations. It was like their constitution.

God wanted to preserve the nation of ISRAEL and in order to do that, he had to ensure that they don't go after foreign gods which are actually Satan in disguise. Worshipping other gods would lead them astray from produces the main goal which is the Messiah. Now that they have produced the Messiah, such law that orders the killing of any ISRAELite that worships other god is no longer used. That's why we have gays, pagans and even Muslims in Israel today.

As for the Quran verse you showed in the picture, how come there are several verses that contradict that one?


“Kill the idolaters wherever you find them, and capture them, and blockade them, and watch for them at every lookout...” (Quran 9:5).

3:28 Don’t take unbelievers as friends and allies, unless it is for “fear of them,” i.e. deceptively for protection of oneself or of Islam

5:51“O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Whoso of you makes them his friends is one of them. Allah guides not the people of the evildoers.”

9:73
“O Prophet, struggle with the unbelievers and hypocrites, and be thou harsh with them; their refuge is Gehenna — an evil homecoming!”

9:123 “O believers, fight the unbelievers who are near to you; and let them find in you a harshness; and know that Allah is with the godfearing.”

48:29 “Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and those who are with him are hard against the unbelievers, merciful one to another.”

Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion is all for Allah"


Now, compare all these above verses with the Quran verse in the picture below and tell me if the Quran is not contradictory or deceitful.
noted
Re: How To Understand Mathew 10:34 by uvalued(m): 1:41pm On Dec 11, 2016
olutop:


Bible preaches violence according to you but xtians dnt kill in the name of Jesus while Quran preaches peace nd muslims kill in the name of Allah.....dere seems to be a 'problem somewhere', maybe how we both understand our God

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Re: How To Understand Mathew 10:34 by uvalued(m): 1:43pm On Dec 11, 2016
johnpaul1101:
Verily Verily I say unto u; A lot of Christian do know d truth behind this verse, they choose to misunderstand it in a bid to justify their violent idiosyncrasy and feel less guilty.

kindly explain bolded with a recent example
Re: How To Understand Mathew 10:34 by uvalued(m): 1:51pm On Dec 11, 2016
Colynho3d:

They created this forum 'nairaland' in a bid to decimate Christianity and initiate as many as possible into ATHEISM and other available religion.
When a thread is created in other religion, it suffers less or no attack, but check what happens when a thread is created on Christianity or Christ, then check the intensity of attacks it receives within seconds.
You'll see the new atheist "recruts" shouting upandan: "religion is Sam, god doesn't exist, what if I tell you heaven doesn't exist" Etc
Even some recent nairaland members have joined the lot.
Since God "doesn't" exist like you claim, why not leave the thread alone. I don't waste my time opening any topic that wouldn't effect my life positively.
Whether you praise Him or not, He is still God. And may God bless you.

with there frenzy hatred for Christ it just shows that thier consciences is highly spiked...
Re: How To Understand Mathew 10:34 by aminusanti(m): 1:52pm On Dec 11, 2016
jidxin:
my broda do u even know d origin of ur quoran?
No. Tell us
re u kidding me
No. I am not
u quote deutronomy dont u think even d quoran borrowed stories from d OT?
It seems u r confused undecided . So whats ur point?
You are seeing it as borrowed due to ignorance but the similarities btw the bible and the Quran is not down to borrowing or copying, but rather it is down to both books having the same author-source, the one who revealed and was involved in the incidents during the times of bible, is the same one who revealed and was involved during the time of the Quran and the prophet Mohammad(pbuh)

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Re: How To Understand Mathew 10:34 by jidxin(m): 1:57pm On Dec 11, 2016
aminusanti:

No. Tell us

No. I am not

It seems u r confused undecided . So whats ur point?
You are seeing it as borrowed due to ignorance but the similarities btw the bible and the Quran is not down to borrowing or copying, but rather it is down to both books having the same author-source, the one who revealed and was involved in the incidents during the times of bible, is the same one who revealed and was involved during the time of the Quran and the prophet Mohammad(pbuh)
pls I ve a question for you. .. who wrote d quoran
Re: How To Understand Mathew 10:34 by Julivas(m): 2:03pm On Dec 11, 2016
Nice one op, more anointing
Re: How To Understand Mathew 10:34 by aminusanti(m): 2:11pm On Dec 11, 2016
jidxin:
pls I ve a question for you. .. who wrote d quoran
Prophet Mohammad (PBUH). He memorized it when Allah revealed verses upon him..these verses were memorized and written down by literate muslims

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Re: How To Understand Mathew 10:34 by jidxin(m): 2:15pm On Dec 11, 2016
aminusanti:

Prophet Mohammad (PBUH)
do u ever know dat muhammad grew up wit a christian monk?
Re: How To Understand Mathew 10:34 by aminusanti(m): 2:16pm On Dec 11, 2016
alBHAGDADI:
You haven't posted anything to show their historic context. Maybe that's why terrorists of today are those verses as instructions for ALL TIME.
If truly u r serious about your wrong claims, lets take those quranic verses one by one and lets see
Go ahead pick one and detail it for us to prove your claims and I will provide my explanation so we can compare and see.
Go ahead..waitin

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Re: How To Understand Mathew 10:34 by Goldenprinz(m): 2:18pm On Dec 11, 2016
hemartins:


One day, you will preach the gospel.
Yes a big amen
Re: How To Understand Mathew 10:34 by alBHAGDADI: 2:26pm On Dec 11, 2016
aminusanti:

If truly u r serious about your wrong claims, lets take those quranic verses one by one and lets see
Go ahead pick one and detail it for us to prove your claims and I will provide my explanation so we can compare and see.
Go ahead..waitin
Why not create a separate thread for that and mention me.
Re: How To Understand Mathew 10:34 by aminusanti(m): 2:27pm On Dec 11, 2016
jidxin:
do u ever know dat muhammad grew up wit a christian monk?
Proof for the phrase highlighted pls

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Re: How To Understand Mathew 10:34 by alBHAGDADI: 2:27pm On Dec 11, 2016
aminusanti:

Prophet Mohammad (PBUH)
But some of you claim it fell from heaven.

Another quarters say Mohammad was an illiterate. How come he was able to write the Quran? grin
Re: How To Understand Mathew 10:34 by aminusanti(m): 2:29pm On Dec 11, 2016
alBHAGDADI:
Why not create a separate thread for that and mention me.
ok
Re: How To Understand Mathew 10:34 by alBHAGDADI: 2:34pm On Dec 11, 2016
aminusanti:

No. Tell us

No. I am not

It seems u r confused undecided . So whats ur point?
You are seeing it as borrowed due to ignorance but the similarities btw the bible and the Quran is not down to borrowing or copying, but rather it is down to both books having the same author-source, the one who revealed and was involved in the incidents during the times of bible, is the same one who revealed and was involved during the time of the Quran and the prophet Mohammad(pbuh)
Bloody lie.

Both books do not have the same source. The Bible came from Yahweh, while the Quran came from Allah. Allah is not the Yahweh of the Bible. If Muslims believe so, then they should write the name Yahweh in every mosque of theirs.

Allah is Satan, that is why the Quran opposes everything the Bible stands for e.g the Quran opposes Christ being God's son, it claims that Christ didn't get killed nor crucified. If Christ didn't get crucified, it simply means that he didn't conquer death by resurrecting like he promised. This means the Quran calls Christ a liar.

Can you now see how much of an Antichrist the Quran and Islam are?
Re: How To Understand Mathew 10:34 by aminusanti(m): 3:16pm On Dec 11, 2016
alBHAGDADI:
Bloody lie.

Both books do not have the same source. The Bible came from Yahweh, while the Quran came from Allah. Allah is not the Yahweh of the Bible. If Muslims believe so, then they should write the name Yahweh in every mosque of theirs.

Allah is Satan, that is why the Quran opposes everything the Bible stands for e.g the Quran opposes Christ being God's son, it claims that Christ didn't get killed nor crucified. If Christ didn't get crucified, it simply means that he didn't conquer death by resurrecting like he promised. This means the Quran calls Christ a liar.

Can you now see how much of an Antichrist the Quran and Islam are?
most of ur arguements r repeated..do u think i have time for all that..plss

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Re: How To Understand Mathew 10:34 by aminusanti(m): 3:35pm On Dec 11, 2016
alBHAGDADI:
But some of you claim it fell from heaven.

Any proof for this ur false claim?


Another quarters say Mohammad was an illiterate. How come he was able to write the Quran? grin
tru d help of litrate muslims after he memorized all the verses revealed to him from Allah tru Angel jibril

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