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Re: "As In Gambia, As In RCCG?" By Pastor Ebun Olu-Adegboruwa. by seguno2: 5:02pm On Jan 09, 2017
Suddenly Yahaya Jammeh is a popular man in our country for all the wrong reasons.
Re: "As In Gambia, As In RCCG?" By Pastor Ebun Olu-Adegboruwa. by rhektor(m): 5:02pm On Jan 09, 2017
hahn:


An NGO that builds school that are the most expensive in the country to afford? undecided

Interesting, this your comment shows that you might not have a good understanding of the tax law. If an NGO have a business the business pay tax but the NGO itself would not pay tax do you get?

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Re: "As In Gambia, As In RCCG?" By Pastor Ebun Olu-Adegboruwa. by millhouse: 5:04pm On Jan 09, 2017
dammytosh:


Which Government ?

Is the Adegoruwa guy not a Redeem Pastor ?

Was the law not signed by Jonathan ?

Were they not all in support of Jonathan's clueless leadership and was he drunk when he signed ?
What a waste of sp___m
Re: "As In Gambia, As In RCCG?" By Pastor Ebun Olu-Adegboruwa. by hahn(m): 5:04pm On Jan 09, 2017
rhektor:


Interesting, this your comment shows that you might not have a good understanding of the tax law. If an NGO have a business the business pay tax but the NGO itself would not pay tax do you get?

Well, that depends on the "source" of the capital for the "business".

You and I know that the money used to build church schools are gotten from offerings, tithes and donations. Right?

Is it good to now build the said schools and then charge millions for people to attend them?

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Re: "As In Gambia, As In RCCG?" By Pastor Ebun Olu-Adegboruwa. by olash: 5:06pm On Jan 09, 2017
dammytosh:


Which Government ?

Is the Adegoruwa guy not a Redeem Pastor ?

Was the law not signed by Jonathan ?

Were they not all in support of Jonathan's clueless leadership and was he drunk when he signed ?

U don't need to respond to this kind of people. They don't read neither they do research. All they come here to do is to blame Buhari with bais mind. I'm not Buhari supporter but I can't be so stupid to blame him for this.

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Re: "As In Gambia, As In RCCG?" By Pastor Ebun Olu-Adegboruwa. by Livingstoner01: 5:06pm On Jan 09, 2017
.....How this take concern Ebun or Ebu Ade......mo ro wipe Ebun nwa Epe lati inu iwe Ekun Jeremiah

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Re: "As In Gambia, As In RCCG?" By Pastor Ebun Olu-Adegboruwa. by Doyin2(m): 5:07pm On Jan 09, 2017
Dhugal:

Jonathan did not sign "the law",the codes are regulations made by the FRC,within the ambits of their enabling law.
All these naira land children sef

You are even worse than the nairaland children sef!

Just read over your trash again.
Re: "As In Gambia, As In RCCG?" By Pastor Ebun Olu-Adegboruwa. by abike12(f): 5:07pm On Jan 09, 2017
You have time to be combing through the constitution of a church but have you held your political leaders accountable?

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Re: "As In Gambia, As In RCCG?" By Pastor Ebun Olu-Adegboruwa. by rhektor(m): 5:08pm On Jan 09, 2017
hahn:


Well, that depends on the "source" of the capital for the "business".

You and I know that the money used to build church schools are gotten from offerings, tithes and donations. Right?

Is it good to now build the said schools and then charge millions for people to attend them?

Yes, because lecturers will be paid and the school must be maintained and put in good shape, also research resources are not cheap get that also?
Re: "As In Gambia, As In RCCG?" By Pastor Ebun Olu-Adegboruwa. by HomeOfMe(f): 5:08pm On Jan 09, 2017
If Christians want to remain in Nigeria and practice their fairh peacefully,now is the time to fight for their right or it would be too late.
Re: "As In Gambia, As In RCCG?" By Pastor Ebun Olu-Adegboruwa. by rhektor(m): 5:08pm On Jan 09, 2017
Livingstoner01:
.....How this take concern Ebun or Ebu Ade......mo ro wipe Ebun nwa Epe lati inu iwe Ekun Jeremiah

He's just another attention seeker just ignore him
Re: "As In Gambia, As In RCCG?" By Pastor Ebun Olu-Adegboruwa. by chynie: 5:09pm On Jan 09, 2017
proeast:
So when is Father Mbaka stepping down

guy u need help grin

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Re: "As In Gambia, As In RCCG?" By Pastor Ebun Olu-Adegboruwa. by hahn(m): 5:09pm On Jan 09, 2017
rhektor:


Yes, because lecturers will be paid and the school must be maintained and put in good shape, also research resources are not cheap get that also?

That is not the point. The money was gotten from an NGO and used as capital for a "profitable" business venture

Did you miss this thread?

Executive Secretary/Chief Executive Officer of the FRC, Jim Obazee, at the weekend said that though only 89 out of the 23, 216 registered churches in the country have complied till date with regulations, the council would be unrelenting till the right thing is done.

“In keeping other peoples’ money, you have to prepare account. That is why churches fought me so badly, took me to court as a person and then my office too. Mosques and orthodox churches freely complied, but those Pentecostal churches called me to ask questions. They said: ‘This church is church of God and we are accountable to God.’ And I told them: ‘Very good, so you must take this church to heaven, you can’t operate it here’. When public funds are involved, government needs to ensure proper accountability.”

The CEO explained: “Religious organisations are ordinarily set up as ‘not-for-profit’ and they remain institutions of public character. The challenge, however, is a trend where churches and mosques start dabbling into non-charity ventures like schools, hospitals and so on.
“When you set up a church, your motive is to ensure that people are well focused to go to heaven. Then the money in the church should be targeted at ensuring that people are helped to do that. If you want to set up a school, then it should be free for all your members’ children. If you charge any money, then you are in the same league with other schools outside that are paying taxes to the government.

“If you set up schools, hospitals and the likes under a church, there is a high likelihood that you will be engaging in non-charitable activities within charity. If you are doing that, then what stops Dangote from setting up a mosque and having all his cements, rice and sugar under it? That is actually what some churches and mosques are doing.

https://www.nairaland.com/3563364/nigerian-churches-financial-reporting-council

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Re: "As In Gambia, As In RCCG?" By Pastor Ebun Olu-Adegboruwa. by Nobody: 5:10pm On Jan 09, 2017
On point
Re: "As In Gambia, As In RCCG?" By Pastor Ebun Olu-Adegboruwa. by 4reala(m): 5:12pm On Jan 09, 2017
Why do some pple like taaking panadol on top of other pple headache. Hmmm! SMh
Re: "As In Gambia, As In RCCG?" By Pastor Ebun Olu-Adegboruwa. by Nobody: 5:12pm On Jan 09, 2017
rhektor:


Yes, because lecturers will be paid and the school must be maintained and put in good shape, also research resources are not cheap get that also?

Then why can't that money be channeled to scholarships for already pre-existing schools?

Plus, if they contribute to these existing schools, especially in part of infrastructures likes classrooms/lecturer rooms,, hostels and the rest, won't that go a long way in improving our educational system?

What's the point of constructing these schools that the masses' kids cannot afford?

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Re: "As In Gambia, As In RCCG?" By Pastor Ebun Olu-Adegboruwa. by shadrach77: 5:16pm On Jan 09, 2017
embarassed. Booked

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Re: "As In Gambia, As In RCCG?" By Pastor Ebun Olu-Adegboruwa. by rhektor(m): 5:17pm On Jan 09, 2017
hahn:


That is not the point. The money was gotten from an NGO and used as capital for a "profitable" business venture

Did you miss this thread?



https://www.nairaland.com/3563364/nigerian-churches-financial-reporting-council

Not sì quick to change the topic here man. You asked a question and I answered you but you want to hide under a new thread? No man.
Like I said before, if the church as an NGO has a school or any other business the business must pay tax and not the church. Don't you know the basic accounting concept "entity /entityship" a business is different from the owner no matter the legal form.

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Re: "As In Gambia, As In RCCG?" By Pastor Ebun Olu-Adegboruwa. by rhektor(m): 5:19pm On Jan 09, 2017
Vorpal:


Then why can't that money be channeled to scholarships for already pre-existing schools?

Plus, if they contribute to these existing schools, especially in part of infrastructures likes classrooms/lecturer rooms,, hostels and the rest, won't that go a long way in improving our educational system?

What's the point of constructing these schools that the masses' kids cannot afford?

If you are in the system you'll know that there are scorlaship programs in those schools but your ignorance or fixed mindset against the church won't let you see the obvious
Re: "As In Gambia, As In RCCG?" By Pastor Ebun Olu-Adegboruwa. by Nobody: 5:21pm On Jan 09, 2017
rhektor:


If you are in the system you'll know that there are scorlaship programs in those schools but your ignorance or fixed mindset against the church won't let you see the obvious

Avail us the facts and stats of the scholarship.

Rid of us of our perceived ignorance.

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Re: "As In Gambia, As In RCCG?" By Pastor Ebun Olu-Adegboruwa. by freshboi88: 5:22pm On Jan 09, 2017
wellmax:

Oga show me where he said he is GO of the world.
What I read was something like "at least they can't stop me from being GO in other parts of the world".
The church's memo also said he remain the chief missionary and spiritual head of the church.
Nobody said GO of RCCG worldwide, cos that doesn't exit.

He said the new GO is going to be the national GO, while he would be the GO worldwide...... It's evrywere..... Y r u lying, how can u say ur d spiritual head of the church when u have relinquished ur position as the GO... The spiritual head is meant to be d general overseer

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Re: "As In Gambia, As In RCCG?" By Pastor Ebun Olu-Adegboruwa. by rhektor(m): 5:23pm On Jan 09, 2017
Vorpal:


Avail us the facts and stats of the scholarship.

Rid of us of our perceived ignorance.

Just like the Jews asked for sign and the Greek looked for wisdom but never found it I am not a school teacher so if you need learning go to school nairaland is not a classroom
Re: "As In Gambia, As In RCCG?" By Pastor Ebun Olu-Adegboruwa. by Nobody: 5:25pm On Jan 09, 2017
rhektor:


Just like the Jews asked for sign and the Greek looked for wisdom but never found it I am not a school teacher so if you need learning go to school nairaland is not a classroom

Smh....

I pity you, am a Christian tho but i am certainly not blind.

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Re: "As In Gambia, As In RCCG?" By Pastor Ebun Olu-Adegboruwa. by seguno2: 5:32pm On Jan 09, 2017
Cire80:
What business does Buhari, a Muslim have with leadership of a Christian Church abeg? These people are going to far

Is the law also applicable to mosques and Muslim organisations or not?
No wonder we have an illiterate as our president.
Re: "As In Gambia, As In RCCG?" By Pastor Ebun Olu-Adegboruwa. by harrybarn: 5:33pm On Jan 09, 2017
Guys pls be careful with ur words. If you don't know anything about the original matter or state of this issue, i'ld kindly advice you not to unnecesseralily attract Gods judgement upon yourself. This is Kingdom matter and it must not satisfy your "carnal" curiosity.
Re: "As In Gambia, As In RCCG?" By Pastor Ebun Olu-Adegboruwa. by Awoo88: 5:36pm On Jan 09, 2017
freshboi88:
A man says he is handing over and yet says he is d G.O of the world, pls is Nigeria not part of the world, when he was d G. O did he have a G.O of the world, when he was d G. O of Nigeria??, how can u say u have handed over and yet still claim to be spiritual father......

If u r truly sincere u want to hand over y not hand over completely and let the new man take over completely, all I see is insincerity from d part of Adeboye.

Y is he blaming Buhari as if the law was passed yesterday and signed by Buhari yesterday, y is he deceiving his congregation to make Buhari and Osinbajo look like the enemies here??, what does he mean by FG stop meddling in church affairs??.... So is the church only allowed to meddle in politics and govt affair and not the other way round also??.....

Adeboye resign sincerely and dnt seat tight like Yahya Jammeh of Gambia
I think Adeboye is being smart by half. In deeper life, there is a pastor in charge of Nigeria and I think there is also a pastor in RCCG that is officially in charge of Nigeria church. the man no won leave that place

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Re: "As In Gambia, As In RCCG?" By Pastor Ebun Olu-Adegboruwa. by kickhard: 5:39pm On Jan 09, 2017
When the catholic church and other earlier churches were preaching moderate lifestyle irrespective of your financial and intellectual status, as one of the signs of humility (including an oath to poverty for their priests, which was the hallmark of the early christian teachings: many of the missionaries that brought christianity to africa died poor materially but rich in evangelical feats), the 'passion driven' today's preachers insisted the opposite was the way. Excessive show of material wealth took over the evangelical space and gave rise to the 'anti-christian FRC law.

THE DANGER AHEAD

Because of the wrong application of freely-given spiritual gifts by the ignorant 'know-it-all christians', Ecclesiastical Authority has now been technically surrendered to secular government comprising majorly atheists and islamic religion followers. If this trend is allowed to stay, where spiritual gifts are regulated by secular law, then the fate of christians in the next 10 years or more in Nigeria will be comparable to that of the early christians, which will drive many to islam as been speculated in many quarters. The implementation of the FRC law is not a redeem church problem as similar or worse controversy awaits other churches whenever it's time to change their leadership, it should rather be a source of concern to all true followers of christ that have the minutest form of vision. CHRISTIANS ARISE AND DEFEND YOUR FAITH, FOR THE SAKE OF THE NEXT GENERATION

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Re: "As In Gambia, As In RCCG?" By Pastor Ebun Olu-Adegboruwa. by kateskitty(f): 5:43pm On Jan 09, 2017
proeast:
So when is Father Mbaka stepping down
Hey Father Mbaka is not the head of the Catholic church, his just a priest.
Don't bring irrelevant issues up

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Re: "As In Gambia, As In RCCG?" By Pastor Ebun Olu-Adegboruwa. by kateskitty(f): 5:45pm On Jan 09, 2017
freshboi88:
A man says he is handing over and yet says he is d G.O of the world, pls is Nigeria not part of the world, when he was d G. O did he have a G.O of the world, when he was d G. O of Nigeria??, how can u say u have handed over and yet still claim to be spiritual father......

If u r truly sincere u want to hand over y not hand over completely and let the new man take over completely, all I see is insincerity from d part of Adeboye.

Y is he blaming Buhari as if the law was passed yesterday and signed by Buhari yesterday, y is he deceiving his congregation to make Buhari and Osinbajo look like the enemies here??, what does he mean by FG stop meddling in church affairs??.... So is the church only allowed to meddle in politics and govt affair and not the other way round also??.....

Adeboye resign sincerely and dnt seat tight like Yahya Jammeh of Gambia
That's why I love the Catholic church, you can't see this kind of behaviour there.

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Re: "As In Gambia, As In RCCG?" By Pastor Ebun Olu-Adegboruwa. by wellmax(m): 5:53pm On Jan 09, 2017
freshboi88:


He said the new GO is going to be the national GO, while he would be the GO worldwide...... It's evrywere..... Y r u lying, how can u say ur d spiritual head of the church when u have relinquished ur position as the GO... The spiritual head is meant to be d general overseer

Oga show me proof not hear-say. The memo sent from the church is available everywhere.
Re: "As In Gambia, As In RCCG?" By Pastor Ebun Olu-Adegboruwa. by segunednut: 5:54pm On Jan 09, 2017
Re: "As In Gambia, As In RCCG?" By Pastor Ebun Olu-Adegboruwa. by freshboi88: 5:55pm On Jan 09, 2017
kateskitty:

That's why I love the Catholic church, you can't see this kind of behaviour there.

Remember that the previous Pope bfre this present one didn't die, he stepped down, he didn't say he is d pope of the world , y d new one is d pope of Rome.... Rubbish!!!..... Neither did he say he is d spiritual leader??.....how can u relinquish ur position as d G.O and still call urself d spiritual leader of the church isn't that contracditory??

I just realized that the Catholic Church accepted this law, they have no problem with it, togeda with other orthodox churches but the Pentecostal churches were d ones dragging the FG to court over the law now that they have lost, they want to stir up hate against the govt, doesn't the bible teach about obeying constituted authority??

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