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Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by petrov10: 5:40pm On Jan 22, 2017
Corrinthians:
Are you an Osu? Why are you angry? grin
troll
Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by ITbomb(m): 5:45pm On Jan 22, 2017
Funnicator:


So you mean to say they're cowards?

But that excuse is not enough, if ecowas had felt their military strength wouldn't suffice, what's the role of AU?

Backup.

Cc fifthcolumnist
Not cowards, everything was wrong.
Like the army chief did say, it would have been a "silly" war.
Fighting for the wrong reasons against an enemy that is way stronger

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Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by Nobody: 5:46pm On Jan 22, 2017
Funnicator:



It's not about ecowas doing nothing.

But why did it fail in teaming up with AU military strength and deposing the bastard IBB.



This makes no sense.

Invading Nigeria is nearly impossible for an African army. You'll need a very large army to even conceptualize the idea, except you have a really badass air force.

And then, there's the question of funding.
Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by melvinjames: 6:01pm On Jan 22, 2017
Corrinthians:
You know what hurts the Osus the most about the Gambia episode? It is the fact that it didnt end up in war and the cawardly president quietly left. They were looking forward to seeing pictuures of dead nigerian soldiers so they can celebrate and insult the president. Thank God their hopes were dashed.

Trust me, the bastards would have supported Jameh. grin
Omenka? Is that you?

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Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by Nobody: 6:02pm On Jan 22, 2017
ITbomb:

Not cowards, everything was wrong.
Like the army chief did say, it would have been a "silly" war.
Fighting for the wrong reasons against an enemy that is way stronger


Why didn't ecowas do to Nigeria what they did to the Gambia after IBB refused to concede defeat to abiola undecided
Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by Nobody: 6:02pm On Jan 22, 2017
petrov10:
troll

A dirty one.
Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by Nobody: 6:05pm On Jan 22, 2017
Fifthcolumnist:


Invading Nigeria is nearly impossible for an African army. You'll need a very large army to even conceptualize the idea, except you have a really badass air force.

And then, there's the question of funding.

SMH.
In that case we'd remain in the hands of whatever dictator that refuses to step down simply because no organization can invade us.

I thought Yoruba's threatened GEJ he would be Ben Gbagbo 'd should he refuse to concede defeat. cheesy

Where is bolustic and his trolls friends.
Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by Nobody: 6:10pm On Jan 22, 2017
Funnicator:


SMH.
In that case we'd remain in the hands of whatever dictator that refuses to step down simply because no organization can invade us.

I thought Yoruba's threatened GEJ he would be Ben Gbagbo 'd should he refuse to concede defeat. cheesy

Where is bolustic and his trolls friends.

If GEJ had seized power, the worse case scenario would be a massive civil insurrection in the North, and maybe a military take over. No African Nation would start a war of attrition with Nigeria.

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Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by Nobody: 6:13pm On Jan 22, 2017
Fifthcolumnist:


If GEJ had seized power, the worse case scenario would be a massive civil insurrection in the North, and maybe a military take over. No African Nation would start a war of attrition with Nigeria.

Such a big shame. A replay of the events of 1960s then.

Thank God he conceded defeat.
Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by Diplomaticbeing(m): 6:14pm On Jan 22, 2017
They were two different cases. The difference between the two cases was that the Gambia electoral umpire declared a winner in the race - even worse still Yahya Jammeh accepted defeat, even though he later rescinded his pronouncement. However, in the case of IBB and Nigeria, the electoral umpire didn't declare the final result - no body was announced as a winner, so Abiola was merely notionally the winner of that race but without any legal/constitutional backing.

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Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by Nobody: 6:16pm On Jan 22, 2017
Diplomaticbeing:
They were two different cases. I'm coming!

Explain yourself.
Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by Nobody: 6:25pm On Jan 22, 2017
Funnicator:


Such a big shame. A replay of the events of 1960s then.

Thank God he conceded defeat.

Exactly, that's why despite his shortcomings in leadership, conceding defeat without strife has forever impressed a rare legacy to be emulated by all and sundry.
Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by Nobody: 6:30pm On Jan 22, 2017
Fifthcolumnist:


Exactly, that's why despite his shortcomings in leadership, conceding defeat without strife has forever impressed a rare legacy to be emulated by all and sundry.

Little wonder UN appointed him Peace ambassador cheesy

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Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by Nobody: 6:31pm On Jan 22, 2017
Diplomaticbeing:
They were two different cases. The difference between the two cases was that the Gambia electoral umpire declared a winner in the race - even worse still Yahya Jammeh accepted defeat, even though he later rescinded his pronouncement. However, in the case of IBB and Nigeria, the electoral umpire didn't declare the final result - no body was announced as a winner, so Abiola was merely notionally the winner of that race but without any legal/constitutional backing.

Can you wisely provide proof of your talks that Abiola wasn't declared winner of the said elections?
Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by Nobody: 6:32pm On Jan 22, 2017
Diplomaticbeing:
They were two different cases. The difference between the two cases was that the Gambia electoral umpire declared a winner in the race - even worst still Yahya Jammeh accepted defeat, even though he later rescinded his pronouncement. However, in the case of IBB and Nigeria, the electoral umpire didn't declare the final result - no body was announced as a winner, so Abiola was merely notionally the winner of that race but without any legal/constitutional backing.

He already had 56% of the valid votes from 2/3 of the states so technically he had won the elections. In all journals, internationally and locally he is recognised as winner of the '93 elections. Jammeh's case is not different. He just didn't get away with the old trick.
Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by Diplomaticbeing(m): 6:43pm On Jan 22, 2017
Fifthcolumnist:


He already had 56% of the valid votes from 2/3 of the states so technically he had won the elections. In all journals, internationally and locally he is recognised as leader of the '93 elections. Jammeh's case is not different. He just didn't get away with the old trick.

Kindly study the constitution pre-95 constitutional national conference.

Meanwhile, even as it stands today, a presidential candidate winning majority votes and at least 25 percent of votes casted in 2/3 of the Nigerian states cannot legally/constitutionally guarantee such a candidate the presidential seat until the sane and sound head of the electoral umpire declare such a candidate winner.

The masses would always have their say while the politicians have their way.
Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by Nobody: 6:57pm On Jan 22, 2017
Diplomaticbeing:


Kindly study the constitution pre-95 constituent national conference.

Meanwhile, even as it stands today, a presidential candidate winning majority votes and at least 25 percent of votes casted in 2/3 of the Nigerian states cannot legally/constitutionally guarantee such a candidate the presidential seat until the sane and sound head of the electoral umpire declare such a candidate winner.

The masses would always have their say while the politicians have their way.


You're being economical with the truth bro. He wasn't declared winner by the NEC chairman but he was apparently the winner from collated votes since there was no way his opponent could have caught with him. The annulment was completely illogical and stupid and everybody agreed with that. I don't see how that's different from Jammeh's case.

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Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by Diplomaticbeing(m): 7:00pm On Jan 22, 2017
Fifthcolumnist:


You're being economical with the truth bro. He wasn't declared winner by the NEC chairman but he was apparently the winner from collated votes since there was no way his opponent could have caught with him. The annulment was completely illogical and stupid and everybody agreed with that. I don't see how that's different from Jammeh's case.

Until prejudice begin to win cases in the law court, I say bye to this needless dialogue.
Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by Nobody: 7:06pm On Jan 22, 2017
Diplomaticbeing:


Until prejudice begin to win cases in the law court, I say by to this needless dialogue.

If condemning the annulment of arguably the fairest elections in our nations history is prejudice in your sight, then you're right bro: this convo is needless.

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Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by khadaffi(m): 9:26pm On Jan 22, 2017
Fifthcolumnist:


As far as you know? Then you are uninformed.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigerian_presidential_election,_1993

Forget about what is written in wikipedia. Humphrey Nwosu did not announce the winner before it was annulled. You can ask any elderly person around you. The elections were still being counted and so far MKO was leading before the annulment. 1993 is just like yesterday to me because I was even among those that protested.
Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by khadaffi(m): 9:28pm On Jan 22, 2017
Funnicator:


How did he emerge victorious and winner undecided

Even international bodies recognised he was the winner in the much reputed free and fair election in our national history.

Did you witness the events in 1993 or you were told?
Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by khadaffi(m): 9:28pm On Jan 22, 2017
Funnicator:


How did he emerge victorious and winner undecided

Even international bodies recognised he was the winner in the much reputed free and fair election in our national history.

Did you witness the events in 1993 or you were told? I'm asking because I witnessed it.
Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by Nobody: 9:57pm On Jan 22, 2017
khadaffi:


Did you witness the events in 1993 or you were told? I'm asking because I witnessed it.
I resemble small boy for your eye?
Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by khadaffi(m): 6:04am On Jan 23, 2017
Funnicator:

I resemble small boy for your eye?

Pls keep quiet there. If you witnessed it, you would have known they were still collating the result when it was annulled. There was no time Humphrey Nwosu declared MKO as the winner. We used the open ballot system then, so it was easy for people to know the winner even without the chairman declaring. Go and ask your elders to explain it to properly to you and stop forming what you are not.
Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by Brooklynsouth(f): 6:53am On Jan 23, 2017
Corrinthians:
You know what hurts the Osus the most about the Gambia episode? It is the fact that it didnt end up in war and the cawardly president quietly left. They were looking forward to seeing pictuures of dead nigerian soldiers so they can celebrate and insult the president. Thank God their hopes were dashed.

Trust me, the bastards would have supported Jameh. grin
can a superior Yoruba Muslim call this lesser afonja with 30 cm long tribal marks to order ,he seems abnormal or is his tribal marks scratching him?
Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by Nobody: 7:02am On Jan 23, 2017
Funnicator:
Can people with international relations knowledge educate me here ?

For the past few days the media have been awash with the second after second events in the Gambia, about the political upheaval ongoing in the west African country after President Jammeh refused to step down following his loss at presidential polls.

Way back in 90's, IBB's candidate lost presidential elections to Abiola and subsequently, IBB had the young man jailed and denied him his legitimate position as POFRN. ECOWAS did shiiit. Not even a single tank assemble near our borders. Why the unequal treatment?

Is ECOWAS and AU biased?

The simple answer is...those that control the world and the global resources decide whom to remove and whom to stay. Jonathan deep in his mind wanted to reject Buhari's supposed victory but he knew those that control the world wanted him out like they wanted Gbagbo and Jammeh out, to install people who will do their bidding. Save this post...few yrs from now, Gambia economy will be worse than Zimbabwe. That's how after Attah of Ghana died whom under is tenure Ghana economy was almost like western countries, they installed a Fulani man, then Ghana economy nose-dived into recession and has never recovered! Buhari is no different... another Fulani man. And coincidentally Barrow, the newly elected president of Gambia is also a Fulani man!
Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by Noneroone(m): 7:06am On Jan 23, 2017
Funnicator:
Can people with international relations knowledge educate me here ?

For the past few days the media have been awash with the second after second events in the Gambia, about the political upheaval ongoing in the west African country after President Jammeh refused to step down following his loss at presidential polls.

Way back in 90's, IBB's candidate lost presidential elections to Abiola and subsequently, IBB had the young man jailed and denied him his legitimate position as POFRN. ECOWAS did shiiit. Not even a single tank assemble near our borders. Why the unequal treatment?

Is ECOWAS and AU biased?
abiola was not declared winner in the election. So technically there was no winner. If he had been declared winner IBb would have no legitimacy to hold on. Also quattara was declared winner hence gbagbo was ousted.
Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by AZeD1(m): 8:33am On Jan 23, 2017
Funnicator:



Why didn't ecowas do to Nigeria what they did to the Gambia after IBB refused to concede defeat to abiola undecided
1) IBB did not contest so there's no way he could have conceded.
2) In 1993, there was no AU.
3) After the annulment, IBB stepped aside.
4) Nigeria is Ecowas .
Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by Nobody: 8:53am On Jan 23, 2017
AZeD1:

1) IBB did not contest so there's no way he could have conceded.
2) In 1993, there was no AU.
3) After the annulment, IBB stepped aside.
4) Nigeria is Ecowas .

1: he may have not, but he couldn't have annulled an election to be free and fair even if he never contested.

3: yes he stepped aside, handing over to a stooge who never contested for election. Denying the true winner his right.
4: if Nigeria is ecowas then it proves my assertion that it is a shiitty and weak organization.

2: no au in 93?

Scroll down and see this pic

Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by Nobody: 8:56am On Jan 23, 2017
Noneroone:
abiola was not declared winner in the election. So technically there was no winner. If he had been declared winner IBb would have no legitimacy to hold on. Also quattara was declared winner hence gbagbo was ousted.

SMH. I guess since buhari was initially leading Jonathan in the election announcement and orubebe successfully disrupted jega from eventually announcing buhari winner, if it happened that way buhari would therefore not be winner and goodluck could fix another election. Right?
Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by Nobody: 8:57am On Jan 23, 2017
khadaffi:


[s]Pls keep quiet there. If you witnessed it, you would have known they were still collating the result when it was annulled. There was no time Humphrey Nwosu declared MKO as the winner. We used the open ballot system then, so it was easy for people to know the winner even without the chairman declaring. Go and ask your elders to explain it to properly to you and stop forming what you are not.
[/s]

Stop pouring saliva all over the place.
Re: Why ECOWAS Silence After IBB Truncated Abiola Presidency? by Nobody: 9:00am On Jan 23, 2017
Clinton9000:


The simple answer is...those that control the world and the global resources decide whom to remove and whom to stay. Jonathan deep in his mind wanted to reject Buhari's supposed victory but he knew those that control the world wanted him out like they wanted Gbagbo and Jammeh out, to install people who will do their bidding. Save this post...few yrs from now, Gambia economy will be worse than Zimbabwe. That's how after Attah of Ghana died whom under is tenure Ghana economy was almost like western countries, they installed a Fulani man, then Ghana economy nose-dived into recession and has never recovered! Buhari is no different... another Fulani man. And coincidentally Barrow, the newly elected president of Gambia is also a Fulani man!

It appears fulanis make wonderful stooges. Since time of balewa.

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