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Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by fratermathy(m): 5:33pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
iSlayer2: I would very much want to see one where URHOBO-ISOKO people participated. Many of these people you see here are Igbos or Igbo halflings. In any case, let us even assume that they are Rivers and Akwa Ibom people as the videos portends, does that change the facts of the matter and the issues I have raised? 1 Like |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by Ngozi123(f): 5:34pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
ManMountain: Are you denying that IPOB has members from the SS non-Igbo tribes? What about the Lower Niger Congress? 10 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by ManMountain(m): 5:35pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
Ngozi123: Fight for your own referendum and leave those that have not clearly demand one to navigate their own course. 3 Likes |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by Amarabae(f): 5:35pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
ManMountain:you guys amaze me, so you are saying that SW voted against GEJ because he marginalised you and he did not play a trbal hatred type of politics? you guys hated him because he was close to Igbos, so you guys went for buhari the 95 vs 5% man? is that not hypocrisy? 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by ManMountain(m): 5:37pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
Ngozi123: Until I start to see the tempo of such agitations in SS non-Igbo tribes, then we can come to a reasonable conclusion that they are with you in your agitation. So far, IPOB is an Igbo agenda. Simple and short. |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by fratermathy(m): 5:37pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
Ngozi123: We don't need an Igbo sponsored referendum to tell us whether or not we want Nigeria or our own nation. If we needed a new nation, we would be on the front lines for that. We are not voiceless. Just agitate for your Biafra and constrain it to the Igboid groups. Asking Urhobos to join means asking Edos to join. Asking Itsekiris to join means asking Yorubas to join. You can't have it any other way. You cannot bring a referendum out of the blues when we have not expressed interest to leave the country or join Biafra. If there are dissenting halfling Urhobos, they are very much free to migrate to the newly independent Biafra and make a life there. After all, Onitsha is not very far from Warri. 3 Likes |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by Nobody: 5:39pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
GrandGarcon:Ah bros! Na you d tin dey pain o, Nigeria dey kampe, can the same be said about your Biafra? Embrace one Nigeria 1 Like |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by ManMountain(m): 5:40pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
Amarabae: Pure trash. Everything to you is HATE. When Yorubas spear headed his ascendancy to the Presidency during Yardua debacle and voted for him overwhelmingly in 2011, it was love right? Please, brush up your political knowledge. You voted for GEJ, not out of love for his Ijaw people, but you see him as your own favorite, shikena. 5 Likes |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by fratermathy(m): 5:40pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
Ngozi123: As an Urhobo man, I have never seen any Urhobo speak passionately of Biafra or LNC, talk less of agitating for it. Whatever members you may have are as insignificant as to Urhobo nation as much as Hausas are to the Biafra cause. |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by ManMountain(m): 5:41pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
fratermathy: That in bold is the whole idea. 2 Likes |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by Ngozi123(f): 5:45pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
ManMountain: You do realise that you're talking to someone who advocates an "Igbo First" policy, right? Personally speaking, I believe that the campaign for independence should only concern Igbo people, whether they be from the South-South or South-East. However, if these pressure groups can prove that 50 people from each minority tribe wants a referendum then it should be conducted there. A referendum would be a win-win for the likes of you anyway: if it comes out that the vast majority of these people don't want to leave Nigeria, as you claim, then the referendum would reflect that. It would give you concrete evidence to support your claims. 12 Likes |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by CarlosTheJackal: 5:45pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
fratermathy:Go find work brother 2 Likes |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by Amarabae(f): 5:46pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
fratermathy:you did not counter my comment,you dodged it. in democracy, everone have a freedom to vote who they like? true or false? my anger was that you accused Igbos of hatred just for excersicing their right via voting for GEJ? you forgot that we also voted for Obasanjo and yaradua. I hate hypocrisy and always call it out when I see one. Igbos and Igbos Are not the same thing, don't insult Igbos because of Igbos. thanks 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by Nobody: 5:47pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
[s] fratermathy:[/s] This guy is funny. In your number 2 you generalized the SS. Now you say you want Urhobo. GOOD FOR YOU! Stop making sweeping statements. Infact,if I get in touch with our media crew,I will request and upload here,a video of an Urhobo soliciting support for Biafra during an IPoB meeting. You don't really know what's up Nigga. 10 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by ManMountain(m): 5:47pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
Ngozi123: So let it remain so, or else, you will keep attracting opprobrium to your biafran cause |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by fratermathy(m): 5:49pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
DocHMD: I missed this initially. So in your old "journals", Urhobo-Isokoland was in pre-Lugardian Biafra? May I see that map, please? So even Itsekiri was in pre-Lugardian Biafra? Why wasn't Edo, the progenitor of the Urhobo-Isoko, in the map? Why wasn't Yoruba, the progenitor of Itsekiri, in the map? So is this map selective? Is the Epie-Atissa, also from Edo, the Ogbia, the Degema, etc, which are Edoid, also in the pre-Lugardian map? So which indigenous person was educated enough to draw the map? If what you said is true then I must agree with IpobExposed that Nnamdi Kanu is a liar and a fraud. I need to see that map ASAP. 3 Likes |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by khadaffi(m): 5:50pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
fratermathy:Did they ever responded to the issues you raised? I couldn't read through the pages cause most of the IPOB are talking trash as usual. If they answered it please quote the place and refer me there thanks. 2 Likes |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by Amarabae(f): 5:51pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
ManMountain:so the late dora akunyili who fought for GEJ was yoruba? now if you SW Love ijaws, tell buhari to relocate oil company headquaters from Lagos to Yenegoa! can you guys do that for the 'ijaws you love'. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by fratermathy(m): 5:52pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
iSlayer2: I need to see that video. Many Urhobos are viewing this thread now. Prove us all wrong and upload proof that an URHOBO (Ihwo ro Ode) went to BEG Igbo for Biafra! Why resort to fabricated lies now? Who are those Urhobos? List their names so that I can give you the history behind them right now. I made 5 points. Have you attempted to address any? You uploaded a video that could have been made anywhere by anyone. If I copy that video and change the title to Rivers and Akwa Ibom women protesting against Biafra, would I not have done what you have done? Anyway, I don't have that time. Address my issues. |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by Ngozi123(f): 5:52pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
fratermathy: If they can prove that 50 people from yours and the other minority ethnic groups do want a referendum, be it for their own nationhood or to join the Igbos, then it should be conducted. At the very least, it'll prove your point. 7 Likes |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by Ngozi123(f): 5:54pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
ManMountain: It definitely will remain so. I honestly don't care about your ethnic group and most likely won't anytime soon . 5 Likes |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by fratermathy(m): 5:54pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
Amarabae: There are two persons engaging you here. You didn't ask me anything. Everyone has freedom to vote in politics. However, in Nigeria we play ethnopolitics. You are an Igbo supremacist and that is glaring now. I have nothing else to say to you. 2 Likes |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by fratermathy(m): 5:55pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
khadaffi: They have not attempted to address the issues. They found a way to even drag Yoruba into the matter. Another uploaded an irrelevant video of women shouting. The others are acting like the number 3 point on my list. 2 Likes |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by fratermathy(m): 6:01pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
Ngozi123: It behoves you who calls for a referendum to prove that the people need one. Besides, here's how Urhobo Progress Union (UPU) makes decisions: They propose ideas to representatives of cultural units in Urhobo such as Okpe, Uvwie, Agbon, etc. These representatives meet with Village Chiefs, Community Organisations, Kings and the people and convey the people's wish back to UPU. After that UPU makes an official statement on something. All these were done before UPU came out to say that Urhobos DO NO WANT BIAFRA! If you have an alternative view, then present proof that we need a referendum. No Urhobo official outlet or king has asked for it. We are not mute. We can speak what we want explicitly! In fact no minority tribe has asked for a referendum. When many of us asked of resource control, everyone heard it and ratified it. None has asked to join Biafra or for a referendum to that effect. 3 Likes |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by Amarabae(f): 6:04pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
fratermathy:so if I start insulting my people with you, then you will admire me? sorry i am not an efulefu. you isulted Igbos and I called you out, sorry we Igbos don't play ethnopolitcs, we voted for obasanjo over ojukwu in 2003, we have voted massively for a yoruba,ijaw and fulani men to be president, ethnopolitics is not our thing. Igbo and Ipob are not the same thing, Don't hide under Ipob excuse to express your Igbophobia. 4 Likes |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by Bigdigpussylova(m): 6:05pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
why are u guys fighting over nothing? I would prefer to see a constructive and robust discussion on the need to restructure the country. i am an indigenous Biafran and a citizen of Nigeria. i want to see this country restructured as a confederation. every section of the country should develop itself and contribute to the national purse. the confederation should legislate on defence, foreign policies, immigration, aviation and space technology, marine and oceanology and few other sectors. the federating state could take charge of every other sectors like; education, agriculture, mining and commerce etc . my humble opinion though. May God bless Ndi Biafra. God bless 4 Likes |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by Ngozi123(f): 6:07pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
fratermathy: I don't believe that you've been reading my posts. I said that if they- the Independence campaigners- can prove that 50 people from each minority tribe want to have a referendum, whether for their own nationhood or to join the Igbos, then it should be conducted for the sake of democracy. As I said before, at worst, it'll be hardcore evidence that'll support your position. 5 Likes |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by fratermathy(m): 6:07pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
Amarabae: Whatever you say. You reign supreme! Your royal highness! They care only for themselves and themselves alone. I challenge you to quote the post throughout this thread where I insulted the great Igbo nation! Other SSners take note! 1 Like |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by GrandGarcon: 6:07pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
kropotkin2:Go to hell with your zoo. 2 Likes |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by fratermathy(m): 6:09pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
Bigdigpussylova: You have spoken well. Daalu nwoke oma. |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by Nobody: 6:10pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
fratermathy: You must be out of your mind if you think I would go that far to convince one fratermathy about the state of things. I wonder who you think you're talking to. I'm not like you. Your rants don't bother me, better understand my stance now. shishh. 2 Likes |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by Chinachriss(m): 6:11pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
t Thank you Frathermathy for this thread. I remember opening a thread about how Akwa Ibomites in my school vehemently repudiate the Biafran stuff and one of your attackers came for me too requesting statistics and other tosh. They are just far from reality. You,ve written the gospel truth. We don"t have any right to coerce your people to join us. Things have to done appropriately as tradition demands. Just ignore them. You've made your point. I still maintain that getting Biafra is impossible if they don"t change their strategy. 2 Likes 1 Share |
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