onos217:
JW? I don't grant them audience whenever they come telling their gospel to me because it does not tally with my own gospel and believe.So it's no use giving them a listening ear .
It will all end in debating the scripture which the Bible frowns against.

Meanwhile, there's this elderly man who is a member.I granted him audience because of his age. It won't look good if I turn him down. So we exchange pleasantries,he introduced himself and got to know a bit of me. We had bit of discussion,and he finally handed me one of these their journal to read.I receprocrated the gesture with an appreciation (thank you) .

Thinking it will all end there, but this man will not let me be.He comes around most time on Saturdays.Often than not, , I will have to give one excuse or the other to free myself from him. But this is becoming one too many,and my patience is fast running out.One of these day I plan to let him know I have no interest in whatever he wants to relate to me in regards to the gospel he goes about preaching , and that it's been a while I had peace on weekends.

Jw's do not force any to listen to the Bible's message
We respect everyone's stand when it comes to matters concerning the Bible.
We believe that if one does not listen today he or she may do so sometime in future
So you can tell the man you aint interested and save him the stress of 'worrying' you.

azaino:

That one small nah, my neighbour's beautiful newly married wife plays anything naija like; Olamide, phyno fino, davido, don jazzy and all his children, tecno, p square (especially bank alert, in fact that one go make am mad one day, na so dey talk oo, Ice prince zamani (.....orobo get body, orobo no sabi to shake body...etc), flavour, chidimma. in fact she loves everything, and the husband has started blasting bank alert like his beautiful wife. But they detest gospel music.

As for the reason they gave for avoiding gospel lyrics. my co-tenant was a member, but the guy don pot over, when I asked him about the Jws, he just called them CULT. But I didn't get the opportunity to hear his reason cos a visitor interrupted our peaceful discussion. maybe I will ask him tomorrow. And that guy no be floor member when he was a JW. He told me that when you read the bible with open mind, without being guided by anyone on where to read and how to interpret, the holy spirit will open your eyes to so many things. Other JWs that don't know that the man was a member will go to him for bible discussion, but they leave the moment the man starts showing them things.

Very true. I agree completely with everything you said. I'm a JW, but an awaken jw. I no longer believe all the things the teaches. At least, I now believe only what the Bible says, but a JW is expected to believe, not what the Bible says but as interpreted by their leaders. I know it is so disheartening, but true.

I was on preaching once, and someone I was preaching to asked me exactly the same question. Why we play all sort of musics but Gospel. I didn't remember answering him something good. But it got me thinking, I even pose same question to my brother. I couldn't help but agree that it was hypocritical.

JW are cult. JWs themselves wouldn't agree to these, because they don't know what cult means. Most people think for cult as some gun/machete carry killers, but in the case of religion, it not so. To know more what makes JWs cult, please read this article http://jwfacts.com/watchtower/fear-cult-mind-control.php

chubbyswit:
why would jw disfellowship a member that starts to question their belief? Is it not wickedness? Even some families go to the extent of disowning their own because of this, you guys are just too weird.

We don't disfellowship people cos they ask questions.. infact we answer each nd every question. We disfellowship someone who delibrately reproach Jehovah.

Sarang:



We don't disfellowship people cos they ask questions.. infact we answer each nd every question. We disfellowship someonw who delibrately reproach Jehovah.

Then you don't know your religion very well. Immediately you question the believe of JWs, and the elders get to know about it, unless you recant, you are done for.

iamloyalty:


It is no name calling he is an apostate if u know what it means and his information is malicious.

Please yourself with the name-calling. But let's concede to the fact that quite a number of JW does what the op stated. I know JW doctrines deeply surge in your heart, but don't let that make you pull a blind eye to this issue the op raised. I know it's not all(JWs), but a quite a number does what the op raised.

rottennaija:


Very true. I agree completely with everything you said. I'm a JW, but an awaken jw. I no longer believe all the things the teaches. At least, I now believe only what the Bible says, but a JW is expected to believe, not what the Bible says but as interpreted by their leaders. I know it is so disheartening, but true.

I was on preaching once, and someone I was preaching to asked me exactly the same question. Why we play all sort of musics but Gospel. I didn't remember answering him something good. But it got me thinking, I even pose same question to my brother. I couldn't help but agree that it was hypocritical.

JW are cult. JWs themselves wouldn't agree to these, because they don't know what cult means. Most people think for cult as some gun/machete carry killers, but in the case of religion, it not so. To know more what makes JWs cult, please read this article http://jwfacts.com/watchtower/fear-cult-mind-control.php

You are not Jw, stop claims. Awakened to the world? Taught by leaders? We have no leader except Jehovah. No matter how much you claim to be you are not a JW

rottennaija:


Then you don't know your religion very well. Immediately you question the believe of JWs, and the elders get to know about it, unless you recant, you are done for.

I do, it is my religion. How can you know something when you are not into it better?

In my life, Jw has Never asked me to do something for which my conscience bothers me. Leave rumour

Drawing traffic through prejudice. Op is that how you do your hustle? Esp. On Sunday?

Drhauwal:
Some JW's do listen to secular songs while some do not. it is a matter of personal preference. we listen to our own "gospel" songs and do not listen to other churches gospel songs because the contents of those songs do contains doctrines that we Jehovah's witnesses don't believe in such as Christmas, trinity, hellfire, immortality of the soul, birthday, calling Jesus God among others.
Even a Christian Jehovah witness who listen to secular songs also have to be selective as some songs may encourage or "hype" immorality, violence or spiritism. take for example I deleted a song by olamide ft lil Kesh ft phyno on my phone some couple of years back. the "ladi" song.
for more about JW check www.jw.org buh OP those pictures at the fore of this post shows how degraded your brains are. don't try tanish the image of Jehovah's witnesses, try and be reasonable unless you wanna incure God's wrath! Peace!

Nice one sis, which cong?

GoodinPurple:
Exactly, this has got me wondering.. I have some JW friends and this is what I discovered about them
1)They love football (it is normal)
2)They only read their version of the Bible called "Holy Scripture"
3) They don't pray
4) They don't play or listen to gospel music
Note: These are what I have observed about a lot of them...

How do you know they don't pray? Are you with them 24/7? Just wondering

Sarang:


I do, it is my religion. How can you know something when you are not into it better?

In my life, Jw has Never asked me to do something for which my conscience bothers me. Leave rumour

You have not yet reach the tipping point. Till then, you will never know

Dgunnerz:
Never seen a JW playing secular song..

Is the OP correct?

they play it a lot,most of their members play secular music.

It's very true. As a Dj, I was almost tore into shreds by JW members at a wedding reception when I decided to open the event with a Gospel track

iamloyalty:
Apostates OP shame on u, cos u were disfellowshiped as a jw because of ur wrong doing instead of u to repent u are blackmailing Jw, better retrace ur step else it will be too late.

What has the OP said or reveal that has led to such conclusions from you? I remember very clearly, I was asked same question by a householder while I was preaching.

You know one thing that detest me about being a JW? Hypocrisy. Hypocrisy of JWs. It comes down from the top to bottom. Right from the legal department, GB till the rank and files. If you are examined very well, you may be living in sin, while carrying preaching bags every Saturday, but you are here to throw the first stone.

Look at how easy it was for you to call him names, without dealing with the question or giving a biblical response. If it were another religion that was criticised, the JWs on this forum will be the first to throw stones, but they hate their way of worship being criticised. It scares them to the core.

A typical example of the hypocrisy is when the Jw legal department decides to put transcript of the court case of the Russian ban on their legal section of the website (they have been running that story for quite some times now) but no mention of the series of child abuse cases going on in different countries of the world, no mention of Australian Royal commission inquiry, no mention of same inquiry in London or USA. No mention of the Just settled court case in US where watchtower had to pay millions of dollars in compensation.

Such hypocrisy is nothing short of same displayed by the pharisee of Jesus' day.

todaynewsreview:
For sometime now, I've observed that many a time, you see JW members playing all sorts of secular music but frown at gospel tracks. This has raised series of questions as to the rationale behind such actions. I plead with oga the moderators to draw the attention of all in the known to give their opinions.

The wtinesse you would say do not play "christian records" but not that they prefer secular music's to it.

Yes, many play secular music's, but none would play "gospel music". The choice of secular music any witness would play is personal. No one will judge anyone for his choice (assuming the lyrics are wholesome). Unfortunately though, some do not have a choice. They ve played anything that comes there way in as much as it sounds good to there ear. This is wrong. That isn't the teaching we receive.

rottennaija:


Very true. I agree completely with everything you said. I'm a JW, but an awaken jw. I no longer believe all the things the teaches. At least, I now believe only what the Bible says, but a JW is expected to believe, not what the Bible says but as interpreted by their leaders. I know it is so disheartening, but true.

I was on preaching once, and someone I was preaching to asked me exactly the same question. Why we play all sort of musics but Gospel. I didn't remember answering him something good. But it got me thinking, I even pose same question to my brother. I couldn't help but agree that it was hypocritical.

JW are cult. JWs themselves wouldn't agree to these, because they don't know what cult means. Most people think for cult as some gun/machete carry killers, but in the case of religion, it not so. To know more what makes JWs cult, please read this article http://jwfacts.com/watchtower/fear-cult-mind-control.php

You don't have to lie about ever being a JW just to discredit them. Your comment above just gave you out. Your were never a JW, at best you were just an interested person whose interest eventually wore out, probably because it was not well grounded in the truth.

JMAN05:


The wtinesse you would say do not play "christian records" but not that they prefer secular music's to it.

Yes, many play secular music's, but none would play "gospel music". The choice of secular music any witness would play is personal. No one will judge anyone for his choice (assuming the lyrics are wholesome). Unfortunately though, some do not have a choice. They ve played anything that comes there way in as much as it sounds good to there ear. This is wrong. That isn't the teaching we receive.

It's still doesn't answer the question that a mere hearing of any song that says Jesus or praise God or anything that has to do with Bible, they immediately change the song or channel but can and will listen to music that glorifies sex, immorality, drugs etc without thinking twice.

And mind you, even if the Gospel music doesnt contain trinity, immorality of the soul, hellfire etc.

rottennaija:


Then you don't know your religion very well. Immediately you question the believe of JWs, and the elders get to know about it, unless you recant, you are done for.

Why are you bent on peddling false information? Why can't you ask questions for clarification rather than making spurious claims?

Jascon4:


You don't have to lie about ever being a JW just to discredit them. Your comment above just gave you out. Your were never a JW, at best you were just an interested person whose interest eventually wore out, probably because it was not well grounded in the truth.

Lie for what? To impressed who? You? Nairaland? We just finished our circuit week, next is our circuit assemblies.

rottennaija:


Then you don't know your religion very well. Immediately you question the believe of JWs, and the elders get to know about it, unless you recant, you are done for.

Happened to me.
I noticed that the name Jehovah was wrong, even Jesus never called his father's name.. Yet you find Jehovah getting printed in new testament of jws new world translation of d Bible

Russia thinks jw is a cult... So it is.

rottennaija:


Lie for what? To impressed who? You? Nairaland? We just finished our circuit week, next is our circuit assemblies.

Using those terms doesn't make you a JW...your comments earlier already sold you out..you have never been one...just an interested person...that's all.

Jascon4:


Why are you bent on peddling false information? Why can't you ask questions for clarification rather than making spurious claims?

My dear, unless you are not aware, then I can understand. Have been a JW for more than 20 years, I have read experiences of many. I have seen them myself. So, unless you are not intent on misleading the public, you are not talking to a kid or someone that doesn't know.

rottennaija:


It's still doesn't answer the question that a mere hearing of any song that says Jesus or praise God or anything that has to do with Bible, they immediately change the song or channel but can and will listen to music that glorifies sex, immorality, drugs etc without thinking twice.

And mind you, even if the Gospel music doesnt contain trinity, immorality of the soul, hellfire etc.

Yap, no witness would play "gospel songs" even if it doesn't mention trinity. And it is quite hard to sing a "gospel song" without including any false teaching. However, we avoid interfaith in all its ways. There are no two faiths, but one. Eph 4:4,5.

I must admit that many witnesses have gone far with secular musics. Many don't scrutinize lyrics. They are anything-goes. This however isn't the teaching we receive. There is however, a big difference between secular music and the so called gospel musics.

rottennaija:


My dear, unless you are not aware, then I can understand. Have been a JW for more than 20 years, I have read experiences of many. I have seen them myself. So, unless you are not intent on misleading the public, you are not talking to a kid or someone that doesn't know.

Anyone can claim anything online. But I know for a certainty that you weren't one. Go back and read your first comment, you shot yourself in the foot

Jascon4:


Using those terms doesn't make you a JW...your comments earlier already sold you out..you have never been one...just an interested person...that's all.

And interested person that was baptised in 2002? Became an MS in 2008? Delivered many talks? Handle assignment at conventions? Many demonstrations? Conduct congregational Bible study?

Well, you can believe whatever you want

JMAN05:


Yap, no witness would play "gospel songs" even if it doesn't mention trinity. And it is quite hard to sing a "gospel song" without including any false teaching. However, we avoid interfaith in all its ways. There are no two faiths, but one. Eph 4:4,5.

I must admit that many witnesses have gone far with secular musics. Many don't scrutinize lyrics. They are anything-goes. This however isn't the teaching we receive. There is however, a big difference between secular music and the so called gospel musics.

And what exactly are these false teaching? Because I can mention as many false teaching in the jw org as I know.

I was reading an article about the memorial, by Raymond Frank, a former governing body member. In his books, Crisis of conscience and in search of christian freedom, I have never seen those expressions before. He actually was responding to an mail sent by someone about memorial and how it can be celebrated. At some point in the mail, he used the words, "following Jesus’ crucifixion" , and I asked myself, why did he go back to believe in cross? Not stake? Because he later knew that cross is actually supported biblically.

Read more at http://www.jwstruggle.com/2013/03/ray-franz-comments-on-the-memorial/

What I am basically saying is, you may believe that what you know is true. If indeed it is true, it should stand the test of scrutiny. By all means then, examine your believes, put it into the test. Just like you asked people you preach to, to do, you likewise do same. You can never tell how much impact it will have in your life

rottennaija:


And interested person that was baptised in 2002? Became an MS in 2008? Delivered many talks? Handle assignment at conventions? Many demonstrations? Conduct congregational Bible study?

Well, you can believe whatever you want

Like I said, just an interested person who wasn't well grounded in the truth.

Jascon4:


Like I said, just an interested person who wasn't well grounded in the truth.

I was born and brought up in what you called the 'truth'. After I started researchjng these 'truth', they fell like Park of cards. So, it may be truth to you, but not to me that knows that there is nothing true about it.

And by the way, remember. Gods word says, Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. It didn't say the organisation is. But the organisation claiming to be the "truth" has now turned itself into a second mediator, pushing the role of Jesus and the one and true mediator into the background.

So think again before calling the organisation the "truth"

rottennaija:


I was born and brought up in what you called the 'truth'. After I started researchjng these 'truth', they fell like Park of cards. So, it may be truth to you, but not to me that knows that there is nothing true about it.

All the best.

iamloyalty:


u are wrong. Someone who refused to live by the standard of the bible and refuses to repent and goes abt blackmailing other Jw. We dont KILL.

Do me a favour, u want you to zero your mind, that is make your believe neutral, forget whatever the elders and leaders has told you. Pick up a Bible ( king James or good news) and read for yourself.
Even your explanation of the apostate is what the leader instructed. Do something with open mind, and the spirit of God will speak to your heart, do not believe what I said, but try and forget what they taught you all long and allow God to minister to you, hope they won't find out if you try and do this privately on your own

azaino:

Do me a favour, u want you to zero your mind, that is make your believe neutral, forget whatever the elders and leaders has told you. Pick up a Bible ( king James or good news) and read for yourself.
Even your explanation of the apostate is what the leader instructed. Do something with open mind, and the spirit of God will speak to your heart, do not believe what I said, but try and forget what they taught you all long and allow God to minister to you, hope they won't find out if you try and do this privately on your own

Waste of precious advice. To him, you are like a drug talking. They don't even understand what it means for God's spirit to minister to them and help them understand the Bible.