Pidgin2:


The average Nigerian does not sell akamu

Pidgin2:


Nice thread but Nigeria is not a difficult place to live in. Those who want to migrate can do so legitimately and anyone seeking to stay shouldn't be made to feel like he or she is living in hell because it isn't true. Good thread

OluDare01:

Gotcha!
Yeah life here does come at a cost.

nextstep:


It's a wash... If you don't pay tax, then you're likely earning a bit less, since it's under the table. And if you've got living arrangements with your employer, then you're likely earning even less. You might go up to $13 or even $15/hour, but that's on the high end for house help, and you'd be lucky to pick up a lot of hours at that rate. Yes there are some who are extremely lucky, but the estimates I gave are not too far off.

If you don't have a sponsor you have to repay, then view it as replenishing the savings you had to sacrifice for the trip. The point is, unless you're a professional (which likely means you had to get a 4-year degree abroad - more debt there), it's very difficult to "make it" with service labour.

When I consider the people who stay here and become well-to-do with the same investment they would have used to travel, it's puzzling that those with the means to travel don't invest at home. Afterall, gathering almost 1M means you're not dirt poor

maasoap:

The average Nigerian does not sell akamu, really? What are they selling then? Diamond and gold? Don't make me laugh here. An average Nigerian makes less than 30k a month, lives on less than 2 dollars per day. If you have to guess their job based on that, which one would you guess as their job? Akamu or diamond?

Lexusgs430:


My only question is, after all your quoted, wetin you dey keep babe for?

MissCheezyPuff:
I wanna chat u. Where in the US u live?
When did u come over?
And why did u come over?

salford:

I dont discourage people to migrate especially if they are under some dire situation.
If you have a good job plus career in naija, can afford good hospitals, live well, afford holidays overseas e.t.c then they might want to consider d "abroad" option well. The "abroad" could be a career suicide at times.

Pidgin2:


The average Nigerian does not sell akamu

Lexusgs430:


My projection is for the long term, not short term. Some maids do earn well.
I have learnt in my short life, never to say never.......
NB : A quick case study - Nanny A, N1,000,000 laying dormant in her account. An opportunity presents itself to travel to the USA. How many years, months, weeks or days would it take the nanny to replenish that savings account back to its former state, prior to travelling?
You see the logic + reasoning?
NB: All things been equal......

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Pidgin2:


Nice thread but Nigeria is not a difficult place to live in. Those who want to migrate can do so legitimately and anyone seeking to stay shouldn't be made to feel like he or she is living in hell because it isn't true. Good thread

OluDare01:

I live in Tennessee,came here 9months ago for my master's.

Enjoy ya stay.

But why did u come to the US to study? And what exactly are u studying?
Do u plan to go back to Nigeria after ya studies?

Lexusgs430:


If you try the akamu with moimoi prepared in leaf, you would know why we love akamu....

bebe2:


Bro calm down
And apologise pls

Death is a difficult emotion to deal with, he told us wat happened, but u doubting him without really knowing the fact. He probably abbreviated the story, but u don't know nothing about it.

Pls apologise and let move on,

MissCheezyPuff:
Enjoy ya stay.

But why did u come to the US to study? And what exactly are u studying?
Do u plan to go back to Nigeria after ya studies?

goldedprince:
abroad is not for everybody. if you are not mentally smart, u cant survive. if you cant endure pain, you cant survive.
if you want it easy, then you have to be hot as hell, by that, i mean, if you are a guy, you have to be hot and sexy to the point that atleast 8 out of 10 ladies wont be able to resist you. seriously, on my first trip abroad, i was taken care of by ladies. yes you have to know how to satisfy them too. u know the health risk that comes with that right. its not everyone that might be lucky like me, but if you are sexy, smart and know how to use ur tool, abroad go sweet you die. these girls no dey play with sexy BBC at all. unlike naija wey these annoying oloshos go dey disturb you for money, there na over correct babes go they pay you. remember u have to be hot. six packs is compulsory. well to cut the very long story short, if you go to abroad for gigolo work and you are hot, then you are in heaven on earth.
on the other hand, if you are ready to go through the stress that comes with money without using your tool, then you are also welcome.

Basalt:



And the discouraging RAP continues.
Always bringing out ugly scenarios. Have you given a case of someone making it there or Do you mean all the people that come there always die on the long run.
Stop discouraging people from coming abroad, Nigeria ain't any better.

odimbannamdi:


Oga, call your bro to tell you the truth.

Originalsly:
People at home have a certain mindset of life in America.... they only need to arrive... and all things will be bright and beautiful....just like on TV.... as long as you are willing to work hard. When those abroad say life is not as easy as you may think... it is called discouragement... because that is not what you want to hear. Yes...I am on vacation ..
loving it .... I should encourage you to invest half your life savings or borrow money and come enjoy just like me. What you dont factor in... is I have massive support... do I have to pay $150+ per nite in a cheap hotel?no... I pay zero for shelter...would you?...do I have to pay for food?...transport? No.. not a kobo....would you?...Would you have people showing you the ropes?...where to shop or get whatever?..no...but I do. It is not discouraging you from coming but for you to plan well and have every thing in order before you travel. I'll encourage everyone to come visit... don't overstay and be trapped here.... this can be a very lonely and a very rough place ... wayyy rougher than one weather Naija. There is sooo much to learn here...business ideas would just be jumping out at you. Dont see alerts as discouragement. ... same as people retiring or whatever and returning home... ignoring what those on ground are saying.... seeing it as same discouragement. Bottom line... look before you leap.

OluDare01:

This one na visa interview o lol.

I'm a chemistry major.
Ofcourse you can't compare the standard or education here with Nigeria. I can't start the comparison but the difference is clear. State of the art research facilities and hands-on experience opetating instruments.

Going back depends on if I get a good job in naija

AreaFada2:
Bebe2,

To be honest it is not fashionable to be honest when dealing with our fellow Nigerians, especially if you live abroad. They start calling you enemy of progress.

I have actively discouraged Nigerians from coming to the West ANYHOW.

We know what we suffered back then. A close friend froze to death on the street, sleeping rough. It could have been me. Once money was exhausted, we had no place to sleep. His miserable death haunts me till today.

But when you tell people, they say "but you have made it now, you very fine now, it cannot be as bad as 9ja na, etc." I don't even know what "made it" mean in their imagination.

I always advice people to come as postgrad students, with enough money in their pockets. That way, even if they have to return home, the time wasn't wasted.

I have discouraged many social media "friends" from crossing Sahara desert with the help of a "sponsor" to Italy. Those who did not listen. They are paying off 30 to 50K Euros now doing prostitution. Some have been honest enough to say "I wish I listened to your advice".

Nobody is afraid of anyone. Many abroad just do not want others to make the mistake they made, either by abandoning their studies, travelling with anyhow documents, coming with tourist visa and overstaying, quitting a good job to travel abroad, etc.

An example: a cousin of mine worked for about 11 years in a first generation bank. He quit and came abroad. I just bumped into him one day. He jumped and hugged me. I did not recognise him right away, being tall & big guy now. He died here in diaspora a couple of years ago. He regretted his decision to travel abroad, despite having a wife and 3 kids here.

A friend also quit a first generation bank job to travel. He regretted it daily. He died of cancer here around 5 years back, leaving 4 kids behind.

Both lived abroad in regret, after quitting well paid jobs in 9ja. Those of us who left as teenagers took it more in our stride, after the difficult first few years.

People should be well informed before travelling. Not just anyhow, to any destination believing you can make huge money anywhere abroad.

We have ruined our name enough abroad: scam/fraud, drug trafficking, prostitution, etc. Mostly due to unplanned travelling out.

MissCheezyPuff:
Nah. I always question foreigners who want to or who live here already why they do

pffft. Nigeria has Chemistry majors who school an graduate there and they are no less than American graduates.

But its ya choice.

judgedredd22:



the way you people sound so confident in your ignorance baffles me! your limited knowledge is not where the world ends!