I am an Urhobo from Okpara Inland(Agbon Clan) your piece may have been an eye opener to more research and fact finding about our lineage but i think the theory that we migrated from Egypt is not in anyway right i would rather go with the myth that we migrated from Benin and some part from Igbo but the closeness in language between the Urhobos and their Benin counterpart makes me believe Urhobos and the Bini may have a common heritage and likewise the Igbo speaking tribe judging from dancing step to music.

Urhobo WADO, Urhobo Ovo Ovo

wa yore Urhobo gan, wa siobo ne erare Urhobo.

This is an attempt to trace the origin of the urhobo people with...

1. A small amount of names and things that sound alike and,

2. A big hot pile of horse crap.


I would like to see the guy that actually sat down and started pulling names out his nose for those royal lineages.

Example of a corrupt lineage.

Melaye - 240BC

Saraki - 260BC

Obasanjo - 272BC

Anini - 282 BC (exiled to Atlantis)

Oyenusi - 320BC (coup detat)

Judas iscariot ( The source)

I don't believe this shit

Oshare this your history ehn.. e weak me o!

In any case, it's a nice one- as long as it brings Urhobo to the fore!

Kobiruo!

Sanchez01:

Or origin is purely from Bini and not Egypt or Sudan.

This thread shouldn't have made FP.

@Efewestern:

This thread is a kind of pseudo-history. The Op is not the first to venture into this waters. We have the likes of Dr. Charles Osume who wrote a book titled The Okpe People, as well as Bobson Gbinije, among others. Their argument is that Urhobos originate directly from Egypt. While the theory is plausible, it is inherently flawed because all Urhobo myths, legends and historians trace our origin to Aka (Benin) or Ife (in the case of some clans).

I only appreciate this thread because it foregrounded Urhobo people. However, everyone should be wary of its content and regard it as purely pseudo-history. Urhobos are from Udo in Ancient Benin and we arrived our current lands at different migratory waves. Some Urhobo clans came from Isoko and some Isoko clans came from Urhobo. That is the standard academic history of Urhobo people.

Sanchez01:
ScionofUrhobo, these are very difficult to take in and truth be told, the whole thing seems unbelievable. The history of the Urhobos have from time immemorial being a debate as their are four postulations concerning this same thing

The first is that the Urhobos are the original dwellers and owners of their territory who have been living in their territories from time immemorial. (I find this unbelievable because migration would have happened and that would best explain the similarity between ours and some Edoid groups.)

The second tradition is that the Urhobos left Edo at the end of the Ogiso dynasty in search of more peaceful locations as a result of “cruelty, animosity and tyranny” which pushed them out of the Benin kingdom. (This is most likely to be)

The third tradition is that the Urhobos migrated from Ile-Ife in Yorubaland. (This is not in any way correct. Benin is tied to Ilé-Ifẹ̀. It best supports the idea that we stemmed from Edo, but from Ilé-Ifẹ̀? I don't think so.)

The fourth is that the Urhobos migrated from
Sudan and Egypt. (This is already discussed extensively, all thanks for you. However, I don't think this is true in any way.)

Besides, night in Urhobo is ASO, and not ASUN.

Your position that the Urhobos migrated from the old Benin kingdom, is more apt bro.

Urhobo didn't migrate from Sudan or Egypt. If in doubt, why is it that majority of the Urhobos still refer to Benin as their ancestral home. Hence when a new oba is to take the throne, all mordern tribe that was part of the ancient kingdom send emissaries to identify with their ancient root.
Most part of delta up to onisha, ifon and owo in ondo state, and the ishekiries all send representatives.

The only part I am not sure of, is the ijaws . I don't know where they migrated from, but I know they are scattered all over Nigeri and their language is very very different from other Nigeria languages. From the core north around the lake Chad to the far west of the seme border in Lagos state, to the far south eastern part of akwa ibom and some part of the igbo land.

The funniest thing is that thy speak the same language with different little or no difference as a result of dialects and inter marriage between them and their host communities.
That's just my take.

KemjikaEme:
Fantasy tales by people trying to make a connection to Egypt.
Why not fill the loop holes and connection between West African tribes before trying to cross the sahara into North Africa?

This is not the standard history of Urhobo people. Urhobos are regarded as having Benin origins.

This information is very wrong for various reasons.

Sunnycliff:
Igbo's can't come from Egypt. The Yoruba's landed like a catapult from Heaven. So get your first comment right!

We Igbo's have no same origin with Hausa and Yorubas

Urhobo people are not IGBOS! So I don't see the basis for your comment.

WebSurfer:
These post is making alot of sense she, but I always thought we isoko originated from Benins or Yoruba because even in terms of genes , I can concur alot

Most of us originated from Benin, a few others claim Ife. This thread is nothing but pseudo-history. Don't take it as a fact. It is only someone's interpretation of history.

make i book am down

This history is so funny, urhobo from middle east? isoko and okpe na from where? Itsekiri person go soon come and say they are from the northpole. UPU come and see oh!

Brooke60:
You forgot to mention that their men are dogs

And the ones in your ethnicity are he-goats?

jchioma:
Hmmm! This history is too factual to be fiction o! Not with these names and clear interpretations therein! But OP, how did you come about all these?

Nothing is factual about this. It is simply the Op's interpretation of history. What is generally accepted by everyone is that Urhobos originated from Aka (Benin). Some clans like Okpe claim Ife (Yoruba) ancestry but nothing connects us to Egypt directly. What you see here is a case of "You see exactly what you want to see".

Nigeriadondie:
Urhobo wayo

It is Urhobo WADOOO

Don't try to play a fast one.

marcondo13:
Like the leader of EFF,Malema said during the African Day celebration in South Africa,everybody comes from somewhere.Recently,a top Chinese scientist shocked the nation when he said that the Chinese are descendants of ancient Egypt. He did carbon dating and also tested the mineralogical composition of the most ancient artifacts found in China. The result showed that the ores were alien to Asia,and were consistent with those made around that period in Egypt,and were produced using the same smelting technique! There were references in ancient Chinese poems about mountains that can not be found in China but in the Sinai Penisula. When the Chinese President last visited Egypt,he mentioned a Kemetic adage: He who drinks from the Nile,will always return! Last year, Egyptian hieroglyphs were found carved in the Australian outbacks,and was confirmed as genuine! There are records of Africans who were great lords and landowners in Scotland and Ireland. Even the official coat of arms of the current British Royal Dynasty bears the profile of an African! A simple study of all African tribal history always mention migration.
The Urhobo have never been a single people,with regards to the time of settling. There have always been waves of settlers all over the Delta,and no record of a single people moving towards the south. For example,there are claims that the people of Evwreni were descendants of settlers from Awka,who intermarried. Even if recent history says that there were several migrations out of Benin,led by several Princes and chiefs,the question still remains,where does the Benin people come from. If it is Egypt,then, where did the ancient Egyptians and Nubians come from?
So,the question never ends.So,don't wave any story away as fanciful or absurd,until it has been checked! Just my two pence! Okpe Agbamu eni!

Okpe's Charles Osume linked Okpe Kingdom to Egypt and many Okpes accepted it because the result was that Okpes are not Urhobos.
I do not presume that you subscribe to Osume's thought but you and I know that this Egyptian connection is farfetched. I have seen many pseudo-historians attempt to link their tribes to ancient Egypt and their attempts are simply laughable.

If you say Urhobo's roots are diverse, I'd agree because the same applies to ALL ethnicities of the world. We are not one people. We only became one by virtue of common borders, values and heritage. However, to say all Urhobos are from Egypt is a far stretch and should be left at what is it: "pseudo-history"!

Sanchez01:
ScionofUrhobo, these are very difficult to take in and truth be told, the whole thing seems unbelievable. The history of the Urhobos have from time immemorial being a debate as their are four postulations concerning this same thing

The first is that the Urhobos are the original dwellers and owners of their territory who have been living in their territories from time immemorial. (I find this unbelievable because migration would have happened and that would best explain the similarity between ours and some Edoid groups.)

The second tradition is that the Urhobos left Edo at the end of the Ogiso dynasty in search of more peaceful locations as a result of “cruelty, animosity and tyranny” which pushed them out of the Benin kingdom. (This is most likely to be)

The third tradition is that the Urhobos migrated from Ile-Ife in Yorubaland. (This is not in any way correct. Benin is tied to Ilé-Ifẹ̀. It best supports the idea that we stemmed from Edo, but from Ilé-Ifẹ̀? I don't think so.)

The fourth is that the Urhobos migrated from
Sudan and Egypt. (This is already discussed extensively, all thanks for you. However, I don't think this is true in any way.)

Besides, night in Urhobo is ASO, and not ASUN.

Urhobo migrated from "AKA" not "EDO". At the time Urhobo left, the Kingdom and land of the Ogisos was then known as "AKA". The terms "EDO" and "BENIN" are recent names which came into use only after the collapse of the Ogiso Dynasty and the subsequent emergence of the Oba Dynasty. The collapse of the "OGISO DYNASTY" and its replacement with "OBA DYNASTY" brought a change of name from "AKA" to "EDO". In fact, the name EDO was believed to have been introduced by Oba Ewuare the Great to immortalized a certain servant who saved his life during his struggle to ascend the Benin royal throne.

IFNOTGOD:
I am an Urhobo from Okpara Inland(Agbon Clan) your piece may have been an eye opener to more research and fact finding about our lineage but i think the theory that we migrated from Egypt is not in anyway right i would rather go with the myth that we migrated from Benin and some part from Igbo but the closeness in language between the Urhobos and their Benin counterpart makes me believe Urhobos and the Bini may have a common heritage and likewise the Igbo speaking tribe judging from dancing step to music.

Urhobo WADO, Urhobo Ovo Ovo

wa yore Urhobo gan, wa siobo ne erare Urhobo.

Omoni me! Mevwe ohwo r'Okpara o! Mavor? Urhu vor oyin vwon nurhe?

Don't take this theory too serious. Ihwo r'Urhobo vren no vi Aka oke r'Ogiso! Urhobos are from Benin, specifically Udo, and we left in different waves. Avwraka (Abraka) was the last clan to leave Benin, at the time of Oba Egbeka.

Urhobos have no Igbo connection as well, like you hinted. However, many Urhobo migrants passed through Igboland on their way to our present locale and we picked up one or two things from them as they too picked from us. Apart from that, some Urhobo communities share borders with Ukwuani towns and picked up some things from them, as they did from us as well.

So, Oniovo, do not take this piece too serious.

Afam4eva:
I think Urhobo and Yoruba are somehow intertwined historically. There's an Urhobo/Itsekiri man that got his genealogy tested and he found out that he was about 60% Benin/Togo which is Yoruba and a smaller percentage of Cameroon/Congo which could be Igbo or any of the groups east of the Niger.

That man in question wasn't a pure Urhobo. He's half Urhobo, Half Itsekiri, thus the reason for the Benin/Togo showing up in his dna result, which indicates his Itsekiri (Yoruboid) ancestry. I doubt if a pure Urhobo person's ancestry would yield that same result, until we see one.

bigfrancis21:


That man in question wasn't a pure Urhobo. He's half Urhobo, Half Itsekiri, thus the reason for the Benin/Togo showing up in his dna result, which indicates his Itsekiri (Yoruboid) ancestry. I doubt if a pure Urhobo person's ancestry would yield that same result, until we see one.

Until we see one, we can't be too sure but I believe that the DNA test will reveal a diversity of roots because some Urhobo clans are peopled by those of non-Bini descent, notably Ijaws, Itsekiri and Igbo. However, the majority may be traced to Bini roots, and Bini DNA may be traced to Dahomey, from where many Yorubas are believed to have originated from.

Whether U Guys Admit It Or Not His Fact Makes Some Sense
Besides Am From Ayogwiri In Auchi [edo State] Clan "Ameh" Means Water

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Nobody – and everybody, Oya! Make All of una show! It's time to learn some history!

What kind of nonsense is this....how can I be a descendant of Nimrod?

urhobo wadoooo!!!! .....love this research

specter:



You position that Urhobos migrated from the old Benin kingdom, is more apt bro.
Urhobo didn't migrate from Sudan or Egypt. If in doubt, majority of the Urhobos still refer to Benin as their ancestral home. Hence when a new oba is to take the throne, all mordern tribe that was part of the ancient kingdom send emissaries to identify with their ancient root.
Most part of delta up to onisha, ifon and owo in ondo state, and the ishekiries all send representatives.

The only part I am not sure of, is the ijaws . I don't know where they migrated from, but I know they are scattered all over Nigeria. From the core north around the lake Chad to the far west of the seme border in Lagos state, to the far south eastern part of akwa ibom and some part of the igbo land.

The funniest thing is that thy speak the same language with different little or no difference as a result of dialects and inter marriage between them and their host communities.
That's just my take.

Are you serious? Like seriously the Ijaws in the core North around the lake Chad area? I am curious.

scionofurhobo:
Urhobo Origin Account and Datelines

The account:

This is the account (presented further below in datelines) of the origin of Urhobo: his ancestors and his descendants, and the lands that they dwelt in; and the years of their births and migrations.

Urhobo descended from Akadianose(h) (pronounced, Akadiano-osseh), also called Accad) the son of the short-lived priest-king of Babel, Eki (Enki) (also known as Enkiroh or Nimrod).

Urhobo’s father was Alka who was born in (U year) BC 2003. He was the son of Isi-oboh.

Isi-oboh was born in BC 2093. His father was Va-edo(h), also called Waedo(h).

Va-edo(h) was born in BC2152 by Akadianose(h).

From Akadianose(h) to Urhobo was five generations. (Akadianose(h) although a Black had his origin from Oyibo, the White race. His own ancestry/genealogy and dates will be considered at the end of the account herein given of Urhobo genealogy, descendants, migrations and dates.)

Urhobo’s siblings were Kai-neh (otherwise called Aka), Isi-yan (otherwise known as Isan or Ishan); Isi-oko (Isoko), a female. They were of one mother. He had other half–sisters: Uku-ani (Kwale) and Ika-ra-derra (Ika) who were sisters, born of the same mother, and Kairoh and Ay-ga-ra (Igarra) whose mothers were different; and half-brothers of whom had different mothers: Isi-yon (Izon), Horre-igbo (Igbo), Ava-sa (Hausa) and Oyoro-oba (Yoruba). Kai-neh’s son was Ubini (Bini, Benin); Ubini was the father of Hyksos Kiyan (Kaiyan) who also ruled Egypt before Hyksos Nefer-edoh (born in BC 1797) of Urhobo lineage overthrew him.

Story for the kids. Igbos and Ijaws are not related in any way. Igbos might be related to Urhobo, Beni, Isoko and Ishan but not with Ijaw. Most Igbos are fair while Ijaws are dark in complexion.

Intermarriage, trading and living in the same geographical area do not entail relationship and same origin as you were trying to put here. Igbos and other groups in south south and Benue state migrated from east while the Ijaws migrated from sierra leone. Totally different from the rest.

ivolt:
All this history trying to link indigenous Nigerian tribes to the middle east
are fake, they stories are made up to fit in with the jewish mythologies in
the bible.
All Nigerian tribes are derived from other Nigerian/Subsaharan African tribes.

i wonder how they ignore all the similarities among neighbouring ethnic groups and jump far away to the middle east to find some little trace of semblance, for petes sake most languages have some similar words, even if the o.p checks some distant languages like japanese he would def find a couple of similar words to urhobo. The humam tongue has a limited amount of sounds, like the english alphabets, which is shared among all languages, thus there's always the possibility of finding similar words among distant unrelated ethnic groups.

Urhobo wadooo...
I'm a proud urhobo boy,from Eku, I really don't agree to this guy's history.

My late Grandpa always told me that the urhobos came from Aka.
I'll go with my Grandpa on this way.

Me de ch'akpo édé ófa urhobo me ka vwan re
Urhobo wado

kpaofame:
Na wa for all this different tori ooo


Anyway who go coach me Urhobo language

I can coach you. Seriously.

fratermathy:


@Efewestern:

This thread is a kind of pseudo-history. The Op is not the first to venture into this waters. We have the likes of Dr. Charles Osume who wrote a book titled The Okpe People, as well as Bobson Gbinije, among others. Their argument is that Urhobos originate directly from Egypt. While the theory is plausible, it is inherently flawed because all Urhobo myths, legends and historians trace our origin to Aka (Benin) or Ife (in the case of some clans).

I only appreciate this thread because it foregrounded Urhobo people. However, everyone should be wary of its content and regard it as purely pseudo-history. Urhobos are from Udo in Ancient Benin and we arrived our current lands at different migratory waves. Some Urhobo clans came from Isoko and some Isoko clans came from Urhobo. That is the standard academic history of Urhobo people.

Can you point which urhobo clan trace it's origin to ife?, haven't heard of such before, even this Egypt stuff is new to me.

I hope they ain't trying to do this Egypt stuff cous of religion, cous am gonna knock someone teeth if he tells me an related to one man from midle east

Efewestern:


Can you point which urhobo clan trace it's origin to ife?, haven't heard of such before, even this Egypt stuff is new to me.

I hope they ain't trying to do this Egypt stuff cous of religion, cous am gonna knock someone teeth if he tells me an related to one man from midle east

Okpe clan traces their origin to Ife. Although some communities within Okpe also believe in the Benin origin.


Don't take this Op seriously.

B2mario:

Story for the kids. Igbos and Ijaws are not related in any way. Igbos might be related to Urhobo, Beni, Isoko and Ishan but not with Ijaw. Most Igbos are fair while Ijaws are dark in complexion.

Intermarriage, trading and living in the same geographical area do not entail relationship and same origin as you were trying to put here. Igbos and other groups in south south and Benue state migrated from east while the Ijaws migrated from sierra leone. Totally different from the rest.

Urhobo, Bini, Ishan and Isoko have more to do with Yoruba than Igbo, actually.

The colour of skin is not a yardstick for knowing the origin of a people. Africans are not fair or white. Some Igbos may have acquired a lighter tone over time due to "contact" with Europeans.

though as an urhobo, father from okpara inland and mother from okwagbe. i have gone through many write up about the origin of my people, this one sound seducive but still difficult to say yes to it. i have been told AKA is my ancestral home, but some of the names the op mention are right, which throw me off balance. seems the binis moved down from Egypt along with some of our ancestors, because we both bear some similar names like efe, ese, e.t.c just like what some one said, it may just be one of those pseudo-history. all in all in might later turn out to be true. urhobo wado, isi wado, urhobo isi kokori mesiaguare