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Re: 2017 Budget: You Are Ignorant, Fashola Blasts Senate, House Spokespersons by HonabFaj(m): 11:03am On Jun 27, 2017
The National Assembly is a failed institution, yes they wanted to get involved in the budget, they should probably set up a task force to monitor all the ministries on how much every ministries had collected,they should go on projects inspection,get details of the cash released from the ministry of finance and make every minister accountable for every month they had collected .
Why will a minister come for project defense you pass him only for you to now insert and slash the monies allocated for some major projects, why did you clear him during the budget defense, NASS should have rejected the budget if they think it's not the right thing to do.
And again is it only borehole, Healthcare center, buying grinding machines, keke napep etc all in the name of consistency projects and empowerment NASS can do with their allocations, can't they also fund a major project in their constituency.
They can't know more than the ministers, what is the job of the ministries if after writing their budget the NASS alter it, their oversight function should be on ensuring all projects are done completely.

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Re: 2017 Budget: You Are Ignorant, Fashola Blasts Senate, House Spokespersons by iaatmguy(m): 11:04am On Jun 27, 2017
yang:
Evil men

Umuekwensu

Some people will be going to church to blame the devil and look for miracle not knowing the devil is alive and he is a minister in the zoo

The baboon will visit in helicopter and you sleep for 2/days at bridgehead

And you say we should remain in the zoo called Nigeria and keep suffering

Fools
if you like kill yourself YOU ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE grin
As you know your Nnamdi Kanu is already romancing the north. The paltry funds giving to your representatives. What was done with it?
Re: 2017 Budget: You Are Ignorant, Fashola Blasts Senate, House Spokespersons by sshalom(m): 11:21am On Jun 27, 2017
It amazing and confusing at the same time that this government is in the majority at the National Assembly.

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Re: 2017 Budget: You Are Ignorant, Fashola Blasts Senate, House Spokespersons by Nobody: 11:32am On Jun 27, 2017
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Re: 2017 Budget: You Are Ignorant, Fashola Blasts Senate, House Spokespersons by duwdu: 11:44am On Jun 27, 2017
seunmsg:
Very brilliant and detailed response. I was particularly concerned by the allegation that the ministry returned billions of Naira meant for the second Niger bridge and it's good that the minister has now debunked that terrible lie. From my experience of how the ministry operates, I knew it was almost impossible for such a thing to happen.

The National assembly just wanted to play to the gallery and deceive gullible Nigerians with their watery attack on the minister. Hopefully, the executive will approach the supreme court and get a definite decision on the issue. It's high time this matter is settled once and for all.

Well said, seunmsg.

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Re: 2017 Budget: You Are Ignorant, Fashola Blasts Senate, House Spokespersons by ideologies(m): 12:13pm On Jun 27, 2017
seunmsg:


The minister can't just walk into ministry of finance and demand for money, that is not how government works.

The ministry of budget and planning controls the budget. All MDAs will submit their capital proposal to them and they will give approval based on the availability of funds and other factors that are best known to them. Once an MDA gets approval from budget and planning, it is then the duty of the finance ministry to release the funds. If there is no approval for a project from budget office, finance can't give you shishi.
who submits the budget to national assembly. bro you are talking from reverse gear.

ministry send proposal to budget and planning. Budget and planning approves sent to assembly, as soon as national assembly approves, and the President signs it becomes a law.

Do you know what a law is?
Re: 2017 Budget: You Are Ignorant, Fashola Blasts Senate, House Spokespersons by Nobody: 12:31pm On Jun 27, 2017
allrightsir:

i am not a minister responsible for critical infrastructure and hence the future of Nigerians. If you have nothing to say in defense of Fashola keep quiet. This is the problem of Nigerians, instead if sticking to issues, you get sentimental and emotive. it's people like you that help keep mediocre people in positions of power, instead of asking what are they really doing and how effective are they.


So who will you recommend that is not mediocre, Barth Nnaji!, I can see through your hypocrisy, pretend to be blind to all he has been doing, in order to undermine him, the Nass reduced his ministries budgetary allocations and that is the crux of the thread, you can't see all he has been doing even from his seminal rebuttal.

What is driving you guys over the bend is that the only super minister is an afonja, I can see through that. He can only deliver within the confines of what is assigned to him, or you want him to give you 24 hours light, when your Gej privatised the Phcn and your militants will not stop to tamper with gas supply.Hypocrisy, bigotry and tribalism the three cancerous growths in the brain of an average ipodian.

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Re: 2017 Budget: You Are Ignorant, Fashola Blasts Senate, House Spokespersons by Nobody: 12:33pm On Jun 27, 2017
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Re: 2017 Budget: You Are Ignorant, Fashola Blasts Senate, House Spokespersons by ebby9z(m): 12:35pm On Jun 27, 2017
dabraska:


Look, if I'm in Fashola's shoes, I'll do exactly what he's doing now. Blaming everyone. But I consider myself as grossly inappropriate and extremely incompetent for the role. So what nonsense is he doing? He's supposed to be competent and experienced. Your job is to make things work and not complain here and there. That was why you were put there.

Don't celebrate mediocrity. The ministry has displayed his gross incompetence and of course, he has to cover up by blaming everyone but himself.

A decay of 57 can not be erased in 2 years. Nigeria has rotten to a dismal level that nothing less than a wholistic and sincere overhaul of the system which tribalism is hindering us from doing.
Re: 2017 Budget: You Are Ignorant, Fashola Blasts Senate, House Spokespersons by seunmsg(m): 12:40pm On Jun 27, 2017
ideologies:
who submits the budget to national assembly. bro you are talking from reverse gear.

ministry send proposal to budget and planning. Budget and planning approves sent to assembly, as soon as national assembly approves, and the President signs it becomes a law.

Do you know what a law is?

Stop discussing what you don't understand. MDA's don't just sit down and expect funds once the budget is signed. They still have to go back to budget office to get approval for their quarterly allocations. They will have to submit a proposal on how they want to spend funds allocated to them in the budget and back it up with advertised projects where necessary. The budget office will then give approval based of availability of funds, priority of the projects and other factors known to them. Ministry of finance will then release funds to the MDA after the approval.

Resources are scarce and budget doesn't get implemented more than 60-70% most times irrespective of whether the budget is a law or not. None of our budgets had performed up to 100% since 1999. So, stop the ignorant belief that ministers can just walk into ministry of finance and demand for funds allocated to their ministry in the budget.

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Re: 2017 Budget: You Are Ignorant, Fashola Blasts Senate, House Spokespersons by 989900: 12:42pm On Jun 27, 2017
Mr. Fashola stated that the focus on contracts by the spokesperson is probably a Freudian slip that reveals his mindset and interests; when indeed he should be focused on developmental projects that strengthen the economy, which is the focus of the Economic Recovery and Growth Plan endorsed by the legislature.

Thank you Mr. Raji for murdering those gluttonous illiterates.

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Re: 2017 Budget: You Are Ignorant, Fashola Blasts Senate, House Spokespersons by Nobody: 12:43pm On Jun 27, 2017
allrightsir:


you have just proved my point: I am Yoruba! Unlike you and other tribal bigots that I have the misfortune of sharing a country and tribe with, your myopia, prejudices, tribal religious and political sentiments stop you from engaging your brains and I repeat, it is precisely because of people like you that morons continue to wander the corridors of power and brilliant Nigerians continue to power economies abroad.


Fashola is incompetent, he was incompetent as governor and he is incompetent as a minister, it's only in Nigeria (thanks to people like you) that someone with such an mediocre track record is put on a pedestal.

How convenient, you are Yoruba all of a sudden! Fashola is incompetent! Are you shiiting me! Point me to any governor in Nigeria living or dead that has surpassed Fashola achievement in governance, with concrete evidence, achievements et al, then we can take this further otherwise mechonu ngi, ndi ara.

N.b. Now recommend one brilliant Nigeria?

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Re: 2017 Budget: You Are Ignorant, Fashola Blasts Senate, House Spokespersons by Nobody: 12:43pm On Jun 27, 2017
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Re: 2017 Budget: You Are Ignorant, Fashola Blasts Senate, House Spokespersons by Nobody: 12:50pm On Jun 27, 2017
allrightsir:


look at my post history, you slowpoke, I have had course to state it many times!!!


Dont let the resources of Lagos deceive you, there are a few governors who would have done multipole times better with the resources of Lagos...Amosun being one.

How typical! Amosun that is all you can come up with, Put your mouth where your money is, You are an embarrassment and you deserve to be shot for such unholy comparison, for such travesty of intellectualism.

You have furnish a name, now supply achievements and see how you will mess up your remaining paltry self esteem.Amosun!

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Re: 2017 Budget: You Are Ignorant, Fashola Blasts Senate, House Spokespersons by ideologies(m): 12:51pm On Jun 27, 2017
seunmsg:


Stop discussing what you don't understand. MDA's don't just sit down and expect funds once the budget is signed. They still have to go back to budget office to get approval for their quarterly allocations. They will have to submit a proposal on how they want to spend funds allocated to them in the budget and back it up with advertised projects where necessary. The budget office will then give approval based of availability of funds, priority of the projects and other factors known to them. Ministry of finance will then release funds to the MDA after the approval.

Resources are scarce and budget doesn't get implemented more than 60-70% most times irrespective of whether the budget is a law or not. None of our budgets had performed up to 100% since 1999. So, stop the ignorant belief that ministers can just walk into ministry of finance and demand for funds allocated to their ministry in the budget.
hahahha none has performed, or you mean none collected up the approved proposed sum.
Re: 2017 Budget: You Are Ignorant, Fashola Blasts Senate, House Spokespersons by Itydee(m): 12:52pm On Jun 27, 2017
Show us the current budget as passed and signed the Coordinating President.
Whats the link to the documents if there is any?
Re: 2017 Budget: You Are Ignorant, Fashola Blasts Senate, House Spokespersons by Nobody: 12:57pm On Jun 27, 2017
allrightsir:


look at my post history, you slowpoke, I have had course to state it many times!!!


Dont let the resources of Lagos deceive you, there are a few governors who would have done multipole times better with the resources of Lagos...Amosun being one.

Any yoruba man, who understands what Awolowo did with limited resources at the regional and federal level should be ashamed of himself for citing Fashola and putting him on a pedestal as an example of good governance. Fashola's govt was a govt of GROSS inflation of contracts and mediocre delivery, I talk from inside knowledge.

You have just be throwing words about without verifiable facts. Furnish us with the achievements of the governors, but you picked awo in your specious attempt to wriggle out of the bind you have enmeshed yourself in. Awo was a premier not a governor.

Simple task of giving me facts figures, achievements et al you failed abysmally. Give me a brilliant Nigeria that should take over from Fashola, still waiting.

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Re: 2017 Budget: You Are Ignorant, Fashola Blasts Senate, House Spokespersons by seunmsg(m): 12:57pm On Jun 27, 2017
ideologies:
hahahha none has performed, or you mean none collected up the approved proposed sum.


When you become a minister (I doubt that happening though), just walk straight to ministry of finance and collect all funds allocated to your ministry in the budget.

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Re: 2017 Budget: You Are Ignorant, Fashola Blasts Senate, House Spokespersons by Nobody: 12:59pm On Jun 27, 2017
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Re: 2017 Budget: You Are Ignorant, Fashola Blasts Senate, House Spokespersons by ideologies(m): 1:01pm On Jun 27, 2017
seunmsg:


When you become a minister (I doubt that happening though), just walk straight to ministry of finance and collect all funds allocated to your ministry in the budget.
monies are remitted per milestone. stop deceiving yourself, most times ministers come back and review the cost and collect more than what was initially proposed. Go and learn that part too
Re: 2017 Budget: You Are Ignorant, Fashola Blasts Senate, House Spokespersons by seunmsg(m): 1:05pm On Jun 27, 2017
ideologies:
monies are remitted per milestone. stop deceiving yourself, most times ministers come back and review the cost and collect more than what was initially proposed. Go and learn that part too

grin grin grin grin grin

You are nothing but a comedian. I am done wasting my time on you.

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Re: 2017 Budget: You Are Ignorant, Fashola Blasts Senate, House Spokespersons by Nobody: 1:08pm On Jun 27, 2017
allrightsir:


I simply said Amosun is doing well for the resources he met on ground. Any mor*n (e.g fashola) will look good when you have the resources of Lagos and an electorate like yourself.

you are clearly a nonentity not worthy of further engagement, you are here to reinforce your entrenched beleifs not to debate facts or be objective but I will leave you with this fact if this will not get you to think, nothing will.....Lagos is twice the size of Ghana in terms of economy, it's population is 2/3rds of ghana, and it's land mass will fit into ghana 100 times. So if you are educated and intelligent enough to understand the implications of these stats, come again and tell me Fashola was an exceptional governor.

The reason why Fashola is failing now is because he was always overated thanks to dumb asses like you

Cry me a river! Fashola made the economy of Lagos that viable and stop insulting our sensibility with the obvious.

In the absence of sense and having failed to supply facts and all, you have resulted to the eloquence of dog. Unlike you I know abuse are imaginary and dont give a hoot.

Now you want to beat a retreat, having been confronted with the hiatus in your dumb submissions, you now want to pull a skedaddle on me, Yorubas dont pontificate like you, they are sensible, rational and intelligent.

You can't even humour me with just a brilliant Nigeria to take over from Fashola the slayer, yet you have the temerity to say poo to me.

Your stupidity is an embarrassment to stupid people. Now beat it.

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Re: 2017 Budget: You Are Ignorant, Fashola Blasts Senate, House Spokespersons by Nobody: 1:19pm On Jun 27, 2017
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Re: 2017 Budget: You Are Ignorant, Fashola Blasts Senate, House Spokespersons by deomelo: 1:29pm On Jun 27, 2017
Nosaghae:

And you think that the minister cannot play to the gallery and deceive gullible nigerians


Stating facts and educating the uneducated lawmakers is quiet different from playing to the gallery.

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Re: 2017 Budget: You Are Ignorant, Fashola Blasts Senate, House Spokespersons by deomelo: 1:31pm On Jun 27, 2017
fyneguy:


oh my God!

Didn't you read the part where he said the high water levels halted the works?



They can not read and comprehend simple English.

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Re: 2017 Budget: You Are Ignorant, Fashola Blasts Senate, House Spokespersons by natznext(m): 1:51pm On Jun 27, 2017
ideologies:
you should be asking y fashola is the one minister complaining , don't u think so.


The project was inflated simple.

imagine 17bn for EIA alone

Do you think if I submit and inflated budget to you and it was slashed with counter facts and figures, I'll have the audacity to keep coming at you like that?
Re: 2017 Budget: You Are Ignorant, Fashola Blasts Senate, House Spokespersons by deomelo: 2:01pm On Jun 27, 2017
luvinhubby:
Fashola has just displayed the bigot in him :

You had 40 billion for Lagos - Ibadan and 12 billion for 2nd Niger bridge respectively in 2016 budget, you requested and had 26 billion released to you for Lag - Iba but did not request for a dime for 2nd Niger bridge, also, the NASS said that both projects has private partnership involvement and in your statement you said you wanted to complete all projects that you met which informed your decision to seek for total govt budgetary spending for the Lag - Iba road and you are still waiting for concessionaires to raise funding for 2nd Niger bridge.

Thank God for the NASS that is here to checkmate the excesses of political bigots like Fashola.


Yes, they checkmated Fashola by slashing and taking away your village bridge funds to increase their own pay and budget.

Shouldn't your anger and complaints be against the thieves who just stole your money and never to return it? Even sef, you just cried that the minister requested little money for thew bridge, but you are defending the lawmakers and clowns for slashing what you just asserted wasn't enough so how exactly the the lawmakers action helped you and facilitated the construction?


Also, are you saying Fashola should do abracadabra or manufacture concessionaires to fund the PPP part of the bridge and shouldn't you be asking yourself why concessionaires are not rushing to invest their funds in the bridge project?

Maybe it's not economically sound to them or too risky or even don't want to operate in that environment so how exactly is this Fashola's fault.


I don't even see you jokers crying when jona fooled you with fake project kickoff and end up doing nothing, no bridge, no concession and no money.

Fashola built so many bridges without having to deal with these federal clowns and thieves and he built still the best bridge in Nigeria today while your own useless and incompetent governors sat on their hands for decades crying over a common village bridge they could have built on their own, concession, toll and use collected funds for future developments and other projects in the SE, but no, the FG is going to build the bridge and it's going to be a FG bridge and you are going to pay for to use it for 30 years, but guess what, Lekki Ikoyi bridge is a gold mine, it belongs to the LASG and they are making money off the bridge to maintain the bridge with and to fund other infrastructure projects in Lagos state.

This is what your useless governors should have done, but they are so lazy and incompetent, they want the FG to always brush their teeth and tie their shoes for them while they sit on their assesss and do nothing.

Fortunately for us, we know you people reason and formulate your rancid views based on tribalism, hatred and bigotry instead of facts, sane and rational logic.

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Re: 2017 Budget: You Are Ignorant, Fashola Blasts Senate, House Spokespersons by deomelo: 2:10pm On Jun 27, 2017
allrightsir:


So it is fashola that made the economy of Lagos what it is, not the fact that that terrorism drove the abokis away from the North and kidnapping from the east as well as the fact the lagos has always been the economic capital of Lagos with the sea and airport. Why is it that all the new key in industries in the last 6 yers are going to Ogun not Lagos?

I shame myself by arguing with r*tarded minds. Deisel fumes from Lagos generators have messed up your brain


So, Fashola was never the governor of Lagos state? grin

Fashola did not grow the economy of Lagos state and even boosted the IGR from N500 million/month to N23 billion/month

Fashola did not deliver more projects than all the governors in Nigeria combined. grin

Fashola did not build many hospitals, many roads, many bridges, 15 waterworks, 30 skills centers, 5 power plants, tons of schools, 10 maternity centers and so on, but Lagos as the Federal capital built all that and this is the reason and excuse for your village leaders not doing anything.. grin



You ipobitches fit kill pesin with lafta I wear.


grin grin grin

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Re: 2017 Budget: You Are Ignorant, Fashola Blasts Senate, House Spokespersons by deomelo: 2:15pm On Jun 27, 2017
Dumaknesset:



So who will you recommend that is not mediocre, Barth Nnaji!, I can see through your hypocrisy, pretend to be blind to all he has been doing, in order to undermine him, the Nass reduced his ministries budgetary allocations and that is the crux of the thread, you can't see all he has been doing even from his seminal rebuttal.

What is driving you guys over the bend is that the only super minister is an afonja, I can see through that. He can only deliver within the confines of what is assigned to him, or you want him to give you 24 hours light, when your Gej privatised the Phcn and your militants will not stop to tamper with gas supply.Hypocrisy, bigotry and tribalism the three cancerous growths in the brain of an average ipodian.



Well said.

Give this poster a round of applause.

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Re: 2017 Budget: You Are Ignorant, Fashola Blasts Senate, House Spokespersons by Nobody: 2:16pm On Jun 27, 2017
allrightsir:


So it is fashola that made the economy of Lagos what it is, not the fact that that terrorism drove the abokis away from the North and kidnapping from the east as well as the fact the lagos has always been the economic capital of Lagos with the sea and airport. Why is it that all the new key in industries in the last 6 yers are going to Ogun not Lagos?

I shame myself by arguing with r*tarded minds. Deisel fumes from Lagos generators have messed up your brain


This your post revealed you as a pretentious idiot, see reasons you ascribed for the viability of Lagos State, boko Haram, kidnapping I mean you just revealed your 2 digit IQ, I see why you think Fashola has not performed, you don't live in Lagos.

Your ignorance nevertheless is not permitted, you should stay I whatever shithole you live and don't discus civilization with your better.

You can hardly string up a sentence without insult, you know who indulge in such, pained defeated slowpoke, trapezing trolloping maypole, air headed buffoon and silly and stupendously pipsqueak.

You don't know shit and you wear your ignorance like a medal brandishing it for all to see.

You have never made sense in all your post and doubt if you will ever make sense till you die, now go and hang yourself with your shoe lace.

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Re: 2017 Budget: You Are Ignorant, Fashola Blasts Senate, House Spokespersons by ideologies(m): 2:31pm On Jun 27, 2017
natznext:


Do you think if I submit and inflated budget to you and it was slashed with counter facts and figures, I'll have the audacity to keep coming at you like that?
yes, you will because your plan to a masse wealth have been cut short.

You Will behave just like fashola to gain public sympathy wink
Re: 2017 Budget: You Are Ignorant, Fashola Blasts Senate, House Spokespersons by Nobody: 2:34pm On Jun 27, 2017
1.“The Ministry of Finance has not yet released any cash for the Second Niger Bridge, so no money was returned.”

“Three phases of Early Works of piling and foundation was approved and financed by the previous government [/b]in the hope that a concession will finally be issued, which has not happened because concessionaires have not been able to raise finance.

One lie always cancels the other with these APC goons!!!

2.Also responding to the issues that the budget for the Mambila Power Project was slashed because it contained [b]a “whooping N17 billion” for Environmental Impact Assessment (EIA)
, the minister said there was indeed a mis-description of that particular Expenditure Head...


The sum is still whooping in my head. The borehole master doing what he does best!!!! There is nothing like a 'Mis-description', it's not even am English word.

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