Obi1kenobi:


Yes, they're the ones soliciting your politicians to cart away billions of dollars and live in opulence in their white countries. You're not ashamed at how many corruption cases (Halliburton, Malabu oil deal, laundering cases of the likes of Ibori, Alamieseigha, Diezani etc) that they've prosecuted (or are currently prosecuting) people for in their countries while the same criminals escape justice in Nigeria and people like Ibori are greeted like the Pope in their home states after they were treated like common criminals abroad. You no dey shame at all, at all. I pity people like you consumed by hatred and resentment of a vastly more successful civilization instead of focusing on the roots of the rot in your own society.

And no, they're not exploiting you. Africa in general is a basketcase for Western countries. They send you subsidized medicine for disease-ravaged populations with Polio, HIV etc. They send food aid when your people are starving and your hopeless countrymen find ways to divert the aid: like the IDP camps in the North East that divert foreign NGO's aid. Or the scumbags that diverted Saudi Arabia's food aid that found its way into the markets. They help you exploit your resources since after decades of independence, your country still lacks the technical capacity to even explore and exploit its oil and can't even refine its own product. Millions of economic refugees are risking their lives to cross the Mediterranean into Europe and become liabilities and eyesores on their streets. I blame the Italians, Greeks, Spanish people etc who go to rescue and provide shelter, clothes, food and medicine to arrivals before sending them on to plague the rest of Europe. Maybe if they provided food and sent every boat they catch all the way back, people may learn their lesson. We can't even help matters when we also breed like rats with exploding populations. Several economic projections predict this continent will be a huge scourge on the planet over the next century and we're sitting on a keg of gunpowder ready to explode. Instead of looking inward at ways to tackle the crisis, continue pointing your jealous fingers at people who can competently run their countries and blaming them for your failures.

ObiKenobi, You are too educated and knowledgeable to be on this forum, arguing with some unreasonable folks. You see, I do not know if this is peculiar to nairaland but I sometimes wonder and find it absolutely strange, how supposed educated folks sound so illogical. With all the wanton stealing that has characterized and continue to plague governance in Nigeria since independence and for people to still think it intelligent to blame the British is absolute insanity, I tell you. Keep educating them!

blueseacats:
they are still in South Africa. In fact they control the economy their and South Africa is way way way better than us.

In another thread by 9888419,the question was asked 'what would south africa look like without the whites?' and I opined that it wouldn't be as successful as it is today.This same op you quoted countered it.His assertions always fly in the face of reason and objectivity.He argues from passion only.

Think hard my friend on this : Who is the ultimate beneficiary of our politicians carting away billions to white countries? Nigerians? or the same white countries that are still exploiting ruling us.

Malabu oil block as a case in point, they stole acquired our $1 trilllion for less than $1bn and have not even paid that to us yet.

Is it not the white countries that is currently shielding Diezani from prosecution for looting? Even the sham prosecutions of the likes of Ibori ( who may in reality not even be corrupt) has not resulted in the white countries refunding any loot deposited in their banks.

All the "selfless help" white countries have been giving Africa over more than 60years is very odd in that it seems that the more they exploit "help" us, the worst we are doing and the more economic benefit they gain from us.

I am sure it was through their "selfless help" that they miraclously acquired our $1Trn Malabu oil block virtually for free.

I haven't read through this thread I know that there would be some people making comments implying that white rule is a blessing.
Are we not still under white rule? so where is the blessing in it? Our enslavement and exploitation over centuries is a blessing?

I am thankful that there are great teachers like rossikki here to enlighten the masses.

Obi1kenobi:


Yes, they're the ones soliciting your politicians to cart away billions of dollars and live in opulence in their white countries. You're not ashamed at how many corruption cases (Halliburton, Malabu oil deal, laundering cases of the likes of Ibori, Alamieseigha, Diezani etc) that they've prosecuted (or are currently prosecuting) people for in their countries while the same criminals escape justice in Nigeria and people like Ibori are greeted like the Pope in their home states after they were treated like common criminals abroad. You no dey shame at all, at all. I pity people like you consumed by hatred and resentment of a vastly more successful civilization instead of focusing on the roots of the rot in your own society.

And no, they're not exploiting you. Africa in general is a basketcase for Western countries. They send you subsidized medicine for disease-ravaged populations with Polio, HIV etc. They send food aid when your people are starving and your hopeless countrymen find ways to divert the aid: like the IDP camps in the North East that divert foreign NGO's aid. Or the scumbags that diverted Saudi Arabia's food aid that found its way into the markets. They help you exploit your resources since after decades of independence, your country still lacks the technical capacity to even explore and exploit its oil and can't even refine its own product. Millions of economic refugees are risking their lives to cross the Mediterranean into Europe and become liabilities and eyesores on their streets. I blame the Italians, Greeks, Spanish people etc who go to rescue and provide shelter, clothes, food and medicine to arrivals before sending them on to plague the rest of Europe. Maybe if they provided food and sent every boat they catch all the way back, people may learn their lesson. We can't even help matters when we also breed like rats with exploding populations. Several economic projections predict this continent will be a huge scourge on the planet over the next century and we're sitting on a keg of gunpowder ready to explode. Instead of looking inward at ways to tackle the crisis, continue pointing your jealous fingers at people who can competently run their countries and blaming them for your failures.

blueseacats:
they are still in South Africa. In fact they control the economy their and South Africa is way way way better than us.

South Africa is ''way way better than us'' because unlike in Nigeria, the white colonialists reinvested into the local economy the monies from export profits right from the first day they took over that country in the early 1820s.

Because they was a very large white settler population there. Attracted to the country by its temperate weather I guess. They saw the country as their own. So they built the first university there in 1829. The University of Cape Town.

University of the Witwatersrand was established in 1896.

Stellenbosch University 1903.

University of Pretoria 1908.

The same British at the very same time in Nigeria, were busy on a very different trajectory based on total extraction of natural resources and very minimal input back into the Nigerian economy. This was how they functioned till the likes of Nnamdi Azikiwe, Obafemi Awolowo, and Peter Enahoro among others said, ENOUGH.

And thankfully so.

It was only after they left that Nigeria began trying to develop. Establishing our first university in 1962.

Our first power station 1964. Kainji Dam.

South Africa's first power station? Try the 1880s!!

I mean, how the hell do you expect Nigeria and South Africa to be on the same technological or even socio-political level?

It's like comparing a man to a child. They started long before we were even on the map. They've been producing highly trained engineers, scientists, urban planners, doctors, architects, jurists, politicians, pilots, technicians, and bankers in their thousands for at least a century before we started in Nigeria. Once you study the history of both nations, you see it makes no sense comparing ourselves with them.

What we need to do is just respect ourselves and move forward as smoothly as possible. But don't expect us to function as efficiently as South Africa anytime soon, because the truth is, we're still learning how to build a modern nation, compared to them.

A lot of excellent points. The whites are also actively sabotaging our development, by eliminating any patriotic leader we have in Africa who tries to fix their country.
It is no coincidence that Buhari is the 3rd Nigerian leader in 19 years to be lost to illness, because like Yaradua and Abacha before him, he was trying to fix Nigeria.

TheKingdom:
The OP is just ranting, because simple research would have shown him that the Nigger Area was never intended to be a "Great Nation" like England or France or Canada. Oyibo put not just us, but many folks together to stagnate their development and exploit them. That plan is still very much in effect today, with total mind control on Blacks world wide.

Do you wonder why Nigerian/Nigger Area music videos have better quality than Nigerian Movies? Because Oyibo know they can get into your mind by the music of Davido and many talentless baboons who are encouraging promiscuity, Hennessy, and lack of patriotism.

Do you know why the EPL is so treasured by those in the Nigger Area, or Lace weaves/wigs?

Do you know why many of our girls are giving birth at record expenses abroad? Or even why the President goes abroad for common ear infection?

We don't know who we are, and continue to accept the fake "Nigerian" concept while the world laughs at us and shakes their head at the little dumb black Niggers who cant get it right.

GenBuhari:
A lot of excellent points. The whites are also actively sabotaging our development, by eliminating any patriotic leader we have in Africa who tries to fix their country.
It is no coincidence that Buhari is the 3rd Nigerian leader in 19 years to be lost to illness, because like Yaradua and Abacha before him, he was trying to fix Nigeria.

Abacha trying to fix Nigeria by looting Billions? What for heaven's sake are you smoking?

D reason is simple:they didn't come to develop this place rather, they were here to get raw materials for their industries

Abacha never looted, it was malicious propaganda from the same white nations he rejected IMF and World Bank loans from.

freshest4live:

Abacha trying to fix Nigeria by looting Billions? What for heaven's sake are you smoking?

GenBuhari:
Abacha never looted, it was malicious propaganda from the same white nations he rejected IMF and World Bank loans from.

-Are you for real?

GenBuhari:
Abacha never looted, it was malicious propaganda from the same white nations he rejected IMF and World Bank loans from.

"......Abacha never looted...."


This is one reason why the North will never progress


Defenders of evil and corruption.



So all the Abacha money recovered from overseas, what were the various monies meant for.?

maisauki:
D reason is simple:they didn't come to develop this place rather, they were here to get raw materials for their industries

Very succinctly and simply put.

Until this very day nobody can trace the so called Abacha loot that was supposedly refunded.

Also which court in Nigeria convicted Abacha of looting those billions? was his "conviction" not purely by our imperialist controlled news media?

Warship:
So all the Abacha money recovered from overseas, what were the various monies meant for.?

PDJT:

-Are you for real?

GenBuhari:
Until this very day nobody can trace the so called Abacha loot that was supposedly refunded.

Also which court in Nigeria convicted Abacha of looting those billions? was his "conviction" not purely by our imperialist controlled news media?

You are very funny


Since the days of Obasanjo, Nigeria has been recovering Abacha's loots



Abacha is a thief roasting in hell.



Mark my words


Arewa republic will never prosper with defenders of evil like you.

Warship:




You are very funny


Since the days of Obasanjo, Nigeria has been recovering Abacha's loots



Abacha is a thief roasting in hell.



Mark my words


Arewa republic will never prosper with defenders of evil like you.

I wonder why someone would defend Abacha.

GenBuhari:
Until this very day nobody can trace the so called Abacha loot that was supposedly refunded.

Also which court in Nigeria convicted Abacha of looting those billions? was his "conviction" not purely by our imperialist controlled news media?

Abacha was a theif and a bloody dictator.

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GenBuhari:
Until this very day nobody can trace the so called Abacha loot that was supposedly refunded.

Also which court in Nigeria convicted Abacha of looting those billions? was his "conviction" not purely by our imperialist controlled news media?

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Warship:




You are very funny


Since the days of Obasanjo, Nigeria has been recovering Abacha's loots



Abacha is a thief roasting in hell.



Mark my words


Arewa republic will never prosper with defenders of evil like you.

Just look at what the guy is saying. I pray this country divides.

those recovery cannot be proven as there is no trace of them in our treasury coffers.And even if a little was paid into our coffers, which court of competent jurisdiction in Nigeria ruled that Abacha looted those funds

Warship:




You are very funny


Since the days of Obasanjo, Nigeria has been recovering Abacha's loots



Abacha is a thief roasting in hell.



Mark my words


Arewa republic will never prosper with defenders of evil like you.

Rossikki:


Construction of Kainji Dam began in 1964, on the orders of Prime Minister Sir Abubakar Tafawa Balewa, and was completed in 1968

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kainji_Dam


What ''coal plants'' are you referring to?

Have a name?

really, did not know that. but what were we using before then. also without them you would probably still be farming with hoe and cutlass. no doctors no lawyers

which Nigerian court ruled on that? Or is media propaganda now your bible?

freshest4live:

Abacha was a theif and a bloody dictator.

Address the issue, which Nigerian court investigated and ruled Abacha the looter of so called Abacha loot?

Abacha was no looter.

tensazangetsu20:

Just look at what the guy is saying. I pray this country divides.

Are we not still farming with cutlass and hoe even today, so how has the white man helped us? Did we not have our own doctors and lawyers before arrival of the genocidal white devils?

mikolo80:
really, did not know that. but what were we using before then. also without them you would probably still be farming with hoe and cutlass. no doctors no lawyers

GenBuhari:
Are we not still farming with cutlass and hoe even today, so how has the white man helped us? Did we not have our own doctors and lawyers before arrival of the genocidal white devils?

which doctors I hope it's not witch doctors you're referring too. abi the ones that were killing twins. please argue not just for the sake of argument. how many lawyers or engineers did you have before colonisation

blueseacats:
they are still in South Africa. In fact they control the economy their and South Africa is way way way better than us.

I dont know if this alters ur logic but, a little point of order:
Remember, south africa was a colony settled by europeans just like USA, Canada, and Australia! It was marked out for development as they live there. Developed with resources from other areas.

Let us not bother replying the trolls. They only derail the conversation.

Trolls: If u dont know, or are not sure, then u ask or google it, instead of aimlessly countering reasoned arguments without equivalent logical points.

The basis of any viable conversation is reason, logic, and enough intellectual honesty to abandon or modify cherished opinions in the light of contradictory evidence.

You have been miseducated to believe that the black man was living like a caveman when the whites came. It just is not the case.
We were more advanced in many areas than the white man, but the victors or war gets to write history. You are simply brainwashed by the version of history written by the whites.

mikolo80:
which doctors I hope it's not witch doctors you're referring too. abi the ones that were killing twins. please argue not just for the sake of argument. how many lawyers or engineers did you have before colonisation

GenBuhari:
You have been miseducated to believe that the black man was leaving like a caveman when the white came. It just is not the case.
We were more advanced in many areas than the white man, but the victors or war gets to write history. You are simply brainwashed by the version of history written by the whites.

mention 3 advancements
at least it wasn't up to Arabic Japanese or Chinese advancement and yet all these copied the whiten man's ships gunpowder airplanes automobiles technology. name the superior tech you had

mikolo80:
which doctors I hope it's not witch doctors you're referring too. abi the ones that were killing twins. please argue not just for the sake of argument. how many lawyers or engineers did you have before colonisation

The fact that you've reduced pre-colonial African medicine to "witch doctors" shows how tragically miseducated, ignorant, and brainwashed you are, courtesy of colonialism. One of the most tragic consequences of colonialism was that while the whites were looting your land, they made sure to imbibe in you a sense of worthlessness and racial inferiority, by belittling your culture and practices, to prevent you from challenging their theft. You need to shed your slave mentality, conduct some proper research into your heritage, and quit being a doormat and yes man for racists and neo nazis.

mikolo80:
really, did not know that. but what were we using before then. also without them you would probably still be farming with hoe and cutlass. no doctors no lawyers

Without us THEY would have no lawyers and doctors. It was their looting of Africa, India, and the Americas that allowed them to develop their professions, including doctors and lawyers. Before Europe started their looting spree, they were the most backward region of the entire earth. So without us, they would be nothing. In fact, it was black African moors who guided them out of the barbarity of their Dark Ages into their so called Renaissance. Before that, the black African ancient Egyptians allowed the Greeks to learn the rudiments of philosophy, engineering, architecture, writing, medicine, mathematics and astronomy. I don't expect you to know any of this because you are a victim of colonial whitewashing of history designed to keep you ignorant of your huge African contribution to modern civilisation, and subservient to them.

The the engineering and construction of pyramids and the mathematics involved still baffle white engineers until this very day.

We were also ahead in the science of metallurgy.

mikolo80:
mention 3 advancements
at least it wasn't up to Arabic Japanese or Chinese advancement and yet all these copied the whiten man's ships gunpowder airplanes automobiles technology. name the superior tech you had

For the OP to say 50 years is too small to be a developed nation is extremely ridiculous. It is mentality like this that make me cringe. The OP and his ilks have never taken responsibility for their actions, always blaming people. I implore OP to Google "Lee Kuan Yew".

Gerrard59:
For the OP to say 50 years is too small to be a developed nation is extremely ridiculous. It is mentality like this that make me cringe. The OP and his ilks have never taken responsibility for their actions, always blaming people. I implore OP to Google "Lee Kuan Yew".

We have dealt with the Asian Tiger phenomenon. If you are as bright as you make out, you would have read the thread prior to contributing.