mrszez:
Well , i cant change the past but try not to correct my mistake now having learnt so much from this forum, i have been really encouraged to do it myself . i would have love to hear from people that have been in similar situation and how they went about it when reapplied. .
Thanks for your time.

The solution to a lie is the truth. Abi is it not? Fill the correct details and my take is always to draw the attention of the vo to it by yourself. Don't wait for him to sight it. He may or may not. He may and even decide to ignore. But when u bring it up you are sure it's going into the interview notes. Whether u get it or not this time you have done the right thing

aremso:

@ LadyG. I think the error came from me from the first interview wen we went together we got married in dec 2015 and i had filled the form in july to book the slot and in the form i stated that we had married since we would have been married by the following january 4th, 2006. which was the time we booked. so i think we time of marriage we told them contradict what was filled in the form. the interview goes does.

VO= good morning
Me= good moring
vo= can i have your passport
me&wife = handed the passport to him
vo= why do u want to go us
me= to have our honey moon
vo= where do u work,
me= i wrk in so and so
vo = can you tell me about your job
me= i told me
the vo the bombarded my wife with question

Vo= madam what do u do.
wife= a teacher
vo= wen did you guys get married
both= we told him
vo= what type of marriage
both= church wedding
vo= what date
both= we told him he then checked his computer for some minutes and faced us again
vo= whre are you going in the us
me= we had booked an hotel
vo= why do you chose to book the hotel in that place
me= started to tell the whole grammer cos i never prepared for that answer
vo= Have you guys travelled b4
both= no this our first time
Vo face his computer and type for some second and the said he is sorry our visa is denied the handed over our passport to us.
the subsequent once that my wife attended, it was she alone that went inside the embassy. but i dont give up on things unless i dont have resources to pursue that course. some one is about to give us an invitation from uk, should we go to uk 1st and then reaaply at the us embassy? kindly advice. my wife went to dubai after the first interview but am yet to travel to any where

I said it before. I'll say it again. If the issue was misrepresentation , acquiring travel history does not solve it.
I do not understand the transcript. Did u guys misrepresent or not. A simple yes or no would do

LadyGuinivere:

I said it before. I'll say it again. If the issue was misrepresentation , acquiring travel history does not solve it.
I do not understand the transcript. Did u guys misrepresent or not. A simple yes or no would do

there was nothing like misrepresentation cos she was no pregnant as at the time we went to the embassy

nikkycool:
Ok thanks,we will either apply as family which I dont know if it has ever been given or we apply alone without the children in December.

I think you should worry about what has change in your circumstances... Are you planning to improve your travel history or something good has happened to you job wise... after this you can worry about the kids.

cosade:


Obviously the two visas are different. However, it is also not in doubt that non immigrant visa applicants from developing countries are deemed to be immigrants, by both countries. The onus is on the applicant to demonstrate strong ties to his/her home country, or of residence. For this reason, logical inferences can be made from decision of one, on another.

Then you're not in the position to tell him they won't give him instead encourage him.

seyewest:
Then you're not in the position to tell him they won't give him instead encourage him.

I am not a VO so I couldn't have told him/her (or anyone for that matter) that he/she will not be granted visa.

The person specifically asked if he/she should apply for US visit visa, and I responded he/she should not waste 64k. He/She wanted an honest opinion that is why he/she came to a public forum to ask the question.

As a Rotarian, I am guided by the 4Way Test in all that I do.
1. Is it the Truth?
2. Is it fair to all concerned?
3. Will it build goodwill and better friendships? and
4. Will it be beneficial to all concerned?

I would have violated all the tests above, if I had encouraged him/her to apply when I knew he/she didn't have strong ties, a position logically inferenced from three denials for a U.K visitor' visa.

If I can be allowed to wade into this argument.
The British have a different way of assessing visa applications in that they rely on documents. Whereas the Americans basically rely on the US 160 and body language. People have been denied UK visas but given US visas. My friends are perfect examples. Reason being that a particular bank lodgment seemed suspicious.
They crossed over and applied for the US visa a week or 2 after and got it. Married couple with an adopted kid and no travel history, traveling without the kid. What's my point? What cooks the egg in the UK may not cook it in the US.
That said, no applicant should depend on sentiments. Every applicant should objectively self assess. I see a lot of people here unwilling to tell themselves the truth and unable to swallow the bitter pill. That's what makes a Lotta folks "package " and then get upset that their documents weren't looked at.
So the OP is not asking the right question. He should rather ask himself: why did the UK deny me? Are the grounds reasonable? Can those grounds be considered by the US as valid grounds for refusal?
Do I have reasonable ties?
These are questions that only he can answer after extensive research/ reading this thread

I was introduced to d platform by a friend, I my wife and a daughter of 2 years was denied a USA visit visa on 24th July 2017. Although I had other two children I did not included in d application then. My question is that I am thinking of reapplying alone or should I include other children in these recent application am applying in December 2017 . Please the house advice will be appreciated. I must sincerely give kudos to you guys for advices so far that has benefited a lot people

But LadyGuinivere just answered your question naa why are you reposting it. If you can't accept the truth then follow your instinct biko....

daddyfisayo2015:

I was introduced to d platform by a friend, I my wife and a daughter of 2 years was denied a USA visit visa on 24th July 2017. Although I had other two children I did not included in d application then. My question is that I am thinking of reapplying alone or should I include other children in these recent application am applying in December 2017 . Please the house advice will be appreciated. I must sincerely give kudos to you guys for advices so far that has benefited a lot people

LadyGuinivere:
If I can be allowed to wade into this argument.
The British have a different way of assessing visa applications in that they rely on documents. Whereas the Americans basically rely on the US 160 and body language. People have been denied UK visas but given US visas. My friends are perfect examples. Reason being that a particular bank lodgment seemed suspicious.
They crossed over and applied for the US visa a week or 2 after and got it. Married couple with an adopted kid and no travel history, traveling without the kid. What's my point? What cooks the egg in the UK may not cook it in the US.
That said, no applicant should depend on sentiments. Every applicant should objectively self assess. I see a lot of people here unwilling to tell themselves the truth and unable to swallow the bitter pill. That's what makes a Lotta folks "package " and then get upset that their documents weren't looked at.
So the OP is not asking the right question. He should rather ask himself: why did the UK deny me? Are the grounds reasonable? Can those grounds be considered by the US as valid grounds for refusal?
Do I have reasonable ties?
These are questions that only he can answer after extensive research/ reading this thread

Madam, we are on the same page. I once expressed sentiments for UK approach here. My response was to a specific question and not generalised.

cosade:


I agree with you absolutely, even same for the other non immigrant visa (visit/tourist) whereby they (UK High Comm.) take their time to review and verify documents submitted, instead of the "two minutes harassments" people face in US Embassy standing up with no privacy.

My opinion (I may be wrong) is that it would be easier for someone with a steady job and reasonable income to get U.K visitor's visa than this same person getting US visit visa if he's not able to articulate his travel plan well before the VO in a minute or two. Some people are just crowd shy.

Otunoba 15, learn to read well my post is different from the issue lady G addressed. Otunoba 15, keep your view to yourself biko

Please ladies and gentlemen kindly help me out on this, I and my husband will be going on vacation by november to the US but we want o use the opportunity to visit his sister in the UK briefly for may be 2days, can we get transit visa if we fly via airline that will pass through UK and how should we go about it? Thanks

cosade:


Obviously the two visas are different. However, it is also not in doubt that non immigrant visa applicants from developing countries are deemed to be immigrants, by both countries. The onus is on the applicant to demonstrate strong ties to his/her home country, or of residence. For this reason, logical inferences can be made from decision of one, on another.

Cosade, let's not be so quick to judge or conclude, as we not VOs and the mind these people operate is very different and shocking... Several denials in one country does not mean another won't grant it, every country to its own policy.. It may interest you to know that the VO will even be impressed that the OP brought the same passport with denial stamps and yet get approved, hence his/her ties is strong
Let's not Also forget that is God that grants visas and not man, many with travel experience has been refused and many with Virgin passport had been approved
God is the giver

Good day great people,
I new here.pls I am female and currently not married. I applied late last year and was refused . I do want to apply again but I duno if it is because I am not married cos everything else looked good. Pls I need your advise or should I just go through an agent?

vanbaby:
Good day great people,
I new here.pls I am female and currently not married. I applied late last year and was refused . I do want to apply again but I duno if it is because I am not married cos everything else looked good. Pls I need your advise or should I just go through an agent?

Yes you should...

I can assure you that you'll be denied again and you'll be back asking of how to correct "mistakes" on your application.

vanbaby:
Good day great people,
I new here.pls I am female and currently not married. I applied late last year and was refused . I do want to apply again but I duno if it is because I am not married cos everything else looked good. Pls I need your advise or should I just go through an agent?

VOs don't like the use of agents, they believe you can do it yourself,if you are now married, if you have a good paying job, if you have a child or optional, your purpose of travel and most importantly tell the Lord in prayers

seyewest:

I think you should worry about what has change in your circumstances... Are you planning to improve your travel history or something good has happened to you job wise... after this you can worry about the kids.

Thanks for this questions.But please educate me,apart from improving travel history what else could mean changes in our circumstances?we have good jobs,have kids,own our house although we didn't include that hubby has a factory he runs aside from his profession.Could that count as change for us?kindly advice.Thank you.

TWoods:


Yes you should...

I can assure you that you'll be denied again and you'll be back asking of how to correct "mistakes" on your application.

I think this is rude and very unnecessary... you can give your own 2 cents without trolling other people.. I wonder why Nigerians are like this... and just so you know, I am not judging based on this post only.. I read most of your replies to people and it never disappoints me... very sad!

Rachie83:
Please ladies and gentlemen kindly help me out on this, I and my husband will be going on vacation by november to the US but we want o use the opportunity to visit his sister in the UK briefly for may be 2days, can we get transit visa if we fly via airline that will pass through UK and how should we go about it? Thanks

If you intend to stop over in UK you have to get a UK visa. I. E go to the embassy. Do all the sereree and and get the visa.
The UK visit visa thread however is the appropriate thread for this question

vanbaby:
Good day great people,
I new here.pls I am female and currently not married. I applied late last year and was refused . I do want to apply again but I duno if it is because I am not married cos everything else looked good. Pls I need your advise or should I just go through an agent?

Madam. What will the agent do for you? Please I humbly ask for a reply.
Clearly u are yet to understand the concept of "ties" or maybe you do and that's why u want to use an agent to " create " one.
If USA denied you, there are so many other countries. Have u visited any? Try that first with your true details. Show the US u can be trusted with a visa

LadyGuinivere:

If you intend to stop over in UK you have to get a UK visa. I. E go to the embassy. Do all the sereree and and get the visa.
The UK visit visa thread however is the appropriate thread for this question

Thanks sis

LadyGuinivere:

Madam. What will the agent do for you? Please I humbly ask for a reply.
Clearly u are yet to understand the concept of "ties" or maybe you do and that's why u want to use an agent to " create " one.
If USA denied you, there are so many other countries. Have u visited any? Try that first with your true details. Show the US u can be trusted with a visa

I have visited U.K and Dubai.the usa refusal doesn't say the reason why you are rejected I am assuming it is because I am not married. I presume an agent will help scrutinize thoroughly your and tell me how to get a better chance

nikkycool:
Thanks for this questions.But please educate me,apart from improving travel history what else could mean changes in our circumstances?we have good jobs,have kids,own our house although we didn't include that hubby has a factory he runs aside from his profession.Could that count as change for us?kindly advice.Thank you.

Yes

TWoods:


Yes you should...

I can assure you that you'll be denied again and you'll be back asking of how to correct "mistakes" on your application.

Twoods, with all due respect, this is what I call destructive criticism...
The person asking this question is obviously uninformed, the best you could do is advice and not assuring him /her of a denial, when you are not even God to start with.. I don't know how some folks are so so quick to destroy people with their mouth

Akuta28:


I think this is rude and very unnecessary... you can give your own 2 cents without trolling other people.. I wonder why Nigerians are like this... and just so you know, I am not judging based on this post only.. I read most of your replies to people and it never disappoints me... very sad!

Twoods is like that, please let's learn to respect and accommodate ourselves, the essence of this forum is to throw light and enlighten ourselves on the best forward and not to shine with people who don't know how it goes
Fear God

vanbaby:


I have visited U.K and Dubai.the usa refusal doesn't say the reason why you are rejected I am assuming it is because I am not married. I presume an agent will help scrutinize thoroughly your and tell me how to get a better chance

You don't need an agent to tell u the ties, study to show yourself approved

Sebastine1606:

You don't need an agent to tell u the ties, study to show yourself approved

Dasall!!! Will the agent now get the reasons from the embassy?

Well madam OP do as you are led. U have been advised.

A friend with valid UK visa 5 years and expired UK visas, expired Schengen visas full of three Nigerian passports with one old Nigerian passport. Married with kids, account balance of over 12 million naira. Dubai stamps and china. Just received passport letter from Canadian high commission to submit his passport for visa. This is the same person that was refused US visa twice shortly before applying to Canada. . I don't understand these North american people at all. Whats wrong with them? LadyGuinivere what do you think Canada consider in his application, cos i he was even expecting a straight refusal, he just decided to give it a try

LadyGuinivere:

Dasall!!! Will the agent now get the reasons from the embassy?

Well madam OP do as you are led. U have been advised.

What am saying is she doesn't need to patronize any agent to tell her the ties she needs, she can Google or read thru past threads

dotcomnamename:
A friend with valid UK visa 5 years and expired UK visas, expired Schengen visas full of three Nigerian passports with one old Nigerian passport. Married with kids, account balance of over 12 million naira. Dubai stamps and china. Just received passport letter from Canadian high commission to submit his passport for visa. This is the same person that was refused US visa twice shortly before applying to Canada. . I don't understand these North american people at all. Whats wrong with them? LadyGuinivere what do you think Canada consider in his application, cos i he was even expecting a straight refusal, he just decided to give it a try

That's exactly what I'm saying. Different strokes for different countries. UK and CA look at documents objectively. US assumes every document is a forgery ( I don't blame them)
I have no idea why the guy was refused the first time. Cos I'm my opinion that's where the root of the problem usually lies. I also know if folks that were denied unfairly and they reapplied and presented a strong case and got. We also had someone like that here -100dollarbill. With all the flenty travel history and sereree them bounce am. E reapply come get.
In my own case I believe the embassy was right to refuse Me the first time I applied cos i clearly had no idea how the system worked. One could look nervous and be wrongly profiled a flight risk.

Sebastine1606:

What am saying is she doesn't need to patronize any agent to tell her the ties she needs, she can Google or read thru past threads

I was still and I'm still in agreement with u. That's why I said "dassall" . Assin " that's all" to the Bible quote.
Then I now addressed the OP to do as she pleased. Different sentences. Sorry for not been clear

Thanks LadyGuinivere, i really do appreciate your response.

LadyGuinivere:

Th1e solution to a lie is the truth. Abi is it not? Fill the correct details and my take is always to draw the attention of the vo to it by yourself. Don't wait for him to sight it. He may or may not. He may and even decide to ignore. But when u bring it up you are sure it's going into the interview notes. Whether u get it or not this time you have done the right thing