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Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 11:21pm On Sep 09, 2017 |
Re: The NBA Begins by Decale: 11:22pm On Sep 09, 2017 |
rotimi9: I think Roland17 meant for the Spurs... And yes, I really do agree Kawhi has done more than enough to have his shirt retired. That's if he doesn't pull a Kyrie... |
Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 11:40pm On Sep 09, 2017 |
rotimi9: wao! I missed that. the way this guy played was beautiful He didnt win a ring because of injuries - Tmac could take over any game at any time (he schooled Kobe every time they matched up, EVERY TIME), but he could never sustain his mental edge game after game. I love what this guy did in Sudan some years back https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VbcBkfokiI E pain me till tomorrow this guy didnt win a ring 4 Likes |
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 12:05am On Sep 10, 2017 |
Decale:all the top 10 NBA players in the league right now have done enough for their jerseys to be retired but not all of them are SURE Hall of famers. |
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 12:12am On Sep 10, 2017 |
rotimi9: I am very happy someone else exposed your ignorance and haste at arguing without comprehension before you tried to cover your shame by hiding your post with a smily, rather than apologizing at your mistake. We all live in the same world, however, with different expectations and implications. I have a whole lot to lose than you or anyone for that matter would ever gain by indulging in insulting/ irresponsible arguments online or in the real world. (folks who know me outside here know what I am speaking about). I am not a conformist, so I hope you understand. If you don't have fact ladened arguments stop being too emotional. Throughout this argument, I have accorded you a lot of respect devoid of name calling, if you use irresponsible and insults to argue with me again, I would ignore you going forward. Let me help you once more with this inference. Not every great player would make the hall of fame, however does that mean they were not great? Some players have their jerseys hanging on the rafters however, they are not hall of famers. Also, the greatness of a player in his stats is first recognized with the teams he plays for or played for. I have burdened you with facts on why Kawahi is already a great player with the Spurs and by extension the NBA, however, it has been a roller coaster ride for you to prove otherwise with facts. At 26, 1X NBA Championship 1X FMVP 2X DPOTY 2x All Star selection 2x NBA 1st team selection 3x NBA defensive 1st team selection 9th All time scoring leader 8th All time in steals 7th All time in 3 points made Franchise player of the Spurs. 10th All time in points from the freebie lane Ranked top 10 on almost every list for Spurs greatest. Thanks. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 12:17am On Sep 10, 2017 |
Roland17:;DD young blood mis interpretation of statement is not a misplacement of facts and doesn't require any form of apology whatsoever but only correction .pls kindly go through my "corrected" reply above |
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 12:30am On Sep 10, 2017 |
rotimi9: Let me help you again as you keep shooting yourself. A lack of comprehension skill causes misinterpretation of statements which alters the idea behind an argument, invariably leads to misplaced fact, and when facts are misplaced, arguments become illogical because the initial premise is a misinterpretation of statement. Makes sense? If you read closely you would see where I talked about greatness and the hall of fame. As far as facts go, "No current NBA player is in the hall of fame, however, some of the current players are already great players for their respective teams and the league". Consequently, the argument about the hall of fame is irrelevant considering they are still active, however, greatness can be argued right now based off their rank and stats in the league. |
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 12:31am On Sep 10, 2017 |
Decale: LMAO! Triggered! MJ said that because thats how good kawhi is, you think curry is better than and i'm the d.umb one? Small the person in that picture most recently ranked curry as number 5, i'll forgive him for bearing false witness during currys hype era. There you go with the ad hominems again, ultimate sign that you have no clue what you are saying. CLOWN!!!! |
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 12:56am On Sep 10, 2017 |
Roland17:I'm glad u took ur time to reply my message,however,of a truth no current NBA player is in the hall of fame but still there are playera who are regarded as established hall of famers in the league right now by professional sport bodies,fans and the media. and u saying the argument about hall of fame is irrelevant is quite sbocking.no true and sincere NBA fan will deny the fact that Wade Lebron Curry e.t.c Are sure HOFs Even MJ,Johnson, bird,O'Neal. Before there careers were far from over already were established HOFs So,saying that HOF talks is irrelevant even when making arguments about the greatness of an nba player's career,is my friend SHoCKINg.the rank and stats that u make mention of my friend, both individual and team wise are criterias considered before induction into the HOF.how then are HOF talks irrelevant |
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 1:03am On Sep 10, 2017 |
rotimi9: Question: Is any current NBA player in the hall of fame? If no, then, it is a futuristic argument which would be determined by the players greatness, which is hinged on their current stats. Invariably, if Kawahi is already ranked amongst the top 10 greatest Spurs of all time and boasts of the stats and awards I mentioned above, then, his greatness in the current NBA is unquestionable irrespective of your opinion. Take your time to read.. Makes sense? |
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 1:28am On Sep 10, 2017 |
Roland17: Brook lopez_ hez a top 10 Brooklyn nets player of all time. And guess what he is their all time leading scorer in points,hez their all time leader in blocks,2nd in free throws made, and first overall in minutes and games played.hez got ur stats ain't he brook Lopez has done enough for his jersey to be retired which will surely bb retired. But guess what tHAT is only in Brooklyn Can he be called an NBA great. hEZ not even a top 180 player of all time But wait doesnt he got d stats The NBA is more than brookyln bro Same with kawhi,the NBA is more than spurs bro. And he has to make significant impact in the game. not just appearing on a team's top ten. Kawhi my friend as I've repeatedly said hez good but not a great yet. Everyone is entitled to his opinion tho |
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 1:44am On Sep 10, 2017 |
rotimi9: Let me help you again. The premise of this argument is hinged on the parameter used to describe Kawahi. You used GOOD to describe, infact you degenerated to using PROMISING to describe Kawahi. I disagreed, using facts to state Kawahi is already a great player in the NBA. Owing to a lack of comprehension you construed "Great" to mean "Hall of fame" which I have helped you differentiate. Again, you are keep going on this roller coaster rides, first D.Rose, then Iggy, now Brook Lopez, not forgetting that you used probably to question Ginobli and Parkers greatness. Brook Lopez would be regarded as a Brooklyn net great, however, in comparison to Kawahi has his greatness helped the Nets achieve anything? What are his individual NBA records which is hinged on his stats with the Nets. Does Lopez's stat elevate him to NBA achievements like top 7? Kawahi would appear on everyone's Top 7 list and that includes your own list and that is why he is a great NBA player because his stats transcends his team. |
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 2:07am On Sep 10, 2017 |
Roland17:I am not desputing the fact DAT kawhi is a legitimate top 6 player I was only making a constructive argument wit u by listing some of the NBA players who have had similar stats and acheived similar feats like kawhi and yet are not considered greats.the closest was Drose who is also a chicago bull top 10 all time player.but yet not considered a great. Being a top ten in d league right now doesn't imply greatness. Drose was a top 5 player back in 2010 and 2011 but yet he is not considered a great now, u urself confirmed it. Greatness in d NBA can only b established with consistency year in year out ,making significant impact in your team and the league in general. Drose was able to do that for only 3 easons until d injuries came in. I also gave an example of JOEL EMBId who was a sure rookie of the year winner until the injuries deprived him. These analogies were only to butress my points about kawhi.I don't c how they are in any way off track. The root of d whole matter is this as I've earlier said,kawhi has good stats but not enough to be called a great,hez good but if he retired now would hez stats b enough to call him a great player not just as a spurs player but an NBA player In general. . TRUST the PROCESS. |
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 2:30am On Sep 10, 2017 |
SIRcumalot:Noel is being greedy. He was offered his production level. And the market for him is not great so that's the key. The important fact with Rose is there was no news of him turning down better offers to play for the Cavs else he wouldn't have settled for a veteran minimum at 29. No need for long yarning in a matter of months we would see who is the better passer between him and Derrick Rose |
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 2:55am On Sep 10, 2017 |
rotimi9: Stop running heater skelter and dispute the facts below. Tell the world how a player with such stats is merely a good player, worse still a promising player. All the players you have used examples have nothing, absolutely nothing on Kawahi. From Rose, to Iggy, to Embiid, to Lopez. Who is next? Simply dispute he facts below as not great worthy in today's NBA. 1x NBA Championship 1X FMVP 2X DPOTY 2x All Star selection 2x NBA 1st team selection 3x NBA defensive 1st team selection 9th All time scoring leader 8th All time in steals 7th All time in 3 points made Franchise player of the Spurs. 10th All time in points from the freebie lane Ranked top 10 on almost every list for Spurs greatest. Kawahi did not become a great player last season. Did he stumble on multiple individual awards and records in one season? Has he been a top 7 player in the league over the past 5 seasons when he amassed these awards and stats? Dispute the stats above. |
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 3:28am On Sep 10, 2017 |
Roland17:my bro kawhi has never been a top 7 player for 5 seasons as u claim. But broke through as a top 5 player in the 2015-2016 season. Wat again do u want me to dispute or prove to u.I've made my point clear to u earlier.arguing again will just be a run around.everyone is entitled to his opinion. Nevertheless whatever opinion one may hold it still doesn't change fact. TRUST THE PROCESS |
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 3:44am On Sep 10, 2017 |
rotimi9: Today, would Jordan describe Kawhi as Good or Great? don't forget he recently called him a great player and the best 2 way player in the league that has Bron, Durant, George, and Butler Today, would Kobe describe Kawhi as Good or Great? Today, would Bron describe Kawhi as Good or Great? Would NBA coaches describe Kawhi as Good or Great? How many current and retired NBA players describe Kawhi today? Anyways, we are all entitled to our individual opinion, if only you stated that from the beginning. Thanks for keeping it civil and mature afterward. |
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 4:07pm On Sep 10, 2017 |
A40: Too much off the field issues with the bumble bees for me. From L. Bell's preseason stand off, to the uncertainty surrounding Big Ben future after this season, to not really knowing what to expect from Bryant after the one year suspension and A. Brown's immaturity. I am worried there is just too much distraction in the locker room. It would be interesting to see if you guys can put it together. #gopackers.. |
Re: The NBA Begins by Decale: 12:18am On Sep 11, 2017 |
Rafa |
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 3:29am On Sep 11, 2017 |
Roland17:Naah the Steelers would be fine. Bell has no choice but to flat out ball if he wants to get paid big and everybody has moved past the AB incident. Martavis is a bit more tricky but he would also need to play well to secure his future. My worry was at Tight End but it looks like the Outlaw Jesse James has it on lock. My hope is for our young defence to blossom this year and our 1st round pick TJ Watt is already showing that sacks run in the family. Of which I see the ojoro wey una do Seahawks oo! That guy sent Jimmy Graham to suplex city yet the refs no call Pass Interference |
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 3:34am On Sep 11, 2017 |
rotimi9:Its a crying disgrace that Chris Webber is not a Hall of Famer already. I rate him much higher than T-Mac who did zilch even with Yao Ming. Chris Webber had the unique misfortune of peaking when Shaq and Kobe were also at their prime. The Sacramento Kings gave those 00-02 3peat Lakers than teams from the Eastern Conference |
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 3:36am On Sep 11, 2017 |
VAMOS RAFAAAAAAA. #16. Salute the Manacor Matador!! If they told me Nadal would play 3 Grand Slam Finals in a year after 2015/2016 I would never believe 2 Likes |
Re: The NBA Begins by SIRcumalot: 8:49am On Sep 11, 2017 |
A40:me just think say na that fab 4 controversy still never allow am enter. |
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 1:45am On Sep 12, 2017 |
SIRcumalot:Its a damn shame. Chris Webber is definitely a HOF player |
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 3:34am On Sep 12, 2017 |
A40: Baba, abeg accord my pass rush defense the credit they duly deserve. Mike Daniels especially had Wilson tap dancing all night, there was no reprieve for the Seahawks as he was sacked like a sandwich. The Seahawks are a very tough team and I have to agree that the ejection was questionable, however, it would have not changed the inevitable. I am still worried about the running back position, I am not convinced Montgomery is best for the RB position, I just hope I am wrong. As for your bees, I think TJ Watt is going to a stud, I guess it runs in the family and the school (Winsconsin). Bell underperformed (32 rushing and 15 receiving yards) so did Bryant (2 receptions for 14 yards). |
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 3:38am On Sep 12, 2017 |
SIRcumalot: I agree with the Fab Five controversy playing a role and I think Webber has not managed the situation any better either. He has refused to acknowledge his role or any path to reconciliation with Michigan. At some point he has to humble himself and negotiate a path to reconciliation, if for nothing, for his records with the Wolverines. 1 Like |
Re: The NBA Begins by joephemzyz(m): 8:17am On Sep 12, 2017 |
eyin boys! No fantasy this season? |
Re: The NBA Begins by SmooshCHN: 10:46am On Sep 12, 2017 |
joephemzyz:The beating you chop never do you? I'm in for it. I hope others are interested cos I'm drafting Lonzo Ball 1st overall. |
Re: The NBA Begins by joephemzyz(m): 11:10am On Sep 12, 2017 |
SmooshCHN: My guy Una go hear am this season. Oga birdman will set it up I guess |
Re: The NBA Begins by aliondo: 11:12am On Sep 12, 2017 |
Am not understanding oh....is this the same Kawhi i know or another?? KAWHI cannot be called great??...hmmmm |
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 11:13am On Sep 12, 2017 |
aliondo: Most people spewing nonsense here don't even know who kawhi is. They only know about curry and the warriors. |
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