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Re: The NBA Begins by benji93: 3:29pm On Sep 13
Roland17:


Question: Is any current NBA player in the hall of fame?

If no, then, it is a futuristic argument which would be determined by the players greatness, which is hinged on their current stats. Invariably, if Kawahi is already ranked amongst the top 10 greatest Spurs of all time and boasts of the stats and awards I mentioned above, then, his greatness in the current NBA is unquestionable irrespective of your opinion.

Take your time to read.. Makes sense?
Being a top 10 all time player in your team's franchise history does not amount to a sure Hall of fame consideration.Whether or not a player will be admitted into a hall of fame player in the future depends on his achievements with respect to his peers.His role in his team's championship run, if any,his personal statistics,including all star selection.All team and individual achievements are weighed and compared to that of his equally eligible peers.
Re: The NBA Begins by Eruditor: 5:02pm On Sep 13
benji93:

Being a top 10 all time player in your team's franchise history does not amount to a sure Hall of fame consideration.Whether or not a player will be admitted into a hall of fame player in the future depends on his achievements with respect to his peers.His role in his team's championship run, if any,his personal statistics,including all star selection.All team and individual achievements are weighed and compared to that of his equally eligible peers.

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Re: The NBA Begins by Eruditor: 5:28pm On Sep 13
birdman:
Look at it another way - if the warriors could get Curry for Kawhi, would they do it? It spurs could swap Curry for Kawhi, would they bite. I say yes, warriors would do it. Spurs would not.

Comparing kawhi and curry is hard to do. kinda like comparing lebron and kobe. One is a special offensive weapon. The other is a special system player. Offense is flashy, and easily distracts you from true value. But the league has had lots of special offensive weapons, but the system players are much more dominant over time. If Curry is looking really good right now, its not just his sharpshooting skills - its the fact that the warriors have loaded up. Kawhi with warriors personnel would win rings to, as would CP3, Kyrie, IT, etc

Bottom line, if you are a GM, and you have a solid roster ready to win a 'ship, you pick the system superstar, Kawhi, over the offensive weapon Curry every time.

This is incredibly false.

Kawhi in SAS, is yet to be the player Tony Parker was to them and Curry has already eclipsed Tony Parker in the all-time rankings for PGs.

Would GSW swap Curry for Kawhi? They won't even swap him for Lebron. I thought KD was being courted by the Clippers when CP3 was there, why did he not go there?

Now IT, Kyrie would have won a ring with GSW in Curry's stead? What in the last 4 years of basketball gives you the boldness to say so?

So which is the system player between Lebron and Kobe if I am to go by your leanings? Which of them was more dominant over time?

Kawhi is a definite top 5 player in the NBA currently but that is where it stops. If he continues at this rate in 2 more seasons we may revisit where he stands but I can't run amok in extolling him beyond what he has actually achieved.

James Harden was a bad game 5 OT away from outplaying him over the course of 6 games and I am not going to make him a God because of his NBA Finals MVP when Iguodala has one as well and is not even an Angel.

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Re: The NBA Begins by rotimi9: 5:55pm On Sep 13
Eruditor:


This is incredibly false.

Kawhi in SAS, is yet to be the player Tony Parker was to them and Curry has already eclipsed Tony Parker in the all-time rankings for PGs.

Would GSW swap Curry for Kawhi? They won't even swap him for Lebron. I thought KD was being courted by the Clippers when CP3 was there, why did he not go there?

Now IT, Kyrie would have won a ring with GSW in Curry's stead? What in the last 4 years of basketball gives you the boldness to say so?

So which is the system player between Lebron and Kobe if I am to go by your leanings? Which of them was more dominant over time?

[b]Kawhi is a definite top 5 player in the NBA currently but that is where it stops. If he continues at this rate in 2 more seasons we may revisit where he stands but I can't run amok in extolling him beyond what he has actually achieved.


James Harden was a bad game 5 OT away from outplaying him over the course of 6 games and I am not going to make him a God because of his NBA Finals MVP when Iguodala has one as well and is not even an Angel.
FACTS cool.I like the fact that u actually took nothing away from kawhi yet u actually spewed the truth.

Consistentcy is key.it is the cardinal proof of a player's abilities. vital for not just a season or two but for the better part of a player's career. Its sad how most fans tend to jump on the bandwagon after a player has lyk one or two good seasons.smh
Re: The NBA Begins by Decale: 10:19pm On Sep 13
Eruditor:


This is incredibly false.

Kawhi in SAS, is yet to be the player Tony Parker was to them and Curry has already eclipsed Tony Parker in the all-time rankings for PGs.

Would GSW swap Curry for Kawhi? They won't even swap him for Lebron. I thought KD was being courted by the Clippers when CP3 was there, why did he not go there?

Now IT, Kyrie would have won a ring with GSW in Curry's stead? What in the last 4 years of basketball gives you the boldness to say so?

So which is the system player between Lebron and Kobe if I am to go by your leanings? Which of them was more dominant over time?

Kawhi is a definite top 5 player in the NBA currently but that is where it stops. If he continues at this rate in 2 more seasons we may revisit where he stands but I can't run amok in extolling him beyond what he has actually achieved.

James Harden was a bad game 5 OT away from outplaying him over the course of 6 games and I am not going to make him a God because of his NBA Finals MVP when Iguodala has one as well and is not even an Angel.



That was how somebody on Twitter was saying Ray Allen is a better shooter than Curry and was better in his prime. I felt like entering my phone and giving him bïtch slaps. I was this close to sending thugs to his area.

Any PG will win a ring with GSW?? Na Curry I dey blame for having that baby face and KD too

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Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 12:01am On Sep 14
Roland17:


Candice Parker alllllllll day...
Candace is hot too but I prefer Maya. Even that our Naija babe Ogwumike isn't too bad
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 1:59am On Sep 14
Decale:




That was how somebody on Twitter was saying Ray Allen is a better shooter than Curry and was better in his prime. I felt like entering my phone and giving him bïtch slaps. I was this close to sending thugs to his area.

Any PG will win a ring with GSW?? Na Curry I dey blame for having that baby face and KD too

Curry is the greatest shooter of all time, still not better than kawhi.

And the bolded part says a lot about you. grin
Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 2:14am On Sep 14
Eruditor:


This is incredibly false.

Kawhi in SAS, is yet to be the player Tony Parker was to them and Curry has already eclipsed Tony Parker in the all-time rankings for PGs.

Would GSW swap Curry for Kawhi? They won't even swap him for Lebron. I thought KD was being courted by the Clippers when CP3 was there, why did he not go there?

Now IT, Kyrie would have won a ring with GSW in Curry's stead? What in the last 4 years of basketball gives you the boldness to say so?

So which is the system player between Lebron and Kobe if I am to go by your leanings? Which of them was more dominant over time?

Kawhi is a definite top 5 player in the NBA currently but that is where it stops. If he continues at this rate in 2 more seasons we may revisit where he stands but I can't run amok in extolling him beyond what he has actually achieved.

James Harden was a bad game 5 OT away from outplaying him over the course of 6 games and I am not going to make him a God because of his NBA Finals MVP when Iguodala has one as well and is not even an Angel.

nah, man, take the emotion out of it a little. Are you saying Kyrie on Warriors, or IT, or CP3 or Lebron or Kawhi on Warrios will not win a ring? Cmon now
Re: The NBA Begins by Eruditor: 10:42am On Sep 14
birdman:


nah, man, take the emotion out of it a little. Are you saying Kyrie on Warriors, or IT, or CP3 or Lebron or Kawhi on Warrios will not win a ring? Cmon now

Only Lebron will win a ring with GSW and he would do it playing his own way and not Kerr's. GSW will not win near 73 games in a regular season with Lebron. Draymond Green would not be the player that he is, playing with Lebron.

Read me clearly; take Curry off GSW last season and leave the rest of the team with KD (any of the PGs you mentioned above) and the rest of the roster against Cavs. Cavs win in 6 or 7.

Curry took 2 almost 3 games away from SAS in 2013/14 (their championship year) dropping 44 and 42 in 2 of the 6 games. A 51-win GSW team because of him if you remember (first year they truly handed their franchise to him). To put this feat in context, that same year, Lebron and his Miami Heatles lost 4-1 to the same Spurs. 4 of those losses were blow-outs!

I cringe to see the other names you mentioned there even as I wonder how many of them control the type of gravity SC does. How many free-way dunks did Iggy and KD have these playoffs simply because defenders would rather stop Curry from shooting a 3?

I said it before, Kawhi is a phenomenal robot but he simply does not do enough to add anything to GSW; The skill set he brings is not wanting in the team.

Green defends more positions than him. KD is a better offensive weapon. Curry has more gravity. Klay is more precise a spot-up shooter and Kawhi is not a center standing at 6'7. He does not pass the ball better than any of the starters bar Klay (and this is even debatable).

Put Curry on SAS as PG, and you would see how good a shooter 'long-arms' Green is. Put Curry on SAS and see Aldridge make 25ppg on 15spg. Heck, Spurs did very well against so many teams (Rockets) without Kawhi, KD went down and GSW started winning by greater margins and with more consistency. I fear to know the struggles KD would go through without Curry on this team.

For evidence, watch GSW VS OKC 2016 WCF. And just incase, you won't watch it, KD loses the ball far easily when he is doubled or tripled. GSW used that strategy in that SCs 46 point win against OKC at Chesapeake. We reverted to it in games 5, 6 and 7 against OKC in the comeback.

Without the gravity that Curry brings to the team, thus freeing KD, sure KD would get buckets (he is mega-skilled). But he would do it at far less efficiency and with a large margin of error.

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Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 11:26am On Sep 14
Eruditor:


Only Lebron will win a ring with GSW and he would do it playing his own way and not Kerr's. GSW will not win near 73 games in a regular season with Lebron. Draymond Green would not be the player that he is, playing with Lebron.

Read me clearly; take Curry off GSW last season and leave the rest of the team with KD (any of the PGs you mentioned above) and the rest of the roster against Cavs. Cavs win in 6 or 7.

Curry took 2 almost 3 games away from SAS in 2013/14 (their championship year) dropping 44 and 42 in 2 of the 6 games. A 51-win GSW team because of him if you remember (first year they truly handed their franchise to him). To put this feat in context, that same year, Lebron and his Miami Heatles lost 4-1 to the same Spurs. 4 of those losses were blow-outs!

I cringe to see the other names you mentioned there even as I wonder how many of them control the type of gravity SC does. How many free-way dunks did Iggy and KD have these playoffs simply because defenders would rather stop Curry from shooting a 3?

I said it before, Kawhi is a phenomenal robot but he simply does not do enough to add anything to GSW; The skill set he brings is not wanting in the team.

Green defends more positions than him. KD is a better offensive weapon. Curry has more gravity. Klay is more precise a spot-up shooter and Kawhi is not a center standing at 6'7. He does not pass the ball better than any of the starters bar Klay (and this is even debatable).

Put Curry on SAS as PG, and you would see how good a shooter 'long-arms' Green is. Put Curry on SAS and see Aldridge make 25ppg on 15spg. Heck, Spurs did very well against so many teams (Rockets) without Kawhi, KD went down and GSW started winning by greater margins and with more consistency. I fear to know the struggles KD would go through without Curry on this team.

For evidence, watch GSW VS OKC 2016 WCF. And just incase, you won't watch it, KD loses the ball far easily when he is doubled or tripled. GSW used that strategy in that SCs 46 point win against OKC at Chesapeake. We reverted to it in games 5, 6 and 7 against OKC in the comeback.

Without the gravity that Curry brings to the team, thus freeing KD, sure KD would get buckets (he is mega-skilled). But he would do it at far less efficiency and with a large margin of error.

Nairaland really needs a face palm emoji.

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Re: The NBA Begins by Decale: 11:49am On Sep 14
Ersan:


Nairaland really needs a face palm emoji.


Someone dey bring up facts to defend Curry, this one dey talk "NaiRAlaND neeDS a FAce PalM EmoJi".

The only thing wey this one sabi na "YoU doN'T kNOw whO KaWhi is"

Lemme stop here before the guy come tell me wetin Kawhi tell am for FaceTime...

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Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 11:51am On Sep 14
Decale:



Someone dey bring up facts to defend Curry, this one dey talk "NaiRAlaND neeDS a FAce PalM EmoJi".

The only thing wey this one sabi na "YoU doN'T kNOw whO KaWhi is"

Lemme stop here before the guy come tell me wetin Kawhi tell am for FaceTime...

LMAO at "facts"


facepalm is the only reasonable response for that pile of winnits and for dum dums like you.
Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 11:59am On Sep 14
Eruditor:


Only Lebron will win a ring with GSW and he would do it playing his own way and not Kerr's. GSW will not win near 73 games in a regular season with Lebron. Draymond Green would not be the player that he is, playing with Lebron.

Read me clearly; take Curry off GSW last season and leave the rest of the team with KD (any of the PGs you mentioned above) and the rest of the roster against Cavs. Cavs win in 6 or 7.

Curry took 2 almost 3 games away from SAS in 2013/14 (their championship year) dropping 44 and 42 in 2 of the 6 games. A 51-win GSW team because of him if you remember (first year they truly handed their franchise to him). To put this feat in context, that same year, Lebron and his Miami Heatles lost 4-1 to the same Spurs. 4 of those losses were blow-outs!

I cringe to see the other names you mentioned there even as I wonder how many of them control the type of gravity SC does. How many free-way dunks did Iggy and KD have these playoffs simply because defenders would rather stop Curry from shooting a 3?

I said it before, Kawhi is a phenomenal robot but he simply does not do enough to add anything to GSW; The skill set he brings is not wanting in the team.

Green defends more positions than him. KD is a better offensive weapon. Curry has more gravity. Klay is more precise a spot-up shooter and Kawhi is not a center standing at 6'7. He does not pass the ball better than any of the starters bar Klay (and this is even debatable).

Put Curry on SAS as PG, and you would see how good a shooter 'long-arms' Green is. Put Curry on SAS and see Aldridge make 25ppg on 15spg. Heck, Spurs did very well against so many teams (Rockets) without Kawhi, KD went down and GSW started winning by greater margins and with more consistency. I fear to know the struggles KD would go through without Curry on this team.

For evidence, watch GSW VS OKC 2016 WCF. And just incase, you won't watch it, KD loses the ball far easily when he is doubled or tripled. GSW used that strategy in that SCs 46 point win against OKC at Chesapeake. We reverted to it in games 5, 6 and 7 against OKC in the comeback.

Without the gravity that Curry brings to the team, thus freeing KD, sure KD would get buckets (he is mega-skilled). But he would do it at far less efficiency and with a large margin of error.

while i disagree with your conclusion, I agree that having defense paying attention to Curry opens up things for Green and co. I still believe the team is so loaded up that the other players I mentioned would have the same effect, but I see your point

...phenomenal robot. choi!

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Re: The NBA Begins by SIRcumalot: 3:50pm On Sep 14
phenomenal robot cheesy. not that anybody asked but Curry over kawhi anyday.

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Re: The NBA Begins by Eruditor: 4:13pm On Sep 14
Ersan:


Nairaland really needs a face palm emoji.

The resident pseudo-intellectual.

Always trying to belong.

I have noticed you today.
Re: The NBA Begins by SmooshCHN: 4:58pm On Sep 14
Decale:



Someone dey bring up facts to defend Curry, this one dey talk "NaiRAlaND neeDS a FAce PalM EmoJi".

The only thing wey this one sabi na "YoU doN'T kNOw whO KaWhi is"

Lemme stop here before the guy come tell me wetin Kawhi tell am for FaceTime...
I agree with him.
In Spongebob's voice: nAiraLANd nEeDs a fACepAlm eMojI cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: The NBA Begins by Donlittle(m): 4:59pm On Sep 14
SmooshCHN:
I agree with him.
In Spongebob's voice: nAiraLANd nEeDs a fACepAlm eMojI cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
una wicked sha grin
Re: The NBA Begins by Donlittle(m): 5:00pm On Sep 14
Decale:



Someone dey bring up facts to defend Curry, this one dey talk "NaiRAlaND neeDS a FAce PalM EmoJi".

The only thing wey this one sabi na "YoU doN'T kNOw whO KaWhi is"

Lemme stop here before the guy come tell me wetin Kawhi tell am for FaceTime...
he go tell you say him IQ pass albert einstein grin
Re: The NBA Begins by deecis: 5:08pm On Sep 14
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Re: The NBA Begins by Donlittle(m): 5:16pm On Sep 14
How is kyrie irving number 25 on this list? You mean to tell me there are 24 other players in this league better than kyrie? undecided
Re: The NBA Begins by rotimi9: 5:23pm On Sep 14
ESPN is officially a joke cry

Re: The NBA Begins by Eruditor: 5:25pm On Sep 14
Donlittle:
How is kyrie irving number 25 on this list? You mean to tell me there are 24 other players in this league better than kyrie? undecided

That is why he left Lebron; nothing he did was recognized because of him.
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 5:43pm On Sep 14
Eruditor:


The resident pseudo-intellectual.

Always trying to belong.

I have noticed you today.


Most would say i'm trying to do the opposite.
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 5:45pm On Sep 14
SmooshCHN:
I agree with him.
In Spongebob's voice: nAiraLANd nEeDs a fACepAlm eMojI cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

That's not how you do it, you have to add the picture as well for extra levels of childishness and sheepishness.
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 5:46pm On Sep 14
Donlittle:
una wicked sha grin

Hype man!!!! grin
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 5:47pm On Sep 14
Donlittle:
he go tell you say him IQ pass albert einstein grin


LMAO Are you jealous little one? Don't be, we weren't all created equal, live with it.
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 5:52pm On Sep 14
Donlittle:
How is kyrie irving number 25 on this list? You mean to tell me there are 24 other players in this league better than kyrie? undecided

Who takes those guys serious? Their article writers are the worst i have read in forever, they only want to stir the pot to drive traffic.
Re: The NBA Begins by Donlittle(m): 5:55pm On Sep 14
Roland17:


Who takes those guys serious? Their article writers are the worst i have read in forever, they only want to stir the pot to drive traffic.
Even if you want to stir the pot, at least let it make sense a little bit.

Well, I stopped taking them serious when kobe wasn't in their top 10 all time.
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 6:12pm On Sep 14
This thread in a nutshell.

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Re: The NBA Begins by Decale: 6:44pm On Sep 14
Ersan:
This thread in a nutshell.




If Celtics fans, Bulls fans, Mavs fans and even Cavs fans here don rate Curry over Kawhi, then it means that











We're dumb, our IQs are in single digits. We apologise, oh great one, Albert Einstein himself, Mr Bangdadadang.

You're right, we won't argue with you anymore. Case closed? smiley
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 6:59pm On Sep 14
Decale:



If Celtics fans, Bulls fans, Mavs fans and even Cavs fans here don rate Curry over Kawhi, then it means that

bandwagoners and ninnies the lot of them






We're dumb, our IQs are in single digits. We apologise, oh great one, Albert Einstein himself, Mr Bangdadadang.

You're right, we won't argue with you anymore. Case closed? smiley
But you're not that bad, you're just very mis/uninformed is all.

Oooh, AND you let personal feelings cloud your judgement.
Re: The NBA Begins by rotimi9: 9:39pm On Sep 14
Sport's illustrated top 10

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