Ersan:


How is that an insult to christianity saying Jesus didnt die? That God didnt allow his prophet to die shamelessly and helplessly on a cross rather the hypocrite who sold him out did? I agree your jesus and ours is different, in fact your jesus christ and jesus of nazareth from the bible are extremely different!

And who are these muslims?

No its not an insult but let me go to the north and tell them that Jesus is the only way that every way is of the devil and see wat will happen.

U think we Christians care about wat u choose to believe, we just dont kill people for any Christian related issue, that is the bone of contention here, and not the crap u believe

[quote author=snrman post=60725115]Why would he criticize a religion that's not his own let a Muslim OAPI seear you are tue only wise onr here. Nigerians don't really think. They just say nonsense without thinking. I am not supporting d guy but how can he criticize a religion he knows nothing about ..

ZaraGift:



That's the truth, this is not Islamic section of nairaland

Stop beheading people

Christians are so disgusted with beheading that they would rather use weapons of mass destruction to maximise kill rate
Guns and bombs are less messy and enable a massacre proceed with less personal intercation!

zionmade1:

No its not an insult but let me go to the north and tell them that Jesus is the only way that every way is of the devil and see wat will happen.

U think we Christians care about wat u choose to believe, we just dont kill people for any Christian related issue, that is the bone of contention here, and not the crap u believe

They will ridicule you, but they wont harm you. As long as you dont insult islam. Christians have hilariously tried to preach to me before! Of course it ends with me preaching to them but....

We also dont care what you choose to believe as long as you respect what we believe?

hopefulLandlord:


I'm talking about Jesus Christ and you're yapping about Moses

are you a Judaism adherent? No!

is Jesus Christ is your role model? Yes!

Did Jesus criticise the Pharisees and Sadducees? Yes!

Did Jesus Christ chase people with whips for selling stuff and gambling in the church? yes!

so your sermons aren't valid here

The Bible didn't include the scriptures I posted for nothing. Infact the scriptures below says it all
2 Timothy 3:16-17New King James Version (NKJV)

16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work. It didn't say members should criticize their pastors or shepherds. That Jesus flogged those scribes for selling doesn't mean he advocate Christians to flog or criticize their pastors. The Bible says in Jeremiah 3:15 " "Then I will give you shepherds after My own heart, who will feed you on knowledge and understanding" . if they go astray, Christians are to pray for them not critize them.
Pastors cannot win the battle alone; they need committed intercessors to lift them up in fervent, specific prayer. Imagine how the power of God might be released in our churches if we were to pray faithfully for our pastors.

Pastors are human—they face the same challenges that their people do, with some additional ones! They grow tired in ministry, are tempted to sin, and may find it difficult to balance their many roles and responsibilities. They need the encouragement and support of those they lead.

Prayer for your pastor is crucial to the spiritual health of your pastor, his family, and your church. God will reward your efforts to cover him in prayer.

Ersan:


Then those muslims are ignorant. As far as i know we criticize imams all the time, you cant be a blind follower, in islam we are encouraged to seek knowledge, no human is superior to another in the eyes of God, you dont need an imam to guide or pray for you.

Says you

Alcatraz005:


Just get lost. I don't want you quoting me.

Tolerance, Tolerance

Alcatraz005:
The hate is this country was caused by adherents of your faith and unless there is a review of the country, we surely would witness the escalation of tensions.

Bye

Hate? Hate
Hijab - will Islamise Nigeria
Islamic Banking - will Islamise Nigeria
Sukuk - will Islamise Nigeria
Ife/Moidakeke; Urhobo/Itsekiri, Tiv/Jukun Umuleri/Agwuleri - Communal crises
Fulani/Berom - religious attack
And every Fulani is a Muslim and they are destroying lands/crops belonging to Christians only

Ersan:


They will ridicule you, but they wont harm you. As long as you dont insult islam. Christians have hilariously tried to preach to me before! Of course it ends with me preaching to them but....

We also dont care what you choose to believe as long as you respect what we believe?

@ bolded, that is wat we are talking about, so if i ridicule islam i deserve to die abi?

Just before u start lying also explain wat happened in kaduna because of the cartoon

peaceful religion indeed

hopefulLandlord:


anyone can talk about the government but anyone who wants to criticise a minister or a governor needs to know what the person's job entails

how many times have we seen misplaced criticisms? someone complaining Buhari is responsible for a particular bad road only for knowledgeable people to know its actually a state road and not federal?

see? knowledge is required or a person might just be shooting blanks

You just proved my point!! you need to READ!!! what makes you sure Freeze has read the Koran in his life?

in the post you quoted I said I haven't read the Koran before didn't I? so? your point is?

...my point is stop using because he isn't this or that he can't criticize an issue. Let him read and come and run commentary as well. Agreeable most of the pastors he talks about he's never attended their churches or hung out with the Christians he so much talks about? He knew their stories how? He read!

For whatever reason you chose not to be a Christian anymore. You weren't looking for answers if not you wouldn't have entered a mosque just twice and concluded on Islam either.

I'm not even going to try to understand your choice ...cos it's yours.

For freeze however, he should read the Quran too and go ahead and talk about the imams as well.

Surely I can't be the only one who would love to see his head on a stake...and the silencing of his tongue.

zionmade1:


@ bolded, that is wat we are talking about, so if i ridicule islam i deserve to die abi?

Just before u start lying also explain wat happened in kaduna because of the cartoon

peaceful religion indeed

I'm not saying you deserve to but i'm saying you can only blame yourself for crossing such boundaries.

Well Kaduna cartoon riot i cant even remember what its about, but im sure its cause of someone being insensitive and disrespectful to the beliefs of others.

Christians have had their crusades in the past and kill subtly now to further their agenda.

Hindus keep killing muslims for eating beef.


Buddhists are currently killing muslims in Myanmar.

Stop it with the selective morality.

zionmade1:

Indeed
So if they were fake muslims, who have killed them.
Saudi beheads people, oh no they are not true muslims
Muslims mob a Christian oh no they are not true muslims
Boko haram is killing in the name of islam oh no they are not true muslims.
its only yoruba muslims who mobbed a policeman on their very prayer ground that are true muslims

i don't support killing but i hope christians are not also killing right? my point is that no any sane muslim wil insult jesus

Ersan:


I'm not saying you deserve to but i'm saying you can only blame yourself for crossing such boundaries.

Well Kaduna cartoon riot i cant even remember what its about, but im sure its cause of someone being insensitive and disrespectful to the beliefs of others.

Christians have had their crusades in the past and kill subtly now to further their agenda.

Hindus keep killing muslims for eating beef.


Buddhists are currently killing muslims in Myanmar.

Stop it with the selective morality.

@ bolded that is what we are talking about so case dismissed. In Christianity we dont have such boundaries. As for ur crusaders, thats ur business u guys will be killing everywhere once a Christian challenges u guys u start ranting crusaders crusaders are u guys not tired of using the same line?

.

zionmade1:

@ bolded that is what we are talking about so case dismissed. In Christianity we dont have such boundaries. As for ur crusaders, thats ur business u guys will be killing everywhere once a Christian challenges u guys u start ranting crusaders crusaders are u guys not tired of using the same line?

Then thats your fault, dont complain when people like him choose to criticize you. Are you too not tired of using the terrorist line?

dtruth50:
i don't support killing but i hope christians are not also killing right? my point is that no any sane muslim wil insult jesus

Thats not the topic of the thread, insult or no insult, If freeze insults imams the way he insults pastors his head will hang period!!

zionmade1:

Thats not the topic of the thread, insult or no insult, If freeze insults imams the way he insults pastors his head will hang period!!

Nope. If he insults imams for living a life contrary to what is considered islamic, muslims will actually laud him.

Ersan:


Nope. If he insults imams for living a life contrary to what is considered islamic, muslims will actually laud him.

go and sell that lie somewhere else.
peaceful religion indeed
abeg bug off

zionmade1:

No its not an insult but let me go to the north and tell them that Jesus is the only way that every way is of the devil and see wat will happen.

U think we Christians care about wat u choose to believe, we just dont kill people for any Christian related issue, that is the bone of contention here, and not the crap u believe

guy is like u are not in Nigeria. do u know hw many christians living in d north? if we were to prevent dem from preachin, do u think dey wil remain in d north?

zionmade1:

go and sell that lie somewhere else.
peaceful religion indeed
abeg bug off

Hes insulting imams, not islam. Imams are not divine, just humans no better than you and i. It seems you have a destination and want to arrive at it regardless of which course you have to take, sad.

refreshrate:


...my point is stop using because he isn't this or that he can't criticize an issue. Let him read and come and run commentary as well. Agreeable most of the pastors he talks about he's never attended their churches or hung out with the Christians he so much talks about? He knew their stories how? He read!

For whatever reason you chose not to be a Christian anymore. You weren't looking for answers if not you wouldn't have entered a mosque just twice and concluded on Islam either.

I'm not even going to try to understand your choice ...cos it's yours.

For freeze however, he should read the Quran too and go ahead and talk about the imams as well.

Surely I can't be the only one who would love to see his head on a stake...and the silencing of his tongue.

he's not under any obligation to read the Koran and criticise Islam too, he can chose not to

He dare not try it,he might not even get home that night. He can get away with yabbing pastors because those ones no really send am, but try that crap with an imam or Alfa, na your funeral be that o

dtruth50:
guy is like u are not in Nigeria. do u know hw many christians living in d north? if we were to prevent dem from preachin, do u think dey wil remain in d north?

Christians in the north dont preach in the public, Never, infact there are specific areas where churches are located so tell us something else, preaching indeed

zionmade1:

Christians in the north dont preach in the public, Never, infact there are specific areas where churches are located so tell us something else, preaching indeed

How would you know if you've never been to the north? When there are church speakers blasting with music and pastors screaming in every muslim majority neighborhood?

You lot are hardwired to be ignorant.

zionmade1:

go and sell that lie somewhere else.
peaceful religion indeed
abeg bug off

You took the discourse personal. Perhaps, you have this hate thing for Muslims and Islam

Ersan:


How would you know if you've never been to the north? When there are church speakers blasting with music and pastors screaming in every muslim majority neighborhood?

You lot are hardwired to be ignorant.

I know the north more than u. I stayed in the north a better part of life

zionmade1:

I know the north more than u. I stayed in the north a better part of life

LMAO! Better than a northerner who is living in the north...

lekibraky:
Mumu Op how many Islamic scholars uses private jet talk less of Rolls Royce

so u havnt heard of Arab emirs and their stupendous wealth or our very own emir sanusi

zionmade1:

Christians in the north dont preach in the public, Never, infact there are specific areas where churches are located so tell us something else, preaching indeed

my question is are u living in the north? give ur reference whr muslims said christians should not preach outside. or do u think every christians in d north are not born or indigene of north? pls talk with fact.

zionmade1:

Nothing will happen. I mean nothing will happen. If u go to aba or anambra and dare raise up ur hand against anybody in public u must prove to everybody that u have the right to touch that person.
we are talking of religious mob action here and u re shifting post

So what about these
Mosques burnt in Enugu and Aba
and we have not abused anyone o!
http://dailypost.ng/2017/09/17/biafra-tension-enugu-suspected-ipob-members-set-mosque-ablaze-photos/
http://www..ng/news/ipob-members-destroyed-yoruba-mosque-aba-abia-state-video

zionmade1:

Is there anywhere in Nigeria that u will be shouting anything against Christian and u will be harmed?

Yes,
I have seen Christians get very angry because somebody was even preaching about Guru Mahraji
Christians even fight themselves

Ersan:


LMAO! Better than a northerner who is living in the north...

Yeah cos i lived in all the northern states except born and Bauchi, so wen i talk about the north u listen

zionmade1:

Yeah cos i lived in all the northern states except born and Bauchi, so wen i talk about the north u listen

Liar liar pants on fire. Been to is different from lived in small fry. Thou shall not lie!

hopefulLandlord:


Vatican city is NOT a church

there re more than 400 mosques in whole Italy a Christian country for that matter ,did any one tell u he or she is living inside vitican city? When the person is not rev father or cardinal or rev sister or pope,please u as a member of religion of peace how many Churches re in Saudi Arabia Pakistan Yemen somalia Afghanistan pls tell me so we can move to the next question,