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Re: Gotv Is In Soup: Tstv To Take Over Dstv And Gotv By October by laribari(m): 8:05pm On Sep 24, 2017
BlueRayDick:


Most of your assertions are wrong, most especially concerning the ones that pertains to hitv's unfortunate shutdown. Y'all still keep saying the same old story despite fresh revelations currently made by the sponsors of the defunct company. For crying out loud, the two companies Hitv and Dstv both entered the bid for exclusive rights to air live epl matches and at the point Hitv won it and had to source for fund to pay the fee required they hit a dead brick. There was obviously a well planned conspiracy against the company as all the banks didn't decline giving out facility but rather kept on promising, claiming they were busy with the recapitalization shiiii. Multichoice didn't get it because of their deep pocket but rather because of standard chartered bank (a fellow south African company) perfected a loan facility for them and they paid while hitv could not get any Nigerian bank to sort him out.

Surprisingly two days after Dstv got the right, hitv was called by the bank to come get the loan as everything has been perfected. We all know that's medicine after death. It was just a well planned conspiracy. Tho it's a business world where you either eat someone or get eaten. But y'all should stop making it look like Dstv has some badass strategist doing some miracle up there. It's just simple, they understand the level of corruption in Nigeria and they use it to their own maximum satisfaction.

As for outclassing Dstv, i don't know what you mean by that. Obviously on a majority level the selling point of Dstv is the epl matches they have exclusive rights to show. We all know supersports are exclusive to Dstv so you don't expect them to have supersport on TSTV too. However, bein sports will take care of that if what am seeing on their site is sacrosanct. And they also have other stations that will substitute most of the glorified Dstv stations.

If TSTV have actually taken their time to study the market well, then I don't see them going down the way of hitv. It will just be like the case of the telecommunications industry. Nobody will die for each other, it will be live and let live.

I don't even know what you are trying to say. I will pass becos I talked from a neutral point of view but obviously you are a TSTV fan boy already and called dstv much glorified which makes me feel your preference for TSTV once they come live. Let's say I got the HITV story wrong as you claimed but everything I said is true about the market. I thought you were going to tell me I was wrong about GOTV and star times. I will not go into arguments with you. If you claim dstv used politics against HITV, then hope they don't one way or the other kick out TSTV.

I only analyzed what goes on in the market and mind you whatever TSTV does, dstv will react. That's market strategy. Tell me I'm wrong and let's wait. I will retrace this thread even if it's next year.

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Re: Gotv Is In Soup: Tstv To Take Over Dstv And Gotv By October by Nobody: 8:07pm On Sep 24, 2017
CHESTER48:

Supersport is not even a rival.. Sky sports is the real rival actually. Go to Google and type bein sports vs supersport u will notice there is nothing like supersport. Supersport is like techno and infinix in naija..not recognized world Wide. It's an African channel
. Bein sports is in USA, in UK etc and you can pay or subscribe to their sports channels..


True! So many persons have no knowledge abt dem dats y. Initially wen dey started it used to be aljazeera sports b4 dey changed dia name to bein sport. I could remember watching copa America using it back den in 2011 wen dey had a studio panel comprising of Gary linekar, Jamie redknapp nd some oda renowned football legends. I was awed!
Re: Gotv Is In Soup: Tstv To Take Over Dstv And Gotv By October by laribari(m): 8:08pm On Sep 24, 2017
idris4r83:
bein sport is a very strong competitor to supersport in every part of this world bro.

Please read well before talking.

I already said with the proposed stations we are hearing, TSTV can compete. Didn't you see that one? Did I say who will win the market? That one is down to strategy but whether we like it or not, dstv remains premium brand.

Mind you I use the Explora and pay 12,100 for compact plus + extra view every month and if TSTV get things right that amount will crash. I always said this in my analyzes.

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Re: Gotv Is In Soup: Tstv To Take Over Dstv And Gotv By October by laribari(m): 8:12pm On Sep 24, 2017
giftedben:


When I looked at TSTV sports channels list, there was bein sports. I believe DSTV have finally meet their competitor.

I agree with you if the propose station is part of it. I have always said if I have the finance and I want to set up things like this and epl is the target. Just get sky sports 1-10 becos all the top epl pundits are majorly contracted to sky sport and BT sports.

Bein sports is loaded with sports across various leagues that the major advantage you will get from it. Super sport is limited to epl and la liga.

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Re: Gotv Is In Soup: Tstv To Take Over Dstv And Gotv By October by djgreenland(m): 8:15pm On Sep 24, 2017
samblaks:
It is a good news indeed. And I am one of the people patiently waiting for the commencement of their operations here in Nigeria by next month. I learnt that it's owned by the richest man in Zimbabwe who has studied the market very well, and has put in place all the necessary machineries to compete with the likes of dstv and co. and will even provide better services for intending customers through cheap decoder acquisition and affordable subscription rate. Free broadcast of some LIVE football matches especially the EPL and NPFL. The sector is gradually opening up just like telecommunications sector, and dstv's long term dominance will soon be eroded. Welcome development.
I was getting excited till I saw 'Zimbabwe'. What are our Nigeria Entrepreneurs doing please?
Re: Gotv Is In Soup: Tstv To Take Over Dstv And Gotv By October by Nobody: 8:45pm On Sep 24, 2017
Thats how they hyped freetv till today na charging i de take am do for house after 4days of use they ask me to recharge, na so i turn am to charger....
Bottom line: dstv/gotv go still a way to outshine these guys. Watch and see
prospernoah:
These guys are vexing bad bad o hehe

Have you heard of tstv? It's a new TV network in Nigeria that is believed to overtake almighty Gotv and Dstv the price is way cheap as they said its around 3000-5000 for the decoder.

Don't start looking for where to buy tstv yet o because they haven't launched officially yet till October.

But we hear things like they will be available in Lagos and other states first when they launch.

I have been looking for where to faint since, Gotv better do something or else.... Let me no say anything first

Source:

TstvAfrica

http://pronoahtech.com.ng/where-to-buy-tstv-in-nigeria/
Re: Gotv Is In Soup: Tstv To Take Over Dstv And Gotv By October by BlueRayDick: 8:55pm On Sep 24, 2017
laribari:


I don't even know what you are trying to say. I will pass becos I talked from a neutral point of view but obviously you are a TSTV fan boy already and called dstv much glorified which makes me feel your preference for TSTV once they come live. Let's say I got the HITV story wrong as you claimed but everything I said is true about the market. I thought you were going to tell me I was wrong about GOTV and star times. I will not go into arguments with you. If you claim dstv used politics against HITV, then hope they don't one way or the other kick out TSTV.

I only analyzed what goes on in the market and mind you whatever TSTV does, dstv will react. That's market strategy. Tell me I'm wrong and let's wait. I will retrace this thread even if it's next year.

Oga stop trying to be clever by half. Everything you said is true because? Because it is true abi?

I pointed it out to you that TSTV is coming to battle Dstv for their own market share like hitv did and nowhere did I make mention of gotv or startimes ish. So with all the stations you see TSTV is going to offer you think Gotv market share is their headache? So much for making Ur points from a neutral view point.

And yes, u got the whole hitv story all wrong.

I agree with you that Dstv will react which is the beauty of when a market loses its monopoly, and those to benefit from it will be the consumers who will have to make their choice. Dstv has been sitting on the high table for a long time and it's time for someone to make them shift grounds.

And don't quote me out of context, i said glorified Dstv stations that TSTV will definitely have substitute for. I was expecting u will understand this by meaning stations like telemundo and zee world most ladies crave will be catered for by TSTV. And that was why I said if the promoters of TSTV have studied the market well enough, they won't suffer the same fate as hitv.

Coca cola has the best strategist/ sales analyst around, yet they have been unable to kill off Pepsi and other 7up products in naija till date. Ponder on that

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Re: Gotv Is In Soup: Tstv To Take Over Dstv And Gotv By October by Caveatemptor(m): 9:30pm On Sep 24, 2017
While I am all for cheaper subscription that FSTV promises to bring,I am scared, because I was bitten badly by HiTV.
I lost a lot of money to HiTV subscription and I have not been able to recover same till date.
From my experience in Port Harcourt,CTL shows BeIN channels,but the reception is not very clear compared to DSTV.
Secondly most of the football commentaries are in Arabic language. Only one match,half time and post match analysis are in English. How will FSTV treat this issue?
Thirdly,I understand super sport,which is a subsidiary of Multichoice has EXCLUSIVE rights to the premier League in Africa,how will this work out?
CTL which shows BeIN sports is not a dish/decoder based company,they use basket antenna and the end product is not clear like DSTV HD channels.
If FSTV success I am all for cheaper subscription, but until then, I am in watch mode.

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Re: Gotv Is In Soup: Tstv To Take Over Dstv And Gotv By October by malton: 9:36pm On Sep 24, 2017
chukzyfcbb:


ahh fellow cule! March on bruh, as long as your area can get good signal. fire on!

Mes que un club.

Sure thing, bro.

Thanks!

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Re: Gotv Is In Soup: Tstv To Take Over Dstv And Gotv By October by Nobody: 9:37pm On Sep 24, 2017
samblaks:
It is a good news indeed. And I am one of the people patiently waiting for the commencement of their operations here in Nigeria by next month. I learnt that it's owned by the richest man in Zimbabwe who has studied the market very well, and has put in place all the necessary machineries to compete with the likes of dstv and co. and will even provide better services for intending customers through cheap decoder acquisition and affordable subscription rate. Free broadcast of some LIVE football matches especially the EPL and NPFL. The sector is gradually opening up just like telecommunications sector, and dstv's long term dominance will soon be eroded. Welcome development.

Owned by a Nigerian.
Re: Gotv Is In Soup: Tstv To Take Over Dstv And Gotv By October by laribari(m): 9:43pm On Sep 24, 2017
BlueRayDick:


Oga stop trying to be clever by half. Everything you said is true because? Because it is true abi?

I pointed it out to you that TSTV is coming to battle Dstv for their own market share like hitv did and nowhere did I make mention of gotv or startimes ish. So with all the stations you see TSTV is going to offer you think Gotv market share is their headache? So much for making Ur points from a neutral view point.

And yes, u got the whole hitv story all wrong.

I agree with you that Dstv will react which is the beauty of when a market loses its monopoly, and those to benefit from it will be the consumers who will have to make their choice. Dstv has been sitting on the high table for a long time and it's time for someone to make them shift grounds.

And don't quote me out of context, i said glorified Dstv stations that TSTV will definitely have substitute for. I was expecting u will understand this by meaning stations like telemundo and zee world most ladies crave will be catered for by TSTV. And that was why I said if the promoters of TSTV have studied the market well enough, they won't suffer the same fate as hitv.

Coca cola has the best strategist/ sales analyst around, yet they have been unable to kill off Pepsi and other 7up products in naija till date. Ponder on that

Pls don't make m laff! You are sounding u know it all but you don't even understand what I said you a just talking.

You held on to what I said on HITV based on reports which u claimed to be wrong. I don't mind if it's wrong but that doesn't mak my point invalid. U are just being too know here.

Whether it's by politics or whatever means, what I said is hope TSTV won't end up like HITV that won't survive for long.

For every 10 business created, 4 dies in the first 3 yrs and a further 5 dies at the end of 5 yrs and only two make it.

I pray TSTV does well but my point is clear. Operating for 3 yrs sef does n guarantee their future, after all HITV worked for a few years and died for whatever reason, so I'm saying for whatever reason hope they won't end like HITV. My point I simple and clear because many reasons can make a business fold. So don't take advantage of the HITV story u claim to know too well my points still stands.

I hope TSTV will not end up the HITV way. We have seen several stations leave dstv and Euro sport is among them and One gospel too. I'm just saying becos it takes a lot to get to dstv level which they built over time. If you rush and you get great growth. Will u b able to sustain the growth? So I hope they don't end like HITV because it's beyond just having stations.

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Re: Gotv Is In Soup: Tstv To Take Over Dstv And Gotv By October by dustmalik: 9:56pm On Sep 24, 2017
Caveatemptor:
While I am all for cheaper subscription that FSTV promises to bring,I am scared, because I was bitten badly by HiTV.
I lost a lot of money to HiTV subscription and I have not been able to recover same till date.
From my experience in Port Harcourt,CTL shows BeIN channels,but the reception is not very clear compared to DSTV.
Secondly most of the football commentaries are in Arabic language. Only one match,half time and post match analysis are in English. How will FSTV treat this issue?
Thirdly,I understand super sport,which is a subsidiary of Multichoice has EXCLUSIVE rights to the premier League in Africa,how will this work out?
CTL which shows BeIN sports is not a dish/decoder based company,they use basket antenna and the end product is not clear like DSTV HD channels.
If FSTV success I am all for cheaper subscription, but until then, I am in watch mode.
Concerning video quality, Unlike CTL/Trendtv, TStv promises to deliver bein sports HD 2 to 10, all in HD, so video quality shouldn't be a problem. They also have Fox sports 2 HD and other HD channels.
Re: Gotv Is In Soup: Tstv To Take Over Dstv And Gotv By October by Nobody: 9:59pm On Sep 24, 2017
Why are you all sounding like Tstv's only intention is to take on Dstv.. can't they just operate like AcTv (launched in 2015), CTL, DaarSat, MetrodigitalTv etc.

Metrodigital Tv has all bein channels and has been operating for 4 years now.
Their sub is cheap too, only 3,300 or thereabout.

Tstv is here to stay.

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Re: Gotv Is In Soup: Tstv To Take Over Dstv And Gotv By October by Caveatemptor(m): 10:06pm On Sep 24, 2017
dustmalik:

Concerning video quality, Unlike CTL/Trendtv, TStv promises to deliver bein sports HD 2 to 10, all in HD, so video quality shouldn't be a problem. They also have Fox sports 2 HD and other HD channels.

Are the football match commentaries going to be in English or Arabic?
These are questions begging for answers.
Re: Gotv Is In Soup: Tstv To Take Over Dstv And Gotv By October by kally01(m): 10:09pm On Sep 24, 2017
ThatCEO:
I know there is a lot of excitement about this TSTV but they won't survive the competition.

They will show one or two epl matches but that's it. Dstv bought all the rights. Their operating margin is not realistic, just a strategy to enter the market be increasing their fees again.
Hopefully it will force DSTV to soften their fees.

Which one be BEin TV set? Abu wetin dem dey call am?

I stand with DSTV, expensive service with sweet Explora decorder, but they deserve their money.
keep advertising dstv ohh mtcheeew
Re: Gotv Is In Soup: Tstv To Take Over Dstv And Gotv By October by Nobody: 10:43pm On Sep 24, 2017
princetom1:


Am not for DSTV o bt u got it wrong, Supersport covers that part, which is local content. Will love this TSTV dou

cc: Shakol91
SuperSport is a South African group of television channels owned by Multichoice and carried on the DStv satellite platform. It provides sports content in South Africa and abroad. It also provides sports coverage in many other African countries. While beIN Sports is a global network of sports channels owned and operated by beIN Media Group, a spinoff of Al Jazeera Media Network. now i hope u see while they will beat dstv

Re: Gotv Is In Soup: Tstv To Take Over Dstv And Gotv By October by Nobody: 10:46pm On Sep 24, 2017
kally01:
keep advertising dstv ohh mtcheeew
Oga dstv bought which rights? DSTV PNLY BOUGHT MULTICHOICE RIGHTS AND THATS JUST IT..Nothing more supersport is an african channel owned by a south african..oya let them go buy all the rights from being sports,,and note tstv is not a satelite like dstv..tstv offers more

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Re: Gotv Is In Soup: Tstv To Take Over Dstv And Gotv By October by Caveatemptor(m): 10:57pm On Sep 24, 2017
The question no one has been able to answer is-IS THE COMMENTRY ON EPL MATCHES IN ENGLISH OR ARABIC?
Re: Gotv Is In Soup: Tstv To Take Over Dstv And Gotv By October by dustmalik: 10:58pm On Sep 24, 2017
Caveatemptor:


Are the football match commentaries going to be in English or Arabic?
These are questions begging for answers.
We shall find out in the next few days. Personally, I think there is too much unrealistic expectations.

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Re: Gotv Is In Soup: Tstv To Take Over Dstv And Gotv By October by Caveatemptor(m): 11:05pm On Sep 24, 2017
dustmalik:

We shall find out in the next few days. Personally, I think there is too much unrealistic expectations.

I used the CTL basket antenna when I was based in Port Harcourt and I am telling you that the football comentries were all in Arabic,only half time analysis and post match analysis were in English.
These questions need to be answered,because if these channels are meant for the Arab world and some one is trying to play a fast one by bringing the content to Africa,then people could lose their money paid for subscription If legal/court battles ensue.
Re: Gotv Is In Soup: Tstv To Take Over Dstv And Gotv By October by judgedredd22(m): 11:12pm On Sep 24, 2017
Advans:


you are absolutely right. Hitv & Dstv bought epl view rights from the same company that is why they can't both air same live match at same time. Tstv is subscribing to Bein sport so they can compete with Dstv. My only concern is d language of commentary. I don't think bein sport has English audio channel

bein sports transmits in USA and Uk, which language do you think they broadcast in?

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Re: Gotv Is In Soup: Tstv To Take Over Dstv And Gotv By October by judgedredd22(m): 11:17pm On Sep 24, 2017
BlueRayDick:


Oga stop trying to be clever by half. Everything you said is true because? Because it is true abi?

I pointed it out to you that TSTV is coming to battle Dstv for their own market share like hitv did and nowhere did I make mention of gotv or startimes ish. So with all the stations you see TSTV is going to offer you think Gotv market share is their headache? So much for making Ur points from a neutral view point.

And yes, u got the whole hitv story all wrong.

I agree with you that Dstv will react which is the beauty of when a market loses its monopoly, and those to benefit from it will be the consumers who will have to make their choice. Dstv has been sitting on the high table for a long time and it's time for someone to make them shift grounds.

And don't quote me out of context, i said glorified Dstv stations that TSTV will definitely have substitute for. I was expecting u will understand this by meaning stations like telemundo and zee world most ladies crave will be catered for by TSTV. And that was why I said if the promoters of TSTV have studied the market well enough, they won't suffer the same fate as hitv.

Coca cola has the best strategist/ sales analyst around, yet they have been unable to kill off Pepsi and other 7up products in naija till date. Ponder on that

Re: Gotv Is In Soup: Tstv To Take Over Dstv And Gotv By October by Dantedasz(m): 11:18pm On Sep 24, 2017
People should be careful and not get carried away by euphoria. Like I said on the other thread I still have one complete years subscription locked up in my moribund HiTV decoder and no one has admitted liability for this. Even one of the analysts on HiTV is now a commissioner in Lagos state.
Look before you leap,because that's what I will do before committing a penny into this new station. I dislike DSTV for their financial rip off but I don t wanna jump from frying pan to the fire.
Re: Gotv Is In Soup: Tstv To Take Over Dstv And Gotv By October by judgedredd22(m): 11:19pm On Sep 24, 2017
Caveatemptor:


I used the CTL basket antenna when I was based in Port Harcourt and I am telling you that the football comentries were all in Arabic,only half time analysis and post match analysis were in English.
These questions need to be answered,because if these channels are meant for the Arab world and some one is trying to play a fast one by bringing the content to Africa,then people could lose their money paid for subscription If legal/court battles ensue.


so in 2017, with all the internet and free information all over the web, this is the best line of thought you could come up with?
that is highly disappointing and shameful!!

Re: Gotv Is In Soup: Tstv To Take Over Dstv And Gotv By October by judgedredd22(m): 11:23pm On Sep 24, 2017
Dantedasz:
People should be careful and not get carried away by euphoria. Like I said on the other thread I still have one complete years subscription locked up in my moribund HiTV decoder and no one has admitted liability for this. Even one of the analysts on HiTV is now a commissioner in Lagos state.
Look before you leap,because that's what I will do before committing a penny into this new station. I dislike DSTV for their financial rip off but I don t wanna jump from frying pan to the fire.

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Re: Gotv Is In Soup: Tstv To Take Over Dstv And Gotv By October by Caveatemptor(m): 11:26pm On Sep 24, 2017
judgedredd22:



so in 2017, with all the internet and free information all over the web, this is the best line of thought you could come up with?
that is highly disappointing and shameful!!

Sir,
Could you please run it by me like I am a five year old child and answer the question: Is BeIN tv for Arabic countries or African countries?
Which company owns the rights to the English broadcast of the EPL in Africa?
I await your cerebral response sir.

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Re: Gotv Is In Soup: Tstv To Take Over Dstv And Gotv By October by Dantedasz(m): 11:30pm On Sep 24, 2017
[quote author=judgedredd22 post=60798803][/quote]

When you start working and pay for your subscription with your own money,you can ask me that question.
Re: Gotv Is In Soup: Tstv To Take Over Dstv And Gotv By October by Fussbot: 11:34pm On Sep 24, 2017
I want to buy gotv this week, really don't know if I should chill
Re: Gotv Is In Soup: Tstv To Take Over Dstv And Gotv By October by laliga01: 11:47pm On Sep 24, 2017
laribari:


I have said it before and will say it again. A big brand is a big brand ooo! Dstv is experience and knows the Nigerian market wella, besides they are a company with deep pocket. Have you wondered why HITV died? HItV hijacked the right for EPL in Nigeria for a season and left dstv by surprise but what did dstv do?

They endured that one year and only showed selected matches but not all big games. Guess what dstv did? Before that same season ended, they purchased the right for 5 yrs straights running from a fresh season becos of their deep pocket. They crippled HITV. It's not as if both of them can't show it at the same time, of cos if both does people will still buy HITV cos it's cheaper but what I think is that both are using the same source to air live games, so only one of them can sir it as a means of protecting their brand. If you must also show it, you will buy the right from them and they will only give you selected games. Not all games! They paid HITV in their own coin.

This was what buried HITV! So when star times came with their own 1,000 naira subscription, what did multichoice do? They launch a new product in GOTV that will play in that lower league to tackle star times becos obviously DSTV is premium brand and can't be selling at same price with star times. So all they needed to do was bring some Kool channels from DSTV to GOTV and pay less to watch it. So ordinarily, people still wanna watch epl (super sport select 1 &2), watch CNN, Africa magic (yoruba, igbo & hausa) etc. GOTV does not even have to sell at same rate with star time as they are slightly expensive, yet star times can't take GOTV out of the market. In a few years time star times may shut down if their profit isn't taking care of their expenses. This is trade!

So let's see their reaction to TSTV. As a sales manager in a multinational brand in Nigeria, I know they will react and that's to probably slightly reduce price of dstv subscription or introduce some new exciting features to their lower bouquets, make their dstv decorder cheaper or to do an upgrade GOTV in terms of channels to compete with TSTV. I'm sure GOTV will come with some Kool stuff to match TSTV cos that GOTV is their weapon to fight off competition when it comes to pricing. TSTV must be ready ooo!

To out class dstv in Nigeria will be hard. TSTV must find a way to rival super sports, Africa magic, CNN if they want to stay very long and also win the market share.

From the list of their proposed channels TSTV can compete but what features will their decorder give you? What is that new thing you can get from outside dstv? They must address that too.

Brother, thanks for all the write up, very educative and informative but the truth is, EPL right is the major thing holding down multi choice in nigeria.
If tstv can maneuver a way to show EPL matches along side dstv/ Gotv, forget other stations.
The market will break even.
Keynote: EPL/champions league is the selling point.

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Re: Gotv Is In Soup: Tstv To Take Over Dstv And Gotv By October by judgedredd22(m): 11:50pm On Sep 24, 2017
Caveatemptor:


Sir,
Could you please run it by me like I am a five year old child and answer the question: Is BeIN tv for Arabic countries or African countries?
Which company owns the rights to the English broadcast of the EPL in Africa?
I await your cerebral response sir.


if you had any cerebral inclination, you wouldn't be asking this dumb question after reading my initial response!!

NB: the answer you seek is in-between those lines, use your brain (if you have one, that is!)
Re: Gotv Is In Soup: Tstv To Take Over Dstv And Gotv By October by judgedredd22(m): 11:52pm On Sep 24, 2017
laliga01:


Brother, thanks for all the write up, very educative and informative but the truth is, EPL right is the major thing holding down multi choice in nigeria.
If tstv can maneuver a way to show EPL matches along side dstv/ Gotv, forget other stations.
The market will break even.
Keynote: EPL/champions league is the selling point.


this is highly disappointing... don't you people have internet

goddamiit !!! information is everywhere on the web and you people keep coming up with dumbasss questions and trains of thought! haba!!!!
Re: Gotv Is In Soup: Tstv To Take Over Dstv And Gotv By October by judgedredd22(m): 11:53pm On Sep 24, 2017
Dantedasz:


When you start working and pay for your subscription with your own money,you can ask me that question.

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