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Re: Atheists And Morality. A Question! by butterflyl1on: 10:10pm On Sep 30, 2017 |
DeSepiero: Would you want your woman or wife to play the field to prove you selflessly love her? |
Re: Atheists And Morality. A Question! by shaybebaby(f): 10:11pm On Sep 30, 2017 |
butterflyl1on:Because it speaks of less desirable attributes, deceptiveness, fecklessness, inconsideration, selfishness. Also because it causes emotional distress to spouse when they find out. Empathy makes it so that we can feel the pain of others, put ourselves in their shoes and thats why we may disapprove of acts of infidelity. Still, it is not a crime because the wronged party is free to call time on the relationship. |
Re: Atheists And Morality. A Question! by shaybebaby(f): 10:12pm On Sep 30, 2017 |
butterflyl1on:No you only stated that it may be different in some aspects to what it might mean for me. |
Re: Atheists And Morality. A Question! by vaxx: 10:12pm On Sep 30, 2017 |
shaybebaby:it is subjective.....( emotional traits ) as human our want and needs changes as time continue due to eviromental, technological and social factor....what the present generation dream to be as human is difference from the past generation... |
Re: Atheists And Morality. A Question! by butterflyl1on: 10:13pm On Sep 30, 2017 |
shaybebaby: I never said it was a crime. I said why is it wrong if societal laws do not deem them so. Leave emotions out of it. It takes 2 to tango. One party says it is right while the other says it is wrong so where then is the meeting point? What gives one joy can bring sorrow to another. Wouldn't you agree? |
Re: Atheists And Morality. A Question! by DeSepiero(m): 10:14pm On Sep 30, 2017 |
butterflyl1on: I am SELFISH too 1 Like |
Re: Atheists And Morality. A Question! by AgentOfAllah: 10:16pm On Sep 30, 2017 |
DeSepiero:I can't think of a more selfish act than to bind and personalise other people's love and bodies to us using a symbolic ring and autographed papers. Yet the person making this argument claims love is selfless. 1 Like |
Re: Atheists And Morality. A Question! by shaybebaby(f): 10:16pm On Sep 30, 2017 |
butterflyl1on:It is wrong if there is deception involved. Call it false representation. |
Re: Atheists And Morality. A Question! by butterflyl1on: 10:16pm On Sep 30, 2017 |
DeSepiero: So why is it wrong to selflessly allow her play the field Afterall there are men who term themselves cuckolds or swingers and see nothing wrong with such a lifestyle. Why is it wrong to you then if it is right to them? |
Re: Atheists And Morality. A Question! by butterflyl1on: 10:17pm On Sep 30, 2017 |
AgentOfAllah: Is marriage a prison? |
Re: Atheists And Morality. A Question! by DeSepiero(m): 10:18pm On Sep 30, 2017 |
AgentOfAllah: Ironic |
Re: Atheists And Morality. A Question! by AgentOfAllah: 10:18pm On Sep 30, 2017 |
butterflyl1on:If you choose to make it so. |
Re: Atheists And Morality. A Question! by butterflyl1on: 10:19pm On Sep 30, 2017 |
shaybebaby: Deception can also serve a good purpose. So who determines good from bad deception? Is all deception not meant to be the same? |
Re: Atheists And Morality. A Question! by shaybebaby(f): 10:19pm On Sep 30, 2017 |
vaxx:What are the most basic human needs common across cultures and throughout our existence as species? |
Re: Atheists And Morality. A Question! by shaybebaby(f): 10:20pm On Sep 30, 2017 |
butterflyl1on:Example? |
Re: Atheists And Morality. A Question! by vaxx: 10:22pm On Sep 30, 2017 |
shaybebaby:survival |
Re: Atheists And Morality. A Question! by AgentOfAllah: 10:22pm On Sep 30, 2017 |
shaybebaby:Religion, perhaps!? |
Re: Atheists And Morality. A Question! by butterflyl1on: 10:25pm On Sep 30, 2017 |
shaybebaby: Husband needs a child for sake of posterity but has been unable to impregnate wife. She decides for his sake to try outside so as to give him a child without his knowledge. She succeeds! He is happy and so is she. 2. Someone you do not like coming around your wife comes for a visit and asks for her and you say she is out while she is sleeping in the room. Deceptively making sure he does not see her. She did hers for sake of your joy You did yours for sake of peace Are those deceptions bad? |
Re: Atheists And Morality. A Question! by DeSepiero(m): 10:25pm On Sep 30, 2017 |
butterflyl1on: Ain't you going in circles? I said, it's because I'm selfish with her. 2 Likes |
Re: Atheists And Morality. A Question! by butterflyl1on: 10:27pm On Sep 30, 2017 |
DeSepiero: I am not. The question is who then determines right from wrong as a consensus when what is right to you can be wrong to another and vice versa This was doctoraliens position |
Re: Atheists And Morality. A Question! by Nobody: 10:28pm On Sep 30, 2017 |
AgentOfAllah: romantic love is fish love https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNx7kDJ2kDI 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Atheists And Morality. A Question! by vaxx: 10:28pm On Sep 30, 2017 |
Buterflyl1on ....one day our society we accept bestiality as a culture...... Human rights will protect them....and it shall become moral.... You can see the damage of a society without God consciousness 1 Like |
Re: Atheists And Morality. A Question! by dalaman: 10:28pm On Sep 30, 2017 |
butterflyl1on: Some of them might include over all benefit to the society, if it will lead to general societal progress and stability, if it will promote peaceful coexistence and harmony, if it will promote development, if it will make the majority not to disturb the leadership and go against them, If it will keep the people in line and make them not to challenge the leadership, if it will secure the general society as a whole, if it will protect the interest of the leadership and make them look good or have their way etc. There are a myriad of reasons why the leadership will label something as good or evil. 2 Likes |
Re: Atheists And Morality. A Question! by shaybebaby(f): 10:30pm On Sep 30, 2017 |
AgentOfAllah:Savage! 1 Like |
Re: Atheists And Morality. A Question! by dalaman: 10:30pm On Sep 30, 2017 |
vaxx: What is God consiiousness? Societies with God consiousness accepted and practiced slavery, genocide, segregation, pillage, incest, rape etc so what exactly are you saying? 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Atheists And Morality. A Question! by butterflyl1on: 10:32pm On Sep 30, 2017 |
dalaman: so as Vaxx just said, if those who crave sodomy now lobby and harass the government to make it legal and they do. would you subscribe to it as the latest moral law? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Atheists And Morality. A Question! by vaxx: 10:34pm On Sep 30, 2017 |
dalaman:you do not belive in God existence... So my definition on what is God consciousness to you will not be accepted.... But you have not deal with my question...what is good and bad in the light of common sense? Let's forget about God now.... |
Re: Atheists And Morality. A Question! by DoctorAlien(m): 10:34pm On Sep 30, 2017 |
butterflyl1on:
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Re: Atheists And Morality. A Question! by dalaman: 10:35pm On Sep 30, 2017 |
DoctorAlien: In reality there is no society where 99% will see nothing wrong with murder rape and racism. That is why I told you to tell us why it is beneficial to the society. Even in a society where 99% are rapist they will NOT be able to tell.you why rape is beneficial to the society. 1 Like |
Re: Atheists And Morality. A Question! by DeSepiero(m): 10:37pm On Sep 30, 2017 |
butterflyl1on: A consensus is not arrived at by one person. In a society such a consensus is reached by a senate / parliament. 1 Like |
Re: Atheists And Morality. A Question! by dalaman: 10:38pm On Sep 30, 2017 |
butterflyl1on: Of course. They just did the in the United states. If you are in the US and happen to be a judge that weds people in the courts and gays come to you to wed them, you must do it because it is the law of the land and you can NOT be seen discriminating against them. You do it and you lose your Job or face severe sanctions. 2 Likes |
Re: Atheists And Morality. A Question! by butterflyl1on: 10:38pm On Sep 30, 2017 |
DeSepiero: Good! if those who crave sodomy now lobby and harass the Senate / parliament to make it legal and they do. would you subscribe to it as the latest moral law? |
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