DeSepiero:


When we want a woman (our wife) to have sex with no one else than us, we are being selfish.

butterflyl1on:


Sneaking.

butterflyl1on:


I already did

shaybebaby:

You misunderstand my question, I am not asking for a definition of being human.
I am asking you what it means to you(vaxx) to be human. What makes vaxx human, what does vaxx want as a human?

shaybebaby:

Because it speaks of less desirable attributes, deceptiveness, fecklessness, inconsideration, selfishness.
Also because it causes emotional distress to spouse when they find out.

Empathy makes it so that we can feel the pain of others, put ourselves in their shoes and thats why we may disapprove of acts of infidelity.

Still, it is not a crime because the wronged party is free to call time on the relationship.

butterflyl1on:


Would you want your woman or wife to play the field to prove you selflessly love her?

DeSepiero:


When we want a woman (our wife) to have sex with no one else than us, we are being selfish.

butterflyl1on:


I never said it was a crime. I said why is it wrong if societal laws do not deem them so.

Leave emotions out of it. It takes 2 to tango. One party says it is right while the other says it is wrong so where then is the meeting point?

What gives one joy can bring sorrow to another. Wouldn't you agree?

DeSepiero:


I am SELFISH too

AgentOfAllah:

I can't think of a more selfish act than to bind and personalise other people's love and bodies to us using a symbolic ring and autographed papers. Yet the person making this argument claims love is selfless.

AgentOfAllah:

I can't think of a more selfish act than to bind and personalise other people's love and bodies to us using a symbolic ring and autographed papers. Yet the person making this argument claims love is selfless.

butterflyl1on:


Is marriage a prison?

shaybebaby:

It is wrong if there is deception involved. Call it false representation.

vaxx:
it is subjective.....( emotional traits ) as human our want and needs changes as time continue due to eviromental, technological and social factor....what the present generation dream to be as human is difference from the past generation...

butterflyl1on:


Deception can also serve a good purpose. So who determines good from bad deception?

Is all deception not meant to be the same?

shaybebaby:

What are the most basic human needs common across cultures and throughout our existence as species?

shaybebaby:

Example?

shaybebaby:

Example?

butterflyl1on:


So why is it wrong to selflessly allow her play the field Afterall there are men who term themselves cuckolds or swingers and see nothing wrong with such a lifestyle. Why is it wrong to you then if it is right to them?

DeSepiero:


Ain't you going in circles? I said, it's because I'm selfish with her.

AgentOfAllah:

I can't think of a more selfish act than to bind and personalise other people's love and bodies to us using a symbolic ring and autographed papers. Yet the person making this argument claims love is selfless.

butterflyl1on:


What are the many variables they use to determine what is good and bad?

AgentOfAllah:

Religion, perhaps!?

vaxx:
Buterflyl1on ....one day our society we accept bestiality as a culture...... Human rights will protect them....and it shall become moral....

You can see the damage of a society without God consciousness

dalaman:


Some of them might include over all benefit to the society, if it will lead to general societal progress and stability, if it will promote peaceful coexistence and harmony, if it will promote development, if it will make the majority not to disturb the leadership and go against them, If it will keep the people in line and make them not to challenge the leadership, if it will secure the general society as a whole, if it will protect the interest of the leadership and make them look good or have their way etc. There are a myriad of reasons why the leadership will label something as good or evil.

dalaman:


What is God consiiousness? Societies with God consiousness accepted and practiced slavery, genocide, segregation, pillage, incest, rape etc so what exactly are you saying?

butterflyl1on:


so as Vaxx just said, if those who crave sodomy now lobby and harass the government to make it legal and they do. would you subscribe to it as the latest moral law?

DoctorAlien:


You said that the leaders determine what is beneficial to the society. Why then would racism, murder and adultery be wrong in a society where 99.9% of the members see nothing wrong with racism, murder and adultery, and in which the leaders are among the 99.9%?

Sir, what do the leaders need time to do?

butterflyl1on:


I am not.

The question is who then determines right from wrong as a consensus when what is right to you can be wrong to another and vice versa

This was doctoraliens position

butterflyl1on:


so as Vaxx just said, if those who crave sodomy now lobby and harass the government to make it legal and they do. would you subscribe to it as the latest moral law?

DeSepiero:


A consensus is not arrived at by one person. In a society such a consensus is reached by a senate / parliament.