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Re: Who Was Olaudah Equiano? Google Marks 272nd Birthday Of Abolitionist by Nobody: 8:55pm On Oct 16, 2017
aribisala0:


Can you point to one single example of an Eboe man whose name is Ola----- anything

Just one!!

Show me an Igbo girl that answers Mgbeke
Re: Who Was Olaudah Equiano? Google Marks 272nd Birthday Of Abolitionist by aribisala0(m): 8:56pm On Oct 16, 2017
Ngozi123:


Please stop dwelling in ignorance. Even in Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie’s book “Half of a Yellow Sun”, the protagonist was called ‘Olanna’. It’s an Igbo name- just accept it.

Eboe men do not answer Ola that is not a man's name
Re: Who Was Olaudah Equiano? Google Marks 272nd Birthday Of Abolitionist by Ngozi123(f): 8:57pm On Oct 16, 2017
aribisala0:

The question was is it a man or woman's name . Was the person in the book a man or woman.

She was a woman!!
Eboes and lying is like rice and stew

Nope. He claimed that it wasn’t an Igbo name at all and we’ve disproved this. Most Igbo names are unisex so I’m not quite sure why you find it so hard to believe that names beginning with ‘ola-‘ can be used for both boys and girls. I hope you know that my name, Ngozi, is also unisex...

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Re: Who Was Olaudah Equiano? Google Marks 272nd Birthday Of Abolitionist by aribisala0(m): 8:58pm On Oct 16, 2017
giftq:

Show me an Igbo girl that answers Mgbeke
I cannot show you but I can tell you where she lives. You know each other quite well actually
Re: Who Was Olaudah Equiano? Google Marks 272nd Birthday Of Abolitionist by Nobody: 8:59pm On Oct 16, 2017
aribisala0:

I cannot show you but I can tell you where she lives. You know each other quite well actually
Show me the girl that answers Mgbeke, dont show me a house.
Re: Who Was Olaudah Equiano? Google Marks 272nd Birthday Of Abolitionist by Nobody: 9:01pm On Oct 16, 2017
Ngozi123:


Nope. He claimed that it wasn’t an Igbo name at all and we’ve disproved this. Most Igbo names are unisex so I’m not quite sure why you find it so hard to believe that names beginning with ‘ola-‘ can be used for both boys and girls. I hope you know that my name, Ngozi, is also unisex...
1. Ngozi is unisex
2. Chioma is unisex
3. Ugochukwu is unisex
4. Chibuzo is unisex
5. Onyekachi is unisex
6. etc etc

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Re: Who Was Olaudah Equiano? Google Marks 272nd Birthday Of Abolitionist by Ngozi123(f): 9:02pm On Oct 16, 2017
aribisala0:


Eboe men do not answer Ola that is not a man's name

Look up “Ekene Olaedo Ejiofor” on Google. He is an Igbo blogger from Anambra State.

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Re: Who Was Olaudah Equiano? Google Marks 272nd Birthday Of Abolitionist by bigfrancis21: 9:03pm On Oct 16, 2017
giftq:

Do Igbo girls answer Mgbeke?
Is Mgbeke a girl's name?

My brother, just ignore those people. It is a free world and nowadays people are free to live out their fantasies. No credible source or scholar has pointed to a non-Igbo African origin for Olaudah Equiano. His birthplace may have been debated, but one's birthplace (where one was born) and origin mean two different things. His Igbo origin is confirmed, linguistically and academically. Ignore them, I am in the US and Olaudah Equiano is quite popular among early black slave abolitionists and every single credible scholar here agrees that he was an Igbo man. Leave our fellow half-baked so-called university graduates to run around in circles despite enormous facts facing them hard in the face.

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Re: Who Was Olaudah Equiano? Google Marks 272nd Birthday Of Abolitionist by aribisala0(m): 9:07pm On Oct 16, 2017
Ngozi123:


Nope. He claimed that it wasn’t an Igbo name at all and we’ve disproved this. Most Igbo names are unisex so I’m not quite sure why you find it so hard to believe that names beginning with ‘ola-‘ can be used for both boys and girls. I hope you know that my name, Ngozi, is also unisex...
We all know that Ola is an Eboe name and have said so several pages ago.
I do not know any female Shinedu,Emeka,Shukudi or Ikeshuku,Okeshuku,Okonkwo,Nnamidi
or male Nkirus, Ada,Anwuli or Ego

Ego and Ola are particularly relevant here
Re: Who Was Olaudah Equiano? Google Marks 272nd Birthday Of Abolitionist by Nobody: 9:07pm On Oct 16, 2017
Ngozi123:


Look up “Ekene Olaedo Ejiofor” on Google. He is an Igbo blogger from Anambra State.

aribisala0 will still come up with another suffersticated and Igbophobic reason not to believe you.

https://twitter.com/asahelart

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Re: Who Was Olaudah Equiano? Google Marks 272nd Birthday Of Abolitionist by bigfrancis21: 9:08pm On Oct 16, 2017
Ngozi123:


Look up “Ekene Olaedo Ejiofor” on Google. He is an Igbo blogger from Anambra State.

Daalu rinne, ezigbo ada Igbo. I've snapped and uploaded his twitter profile here to clear unnecessary doubts.

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Re: Who Was Olaudah Equiano? Google Marks 272nd Birthday Of Abolitionist by aribisala0(m): 9:08pm On Oct 16, 2017
giftq:

Show me the girl that answers Mgbeke, dont show me a house.
your house
Re: Who Was Olaudah Equiano? Google Marks 272nd Birthday Of Abolitionist by Nobody: 9:08pm On Oct 16, 2017
bigfrancis21:


My brother, just ignore those people. It is a free world and nowadays people are free to live out their fantasies. No credible source or scholar has pointed to a non-Igbo African origin for Olaudah Equiano. His birthplace may have been debated, but one's birthplace (where one was born) and origin mean two different things. His Igbo origin is confirmed, linguistically and academically. Ignore them, I am in the US and Olaudah Equiano is quite popular among early black slave abolitionists and every single credible scholar here agrees that he was an Igbo man. Leave our fellow half-baked so-called university graduates to run around in circles despite enormous facts facing them hard in the face.
I will keep posting it: Igbo amaka

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Re: Who Was Olaudah Equiano? Google Marks 272nd Birthday Of Abolitionist by Drogbs: 9:09pm On Oct 16, 2017
una even get time to reply these yoruba trolls...
Re: Who Was Olaudah Equiano? Google Marks 272nd Birthday Of Abolitionist by ken2baba(m): 9:09pm On Oct 16, 2017
aribisala0:
don't be bitter Not every one is intelligent just thank God for whatevrer other blessings he chooses to give you.
I have no doubt you will be excellent with wood,a hammer and nails
Didn't know I was talking with an air headed simpleton.

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Re: Who Was Olaudah Equiano? Google Marks 272nd Birthday Of Abolitionist by Ngozi123(f): 9:12pm On Oct 16, 2017
aribisala0:
We all know that Ola is an Eboe name and have said so several pages ago.
I do not know any female Shinedu,Emeka,Shukudi or Ikeshuku,Okeshuku,Okonkwo,Nnamidi
or male Nkirus, Ada,Anwuli or Ego

Ego and Ola are particularly relevant here

Anwuli is short for Anwulika and it is a unisex name. Commonly in Igboland, names beginning with “Chukwu” are reserved for boys and some other names too. Some names like Amaka and Ada are reserved for girls due to their meanings but most Igbo names are unisex. I’ve already given you evidence of an Igbo guy who has a name beginning with “Ola-“ so that should put that argument to bed.

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Re: Who Was Olaudah Equiano? Google Marks 272nd Birthday Of Abolitionist by ezeagu(m): 9:12pm On Oct 16, 2017
aribisala0:
There is no scholarship on him period so save us the hyperbole.
It is really embarrassing to observe you folk in your desperation.

The truth is that a fully grown man wrote a book about his obscure origins and no one will ever know what the truth is.
What I do not believe is how anyone who is 11 years old brought up in a tribal setting as was precolonial Nigeria would forget his language.
People were not literate but they learnt their lineages, and other tribal stories . I am not Igbo but I read Achebe's Things Fall Apart decades ago and still remember many of the proverbs and sayings.
Any such kid would know his lineage and the founder of his clan at the age of 11 in precolonial Igbo land and most of southern Nigeria. Certainly he would remember the names of his father and mother?

So you're comparing proverbs written in English to a man who had been separated from his language for over 30 years? Since he was a pre-pubescent? You don't know what you're talking about, if you did you'd know that there are Igbo words in his book and that Equiano himself said he was hired to speak Igbo to Igbo people working in Jamaica.

Stop being an ignorant African.

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Re: Who Was Olaudah Equiano? Google Marks 272nd Birthday Of Abolitionist by Nobody: 9:12pm On Oct 16, 2017
aribisala0:
your house
so we can conclude, using afonja logic, that Mgbeke is not a name for Igbo girls grin grin

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Re: Who Was Olaudah Equiano? Google Marks 272nd Birthday Of Abolitionist by aribisala0(m): 9:13pm On Oct 16, 2017
ken2baba:
Didn't know I was talking with an air headed simpleton.
Just follow your talent

[img]http://3.bp..com/-Uv99hXDTVRk/T2ArlI2N0AI/AAAAAAAAANc/UW2asxdtZ3Y/s1600/DSC_0161.JPG[/img]

You will be happy and fulfilled

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Re: Who Was Olaudah Equiano? Google Marks 272nd Birthday Of Abolitionist by Ngozi123(f): 9:13pm On Oct 16, 2017
giftq:


aribisala0 will still come up with another suffersticated and Igbophobic reason not to believe you.

https://twitter.com/asahelart

Don’t mind him. I’ve dealt with his kind before. All you need to do is throw facts at them.

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Re: Who Was Olaudah Equiano? Google Marks 272nd Birthday Of Abolitionist by Ngozi123(f): 9:14pm On Oct 16, 2017
bigfrancis21:


Daalu rinne, ezigbo ada Igbo. I've snapped and uploaded his twitter profile here to clear unnecessary doubts.

You’re welcome, my brother. Just throw facts at them and they will disappear.

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Re: Who Was Olaudah Equiano? Google Marks 272nd Birthday Of Abolitionist by ken2baba(m): 9:16pm On Oct 16, 2017
aribisala0:

Just follow your talent

[img]http://3.bp..com/-Uv99hXDTVRk/T2ArlI2N0AI/AAAAAAAAANc/UW2asxdtZ3Y/s1600/DSC_0161.JPG[/img]

You will be happy and fulfilled
If you see me physically, you will lie on d floor to greet me.

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Re: Who Was Olaudah Equiano? Google Marks 272nd Birthday Of Abolitionist by ezeagu(m): 9:16pm On Oct 16, 2017
One of the most remarkable features of Equiano’s story is his use of African origins to establish his credibility as a critic of European imperialism in Africa. Recent research, however, has raised questions about whether Equiano was born an Igbo (Ibo) in Africa, as he claims in his autobiography. His baptismal record in Westminster, England, lists him on February 9, 1759, as “Gustavus Vassa a Black born in Carolina 12 years old.” Scholars have also debated whether Equiano’s account of Igbo life in his autobiography is based on reading rather than memory. In the absence of scholarly consensus on these controversial matters, The Interesting Narrative remains a pivotal text in portraying Africa as neither morally benighted nor culturally backward but rather as a model of social harmony defiled by Euro-American greed.

https://www.britannica.com/art/African-American-literature#ref793482

Foolish Africans.

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Re: Who Was Olaudah Equiano? Google Marks 272nd Birthday Of Abolitionist by ken2baba(m): 9:19pm On Oct 16, 2017
giftq:


aribisala0 will still come up with another suffersticated and Igbophobic reason not to believe you.

https://twitter.com/asahelart
aribisala0:


Check out this guy answering Olaedo, u Thomas.

If you can't see it, click d Monika of d guy I quoted.
Re: Who Was Olaudah Equiano? Google Marks 272nd Birthday Of Abolitionist by ezeagu(m): 9:25pm On Oct 16, 2017
sukkot:
you cant enslave yoruba man. we are warriors. thats all propaganda. only igbos were enslaved. once olaudah stepped into igbo-land he got enslaved. had he remained in bini he would not be enslaved lmao

This is an Oyo man in Brazil, close your mouth small.

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Re: Who Was Olaudah Equiano? Google Marks 272nd Birthday Of Abolitionist by aribisala0(m): 9:26pm On Oct 16, 2017
ezeagu:


So you're comparing proverbs written in English to a man who had been separated from his language for over 30 years? Since he was a pre-pubescent? You don't know what you're talking about, if you did you'd know that there are Igbo words in his book and that Equiano himself said he was hired to speak Igbo to Igbo people working in Jamaica.

Stop being an ignorant African.
My point is there is no convincing evidence that he was even born in AFrica in the first place except for what he claims which he could have picked up from other slaves. He could mention Eboe words but not the names of his mother or father.? Is that credible

You are contradicting yourself. He was separated from his language for 30 years and then was hired to speak Eboe?

Do not insult Africans if I am ignorant I am ignorant period. Don't Africanize ignorance.One expects more sense than that from you.

If I am ignorant that is not a crime I am able and willing to be persuaded by facts if you can provide them.
Olaudah contradicted himself on at least two occasions saying he was born in the Americas.
uch of his narrative cannot be verified and the lack of a convincing narrative about his village and ancestry makes me doubt the whole enterprise.

Go and read the story of The Hebrew in captivity they anchored themselves and their origin firmly in memory . A child who is not literate has often highly developed linguistic memory. That was the African way. Every year he would hear verbal stories about his ancestors.
There is no way an 18th century Eboe child of 11 would not know about ancestor worship.

No way he would forget his father mother or cousins names. That is one thing he will hold on to till he dies and this man just appeared in high society and claimed to be from Africa. Even if he did not say he was Eboe I would not hold that against him because many people at that time did not identify that way rather it would be by clan. He would not forget his clan.Never!

You missed the point about proverbs my not so ignorant man. Let me break it down. I am not Ibo and yet I remember those proverbs in English. An 11 year old boy who was Ibo must surely remember some proverbs and stories

Just like one would imagine any 11 year old Jewish boy would not forget the story of their exodus from Egypt and crossing the Red Sea or the Holocaust.It is not credible no matter how long he is separated
Ditto for any Muslim who has learnt some verses of the Quran and so on. 11 years is not 6 years.
I am sure any 11 year old Ibo boy who was really told the story of Biafra would never forget ,let us leave it at that
Re: Who Was Olaudah Equiano? Google Marks 272nd Birthday Of Abolitionist by sukkot: 9:26pm On Oct 16, 2017
ezeagu:


This is an Oyo man in Brazil, close your mouth small.

cuz you posted a picture we are supposed to believe what you said ? lmao. whats his name and whats the story ?
Re: Who Was Olaudah Equiano? Google Marks 272nd Birthday Of Abolitionist by bigfrancis21: 9:29pm On Oct 16, 2017
Ngozi123:


You’re welcome, my brother. Just throw facts at them and they will disappear.

More and more african americans are matching their DNA to Igbo of South Eastern Nigeria. I belong to this closed group on facebook for African Americans interested in their African DNAs and many of them are coming up with Igbo matches.

We are yet to feel or imagine how enormous or widely spread Igbos were sent all over the world. DNA evidence indeed supports Douglas Chamber's figures of at least N1.4m carted away from Igboland.

This one took an Igbo surname: https://www.facebook.com/hasani.carter1
Hasani Carter-Nze

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Re: Who Was Olaudah Equiano? Google Marks 272nd Birthday Of Abolitionist by timsTNA: 9:34pm On Oct 16, 2017
giftq:

I will keep posting it: Igbo amaka

This your picture peppers them bad

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Re: Who Was Olaudah Equiano? Google Marks 272nd Birthday Of Abolitionist by Nobody: 9:35pm On Oct 16, 2017
timsTNA:


This your picture peppers them bad
hehehehehehehe
Its also known as "Osondi Owendi".
grin grin

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Re: Who Was Olaudah Equiano? Google Marks 272nd Birthday Of Abolitionist by bigfrancis21: 9:35pm On Oct 16, 2017
Ngozi123:


You’re welcome, my brother. Just throw facts at them and they will disappear.

This will interest you.

Read this man's very recent amazing discovery into the annals of time of the original name of his maternal great great great grandfather which happened to be Ogba Ogumba! His Igbo ancestor was renamed Luke upon entry into the US. To further confirm this, his DNA testing came up with an Igbo match.


Wednesday, October 11, 2017
Pinpointing the Origin of Family's Igbo Ancestry with DNA


DNA-testing multiple family members always prove to be extremely beneficial. About two years ago, I tested my mother’s first cousin with 23andMe. Cousin Armintha’s father and my mother’s father were brothers, so they share the same paternal grandparents, Bill & Sarah Reed of Tate County, Mississippi. Last week, while checking my cousin’s account for new matches, I saw a new DNA relative with an African name. This is always exciting! He shares 0.12% (9.0 cM) [2,240 SNPs] on chromosome 5 with Cousin Armintha. Luckily, his profile indicates that he was born to Nigerian parents of Igbo descent. To safeguard privacy, I will refer to him as Igbo Cousin 1. His posted surnames are Egolum and Anyiwo.

When I viewed the “Relatives in Common” section, I was pleasantly surprised. Igbo Cousin 1 also shares 9.0 cM of DNA [2,290 SNPs] with my mother and her brother, Uncle John. See Figure 1 below. He also matches Cousin Bryan, whose great-great-grandfather, Jerry Edwards, is strongly believed to be a brother to their great-grandfather, Prince Edwards, their Grandma Sarah Reed’s father. In the “Shared DNA” column, YES is noted for both my mother and Uncle John. According to 23andMe, “Shared DNA” means that an individual and their two genetic relatives share a portion of the same DNA segment. Therefore, since Igbo Cousin 1 is matching Cousin Armintha on a single chromosome 5 segment, my mother and Uncle John are also matching him on that same segment. NO is indicated for Cousin Bryan, so he is sharing DNA with Igbo Cousin 1, either on another chromosome or on a different section of chromosome 5.

“Ogba Ogumba” – an Igbo Name

As I revealed in previous blog posts, oral history and genealogical clues revealed that the parents of Jerry, Prince, Peter, and others were likely Luke Edwards (born c. 1790) and Lucy Edwards (born c. 1795 in Georgia), who may have been known as “Reedia.” The late Cousin Dr. Sidney Edwards Sr., a great-grandson of Jerry, interviewed family elders in Mississippi around 1970. They relayed to him that Luke told their grandparents that he was captured in Africa and brought to Virginia. I uncovered that he had been enslaved by William Edwards of Panola County, Mississippi. Not only that, Luke communicated to his family that his African name was “Ogba(r) Ogumba,” which he was forced to renounce. Recently, several Nigerians of Igbo descent claimed the name as theirs without hesitation. Read more about this here.

Our Igbo cousins are related to my Edwards family, either thru Ogba Ogumba or via Lucy. But as you may imagine, my bets are on Grandpa Ogba Ogumba! And I’m not a gambler. Maybe the future will reveal more definitive evidence. Interestingly, the parents of both Igbo cousins are originally from Anambra State, in southeast Nigeria, the heart of Igboland. But check this out! A tourist attraction in Anambra State are the Ogbunike Caves, which are a collection of caves that are situated in a valley blanketed by tropical rain forests behind the "Ogba Hills." Africans shrouded in those caves from slave-raiding convoys during the period of the transatlantic slave trade.

Leroy FrazierOctober 12, 2017 at 3:00 AM
This is so amazing Cousin Melvin. I am scheduled to visit, explore and establish businesses in the Southeast Region of Nigeria in March or April 2018. For the record, the Igbo people in that region are known to be very educated and prosperous. They have opened up their homes for our family to stay. They know about our ancestral research and hope that we will come to visit.

https://rootsrevealed..com/2017/10/pinpointing-origin-of-familys-igbo.html

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Re: Who Was Olaudah Equiano? Google Marks 272nd Birthday Of Abolitionist by ezeagu(m): 9:35pm On Oct 16, 2017
aribisala0:

My point is there is no convincing evidence that he was even born in AFrica in the first place except for what he claims which he could have picked up from other slaves. He could mention Eboe words but not the names of his mother or father.? Is that credible

You are contradicting yourself. He was separated from his language for 30 years and then was hired to speak Eboe?

Do not insult Africans if I am ignorant I am ignorant period. Don't Africanize ignorance.One expects more sense than that from you.

If I am ignorant that is not a crime I am able and willing to be persuaded by facts if you can provide them.
Olaudah contradicted himself on at least two occasions saying he was born in the Americas.
uch of his narrative cannot be verified and the lack of a convincing narrative about his village and ancestry makes me doubt the whole enterprise.

Go and read the story of The Hebrew in captivity they anchored themselves and their origin firmly in memory . A child who is not literate has often highly developed linguistic memory. That was the African way. Every year he would hear verbal stories about his ancestors.
There is no way an 18th century Eboe child of 11 would not know about ancestor wordhip.

No way he would forget his father mother or cousins names. That is one thing he will hold on to till he dies and this man just appeared in high society and claimed to be from Africa. Even if he did not say he was Eboe I would not hold that against him because many people at that time did not identify that way rather it would be by clan. He would not forget his clan.Never!

Who said he forgot his clan? Are we not reading Essaka in his book? Your argument is decades late, his origin has been placed to be more than likely in Igboland, and as has been said his nationalistic stance regarding his Igbo identity probably means he could have been Igbo even if he was born in the Carolinas, apart from that you're expecting an 11 year old child with poor English who was seen as property to have solid information on his documents, you're expecting a man who had to take the legal name of Gustavus Vassa in order not to be mistaken as an unsold African to be completely transparent in all of his dealings even when his friend had been kidnapped and sold into slavery?

Your arguments are pointless. Olaudah Euqiano used an Igbo name and an Igbo identity, whether by birth or by choice, he is Igbo.

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