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Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by clefstone(m): 7:51am On Nov 05, 2017
MrMystrO:
I am not a Christian neither do i belong to any Religion whatsoever, but i do believe Religion is still an absolute necessity For a lot of people, especially those from Third world countries like Nigeria! Yes, and here's why i think so: :
I am a deist, or theist at best, But contrary to my previous beliefs, i don't think our people,that is, ordinary Nigerians are Ready for the Raw undiluted truths about Reality and Life just yet. Religion was designed by a Group of Extremely smart men as a Tool for General mental slavery for the masses by playing on the mind of the individual, Providing them with easy answers to the most fundamental questions we ask as humans, Thereby keeping them all away from seeking further truths, and instead more concerned about other less complex things. The Truth is that this has really helped in keeping the masses in a tightly controlled state and also helped avoid the chaos that would occur if people discovered the real truths about Reality and Life itself. I do think the decline of Religion is inevitable and someday, our future generations to come will look back and laugh at how stupid we were for actually Believing some of the most unrealistic, extremely obvious fables man has ever known, and still claim to be advanced people. But That is still a long way to come and as for now, people especially in countries like Nigeria don't need to know the Raw truths just yet, Imagine a Murderer or a kidnapper,or a robber or rapist eventually turning to an atheist?? Doesn't sound too Nice right? What will be the inner force that will torment their conscience after committing Horrible acts? Some people haven't developed stable minds up to this time, to be able to act Right and possess good moral standards without religion just yet. So most people still need Jesus, Buddha, Mohammed and the rest in their lives for now before they can talk about moving on to deeper truths. So contrary to my previous beliefs that we as a people need to be free from Religious slavery, I now realize that Religion is absolutely necessary to Help maintain Order in the Society so for now, Daddy freeze should let Christians and other people practicing their various religions to be. This is my own take on this issue.
How can u be a theist without being religious? Once you believe in God you will certainly find a way to reach him, that finding him is what religion is

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Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by MrMystrO(m): 7:57am On Nov 05, 2017
aribisala0:


I think there are several assertions you make that are just as ignorant and baseless as many religions or doctrines. And your understanding of "REALITY" is very superficial. Everybdy is different and your reality is not the same as that of the next guy. It is night right now and at the same time morning somewhere else.
Religion and the associated "fables" as you call them have great utility just like watching a film or a play. The extent to which we believe "fables" or films etc varies with our development

A man sees a woman and she is "beautiful" ditto for a lion and lioness . Is beauty a fable? Everything is useful at some time for a little time even if only to better understand reality.
So when you tell your self you know the raw truths about life and reality you are only indulging yourself.
Yes organized relligion has many things wrong with it but it is useful for its subscribers at whatever level of evolveent they find themselves.
There is nothing like an abolute reality

What is shitt for one animal is food fo another

And at the End of the day, We both have similar views. Thank you for this beautiful Piece.
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by jacyhelen(f): 7:59am On Nov 05, 2017
Faith makes many things work in ur life not Titeing...
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by Mailthaddeus(m): 8:00am On Nov 05, 2017
[quote author=YoungRichRuler post=62076289]If it's lalasticl.ala, it's frontpage

Well, I'm a Christian.
I give my tithes.
I'm not forced or coerced to give it.

Jesus died that I might have life in Abundance, to the full, till it overflows.

If folks under the old covenant pay 10%,
I'm under a better covenant and my God deserve more than 10%.


If I don't pay my tithes, there is NO curse that will come upon me because I've been redeemed from the curse of the law. [/quote

Nice one bro. U nailed it in totality. Aw Far Nah? Am available for tutoring

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Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by iamjavadem(m): 8:00am On Nov 05, 2017
eleojo23:
Rebellion comes when you make something a law.
The reason why some Christians are supporting Freeze is because most preachers have made it a law and even threaten people that their lives will be cursed because they don't give tithe. Some even say stuffs like "if you don't give tithe, your life will be tight"
That is incorrect. Jesus has borne all the curse for us on the cross.
However, there is a blessing that comes from giving as the scripture encourages us to give and it shall be given to us. And Paul encourages us to give willingly.

So the basis of our giving is not to avert any curse but rather to open ourselves up for the blessings that come with giving. If you don't give, there is no curse but you may not enjoy that extra blessing that comes from giving.
Have you noticed that people who have the habit of giving, always have more to give? That is a divine principle.
In fact, I encourage people to give as much as they can, even more than the 10%.
The fact is, if we understand how much God loves us with an everlasting love, our resources (money and all) would be at his disposal for his use.
Giving to the needy carries more weight in the eyes of God than tithing.
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by jacyhelen(f): 8:01am On Nov 05, 2017
iamjavadem:

Giving to the needy carries more weight in the eyes of God than tithing.

his daay G:O will never allow him to give to the needy!!!!!!
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by iamjavadem(m): 8:03am On Nov 05, 2017
hahn:
The irony is that Freeze actually believes that Jesus and God actually exist and he worships them

He is simply, like every other theist does, cherry picking the gospel

He is just as deluded as every other Christian out there smiley
I am an atheist but I believe God exists in a form we don’t know. There are over 100 religions in the world, Christianity and Islam are the most overrated ones.

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Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by femicyrus(m): 8:03am On Nov 05, 2017
in this matter, i look unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith as an example.

Mark 12:17 And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him.

Jesus went ahead to pay Tax with a coin from fish's mouth

I pay my Tax to Government on monthly basis

Jesus did not pay tithe to the temple

I don't pay either.

Jesus gave two laws in the new testament
1. love God with all your heart
2. love your neighbor as yourself

I believe this is what he meant by "give to God the things that are God's.

this I also do.
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by ivolt: 8:11am On Nov 05, 2017
MrMystrO:

Imagine a Murderer or a kidnapper,or a robber or rapist eventually turning to an atheist?? Doesn't sound too Nice right? What will be the inner force that will torment their conscience after committing Horrible acts?
Unfortunately, you don't understand reality nor the genesis of morality.
Most people don't murder and rape because it isn't necessary, it is against their self-interest
and they have been raised with the belief that those actions are wrong.
Believing in a god won't stop a robber from plying his trade.
Conscience is a product of upbringing and societal value.

In the Caucasus, bride kidnapping is normal but I doubt if many
Nigerian men will kidnap a girl and force her into marriage due to the
negative consequences of doing so(legal and societal).

There was a highly religious Indian tribe called the "thugees", from where
the word thug was derived. Guess what their occupation was?
Theft and murder, it is estimated that they killed at least a million people,
mostly travelers, dispossessing them of their wealth. It was the strong arm
of the british law, not god or religion(they are already religious) that dissuaded and
destroyed their criminal ways of life.


Conscience is not a rigid set of rules found in a book, it is acquired through
societal interactions.


Some people haven't developed stable minds up to this time, to be able to act Right and possess good moral standards without religion just yet.
I see this statement as coming from a supremacist and arrogant stance,
unless someone is mentally retarded and is a psychopath(there are very
few of them and religion can't improve their condition), they have stable minds
and have the ability to act right and possess good moral standards.

Religion doesn't make people act right, upbringing and teachings do.
If you are born into an ISIS family, you will believe that beheading
infidel is the right thing to do.

Some of the most anarchist country in the present world have almost
a 100% religiosity, think Somalia and Yemen. Their religion didn't give
them order because it can't. Strong government with good economies creates
societal order, not religion.


So most people still need Jesus, Buddha, Mohammed and the rest in their lives for now before they can talk about moving on to deeper truths.
Most people need the above to make sense of their situation, solicit prayers and
feel lucky that a god cares about them, not morality. Deeper "truths" is a meaningless
concept and have no bearing on the behavior of most humans.


So contrary to my previous beliefs that we as a people need to be free from Religious slavery, I now realize that Religion is absolutely necessary to Help maintain Order in the Society so for now, Daddy freeze should let Christians and other people practicing their various religions to be. This is my own take on this issue.

Of course you are free to air your opinion. Religion doesn't maintain order,
security forces, fear and self-interest does.

Religious leaders lie all the time about the effectiveness of religion on societal
morality and order when it is glaring to anyone who cares that such claims
are bogus.
There are some fringe percentage group of people who won't turn to crime because
their god say so, it is the same set of people that would also kill you because their
god say so. They aren't necessarily moral afterall.

I propose that proper education and good parenting is sufficient and more
effective means of raising a balanced, moral and upright society.

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Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by MrMystrO(m): 8:27am On Nov 05, 2017
clefstone:
How can u be a theist without being religious? Once you believe in God you will certainly find a way to reach him, that finding him is what religion is

I believe there is A cause, An ultimate cause of All Things to exist which we Cannot Explain but is very visible if you study the natural World and eventually the universe as a whole. Religion is NOT finding this cause but an Attempt to find this cause. Most of the religions we have today are attempts of Men who lived thousands of years ago to explain this cause with the Limited knowledge they Had and they tried to the best of their understanding like they always did, to explain things which were beyond them. But then The world Moves in an evolutionary circle. Everything, including the knowledge of Man evolves and so Things that were once considered "Permanent Truths" today might not be seen the same way 1000 years from now, eg. back then people thought the earth was flat, and that the sun revolves around the earth and everyone believed this to be True when in reality, they knew almost absolutely nothing about the way our solar system works. But they had questions and needed to answer them one way or another and so they "Tried". At the end of the day, You are free to search for "Your Truth" Depending on the level of Evolution of your Mind. So if people have found peace in Christianity or any other religion, i believe we should let them be to follow the path they choose, As everyone cannot be on the same stage of Soul Evolution.
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by dollyptosh(m): 8:35am On Nov 05, 2017
felixomor:
Stop discussing biblical principles with unbelievers.

It makes no sense.
They dont have the Holy Spirit
LÒOOL
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by aribisala0(m): 8:48am On Nov 05, 2017
JamesReacher:
What you stated makes sense but can I call it the truth?
Who am I to tell youu what is truth.That is your job to discover
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by MrMystrO(m): 8:48am On Nov 05, 2017
ivolt:

Unfortunately, you don't understand reality nor the genesis of morality.
Most people don't murder and rape because it isn't necessary, it is against their self-interest
and they have been raised with the belief that those actions are wrong.
Believing in a god won't stop a robber from plying his trade.
Conscience is a product of upbringing and societal value.

In the Caucasus, bride kidnapping is normal but I doubt if many
Nigerian men will kidnap a girl and force her into marriage due to the
negative consequences of doing so(legal and societal).

There was a highly religious Indian tribe called the "thugees", from where
the word thug was derived. Guess what their occupation was?
Theft and murder, it is estimated that they killed at least a million people,
mostly travelers, dispossessing them of their wealth. It was the strong arm
of the british law, not god or religion(they are already religious) that dissuaded and
destroyed their criminal ways of life.


Conscience is not a rigid set of rules found in a book, it is acquired through
societal interactions.



I see this statement as coming from a supremacist and arrogant stance,
unless someone is mentally retarded and is a psychopath(there are very
few of them and religion can't improve their condition), they have stable minds
and have the ability to act right and possess good moral standards.

Religion doesn't make people act right, upbringing and teachings do.
If you are born into an ISIS family, you will believe that beheading
infidel is the right thing to do.

Some of the most anarchist country in the present world have almost
a 100% religiosity, think Somalia and Yemen. Their religion didn't give
them order because it can't. Strong government with good economies creates
societal order, not religion.


Most people need the above to make sense of their situation, solicit prayers and
feel lucky that a god cares about them, not morality. Deeper "truths" is a meaningless
concept and have no bearing on the behavior of most humans.



Of course you are free to air your opinion. Religion doesn't maintain order,
security forces, fear and self-interest does.

Religious leaders lie all the time about the effectiveness of religion on societal
morality and order when it is glaring to anyone who cares that such claims
are bogus.
There are some fringe percentage group of people who won't turn to crime because
their god say so, it is the same set of people that would also kill you because their
god say so. They aren't necessarily moral afterall.

I propose that proper education and good parenting is sufficient and more
effective means of raising a balanced, moral and upright society.

Valid Points You Brought up there i must say. I have definitely learnt a thing or two from your write up and there is absolutely no need for me to engage you in an argument as i agree with almost everything you say, Only that to me, your Piece Would be True of people in Britain, US, Canada, New Zealand and many other Countries But NOT NIGERIANS Or Native AFRICANS(At least Not yet)If only...Lol. Thanks alot for the well written response sir.
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by Nobody: 8:53am On Nov 05, 2017
lalasticlala:
Daddy Freeze is the "General Overseer" of the "Free the Sheeple Movement"

Popular but controversial OAP, Daddy Freeze, always "attacks" pastors and tithers and everybody knows that. While some support him, some others do not support him. But the OAP is gaining more followers everyday as many are joining his "Free The Sheeple" movement, they see churches as business centers.

One thing with Daddy Freeze is that he appears strong & doesn't care about what others think about him. He always has a way of blasting & making fun of those that oppose him & his "Free The Sheeple" movement.

He is against the flamboyant lifestyles of many top Nigerian pastors and never fails to slam them whenever he sees an opportunity to do so. He has blasted top pastors & General Overseers such as Oyedepo, Adeboye, Ibiyeomie, Adefarasin among others.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/6208027_cymera20171104191036_jpegfc19907949f6a8ad852b8979200af878

Because of this, he has exchanged words with many celebrities who are in support of tithing and who are against his constant bashing of pastors. Some of the celebrities that directly or indirectly called him out include:

Timi Dakolo
Ubi Franklin ('What You Preach is Unhealthy')
Emmanuel Ikubese (Tithing: “Who Do You Think You Are? We Are Tired Of Your Rants"wink
Anita Joseph ("I tithe, come and beat me"wink
Waconzy (“Everything You Said About Tithe Is 10000% RUBBISH!"wink

Daddy Freeze reacted to Timi Dakolo and even mocked Ubi Franklin's Crashed marriage


Daddy Freeze recently accused Nigerian pastors of hacking his Instagram account which he later regained. But his Instagram account is currently off again.

In view of all these, what's your view about tithing? Do you support the payment of tithes or do you go with Daddy Freeze who is against tithing because he thinks those that pay tithes are gullible & are enriching the pastors?


Nigerian churches are run as a personal business. It's a fact everyone knows. Christians as hypocrites won't utter a word because they have long been brainwashed with ""touch not my annointed"

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Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by YelloweWest: 8:57am On Nov 05, 2017
Notmyproblem:


So your husband lost his job because you didn't pay tithe and he got a better one when you started paying tithe?

All my oyibo friends non pays tithe they all had better jobs the ones that lost theirs were cared for by the system and social services went to work until they got better offer than what they had before.

I am just wondering is the tithe blessings/punishment only applicable in the lives of Africans?
A man with wisdom is profitable to himself.
If u don't believe in God allow us who do to express our brief.
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by Nobody: 8:57am On Nov 05, 2017
YoungRichRuler:
If it's lalasticl.ala, it's frontpage

Well, I'm a Christian.
I give my tithes.
I'm not forced or coerced to give it.

Jesus died that I might have life in Abundance, to the full, till it overflows.

If folks under the old covenant pay 10%,
I'm under a better covenant and my God deserve more than 10%.


If I don't pay my tithes, there is NO curse that will come upon me because I've been redeemed from the curse of the law.



Nigerians are coerced to pay tithe, pastors threaten them that they are robbing God and that God will send his devourers to devour them n their source of income.



Meanwhile stop talking as if u have Gods gtbank account number that u use to pay ur tithes, U pay it to pastors n they flex hard with it....grin
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by Nobody: 9:01am On Nov 05, 2017
JohnGainsville:
Only few understand the principle behind Tithing, just like charity... As you give wholeheartedly it comes back to you multiplied.


Bros stop Fooooooling urself, I don't pay tithe, I don't go to church n I don't give any offering or Thanksgiving with my hard earned cash...


Yet God keeps blessing me hundred folds. grin


Atheists, Deists, Muslims, Rastafarians, Hindus, etc don't pay any tithe to ur God n yet God blesses them heavily. cool
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by Nobody: 9:03am On Nov 05, 2017
dayowunmi:
The claim that payment of Tithes enrich pastors is unnecessary. Tithe was meant for pastors welfare in the first place. Perhaps Freeze forgets that some of these churches have thousands of pastors working on full time and some even have missionaries, tithes is meant to be used for paying them salaries! He makes stupid comments as if the G.O's are the only pastors of their respective churches. Don't be surprised if some of these G.O's don't even touch tithe money! Look at the words of Paul "In the same way, the Lord has commanded that those who preach the gospel should receive their living from the gospel" 1 Corinthians 9:14 Tithe, offerings and First fruits are all scriptural and are means through which the church is meant to generate income to take care of salaries, building projects and general church maintenance and other programs. I seriously don't get what the ruse is all about



According to the Bible, Tithe is meant for orphans, widows, Levites, motherless, foreigners who have no land, it's for poor people generally.
Stop discussing issues u don't have any idea of.
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by Nobody: 9:04am On Nov 05, 2017
MrMystrO:
I am not a Christian neither do i belong to any Religion whatsoever, but i do believe Religion is still an absolute necessity For a lot of people, especially those from Third world countries like Nigeria! Yes, and here's why i think so: :
I am a deist, or theist at best, But contrary to my previous beliefs, i don't think our people,that is, ordinary Nigerians are Ready for the Raw undiluted truths about Reality and Life just yet. Religion was designed by a Group of Extremely smart men as a Tool for General mental slavery for the masses by playing on the mind of the individual, Providing them with easy answers to the most fundamental questions we ask as humans, Thereby keeping them all away from seeking further truths, and instead more concerned about other less complex things. The Truth is that this has really helped in keeping the masses in a tightly controlled state and also helped avoid the chaos that would occur if people discovered the real truths about Reality and Life itself. I do think the decline of Religion is inevitable and someday, our future generations to come will look back and laugh at how stupid we were for actually Believing some of the most unrealistic, extremely obvious fables man has ever known, and still claim to be advanced people. But That is still a long way to come and as for now, people especially in countries like Nigeria don't need to know the Raw truths just yet, Imagine a Murderer or a kidnapper,or a robber or rapist eventually turning to an atheist?? Doesn't sound too Nice right? What will be the inner force that will torment their conscience after committing Horrible acts? Some people haven't developed stable minds up to this time, to be able to act Right and possess good moral standards without religion just yet. So most people still need Jesus, Buddha, Mohammed and the rest in their lives for now before they can talk about moving on to deeper truths. So contrary to my previous beliefs that we as a people need to be free from Religious slavery, I now realize that Religion is absolutely necessary to Help maintain Order in the Society so for now, Daddy freeze should let Christians and other people practicing their various religions to be. This is my own take on this issue.

While I liked your comment because you share my view of the reasons why atheists like you and I, should leave religious people alone:. People who depend on an imaginary being in order to act right, I must emphasize to you that what daddy freeze is fighting isn't religion itself but tithing and enrichment of pastors. He calls them sheeple because most people that do that are extremely gullible.

It's a pity that many people, especially in 3rd world countries haven't evolved beyond superstition. And they also need that superstition to keep them from acting like wild animals.
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by Nobody: 9:06am On Nov 05, 2017
ifyan:
Hmm

To give tithe is not the problem but the way it's been used is were the problem is.

Is for our God but it is now for pastors.

Why is it that despite this country being too religious, we have not yet in the right path.

Hmm something need to be done.

What do u mean by "Is for God and now it is for pastors".... Are u trying to say that in the past tithes was paid into God's Zenith bank account? cool grin cool
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by Nobody: 9:08am On Nov 05, 2017
MirJay:
. Not paying your tithe don't have a curse attached. Tho what d guy doesn't know is that not paying tithes hinders certain blessings. We all pay tithes either we like it or not. Tis either u givr it to God or u spend it on d devil. Simple.


The devourers nko, isnt that a threat of curse
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by aribisala0(m): 9:11am On Nov 05, 2017
Themitope:



Where in the Bible is the tithe to be eaten by oneself. Go read the book of Malachi 3:8-11
Do you read the bible?

Do you read anything?
1. You are ignorant
2. You don't know that you are ignoant
3. You have no one to tell you
4. You think you are

Where does one start with folk like you

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Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by Nobody: 9:22am On Nov 05, 2017
eloquentclient:
I have been on Nairaland too long to know that majority opinion does not mean being correct. When a post about an employee and her employer comes up, the vote always goes to the employee because more people on nairaland are employed and vote from their own experience without putting themselves in the employers shoes.

The same goes for church matters, majority opinion does not make a thing right. I base all my judgements from scriptures and personal convictions. If anyone is to advice me on spiritual matters, definitely not Daddy Freeze because his lifestyle and the way he talks shows he is just an attention seeker. Let a real minister attack tithing and I will be interested in the discussion not a man who talks like women and fights dirty with no shame.
The Bible says:
Let a righteous man strike me--that is a kindness; let him rebuke me--that is oil on my head. My head will not refuse it, for my prayer will still be against the deeds of evildoers. Ps 141:5. Daddy Freeze is not qualified to correct me

How many souls has he won to the kingdom? what significant thing has he done for the advancement of the Kingdom of God on earth? Nothing

The easiest thing to do is criticize. Just study peoples weak points and comments. Its easier to destroy than to build.

Lol how do you expect pastors to attack tithing? Fid you read what you typed? What you typed is like saying you need a corrupt active politician to speak on anti corruption before you believe. Or a northern active politician to lead the sincere road to restructuring before you key in. It also sounds like what anti-biiafrans say about an active politician leading the way for pro-biiafrans before it can be recognized.... In all the above cases, it's just a gimmick to avoid the simple truth.

And no, the majority opinion doesn't go to the employees... A good example is a thread that made front page some days ago.... Won't waste my time posting the link for you.

You're asking how many souls he's won for the kingdom.. I give up. Time wasted.
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by aribisala0(m): 9:22am On Nov 05, 2017
The issue is the compulsion attached to it these days.Why is there no problem with this particular issue in the Catholic church? No one is bullied or threatened and all giving is VOLUNTARY.

The moment churches say it is mandatory then they are called upon to back it up with scripture.There is no scripture anywhere to justify this .No scripture to justify saying people are "IN ARREARS" or "OWING" and on that basis deny them pastoral care

The idea that tithe was meant for pastors welfare in the first place is just NOT true.
In the first place tithe was meant to be eaten and drunk in the presence of the Lord.It was NEVER meant to be monthly .

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Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by deolurexy1(m): 9:26am On Nov 05, 2017
JohnGainsville:
Only few understand the principle behind Tithing, just like charity... As you give wholeheartedly it comes back to you multiplied.
Tithing and charity are not the same.
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by ivolt: 9:34am On Nov 05, 2017
MrMystrO:


Only that to me, your Piece Would be True of people in Britain, US, Canada, New Zealand and many other Countries But NOT NIGERIANS Or Native AFRICANS(At least Not yet)If only...Lol.

Why do you think it can't work for Africans?
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by Nobody: 9:35am On Nov 05, 2017
Oluwaseyi00:
All I see in daddy freeze talks is just ignorance and lack of understanding


Its the Lord that commands tithing, it's not any pastor.... So therefore it must be obeyed

You're not more than the Muslim fanatics that carry out an imaginary Allah's command.
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by JamesReacher(m): 9:39am On Nov 05, 2017
aribisala0:
Who am I to tell youu what is truth.That is your job to discover
That's a recipe for disaster and greatness, the truth is yours to discover. BE BOLD.
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by MrMystrO(m): 9:39am On Nov 05, 2017
ikennaf1:


While I liked your comment because you share my view of the reasons why atheists like you and I, should leave religious people alone:. People who depend on an imaginary being in order to act right, I must emphasize to you that what daddy freeze is fighting isn't religion itself but tithing and enrichment of pastors. He calls them sheeple because most people that do that are extremely gullible.

It's a pity that many people, especially in 3rd world countries haven't evolved beyond superstition. And they also need that superstition to keep them from acting like wild animals.

Thank you for pointing that out for me, I always thought the "Free the sheeple" movement's end Goal was to Free Nigerians from Religion Entirely and i always Ran with that thought whenever i saw the phrase so Pardon Me Lol.
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by Notmyproblem: 9:48am On Nov 05, 2017
YelloweWest:

A man with wisdom is profitable to himself.
If u don't believe in God allow us who do to express our brief.

I never said I didn't believe in God, I am trying to find the relationship between misfortune and paying tithe. In your statement you made a bold claim to that effect.

In my simple mind the first thing I would think about is the economy not that Good is trying to avenge Himself.

Maybe I am wrong which was why I asked for explanation. If I recall correctly based on your other posts I would assume that you would at least give me a logical explanation rather than glossing it over.

Come to think of it, why did your husband get "punished" because of you not paying tithe? So let assume your husband pays so his couldn't get him out of it? Or he does not pay so he is riding on your blessings? Sorry your statement raised a lot of red flags.
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by Free4tope(m): 9:48am On Nov 05, 2017
You are absolutely correct. He has no moral and spiritual rights to do that.



eloquentclient:
I have been on Nairaland too long to know that majority opinion does not mean being correct. When a post about an employee and her employer comes up, the vote always goes to the employee because more people on nairaland are employed and vote from their own experience without putting themselves in the employers shoes.

The same goes for church matters, majority opinion does not make a thing right. I base all my judgements from scriptures and personal convictions. If anyone is to advice me on spiritual matters, definitely not Daddy Freeze because his lifestyle and the way he talks shows he is just an attention seeker. Let a real minister attack tithing and I will be interested in the discussion not a man who talks like women and fights dirty with no shame.
The Bible says:
Let a righteous man strike me--that is a kindness; let him rebuke me--that is oil on my head. My head will not refuse it, for my prayer will still be against the deeds of evildoers. Ps 141:5. Daddy Freeze is not qualified to correct me

How many souls has he won to the kingdom? what significant thing has he done for the advancement of the Kingdom of God on earth? Nothing

The easiest thing to do is criticize. Just study peoples weak points and comments. Its easier to destroy than to build.
Re: Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers by Nobody: 9:50am On Nov 05, 2017
This is an excerpt from Romans 14: 5; “One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be FULLY CONVINCED IN HIS OWN MIND.” He further stated in verse 22: “So whatever you believe about these things (i.e tithing, first fruit, consuming clean and unclean foods, Sabbath days et al.) keep between YOURSELF AND GOD. Blessed is the man who does not condemn himself by what he approves.”

Having said this, I feel it’s down to each individual, in line with their ‘personal conviction’ to do whatever they like with their finances or resources. I don’t pay tithes, rather I give my first salary of the year (first fruit) to whoever the Spirit of God tells me to give. It could be an individual, a charity organisation, a church I don’t belong to....as long as I’m doing it with a heart of gratitude, that’s triggered out of love for God. LOVE IS THE KEY COMPONENT OR I WOULD SAY MOTIVATING FACTOR; NOT FEAR OR COERCION, in regard to giving to God.

To the one that pays tithe; to the one who doesn’t pay tithe; to the one who believes Sunday is the Sabbath; to the one who believes Saturday is the Sabbath, the book of Romans 14 says in verse 12 to 13 : “So then, each of us will give an account of himself to God. Therefore, let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling-block or obstacle in your brother’s way.” May God help each individual to do what’s right in God’s eyes. Happy Sunday, my bruv’s and sister’s. Shalom!

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