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Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by Jaideyone(m): 11:44am On Dec 28, 2017
SouthEastFacts:

Yes, it was him. Unless you don't know your Nation's political history.

He was planning coup when he was arrested. His boys planned the coup to reinstate him, but Ironsi took over.

Since then, we lost every thing.

Why mention Jonathan? I thought Obj was President before him.
and it was also awolowo that told ironsi to destroy the progress we had under regional government and create the current unitary wahala we are having.

awolowo is also the reason Jonathan failed

awolowo is also the reason our state governors are currently doing nothing

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Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by totit: 11:46am On Dec 28, 2017
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Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by osazeeblue01: 11:46am On Dec 28, 2017
No meaning.
Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by SouthEastFacts: 11:50am On Dec 28, 2017
Jaideyone:
yeah and the coup plotters killed people from other regions and left south east leaders untouched.

that's a detribalised coup right there grin
Thank God you now believe Anioma is Igbo. Nzeogwu led the Coup followed by Adewale. There were many other Igbo, Yoruba, Hausa/Fulani, Tiv, Esan, Ijaw that participated in that coup. That coup had national coloration but western media pegged it on Ndi Igbo out of jealousy.

Awolowo was planning a coup when we was arrested. Those boys finished the coup to reinstate him but Ironsi refused.

Ask Adewale why Igbo leaders were spared?

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Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by SouthEastFacts: 11:54am On Dec 28, 2017
Jaideyone:
and it was also awolowo that told ironsi to destroy the progress we had under regional government and create the current unitary wahala we are having.

awolowo is also the reason Jonathan failed

awolowo is also the reason our state governors are currently doing nothing
He told Ironsi and all our politicians that when he planned the first coup. He destroyed this nation by sowing seed of coup.

Why are you always mentioning Jonathan? Was Obasanjo not President before him?

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Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by Stingman: 11:57am On Dec 28, 2017
BeautifulSE:


That guy is not even Yoruba. He's from the North. Anyway, at least he didn't pull out any nonsense figures from his asshole like you grin. Ah! Bro you sabi lie abeg. Infact, I troway yansh for you. cheesy

That's why you're the Assistant DG


Shut that your ewedu mouth

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Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by Jaideyone(m): 11:57am On Dec 28, 2017
SouthEastFacts:

Thank God you now believe Anioma is Igbo. Nzeogwu led the Coup followed by Adewale. There were many other Igbo, Yoruba, Hausa/Fulani, Tiv, Esan, Ijaw that participated in that coup. That coup had national coloration but western media pegged it on Ndi Igbo out of jealousy.

Awolowo was planning a coup when we was arrested. Those boys finished the coup to reinstate him but Ironsi refused.

Ask Adewale why Igbo leaders were spared?
here we go again. you are still not accepting responsibility.

now you are blaming the western media. you are still unable to tell me how awolowo that was in prison since 1963 plotted a 1966 coup from prison using nzeogwu his ibo slave grin

Awo wasn't even a military man. Awo was jailed because the north favoured akintola over him. he wasn't plotting any coup!!!

more than 70% of the people that participated in the coup are IBO. other regions lost their leaders except the south east. your people went on to mock the northers after their premier was killed in the coup.
we should start accepting responsibility for our mistakes as a people. so the south east doesn't have media? grin

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Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by Jaideyone(m): 12:00pm On Dec 28, 2017
SouthEastFacts:

He told Ironsi and all our politicians that when he planned the first coup. He destroyed this nation by sowing seed of coup.

Why are you always mentioning Jonathan? Was Obasanjo not President before him?
obasanjo passed!!!

obj met our foreign reserve at $4b and left if at over $50b. left ECA

OBJ negotiated all our debts away and created millions of jobs!!! Obj is far from perfect but I'll give him a 40/100. I can't even give Jonathan a 30/100.

Jonathan only did Benin ore and fuoye in the south west. what did Jonathan do in the east?

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Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by Dalek(m): 12:10pm On Dec 28, 2017
ehn ehn, you mean the igbos have been at the corridor of power more??
by this the real enemies of igbos are igbos themselves, marginalizing deresef. but would rather blame unborn children than accept dere collective failures.

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Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by SouthEastFacts: 12:11pm On Dec 28, 2017
Jaideyone:
here we go again. you are still not accepting responsibility.

now you are blaming the western media. you are still unable to tell me how awolowo that was in prison since 1963 plotted a 1966 coup from prison using nzeogwu his ibo slave grin

Awo wasn't even a military man. Awo was jailed because the north favoured akintola over him. he wasn't plotting any coup!!!

more than 70% of the people that participated in the coup are IBO. other regions lost their leaders except the south east. your people went on to mock the northers after their premier was killed in the coup.
we should start accepting responsibility for our mistakes as a people. so the south east doesn't have media? grin
Oga, Awolowo was plotting Coup with Ghanaian authorities to overthrow the Government of Azikiwe/Balewa when he was arrested. He was prison when 1965 coup was carried out. The purpose was to install him as Prime Minister which Ironsi refused. Nzeogwu led the coup and Adewale a Yoruba man was second in command. Ojukwu and Ironsi an Igbo men fought the coup.

If that coup was an Igbo coup why was Ojukwu and Ironsi the two highest ranking Igbo officers not informed.

Awo destroyed this country. I didn't said it the North did.
https://www.naija.ng/697044-must-read-tanko-yakassai-reveals-battle-awolowo-akintola-led-1966-coup.html

www.dailypost.ng/2017/06/26/awolowo-started-nigerias-political-problem-paul-unongo/

https://www.proshareng.com/news/Nigeria-Economy/Yorubas-Are-The-Problem-With-Nigeria-Proshare/27034

Don't forget what Balaraba Musa said," the Yoruba political leadership, as mentioned has shown itself over the years to be incapable of rising above narrow tribal interests".

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Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by SouthEastFacts: 12:17pm On Dec 28, 2017
Jaideyone:
obasanjo passed!!!

obj met our foreign reserve at $4b and left if at over $50b. left ECA

OBJ negotiated all our debts away and created millions of jobs!!! Obj is far from perfect but I'll give him a 40/100. I can't even give Jonathan a 30/100.

Jonathan only did Benin ore and fuoye in the south west. what did Jonathan do in the east?
Jonathan left us with the highest economy.

When your APC governors were busy going to court to share ECA, where were you?

How much was in the ECA before it was shared? And how many did Jonathan leave?

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Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by SouthEastFacts: 12:18pm On Dec 28, 2017
Dalek:
ehn ehn, you mean the igbos have been at the corridor of power more??
by this the real enemies of igbos are igbos themselves, marginalizing deresef. but would rather blame unborn children than accept dere collective failures.
The enemies of Yorubas are who?

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Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by Lot13(m): 12:22pm On Dec 28, 2017
Why then do you blame others for the under development and marginalization of your region.Intergrity and honesty are values that are lacking in every Iboman.

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Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by Jaideyone(m): 12:27pm On Dec 28, 2017
SouthEastFacts:

Oga, Awolowo was plotting Coup when he was arrested. He was prison when 1965 coup was carried out. The purpose was to install him as Prime Minister which Ironsi refused. Nzeogwu led the coup and Adewale a Yoruba man was second in command. Ojukwu and Ironsi an Igbo men fought the coup.

If that coup was an Igbo coup why was Ojukwu and Ironsi the two highest ranking Igbo officers not informed.

Awo destroyed this country. I didn't said it the North did.
https://www.naija.ng/697044-must-read-tanko-yakassai-reveals-battle-awolowo-akintola-led-1966-coup.html

www.dailypost.ng/2017/06/26/awolowo-started-nigerias-political-problem-paul-unongo/

https://www.proshareng.com/news/Nigeria-Economy/Yorubas-Are-The-Problem-With-Nigeria-Proshare/27034

Don't forget what Balaraba Musa said," the Yoruba political leadership, as mentioned has shown itself over the years to be incapable of rising above narrow tribal interests".
you see you are still pointing fingers grin

you don't even know there was no coup in 1965 but you want to argue.

the first coup was January 1966 and the second was July 1966.

so how did an awolowo that was in prison since 1963 become responsible for a coup by the military when he wasn't even a military man? it's foolish to just swallow people's opinion without question. if I start bringing out what the same northers (including balarabe musa) have said about ibos I hope you will accept them as the truth? grin

now more on why Awo was jailed. Awo was in the opposition with akintola initially with Awo having more influence in Action Group even though akintola was the premiere. Awo made a move to remove akintola as the premier. the party voted for the removal of akintola but violence broke out and state of emergency was declared in the southwest. akintola was reinstated without even after the votes already removed him as premier (even azikiwe protested this move which was obviously backed by the north). Akintola's alliance with the North is the reason Awo was jailed to silence him prior to 1964 election. Awo never planned any coup.
Akintola as the premier of the southwest pioneered rigging in Nigeria!!! FFK's father (Remi Fani Kayode) said it out loud that they don't need votes to win!!! violence broke out again when the rigged results were announced (note that Awo was in prison through out the election and the violence that followed even up till the 1966 coup and counter coup).

so tell me how was Awo planning a coup in 1963? how did he execute another one in 1966 from prison when he's not even a military man?

stop swallowing lies!!!

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Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by SouthEastFacts: 12:31pm On Dec 28, 2017
Lot13:
Why then do you blame others for the under development and marginalization of your region.Intergrity and honesty are values that are lacking in every Iboman.
Is your region more developed than the East?

If Awolowo didn't introduce coup into this country, shamelessly plotting with tiny Ghana to destroy our young democracy we wouldn't be in this mess. This is why even till now, Northerners are yet to forgive the West. Ask Sanusi, ask Yakassi, ask Unogo e.t.c

Only fools think otherwise.

The Greedy old man that plotted coup 2 times, against Balewa and Babangida is the cause of our problem. On both occasions, a Yoruba man (Akintola and Jakande) betrayed him.
Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by Jaideyone(m): 12:37pm On Dec 28, 2017
SouthEastFacts:

Jonathan left us with the highest economy.

When your APC governors were busy going to court to share ECA, where were you?

How much was in the ECA before it was shared? And how many did Jonathan leave?

lol APC governors also depleted the foreign reserve from almost 50b to 28b even when crude oil was selling for a record 110 dollars per barrel!!!! grin even a goat will grow the economy with so much forex at his disposal.
when the price of crude fell to $70 per barrel iweala started telling Nigerians to brace up for hardship

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/business/171145-brace-tougher-times-ahead-okonjo-iweala-tells-nigerians.html

the price of crude fell further to less than 40$ pee barrel under buhari and the recession couldn't have been avoided with so little coming in from crude oil and militants blowing up pipelines!!!


now with oil selling at between 90-110 dollars per barel between 2010-2014 pls tell me the infrastructure Jonathan left on ground? apart from the bogus largest economy in Africa when our reserves were dropping!!!!

note that when oil was selling at a very Hugh price Saudi Arabia grew their foreign reserve to over 500 billion dollars. see it here
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-05-28/saudi-net-foreign-assets-dip-below-500-billion-in-april

how come Jonathan was still spending our foreign reserve anyhow? how come he couldn't build roads and reserve was still falling?

I'm patiently waiting for your reply grin

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Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by ImperialYoruba: 12:39pm On Dec 28, 2017
SouthEastFacts:
I am still enjoying my Christmas, I don't have time for long article.

I stumbled upon the quoted this morning, so this short piece is an unedited response to that. When time permits, I shall run a full analysis.


The problem with some Yorubas is nothing but Shallowness. To them Nigeria started in 1999, fourth republic. But if you ask them where SW was before the fourth republic most of them will open their mouth staring at you.

Pre Republican era
First and only Governor General (Nnamdi Azikiwe)
First Speaker (Jaja Nwachukwu, Present day, Abia)
First President of the Senate (Nnamdi Azikiwe)

First Republic
First President (Nnamdi Azikiwe)
First President of the Senate (Nwafor Orizu)
First Acting President (Nwafor Orizu)
First Foreign Minister (Jaja Nwachukwu)
First GOC, NA (Aguiyi Ironsi)

Military Era
First Military Head of State (Aguiyi Ironsi)

Second Republic
First Vice President (Alex Ekwueme)
First Speaker (Ume Ezeoke)

Third Republic
We already know what happened here.

Abiola a wealthy Yoruba Muslim ran for President on the platform of SDP. He won a decisive victory to become the first and only Southerner to defeat a Northern overwhelming in the North.

Second republic Governors took office on January, 1993, while IBB postponed the Presidential election to June 12. Which he eventually won decisively.

According to New York Times (1993) "Many Yoruba have long resented the domination of Nigeria's political life by the mostly northern Hausa-Falani ethnic group, and were ecstatic when one of their own, Mr. Abiola, appeared to have won the recent balloting," but 11 days later, he annulled the election.

11 days again, on July 4, 1993, General Babangida took Chief Abiola and family into confidence. He told them point blank, 'they' (North) will kill you (MKO) rather than allow you to become the elected President,
Commander-in-Chief of Nigeria'.
https://m.thenigerianvoice.com/news/53716/1/the-secret-behind-the-annulment-of-june-12-amp-wha.html

In 1994, he declared himself President and was imprisoned for 4 years in solitary confinement.

On the day was due to be released, on the 7th July 1998, he died of natural cause after agreeing to renounce his mandate upon learning that the world has abandoned him, telling him they won't recognize a 5 year old election.

The government of Ernest Shonekan that took over from IBB was dismantled within 3 months by the same power that doesn't want Abiola as President. Failing to consolidate his power within 3 months, his government was dismantled with just 40 soldiers.

Announcing his Cabinet list, Shonekan became the First Civilian Head of State to alienate Ndi Igbo from government, giving Ndi Igbo 4 out of 31 Cabinet appointments.

Senate President (NC)
Fourth Republic (First 8 years)
First President (SW)
First Vice President (NE)
First Senate President (SE)
First Speaker (NW)

Note: In the 4th Republic, the SW was just compensated with the Presidency because of the 3rd republic debacle.

To achieve this, all parties were directed to field only SW, because in a liberalized election, Obasanjo the anointed can not win the election. So 4th Republic Presidency is NOT an achievement for the SW, because their own preferred candidate, Olu Falae was roundly defeated, and forced into political irrelevance. In essence, greater Nigeria imposed Obj on the SW.

They were allowed to that position not as a result of political clout or sophistication, but as result of benevolence of Nigerians. In 2003, Obj had to beg Atiku, his subordinate in a kneeling position to allow him complete his term.

www.dailypost.ng/2017/12/11/obasanjo-knelt-atiku-begging-second-term-idahosa/

Fourth Republic (Second administration)
President (NW)
Vice President (SS)
Senate President (MB)
Speaker (SW)
Deputy Speaker (SE)
Deputy SP (SE)

Note: SW was kicked out of the House after the first tenure. They were not allowed to complete their zoned 8 years. Tambuwal took from Bankole.

Fourth Republic (third Administration)
President (SS)
Vice President (NW)
Senate President (MB)
Speaker (NW)
Deputy Speaker (SE)
Deputy SP (SE)

Fourth Republic (fourth Administration)
President (NW)
VP (SW)
Senate President (MB)
Speaker (NE)
Deputy SP (SE)
Deputy Speaker (SW)

Note: VP is the only achievement of SW in the fourth Republic, a position they got by the benevolence and popularity of His Excellency, the President.

When they tested their political clout and sophistication at the national level outside the benevolence of Northern backed political clout, they were roundly defeated and political sophistication demystified during the tussle for the position of SP and Speaker.

The political sophistication of SE/SS got the SE the Deputy SP even though they don't truly deserve it. This means the North still prefer their age lond Political Cooperation with the East to their recent cooperation with the West, even though the East didn't help them achieve the Presidency.

Don't forget the 4th Republic is just 18 years. You don't expect all the 6 regions to produce President within that 18 years. 3 regions have done their part (SW (cool SS (4) NW (6, remaining 2 years), 3 are yet to do theirs, hence power is going to NE unfailingly through Atiku. When time comes, nobody will stop Igbo Presidency. SS will as well complete the other 4 years when time comes.

When it comes to politics at National level, SW are just crawling. They can't beat SE political records or ever catch up with them.

The SW got the Presidency and Vice Presidency out of benevolence of people. The same way they love free owambe in real life. The only position they truly fought for President in 3rd Republic and Speaker in fourth Republic they were both disgraced out. While they were not even allowed to test the 3rd Republic Presidency, they were not allowed to complete their 8 years for speakership. Even the Military they got was out of necessity and Obj was pressured to return power to Civilian Government where a North-East cooperation got them the Vice President for a 2 terms.

Olodo! grin

You are a political illiterate!

The Pre Republic you listed came about because it was a battle between Ibo and Hausa for National Office. Yoruba was not interested or competing to occupy National Office because the West was already a successful self-ruling region since 1957. We had recorded far more advancement in West ahead of the nation, so why compete for a platform that is less politically situated than the one we are in charge of?



In terms of Republics, there has only been one till date and that was the Republic of 1963. We have not had another so you and the journalists in the habit of naming multiple republics need to get your head in proper orientation. What we have had are not successive republics but successive civilian era or periods or governments. Take that correction.


Even in the Republic of 1963 West was still a self ruling government and with advancements that surpassed any other region. In terms of political strength and successes compare what each region had accomplished in terms of self government and development on ground.

MidWest was carved out of West in 1963 and did not stop West from its successes neither did it halt our growth and established goodwill in foreign circles.

By 1965 it was evident advancement and growth in West cannot be stopped by the center or any of the regions. Ibo had failed in its own Eastern Region and had no known programms for social upliftment. Many Ibo had realized to survive they need to relocate to West.

Yoruba competition for political power was internal, the struggle to acquire party loyalty and be in charhe of the most politically and socially advanced society in West Africa, the competition for headship of Nigeria was less fervent or desired.


If we had entered into a fierce competition in the center as we did in the region those positions you listed pre and first Republic would not have Ibo leading the land.



1966 coup was therefore a grand plan by the lagging Eastern region to slow down the West pace and equally kill heated competition by North to oust Ibo from headship.
Ironsi was therefore a product of a criminal violation of the Republican Constitution of 1963. Ribadu was next in power to enter office after Balewa. Ibo wanted all the offices to themselves, a monopoly of government! This why Nwafor became handed power to Ibo military, because there were no Ibo in the four succession ranks of power to assume the Prime Ministership. It was Ribadu, Shagari and another Northerner...cant remember name. The focus of Yoruba away from the center...and primarily in our own region produced a balance of struggle at the center between Hausa and Ibo. The coup changed everything.

It killed political independence in West and devastated our instituted programs for society.


When you hear Yoruba agitate for a return to 1963 constitution or previous...we know why it is, because we know what we can do away from the center, we have proven it over and over.

In fact we are proving it now, inspite of a centralized and highly diluted chaos in the center. We still remain the number 1 region in the country.

Thr number 2 region will go to North.
East did not know how to self rule...and till today you are still deficient in political knowledge or asset.


Look, make I just stop and leave you to your delusion and fake assessments of political leadership. You dont know what political power is....if you did you would not write rubbish. You vonfuse political office for power. Power resides with kingmakers, which Ibo has never been. grin

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Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by Jaideyone(m): 12:40pm On Dec 28, 2017
SouthEastFacts:

Is your region more developed than the East?

If Awolowo didn't introduce coup into this country, shamelessly plotting with tiny Ghana to destroy our young democracy we wouldn't be in this mess. This is why even till now, Northerners are yet to forgive the West. Ask Sanusi, ask Yakassi, ask Unogo e.t.c

Only fools think otherwise.

The Greedy old man that plotted coup 2 times, against Balewa and Babangida is the cause of our problem. On both occasions, a Yoruba man (Akintola and Jakande) betrayed him.
I'm patiently waiting for you to tell us how Awo plotted coup in 1963 and did so again in 1965. you keep making allegations with nothing to back it up grin

BTW the south east is so developed and your people are all running down to Ogun, Oyo, ondo, osun to look for greener pastures grin ( I left Lagos out for obvious reasons).

your region is more developed than the west so what's the motivation behind of the cries of neglect and marginalisation by ipob? grin

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Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by SouthEastFacts: 12:44pm On Dec 28, 2017
Jaideyone:
lol APC governors also depleted the foreign reserve from almost 50b to 28b even when crude oil was selling for a record 110 dollars per barrel!!!! grin even a goat will grow the economy with so much forex at his disposal.
when the price of crude fell to $70 per barrel iweala started telling Nigerians to brace up for hardship

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/business/171145-brace-tougher-times-ahead-okonjo-iweala-tells-nigerians.html

the price of crude fell further to less than 40$ pee barrel under buhari and the recession couldn't have been avoided with so little coming in from crude oil and militants blowing up pipelines!!!


now with oil selling at between 90-110 dollars per barel between 2010-2014 pls tell me the infrastructure Jonathan left on ground? apart from the bogus largest economy in Africa when our reserves were dropping!!!!

note that when oil was selling at a very Hugh price Saudi Arabia grew their foreign reserve to over 500 billion dollars. see it here
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-05-28/saudi-net-foreign-assets-dip-below-500-billion-in-april

how come Jonathan was still spending our foreign reserve anyhow? how come he couldn't build roads and reserve was still falling?

I'm patiently waiting for your reply grin
You are talking as if Jonathan took over from Obj. Jonathan didn't inherit any 50 billion USD in foreign reserve.

The Nation was fighting a conventional war. Dollar is used to prosecute war. Obj didn't.

Jonathan built more roads than Buhari. Buhari is merely completing them.

Jonathan built 6 new Universities. Buhari did none.

If not for the solid economy Jonathan left us with, Buhari recession would have plunged us to the pit.
Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by SouthEastFacts: 12:47pm On Dec 28, 2017
ImperialYoruba:


Olodo! grin

You are a political illiterate!

The Pre Republic you listed came about because it was a battle between Ibo and Hausa for National Office. Yoruba was not interested or competing to occupy National Office because the West was already a successful self-ruling region since 1957. We had recorded far more advancement in West ahead of the nation, so why compete for a platform that is less politically situated than the one we are in charge of?



In terms of Republics, there has only been one till date and that was the Republic of 1963. We have not had another so you and the journalists in the habit of naming multiple republics need to get your head in proper orientation. What we have had are not successive republics but successive civilian era or periods or governments. Take that correction.


Even in the Republic of 1963 West was still a self ruling government and with advancements that surpassed any other region. In terms of political strength and successes compare what each region had accomplished in terms of self government and development on ground.

MidWest was carved out of West in 1963 and did not stop West from its successes neither did it halt our growth and established goodwill in foreign circles.

By 1965 it was evident advancement and growth in West cannot be stopped by the center or any of the regions. Ibo had failed in its own Eastern Region and had no known programms for social upliftment. Many Ibo had realized to survive they need to relocate to West.

Yoruba competition for political power was internal, the struggle to acquire party loyalty and be in charhe of the most politically and socially advanced society in West Africa, the competition for headship of Nigeria was less fervent or desired.


If we had entered into a fierce competition in the center as we did in the region those positions you listed pre and first Republic would not have Ibo leading the land.



1966 coup was therefore a grand plan by the lagging Eastern region to slow down the West pace and equally kill heated competition by North to oust Ibo from headship.
Ironsi was therefore a product of a criminal violation of the Republican Constitution of 1963. Ribadu was next in power to enter office after Balewa. Ibo wanted all the offices to themselves, a monopoly of government! This why Nwafor became handed power to Ibo military, because there were no Ibo in the four succession ranks of power to assume the Prime Ministership. It was Ribadu, Shagari and another Northerner...cant remember name. The focus of Yoruba away from the center...and primarily in our own region produced a balance of struggle at the center between Hausa and Ibo. The coup changed everything.

It killed political independence in West and devastated our instituted programs for society.


When you hear Yoruba agitate for a return to 1963 constitution or previous...we know why it is, because we know what we can do away from the center, we have proven it over and over.

In fact we are proving it now, inspite of a centralized and highly diluted chaos in the center. We still remain the number 1 region in the country.

Thr number 2 region will go to North.
East did not know how to self rule...and till today you are still deficient in political knowledge or asset.


Look, make I just stop and leave you to your delusion and fake assessments of political leadership. You dont know what political power is....if you did you would not write rubbish. You vonfuse political office for power. Power resides with kingmakers, which Ibo has never been. grin
I will not respond to the above trash since you don't know what a Republic in the context of Nigerian politics means.

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Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by Jaideyone(m): 12:50pm On Dec 28, 2017
SouthEastFacts:

You are talking as if Jonathan took over from Obj. Jonathan didn't inherit any 50 billion USD in foreign reserve.

The Nation was fighting a conventional war. Dollar is used to prosecute war. Obj didn't.

Jonathan built more roads than Buhari. Buhari is merely completing them.

Jonathan built 6 new Universities. Buhari did none.

If not for the solid economy Jonathan left us with, Buhari recession would have plunged us to the pit.
buhahahahahaha see lie o

read that post again. OBJ left over $50b with crude price of less than $40 per barrel, Yaradua defended our econony with part of it during the global economic crisis and Jonathan inherited at leat $40b. how come our reserve was falling when that of other oil producing countries were rising between 2010-2014?

and please mention the road Jonathan constructed grin I'm waiting


cc southeast facts

I'm waiting for your reply on this

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Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by Alariiwo: 12:53pm On Dec 28, 2017
Yorubas were in opposition in the First republic when the Igbos were deeply in love with the Hausa/Fulani domination. Zik and co. were taking up crumbs the Northerners threw to them like dogs.

Yorubas on the other hand were busy fighting for equity and fairness, asking for restructuring but the Easterners weren't interested in all that. So far they got crumbs from North.

That is the reason why Yorubas don't take you saboteurs seriously. And why there will never be unity in the South.
We don't want anything to do with backstabbers who cry only when things are not going in their favour.

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Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by Jaideyone(m): 12:55pm On Dec 28, 2017
SouthEastFacts:

You are talking as if Jonathan took over from Obj. Jonathan didn't inherit any 50 billion USD in foreign reserve.

The Nation was fighting a conventional war. Dollar is used to prosecute war. Obj didn't.

Jonathan built more roads than Buhari. Buhari is merely completing them.

Jonathan built 6 new Universities. Buhari did none.

If not for the solid economy Jonathan left us with, Buhari recession would have plunged us to the pit.
uncle solid economy that okonjo iweala started telling is us to brace up for hardship when oil was selling at 70?

could the hardship be avoided when oil was selling for less than 40 under buhari with no foreign reserve to defend the economy? grin

see what okonjo iweala said when oil was selling for 70 dollars o grin

https://www.dailytrust.com.ng/weekly/index.php/business/18233-oil-price-slump-nigerians-brace-for-tougher-times-ahead

please read the link before you reply grin


strong economy without corresponding infrastructural development. is that how China, Singapore, Malaysia and Japan developed? grin

strong economy because we were spending so much money (GDP) while our savings as a country (foreign reserve) was falling grin

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Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by Jaideyone(m): 12:56pm On Dec 28, 2017
Alariiwo:
Yorubas were in opposition in the First republic when the Igbos were deeply in love with the Hausa/Fulani domination. Zik and co. were taking up crumbs the Northerners threw to them like dogs.

Yorubas on the other hand were busy fighting for equity and fairness, asking for restructuring but the Easterners weren't interested in all that. So far they got crumbs from North.

That is the reason why Yorubas don't take you saboteurs seriously. And why there will never be unity in the South.
We don't want anything to do with backstabbers who cry only when things are not going in their favour.
GBAM!!!!

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Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by Alariiwo: 1:02pm On Dec 28, 2017
Gotze1:
You dey mind that mumu

Most of them are still pained that Zik didn't emerge Premier in the West..

Their plans of enslaving the Yorubas failed. Now it's SS people they want to enslave.

I just don't understand why igbos keep eyeing South West. Do they plan to kill all the Yorubas and take over the lands or what?
When people still go to war. We will see how long they survive attempting that.

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Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by Alariiwo: 1:07pm On Dec 28, 2017
Jaideyone:
GBAM!!!!

Igbos started misbehaving when Tinubu became governor.. The foolish man was busy forming detribalized cos of his presidential ambition.

Yorubas have been doing politics in Lagos since the time of Jakande and no igbo dared to make noise.
Thank God for Ambode who is correcting all that nonsense now. Lagos is now fully an Odua state and no non-indigene can get elected into any post across SW.
That is the new law on ground now.

Any bastard that wants to become anything should go back to his village. Simple as a, b, c

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Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by SouthEastFacts: 1:07pm On Dec 28, 2017
Jaideyone:
I'm patiently waiting for you to tell us how Awo plotted coup in 1963 and did so again in 1965. you keep making allegations with nothing to back it up grin

BTW the south east is so developed and your people are all running down to Ogun, Oyo, ondo, osun to look for greener pastures grin ( I left Lagos out for obvious reasons).

your region is more developed than the west so what's the motivation behind of the cries of neglect and marginalisation by ipob? grin
If you believe Ogun, Osun, Ekiti, Ondo and Oyo are more developed than SE, then you must be ingesting too much made in Nigeria statistics. Pick any developmental index let deal with it once.

Yes, he was conspiring with tiny Ghana to overthrow the Government of Balewa when he was arrested. Few years after his arrest, a coup led by Nzeogwu and Adewale with the purpose of installing him as PM succeeded in truncating our democracy, but the coup was halted by Ironsi and Ojukwu. The 2 highest ranking Igbo officers. The surviving govt handed power over to Ironsi, who rewarded Ojukwu for helping him stop the calamity with Governor.

In the 1990s, many years after Ojukwu released him, he shameless planned another coup against IBB but was betrayed by Jakande. Fearing the imminent Military Tribunal be committed suicide by drinking poison.

Go and research your political history.
Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by SouthEastFacts: 1:09pm On Dec 28, 2017
Alariiwo:


Most of them are still pained that Zik didn't emerge Premier in the West..

Their plans of enslaving the Yorubas failed. Now it's SS people they want to enslave.

I just don't understand why igbos keep eyeing South West. Do they plan to kill all the Yorubas and take over the lands or what?
When people still go to war. We will see how long they survive attempting that.
You people can never make complete statement without mention SS.
Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by Jaideyone(m): 1:12pm On Dec 28, 2017
SouthEastFacts:

If you believe Ogun, Osun, Ekiti, Ondo and Oyo are more developed than SE, then you must be ingesting too much made in Nigeria statistics. Pick any developmental index let deal with it once.

Yes, he was conspiring with tiny Ghana to overthrow the Government of Balewa when he was arrested. Few years after his arrest, a coup led by Nzeogwu and Adewale with the purpose of installing him as PM succeeded in truncating our democracy, but the coup was halted by Ironsi and Ojukwu. The 2 highest ranking Igbo officers. The surviving govt handed power over to Ironsi, who rewarded Ojukwu for helping him stop the calamity with Governor.

In the 1990s, many years after Ojukwu released him, he shameless planned another coup against IBB but was betrayed by Jakande. Fearing the imminent Military Tribunal be committed suicide by drinking poison.

Go and research your political history.
lol ogun, Oyo, osun and ondo are not more developed yet your people are all over here in search of greener pastures? grin

OK. let's assume I accept your claim that Awo was plotting a coup in 1963. how did the coup he plotted in 1963 now translate to 1966 coup? especially when Ghana wasn't involved in 1966 coup? grin oya tell us the story

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Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by ImperialYoruba: 1:15pm On Dec 28, 2017
SouthEastFacts:

I will not respond to the above trash since you don't know what a Republic in the context of Nigerian politics means.

I didnt think you would reply since there is no material fact to displace what I submitted and which history and media records can back up. grin

We just dey look una dey smile.

Point to any part of West Africa or sub Saharan that has ever been politically successful and institutionally evolved in thr hands of its indigenes as Yorubaland has been in the hands and minds and spirit of Yoruba politicians.

There is NONE! We lead, others follow.

If we accomplished this much in a stunted and anti-progressive centrally managed republic, imagine where we would be if we are self ruling and independently self determining. Just imagine....

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Re: South East Vs South West: Politics At The National Level by Alariiwo: 1:15pm On Dec 28, 2017
Jaideyone:
GBAM!!!!

Igbos have always played second fiddle to the North since independence. All their leaders always take up vice posts to them without thinking of future.

When Yorubas were asking for restructuring, they told Yorubas to keep shut. that nothing like restructuring.

Now that tables have turned, they are now crying restructuring and we are also telling them to keep shut.
They will stay in political wilderness for a long time and will never smell power in Nigeria again.

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